SETUP:
Mafia busdriver
Mafia roleblocker
3X Town one-shot vigilantes
Town (1X bulletproof vest)
Town doctor
RULES:
1. vote in bold. unvotes not necessary
2. deadlines will be instituted if needed
3. scum have daychat. kill is unassigned.
4. EVERYONE can self target.
5. don't make me write real rules. be cool yall
Living players:
AtheistGod
D_V
Gentleman Johnny
grapefruit21
Killjoy
Ophidia
shadowlancerX
Game will begin as soon as 4 players have confirmed in thread
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
FWIW I think it's 100% worth lynching because the busdriver can eff up best laid plans no matter what we do and we do kind of need to lynch them at some point.
(I believe that if we proceed without a lynch Today it is most likely to benefit enemies of the Town instead of the Town itself. Given this atypically chaotic setup, allowing fate to decide our shot results may be fun, but it's not strategic in the least. I also believe a Vote Gentleman Johnny is in order, as given the language I've seen him use, I do not believe him a gentleman.)
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
(I believe that if we proceed without a lynch Today it is most likely to benefit enemies of the Town instead of the Town itself. Given this atypically chaotic setup, allowing fate to decide our shot results may be fun, but it's not strategic in the least. I also believe a Vote Gentleman Johnny is in order, as given the language I've seen him use, I do not believe him a gentleman.)
(If we're to not lynch a person this day, we should at least wait until people have interacted enough in the game thread to determine proper shooting targets. There is little point in no-lynching on the first calender day of the game. Also Unvote since this Random Voting Stage appears to be ended.)
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I concur with Dino KJ. D_V, Shadow, and GJ you need to talk through your support for no lynching. P.S. I will personally vig whoever hammers no lynch before they do.
In no way was my vote serious. It was however intended to draw out a reaction. Which it did.
But if it's not a serious vote and you don't believe in No Lynching calling you out on it would be the correct response. This feels like a town post, just one based in faulty logic.
FWIW I think it's 100% worth lynching because the busdriver can eff up best laid plans no matter what we do and we do kind of need to lynch them at some point.
I concur with Dino KJ. D_V, Shadow, and GJ you need to talk through your support for no lynching. P.S. I will personally vig whoever hammers no lynch before they do.
I totally came out not inquisitive.
As for it being a bad RVS option I believe that No lynching is bad for town today, you voted for it and are now trying to avoid explaining why you voted for it. You also seem to think it's a bad option today since you said:
FWIW I think it's 100% worth lynching because the busdriver can eff up best laid plans no matter what we do and we do kind of need to lynch them at some point.
I concur with Dino KJ. D_V, Shadow, and GJ you need to talk through your support for no lynching. P.S. I will personally vig whoever hammers no lynch before they do.
I totally came out not inquisitive.
As for it being a bad RVS option I believe that No lynching is bad for town today, you voted for it and are now trying to avoid explaining why you voted for it. You also seem to think it's a bad option today since you said:
In no way was my vote serious. It was however intended to draw out a reaction. Which it did.
Your reaction to my reaction makes no sense.
Vote: Shadow
You've read Barebones, you sound exactly like I did when Hunt caught me off his no lynch vote. Also, you quoted the answer to your own question above. Why did I vote no lynch? Cause I wanted to see if I could get scum to tip their hand.
@Shadow Right but the stances are backwards, in barebones Hunt caught you speculating about whether no lynch was good for town which it was objectively wasn't. Here I pushed you for taking the anti-town stance not the other way around.
You were fishing for reactions to an anti town play and found a push, what else did you expect to find? Unless you're just caught scum.
Plus you ignored the part where I was fishing for people's opinions before you voted no lynch.
@Shadow Right but the stances are backwards, in barebones Hunt caught you speculating about whether no lynch was good for town which it was objectively wasn't. Here I pushed you for taking the anti-town stance not the other way around.
You were fishing for reactions to an anti town play and found a push, what else did you expect to find? Unless you're just caught scum.
Plus you ignored the part where I was fishing for people's opinions before you voted no lynch.
In Barebones, Hunt voted no lynch, I made a post trying to put him on the defensive, because it was objectively bad, and he caught me for it. It is also objectively bad here, that was the whole point of voting for it, to see who might go for an easy target to cast shade on. And you did. If you notice, KJ made a post also saying that no lynch was bad, but with an organic thought process, not an angle from which to create an attack.
@Shadow Hmmm I must be remembering wrong. I had remembered you back tracking and talking about weighing the merits of a no lynch and that being when the pressure got intense.
Either way what makes you think my posts before hand weren't genuine? My second post of the game is saying we need to lynch because we can't win by vigging as long as the busdriver is alive and can self target.
@Shadow Right but the stances are backwards, in barebones Hunt caught you speculating about whether no lynch was good for town which it was objectively wasn't. Here I pushed you for taking the anti-town stance not the other way around.
@AG Shadow says he caught me in the same way Huntz caught him. I said it was backwards because my suggestion was all pro lynch while in Bare Bones (I thought, double checking now) shadow was caught speculating about the pro's of no lynching.
@Shadow Hmmm I must be remembering wrong. I had remembered you back tracking and talking about weighing the merits of a no lynch and that being when the pressure got intense.
Either way what makes you think my posts before hand weren't genuine? My second post of the game is saying we need to lynch because we can't win by vigging as long as the busdriver is alive and can self target.
It's not a lack of your early posts being genuine, it's the mindset dissonance of pushing an RVS vote as if it was a real vote. Yes no lynch is bad, that's the point. Your "gotcha" at me and DV isn't reflective of the mindset you'd have if you were town.
Okay I was misremembering Bare Bones partially. Huntz main point was the reaction to the No lynch Vote, but he leaned heavily on Shadow floating the request for math as supporting evidence.
Meh... Still think I did show genuine interest in the reasons for voting and your turn around onto me felt forced, but I can see you trying to implement it after Hunt caught you with it.
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SETUP:
Mafia busdriver
Mafia roleblocker
3X Town one-shot vigilantes
Town (1X bulletproof vest)
Town doctor
RULES:
1. vote in bold. unvotes not necessary
2. deadlines will be instituted if needed
3. scum have daychat. kill is unassigned.
4. EVERYONE can self target.
5. don't make me write real rules. be cool yall
Living players:
AtheistGod
D_V
Gentleman Johnny
grapefruit21
Killjoy
Ophidia
shadowlancerX
Game will begin as soon as 4 players have confirmed in thread
I call shotgun.
It is now Day 1. You may post.
With 7 alive, its 4 to lynch
Opinions on no lynch vs lynch today?
Doc Doc yourself.
Lez go
I'm shooting GJ tonight
(I believe that if we proceed without a lynch Today it is most likely to benefit enemies of the Town instead of the Town itself. Given this atypically chaotic setup, allowing fate to decide our shot results may be fun, but it's not strategic in the least. I also believe a Vote Gentleman Johnny is in order, as given the language I've seen him use, I do not believe him a gentleman.)
Unvote; Vote Gentleman Johnny
No lynch doesn't seem worth it to me.
(Have you thought this through, Vampire That Belong's to Death? I do not think that you have done that.)
No Brakes
Not my fault some of you force Mr hand.
Vote No lynch
The GJ way path to no lynching:
At least wait until we lynch the bus driver.
no lynch (3) - DV, gentleman johnny, shadow
DV (2) - grapefruit, ophidia
gentleman johnny (2) - killjoy, atheistgod
not voting (0)
(If we're to not lynch a person this day, we should at least wait until people have interacted enough in the game thread to determine proper shooting targets. There is little point in no-lynching on the first calender day of the game. Also Unvote since this Random Voting Stage appears to be ended.)
UNVOTE
Did anyone break the game yet?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
The GJ way path to no lynching:
In no way was my vote serious. It was however intended to draw out a reaction. Which it did.
It's not?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
But if it's not a serious vote and you don't believe in No Lynching calling you out on it would be the correct response. This feels like a town post, just one based in faulty logic.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Why not both?
But seriously both is the answer. You voted a bad option and are trying to lynch me for calling you out on it? That's a bit silly.
You mean the best option?
No lynching and blind shooting is best plan.
Lets go
You know that you are more likely to kill town than scum at this stage, and Bus Driver will def swap town with scum.
D_V, explain yourself.
I totally came out not inquisitive.
As for it being a bad RVS option I believe that No lynching is bad for town today, you voted for it and are now trying to avoid explaining why you voted for it. You also seem to think it's a bad option today since you said:
Your reaction to my reaction makes no sense.
Vote: Shadow
The vigs can function like vanilla town until the bus driver got lynched.
Well, unless the I was going to shoot at a townie and instead hit a wolf now
The GJ way path to no lynching:
You were fishing for reactions to an anti town play and found a push, what else did you expect to find? Unless you're just caught scum.
Plus you ignored the part where I was fishing for people's opinions before you voted no lynch.
Either way what makes you think my posts before hand weren't genuine? My second post of the game is saying we need to lynch because we can't win by vigging as long as the busdriver is alive and can self target.
How is your vote both "fishing for reactions" and a "RVS option"?
How are those two stances backwards?
K I'll day vig Shadow seems solid plan
Meh... Still think I did show genuine interest in the reasons for voting and your turn around onto me felt forced, but I can see you trying to implement it after Hunt caught you with it.
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