Please don’t skirt around the points I’m addressing.
1) Cop can't "prove" anyone's alignment as nobody will know if you're lying. To suggest that you can just cop someone and it'll all workout for us is entirely misleading. The cop cannot prove anything. If I'm lynched, there's no way to know that you're lying, because there are no flips. You can be goon/traitor and say "Hey, I copped Atog, he's scum", but it doesn't mean that any of that is true.
2) Saying "both of you don't want to lynch him so he's probably scum" is also entirely fallacious, as neither of them know what my role is.
My point is you're trying to defend yourself and confirm that you're the cop (when you aren't) through misleading statements and fallacious play.
I breadcrumbed in case someone counterclaimed, showing my intentions of claiming early, and that i am 100% on board for massclaim, and that i wanted to bait out scum by asking if the real vanilla, (which was me) would claim.
It didn't work, but i would hope it shows my intentions were for scumhunting purposes. Woulda been really cool if the bait worked and i told you my breadcrumb though...
This game gets funny when you know who scum is and there is almost no way of convincing people you aren't lying sans quoting the role pm haha.
Atog never mentioned anything about me saying he kept his vote on me until he was reminded.
But i'd like to think my intentions have been the same the entire game minus my false scumread on hunt.
Shocks confidence is obvious in his posts, which is why he is town.
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If shockwave wasn't cop, he would have claimed a less risky role, such as vanilla. He wouldnt have had to prove it somehow.
This is why i think ghosting is scum.
Also, pretty sure i played with you in apaco mafia, ghost.. and your town game didnt have this many multiposts in it.
So you do realise that cop can't prove that they're the cop, right?
There's zero more work he'd have to do than if he claimed vanilla and was CC'ed.
In fact, claiming vanilla is actually harder, if you want to believe Rodemy's breadcrumb.
And if you've read any of my games, they all have ridiculous amounts of text posts since I returned.
If that's why you think I'm scum, and my post #111 doesn't convince you that you at least need to rethink your position, I think it just confirms you are scum, as it refutes your reason for thinking I'm scum.
@ghosting, i was going to be weary of any claim you made, seeing as your *random* claim list had shock claiming last EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. (minus the last one)
Like you didnt care. Or werent paying attention to what you were typing, which shows a lack of effort.
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@ghosting, i was going to be weary of any claim you made, seeing as your *random* claim list had shock claiming last EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. (minus the last one)
Like you didnt care. Or werent paying attention to what you were typing, which shows a lack of effort.
Are you suggesting I've had a lack of effort this game? I have one of the highest efforts among players in this game, and have been doing a ridiculous amount of thinking.
Additionally, I explained how that happened, and it was blatantly unintentional (there's a pattern I used, it just doesn't work for five players, which I didn't notice) and I immediately apologised. I was simply creating a basis to help solve the game, which is putting forth effort.
Also, he wasn't last EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. if he wasn't last in the last one.
Look, game is done, town won. Huzzah. Lets get shwarma.
No, if you don't think that rethinking your position, as in, looking further than the reason you provided, after that reason was just undeniably refuted, then I would be fairly certain you're scum (remember, I'm already scumreading you, and for multiple other reasons).
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If shockwave wasn't cop, he would have claimed a less risky role, such as vanilla. He wouldnt have had to prove it somehow.
This is why i think ghosting is scum.
Cop wasn't the riskiest role to claim. You breadcrumbed VT, so VT would be.
Cop doesn't require proving anything in any way, because cop can't be trusted in a game with no flips.
If that's the basis of your scumread (you say: "This is why i think ghosting is scum"), and it is no longer valid, you'd certainly think rethinking is necessary.
My point is that as town, if you aren't certain of something, you should always be open to change, especially if the reason you are scumreading someone is refuted. It's not wrong to admit we aren't always right, and maintaining this absoluteness despite breakdown after breakdown is what is leading me to further believe you are the likely second scum.
For example, if Atog started acting super scummy, and you super townie, I would think he is the second scum instead. However, that is far from the case.
There are points I'd like you to address that I'm well aware you are fully avoiding.
I didn't cc you, therefore there is no reason from silence to you.
Please respond to my points.
Why am I even bothering, you are both so clearly scum.
Hunt's decision is the only one that matters, and you aren't going to budge even when I directly refute your reason for scumreading me, so I don't feel like continuing either.
Atog never mentioned anything about me saying he kept his vote on me until he was reminded.
I was legitimately voting you for being scummy. I have this weird thing where the first person I vote for in RVS usually turns out to be scum and it seems to be going strong this game.
Throughout this game you’ve had very sparse posting up until now. A good chunk of it was what you now say was breadcrumbing, but was really you planning your fakeclaim in advance. Spending your content on that instead of solving the game shows your mindset of self-preservation.
You also never townhunted this game, even after I asked you TWICE who your townreads were you never said a word. This game has no informed minority, we’re hunting a sk and a survivor so hunting for scumtells isn’t as useful and yet that’s all you did. You didn’t care who was town, you just wanted to find someone else to pin blame on so you could live.
You’ve been pushing the case that I’m scum all game and yet every time I attempt to engage you you ignore me. You’ve detached yourself from your own read which is a sign it is not a genuine one. I think you realized I was town early on and pushed me because you’d be safe in not hitting your partner.
That’s why I voted for you toDay, and why I’ll vote you again toMorrow if the game doesn’t end. That and, the fact that you are confirmed scum by my role
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Rodemy, please respond to my reply to you.
Seems doubtful considering his lack of response to me. His only play right now seems to be posting a bunch of fluff and hoping he squeezes out through that. I don’t mind it though, he’s digging his own grave either way.
"Cop wasn't the riskiest role to claim. You breadcrumbed VT, so VT would be."
EXCEPT IT WASN'T KNOWN UNTIL AFTER THE CLAIM. HOW WOULD HE KNOW IT WAS RISKY.
Your logic on that part is poor.
Okay. Done. Waiting on Hunt.
Okay, so how is cop riskier?
Since you decided to only respond to one of the points, and didn't include that cops can't actually prove anything in this game (because you know that's true).
Do you agree that a traitor would be pro-cop?
If yes, do you agree that it's not a stretch to think that a scum read who is pro-cop might be traitor?
We only have two scum roles in the game, and I'm pretty sure the one who gets read as town by the cop is going to want the cop to be paid attention to.
This is solid thought process. I can actually see it coming from someone who was the cop. But wouldn't the scum that is the GOON be the one more likely want the cop paid attention to. Yes the Traitor wants the cop around, but the traitor can just listen for who claims cop and go from there, whereas the Goon would want the cop gone. Wanted to make note of this.
Okay. I'll start here... What's the code for the headslapping smiley? The cop is a trap and very likely the traitor? No.
This is an open setup and the cop is very much town. Nothing is keeping scum from counterclaiming cop to introduce WIFOM besides maybe personal play preference.
A traitor being pro-cop? You mean for mechanically (no) or for by action? The second one is ambiguous, as it would vary greatly based on who is the cop and who is showing a pro cop attitude... Who at the moment is no one to my knowledge. You and Atogaholic actually are talking that down. It's not without some merit, but evading the Day 1 lynch, the cop has a 40% chance of coming into Day 2 with a meaningful result, including scenarios where the cop is the NK.
Grandmother has a better chance of being the win come Day 2, but one could argue that it is a trap as well. Only if Grandmother survives Night 1 does she have a 66% chance of winning the game. But she has to avoid the lynch and a NK as well.
I am more worried about the NK taking her, one reason why I am against claims other than pre-lynch ones.
...Got sidetracked there.
A scum read that is pro-cop? Based on WIFOM, my gut would lean yes. But this is a player to player thing. I've gotten night killed once based on one mafia team player feeling an action of mine was townie, while a townie was still looking at me like scum for it... Yes it was in the game I mentioned above.
And do I think a scum is amongst the lurkers? Yes, possibly. Like I've said before I've fear mongered in games as town, so I have to watch the context to determine purpose.
Though I am glad your posting. Not going to stop looking at you though.
This is where I think Shock shows us he is actually the cop. He is believing wholeheartedly that his role is important and that it needs to stick around to help solve the game. That comes from a TOWNIE survival mindset. Not a mafia one where he just wants to save his own skin. He was to survive AND be useful!
Still have others to claim. Seems we've fallen into order 5 of Ghosting's random claim orders.
Not sure what you meant by "not my first guess" but I think you meant that you didn't think I was the Granny... again which means to me that you were wondering who you were gonna cop.
I'm staying on atog for the sheer fact that i know he is scum now.
Shock, vote atog and we will lynch ghosting tomorrow
Unfortunatley for ghosting, the scumkill tonight will confirm who is telling the truth (if we lynch atog tonight.. which we really should)
Also, atog has been townclearing ghosting all game. The two go hand in hand.
If you want to be stubborn, fine, but i think at this point you should see how i have been pushing the massclaim, willing to claim asap, and how atog was scummy from first post.
From there we lynch ghosting and win!
This is where I think Rodemy outed himself as the other scum. I know that he is voting Ghosting, but it could just be because he is reading the situation differently. The fact that he tries to get the another player to vote someone without the only CONFIRMED town person in the game is super scummy. He also creates the false dichotomy between Ghosting and Atog. They don't HAVE to go hand in hand, but Rodemy presents it that way.
The only claim Rodemy had left was VT unless he decided to cc Shock or Hunt, so it's not as though Atog is necessarily confirmed scum at this point -- to assume so is flawed; same with saying because he is town reading me, I need to be lynched as well (nobody knows who anybody is, so Atog could've chosen anyone).
More interestingly, I'm actually the cop, so I suggest we lynch Shock and then Rodemy after, barring any interactions I need to analyze.
I really don't want to lynch the cops first come to think about it. I feel pretty strongly about Rodemy but don't want to stretch the game longer. I am getting a strong gut feeling that Atog would have cc'd me if he was scum. But that's just WIFOM and doesn't truly matter now.
Well tomorrow if Rodemy dies, obviously Atog is lying? But scum can kill anyone to create WIFOM so absolutes are difficult to proceed with.
The scum are 100% killing me. I am as close to confirmed town as it comes at this point. THe reason scum would not CC me would simply be because they are gonna kill me. They DO NOT want me around tomorrow. Shrinks PoE
I also think Shock knows I'm the cop and that's why he said that he knows I have to CC someone and feels comfortable voting me -- as if he knew I would CC him as cop.
I did have this thought at first when I read that sentence as well. However, I think he fully expected to be CC'd after going first in the claim order.
So I'm going with what seems the best play if I can get us to agree on it.
If the following is true: true!cop claim, true!grandmother claim, one of Atog or Rodemy making a true!Vanilla claim, the following remain in you three (Atog, Ghosting, Rodemy) traitor, and Goon.
We lynch Ghosting (as both of you don't wish to lynch him making him possible scum #2) all remaining options are bad for scum:
Shoot vanilla, outing himself a liar, leaving cop and grandma to clean up.
Shoot cop, leaving town aligned player to vote anyone but grandma for win.
Shoot grandma, I cop one vanilla claim, proving one or the other the liar.
I'm sticking with this as long as I think a lynch here is possible.
See this reads incredibly sincere to me, like he believes that the cop role can actually help win. You don't get that thinking if you AREN'T the cop. I just don't believe you fake that. His scenarios are not all inclusive though, at least I don't think they are.
Additionally, Atog and Hunt have both had town play this game, whereas we were scumreading both you and Shock before roles were even revealed. That contribution to your current fallacious play is certainly telling (on top of the fact I am 100% confident Shock is lying).
This feels like buddying up to the guy with the choice. I truly hope I don't get this wrong, but if I do I am pointing back to this as the reason.
Ok that's definitely a lynch, so I will reveal myself.
I am the traitor. Sorry for deceiving you friends, blame Bur for making me evil 8 )
I was reading Ghosting as the goon, and if I was right that's the end for me. Otherwise if Shockwave was my buddy, then we'll outnumber the town and win toMorrow. Either way it's the end of the game.
I actually thought we had that one though, so great job to Hunt for being able to read through my rebuttals and recognise I was scum. I thought the replies to Rodemy's defense could at least convince him I was cop, or make Hunt see lots of logic and believe me. Awesome job for sure.
@Ghosting: Thought you did well, up until the tidbit about my reacting to the cop scenario. And once the claim chain got up to the fourth I was feeling real strong about things.
@Huntz: Thought you weren't town early, but you were able to recover with your claim. And I'll be honest, the wink reply got me at least questioning if you were town.
@Rodemy: Still see your playstyle, and enjoyed trying to figure you out. Have to admit you were the hardest townie for me to sort, only once the claims started drawing lines in the sand did I start seeing you as almost for sure town.
@Atog: I felt you trying to needle me since the beginning. And in some ways it worked. I was the cop in the open for a while. But I was betting on you being the goon before your reveal.
@ghosting: i figured you were goin with how hard you were fighting not to get lynched, i figured shock was town only because his first claim was cop. The vanilla def would have been an easier false claim which is why i wanted to secure my own role beforeni suggested the vanilla come out. I know cop isn't really reliable in a no reveal, but I figure since it is still a PR, it would take a little risk that a careful scum wouldn't be willing to take in such a small game.
Also, i distinctly remember less small posting from you from apaco and more long posting with all your thoughts on one page.
I guess i couldnt get passed the fact i sincerely thought shock was telling the truth, so i was quickly trying to learn your scum game in case we had another one
@atog good job survivng your first game with me haha. I am all over the place and i really wanted to stick with my gut this game. Few things that, to me, gave you up as scum to me:
You voted first thing in a 3 to lynch game. I felt shockwave nailed you right off the bat with that, and props to him for that.
@shockwave, felt good about you being town this game, good hunting and good start to the massclaim. If you were scum, what would you have claimed to be and why?
@hunt. Your town game is strong now that i look back at it.
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Phew. I was debating going back and pushing Rodemy... thankfully I gave that idea up!
Thanks everyone and good game. I have had much better performances in the two micros I have now played. Might need to stick to them for a bit. Help the ol' confidence a bit.
I don't think I would have been able to recover and figure Atog out. I only had one moment where I was doubting Atog's townieness... Good play by all really!
My choice of what to claim (especially if the goon) would be to claim grandmother. Go into the game and curry town favor, maybe use my teammate the traitor as a foil.
But I'd have to get through the real grandmother first. And that would be the challenge.
Second choice as goon cop: for the promise of an always true town results, or perhaps a well placed bluff on my teammate to signal the end to come.
1) Cop can't "prove" anyone's alignment as nobody will know if you're lying. To suggest that you can just cop someone and it'll all workout for us is entirely misleading. The cop cannot prove anything. If I'm lynched, there's no way to know that you're lying, because there are no flips. You can be goon/traitor and say "Hey, I copped Atog, he's scum", but it doesn't mean that any of that is true.
2) Saying "both of you don't want to lynch him so he's probably scum" is also entirely fallacious, as neither of them know what my role is.
My point is you're trying to defend yourself and confirm that you're the cop (when you aren't) through misleading statements and fallacious play.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
It didn't work, but i would hope it shows my intentions were for scumhunting purposes. Woulda been really cool if the bait worked and i told you my breadcrumb though...
This game gets funny when you know who scum is and there is almost no way of convincing people you aren't lying sans quoting the role pm haha.
Atog never mentioned anything about me saying he kept his vote on me until he was reminded.
But i'd like to think my intentions have been the same the entire game minus my false scumread on hunt.
Shocks confidence is obvious in his posts, which is why he is town.
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Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
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This is why i think ghosting is scum.
Also, pretty sure i played with you in apaco mafia, ghost.. and your town game didnt have this many multiposts in it.
If by all I'm saying, you mean me breaking down your defense (a defense that I'm not using), yes. I'm not using that defense though, whereas you are.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
"all remaining options are bad for scum:"
"Shoot grandma, I cop one vanilla claim, proving one or the other the liar."
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
So you do realise that cop can't prove that they're the cop, right?
There's zero more work he'd have to do than if he claimed vanilla and was CC'ed.
In fact, claiming vanilla is actually harder, if you want to believe Rodemy's breadcrumb.
And if you've read any of my games, they all have ridiculous amounts of text posts since I returned.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Like you didnt care. Or werent paying attention to what you were typing, which shows a lack of effort.
Look, game is done, town won. Huzzah. Lets get shwarma.
Are you suggesting I've had a lack of effort this game? I have one of the highest efforts among players in this game, and have been doing a ridiculous amount of thinking.
Additionally, I explained how that happened, and it was blatantly unintentional (there's a pattern I used, it just doesn't work for five players, which I didn't notice) and I immediately apologised. I was simply creating a basis to help solve the game, which is putting forth effort.
Also, he wasn't last EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. if he wasn't last in the last one.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
No, if you don't think that rethinking your position, as in, looking further than the reason you provided, after that reason was just undeniably refuted, then I would be fairly certain you're scum (remember, I'm already scumreading you, and for multiple other reasons).
You said:
Cop wasn't the riskiest role to claim. You breadcrumbed VT, so VT would be.
Cop doesn't require proving anything in any way, because cop can't be trusted in a game with no flips.
If that's the basis of your scumread (you say: "This is why i think ghosting is scum"), and it is no longer valid, you'd certainly think rethinking is necessary.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
We can talk ourselves in circles until the Capitol Wasteland becomes a reality.
I've done my part for town and I am damn proud of it.
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For example, if Atog started acting super scummy, and you super townie, I would think he is the second scum instead. However, that is far from the case.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Hunt?
There are points I'd like you to address that I'm well aware you are fully avoiding.
I didn't cc you, therefore there is no reason from silence to you.
Please respond to my points.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Hunt's decision is the only one that matters, and you aren't going to budge even when I directly refute your reason for scumreading me, so I don't feel like continuing either.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Throughout this game you’ve had very sparse posting up until now. A good chunk of it was what you now say was breadcrumbing, but was really you planning your fakeclaim in advance. Spending your content on that instead of solving the game shows your mindset of self-preservation.
You also never townhunted this game, even after I asked you TWICE who your townreads were you never said a word. This game has no informed minority, we’re hunting a sk and a survivor so hunting for scumtells isn’t as useful and yet that’s all you did. You didn’t care who was town, you just wanted to find someone else to pin blame on so you could live.
You’ve been pushing the case that I’m scum all game and yet every time I attempt to engage you you ignore me. You’ve detached yourself from your own read which is a sign it is not a genuine one. I think you realized I was town early on and pushed me because you’d be safe in not hitting your partner.
That’s why I voted for you toDay, and why I’ll vote you again toMorrow if the game doesn’t end. That and, the fact that you are confirmed scum by my role
Seems doubtful considering his lack of response to me. His only play right now seems to be posting a bunch of fluff and hoping he squeezes out through that. I don’t mind it though, he’s digging his own grave either way.
EXCEPT IT WASN'T KNOWN UNTIL AFTER THE CLAIM. HOW WOULD HE KNOW IT WAS RISKY.
Your logic on that part is poor.
Okay. Done. Waiting on Hunt.
Okay, so how is cop riskier?
Since you decided to only respond to one of the points, and didn't include that cops can't actually prove anything in this game (because you know that's true).
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
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This is solid thought process. I can actually see it coming from someone who was the cop. But wouldn't the scum that is the GOON be the one more likely want the cop paid attention to. Yes the Traitor wants the cop around, but the traitor can just listen for who claims cop and go from there, whereas the Goon would want the cop gone. Wanted to make note of this.
This is where I think Shock shows us he is actually the cop. He is believing wholeheartedly that his role is important and that it needs to stick around to help solve the game. That comes from a TOWNIE survival mindset. Not a mafia one where he just wants to save his own skin. He was to survive AND be useful!
Not sure what you meant by "not my first guess" but I think you meant that you didn't think I was the Granny... again which means to me that you were wondering who you were gonna cop.
This is where I think Rodemy outed himself as the other scum. I know that he is voting Ghosting, but it could just be because he is reading the situation differently. The fact that he tries to get the another player to vote someone without the only CONFIRMED town person in the game is super scummy. He also creates the false dichotomy between Ghosting and Atog. They don't HAVE to go hand in hand, but Rodemy presents it that way.
I really don't want to lynch the cops first come to think about it. I feel pretty strongly about Rodemy but don't want to stretch the game longer. I am getting a strong gut feeling that Atog would have cc'd me if he was scum. But that's just WIFOM and doesn't truly matter now.
The scum are 100% killing me. I am as close to confirmed town as it comes at this point. THe reason scum would not CC me would simply be because they are gonna kill me. They DO NOT want me around tomorrow. Shrinks PoE
I did have this thought at first when I read that sentence as well. However, I think he fully expected to be CC'd after going first in the claim order.
See this reads incredibly sincere to me, like he believes that the cop role can actually help win. You don't get that thinking if you AREN'T the cop. I just don't believe you fake that. His scenarios are not all inclusive though, at least I don't think they are.
This feels like buddying up to the guy with the choice. I truly hope I don't get this wrong, but if I do I am pointing back to this as the reason.
Like multiposting is a scumtell? OR matters at all in this game?
Anyway,
Unvote
Vote Ghosting
Lynch Rodemy tomorrow please.
I think the remaining townies (myself included) should be willing to take the lynch in place of Huntz (in case he lives) to secure the win tomorrow.
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I am the traitor. Sorry for deceiving you friends, blame Bur for making me evil 8 )
I was reading Ghosting as the goon, and if I was right that's the end for me. Otherwise if Shockwave was my buddy, then we'll outnumber the town and win toMorrow. Either way it's the end of the game.
GG everyone, it was fun : )
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Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
@Huntz: Thought you weren't town early, but you were able to recover with your claim. And I'll be honest, the wink reply got me at least questioning if you were town.
@Rodemy: Still see your playstyle, and enjoyed trying to figure you out. Have to admit you were the hardest townie for me to sort, only once the claims started drawing lines in the sand did I start seeing you as almost for sure town.
@Atog: I felt you trying to needle me since the beginning. And in some ways it worked. I was the cop in the open for a while. But I was betting on you being the goon before your reveal.
To all, fun game.
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@ghosting: i figured you were goin with how hard you were fighting not to get lynched, i figured shock was town only because his first claim was cop. The vanilla def would have been an easier false claim which is why i wanted to secure my own role beforeni suggested the vanilla come out. I know cop isn't really reliable in a no reveal, but I figure since it is still a PR, it would take a little risk that a careful scum wouldn't be willing to take in such a small game.
Also, i distinctly remember less small posting from you from apaco and more long posting with all your thoughts on one page.
I guess i couldnt get passed the fact i sincerely thought shock was telling the truth, so i was quickly trying to learn your scum game in case we had another one
@atog good job survivng your first game with me haha. I am all over the place and i really wanted to stick with my gut this game. Few things that, to me, gave you up as scum to me:
You voted first thing in a 3 to lynch game. I felt shockwave nailed you right off the bat with that, and props to him for that.
@shockwave, felt good about you being town this game, good hunting and good start to the massclaim. If you were scum, what would you have claimed to be and why?
@hunt. Your town game is strong now that i look back at it.
Phew. I was debating going back and pushing Rodemy... thankfully I gave that idea up!
Thanks everyone and good game. I have had much better performances in the two micros I have now played. Might need to stick to them for a bit. Help the ol' confidence a bit.
I don't think I would have been able to recover and figure Atog out. I only had one moment where I was doubting Atog's townieness... Good play by all really!
But I'd have to get through the real grandmother first. And that would be the challenge.
Second choice as goon cop: for the promise of an always true town results, or perhaps a well placed bluff on my teammate to signal the end to come.
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
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Ghostling (3) - Shockwave07, Rodemy, Huntzilla
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Ghostling has been lynched! Ghostling was Mafia Goon. Atogaholic commited suicide. The game has ended in Town victory
Thank you for playing this game!