@Cantrip:
I think, in Avalon, Osi came off badly unintentionally on D1 and played it up since he knew he couldn't get lynched, then dropped it later on.
re: Nacho's vote... he said you said Rodemy said (heh) "he knew that voting someone outside of the game was a scumtell" and he "feels you're extending out a bit too far here" but you pretty clearly said Rodemy demonstrated knowledge of the "tell" in another game and while I agree you're probably reaching he didn't explain why that felt scummy to him.
I'm not reading anything into Rodemy's vote, but Nacho's either not reading or misrepresenting you.
I'm sort of leaning towards not reading if only because it's not the only thing he glossed over in his posts, but.
You could try, I don't know, talking to me or explaining what's so "fake" about it instead of just screaming that it's "fake news" whenever I post something.
Like, is it not that? Or is it that and you don't want to admit it?
You could try, I don't know, talking to me or explaining what's so "fake" about it instead of just screaming that it's "fake news" whenever I post something.
Like, is it not that? Or is it that and you don't want to admit it?
clearly you are scum is what I'm trying to say. Like have you read the type of stuff you're posting?
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So according to Voxx, one of Silver and Ophidia are scum.
Well, this is interesting. Let's Vote Silver.
As if.. yer not the one who said it first.. *hick* ya strange bastard can't even keep track of whatchyer saying, and i should know, *hick* i've said some stupid *****e in my days... But i am weary. lemme try and jog my memory a bit more
*pulls out a flask and sips*
Kpaca seems like eed be on our side. Methinks it's the way he.. *hick* rustled Ophi's first post. I had the same question..*hick* But the answer is NAI... so..
...because I had the dream and thought it was funny. It was one of those dreams that felt really real, like I had to look at my computer to see if I had really been posting and talking to Vaimes.
Why wouldn't I mention it?
It feels like you're deflecting, you aren't actually answering the original question.
An yer makin tha 'ole situation a bigger deal than it isn't. Why did you tag into this? *hick*
Also I'm flavor claiming now I'm one of two brothers I hunt demons and ***** with my other brother. There's a TV show with us. I need to get the four rings for plot reasons.
I love this flavor.
*Hick* i feel like yer playing favorites..Also, *hick* why did you vote silver if you agree with D_V.. *hick*
The overreactions are strong with these ones. Tammy claims to not be defensive then posts two paragraphs not-for-profit herself, DV votes Osie who then posts a T/S list when it's so early it can't signify anything accept trying to appease everyone else.
Y so twitchy?!
Rodemy's having fun with a roleplay, at this point it's nothing. Cantrips questions fit, but kpacas vote looks lazy and with the lack of anything else regarding it scummy.
Ayyyyyeee.. *points* I like you.
I dun think I like *hick* Cantrip trying to pin my personaltiy.. on getting out of.. *hick* tryin to kil this apocolypse.. iso.. fugger.. when i posted the reason why.. *hick* tell me, mate.. *hick* if i plan to spend then entire rest of my life drunk as the day my mother was when she birthed me.. *hick*
'ow the **** do i plan to use it to.. back out of wha ti wanned to do.. say "NAHHHHHHHHH" I WAS JUST DRUNK.... *hick* like that *****es gonna work if i were scum.. *snicker*... Can yew imagine.. *hick* Me?.. a horseman of the apocolypse.. *hick* *deep inhales* GAHAHAA. I dun even think i cul ride a herse if ya told me.
Why would scum!Tom attack this early in the game with a "this is role-related" argument?
It's not even primarily that which seems fishy. He somehow clears Rodemy (because of role playing? Dunno) and throws shade at Tammy and Zionite. On top of that, he has this seemingly made-up "role-related" argument.
Yeah, it's that "role-related" argument that gives me Town vibes. I mean, he's tossed it out there, all casual like. If he can't back it up, he's going to get scrutiny, which is just what scum doesn't want, especially this early in the game (at least, usually). I'm not saying that it's fishy; I'm asking you to make sense of that action coming from scum. How would that make sense to you?
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Come to think of it, why do you have a scumlean on me? Since I'm guessing your degree of pressure on my so far is either related to that or is more sinister.
...you seriously have to ask this? I don't feel like I've been cryptic or vague in my questions over the last few hours. So lets do a little exercise. You tell me why you think I'm scumreading you.
Silver, you get some townpoints for tossing that out there. I have an opinion on you fullclaiming, but I would like to hold off saying anything until after more people have responded to you.
Silver, please explain to me why you feel the need to claim.
On your question, you are the far superior mafia player. I trust that your decision is better than mine.
Mmm. I thought I explained it pretty well, but.
I get "certain information" at twilight.
I can't do anything with this "information" by myself, i.e. the information doesn't tell me anything useful about the game state that I wouldn't have otherwise known and it doesn't inform some other aspect of my role.
I'm wondering if I should claim so that someone who can use the information at twilight gets the information in time to make good decisions.
Sounds like ya already made up yer mind, dollface.. *hick* Claim fer ****s sake.
Like. I support pressuring Osi but don't really want him lynched. His wagon is plenty long enough for that already.
I'm currently voting another one your scum reads.
Why are you even voting Rodemy? Just sheeping Cantrip?
Ohhh. I see. You don't like that I don't think Rodemy is scum. Is that what this is? I must be his partner because I disagree? That's what makes my reads "contrived?" Maybe it's that combined with the fact I don't *have* any scum reads? (I've done this song-and-dance on D1 before.)
Look. He definitely could be scum. I'm not ruling anyone out at this point. It's too early to have super firm town reads.
But the thing is. I don't think scum!Rodemy does what Cantrip said he did. Last game I played in was *against* scum Rodemy. It doesn't really fit what I remember of him.
*Hick* MY.. HEERRRROOO *hick* I dun like Kpaca too much either. After reading him a bit more.. *hick* he ssseems....aggressive and.. *mumbles *
On the one hand I want you to be town because that would mean our good fortune is replacing the curse, but on the other hand you really want to be scum this game so I want you to be scum, but then that would mean I'd get frustrated or something and have to lynch you and then that sucks, so I don't know what I want.
So I had a dream that I drew town, the role pm even looked kinda similar which is eerie, and Vaimes and I clicked immediately and it was awesome. One part of it was prophetic so that's all yay, but Vaimes isn't here so that's boo.
Hi everybody!
Constantly drawing town with you until we have a beautiful game together isn't exactly the worst thing in the world, but such beautiful things could have been experienced in this thread.
You could try, I don't know, talking to me or explaining what's so "fake" about it instead of just screaming that it's "fake news" whenever I post something.
Like, is it not that? Or is it that and you don't want to admit it?
clearly you are scum is what I'm trying to say. Like have you read the type of stuff you're posting?
I don't think I've started a game where I didn't come under pressure D1 for "feeling stilted" or "not having scum reads" or something.
I can link you to extremely similar posts I've made in other games I've played in if you'd like.
You should probably go find real scum instead coming after me for my tone or whatever.
If this post seems kind of vague it's probably because I still don't know what your problem is, exactly.
Like. I support pressuring Osi but don't really want him lynched. His wagon is plenty long enough for that already.
I'm currently voting another one your scum reads.
Why are you even voting Rodemy? Just sheeping Cantrip?
Ohhh. I see. You don't like that I don't think Rodemy is scum. Is that what this is? I must be his partner because I disagree? That's what makes my reads "contrived?" Maybe it's that combined with the fact I don't *have* any scum reads? (I've done this song-and-dance on D1 before.)
Look. He definitely could be scum. I'm not ruling anyone out at this point. It's too early to have super firm town reads.
But the thing is. I don't think scum!Rodemy does what Cantrip said he did. Last game I played in was *against* scum Rodemy. It doesn't really fit what I remember of him.
...because I had the dream and thought it was funny. It was one of those dreams that felt really real, like I had to look at my computer to see if I had really been posting and talking to Vaimes.
Why wouldn't I mention it?
It feels like you're deflecting, you aren't actually answering the original question.
An yer makin tha 'ole situation a bigger deal than it isn't. Why did you tag into this? *hick*
Because it felt like Tammy was deflecting...Not really relevant anymore, I'm not worried about Tammy, she had some good posts shortly thereafter.
For the record I'm pretty certain Silver is town because he said something I could only see coming from his town perspective style of play.
Also that role claim felt pretty towny to me.
Hm, I'm sure that means something. Eventually I will figure out what. Though I would have liked that answer to come from Tammy, or at least for her to answer first, unless I missed that as it's been proven I can't read once already.
For the record I'm pretty certain Silver is town because he said something I could only see coming from his town perspective style of play.
Also that role claim felt pretty towny to me.
Hm, I'm sure that means something. Eventually I will figure out what. Though I would have liked that answer to come from Tammy, or at least for her to answer first, unless I missed that as it's been proven I can't read once already.
its part of the essence of tammy i was talking about earlier.
i dont get her at all. i dont even know why im townreading her now.
like. ive established a tammy baseline. and she is thoroughly... on it. i guess.
but somehow, me and tammy are like 7-0 when on the same team. the scum wins make sense. but 4 of those we were town together.
so i like the way were both just sort of interacting with each other but not really getting anything out of it. i feel its a good sign aorn.
Y is osie freaking out about that one tom comment.
I don't know about freaking out; it legitimately seemed strange.
I mean, the attention you are bringing to it is like someone calling the police because someone littered. It's Tom, he says weird things all the time, it's not like that's any different than others.
i almost said something about how i can outlazy anyone when osi called me worse than kpaca. but then i see kpaca playing...
does anyone here know kpaca's scumgame? i dont think ive ever seen it
Hm, I'm sure that means something. Eventually I will figure out what. Though I would have liked that answer to come from Tammy, or at least for her to answer first, unless I missed that as it's been proven I can't read once already.
its part of the essence of tammy i was talking about earlier.
i dont get her at all. i dont even know why im townreading her now.
like. ive established a tammy baseline. and she is thoroughly... on it. i guess.
but somehow, me and tammy are like 7-0 when on the same team. the scum wins make sense. but 4 of those we were town together.
so i like the way were both just sort of interacting with each other but not really getting anything out of it. i feel its a good sign aorn.
Hm okay, I feel like I can't read her worth a ***** so your insight is helpful. Will trust you for the time being.
Ha! Cantrip is town until further notice.
(There's no way this can burn me, nope, not a chance)
i like this little exchange between cantrip and shadow. both ways.
it looks like two townies finding eachother. AND i think theyre both town anyway. and it makes me happy.
i almost said something about how i can outlazy anyone when osi called me worse than kpaca. but then i see kpaca playing...
does anyone here know kpaca's scumgame? i dont think ive ever seen it
I dun think anyone is dumb enough tuh play like a scum version of themselves.. *hick especially if they were scum.. wish odd why I hate metagaming.. *hick*
You asking about kpacas scumgame throws unnessesary heat onto an already burning fire..
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Also, we probably need WG to explain his governor mention.
governor's don't know the alignment of the person whose lynch they overturn
silver knows the alignment
that makes him stronger
I guess it's not "straight buff" because he doesn't guaranteed overturn and we have to take his word for it. But I think it wouldn't be too hard to believe him once it happened, had he not revealed.
It's even easier to believe now but I'm not sure how much use we'll get from the ability.
Also, we probably need WG to explain his governor mention.
governor's don't know the alignment of the person whose lynch they overturn
silver knows the alignment
that makes him stronger
I guess it's not "straight buff" because he doesn't guaranteed overturn and we have to take his word for it. But I think it wouldn't be too hard to believe him once it happened, had he not revealed.
It's even easier to believe now but I'm not sure how much use we'll get from the ability.
Silver can't actually stop the lynch though. We can't change votes during twilight. It's pretty stupid with an actual governor, but I assume we don't have one.
Silver, you mentioned that you see similarities between Osie here and town!Osie in Avalon, but Avalon Osie specifically realized partway through the game that his play was detrimental, and he stepped up his game. I feel like this has a good chance to be scum!Osie, but I'm ok being proven wrong. Either way, the path to determining which Osie we have is pressure.
Yeah, I didn't learn much from that, I guess, since the same thing happened in a manner of speaking in Revolution.
Osi is doing a lot of stuff I attacked him for in Avalon, but 182 feels very different from that game. I don't remember him acting so defeated in Avalon.
I was pretty bored/defeated for most of Avalon... That's why I started pretending to be a backup game mod in the middle of it, though that has other uses in terms of remembering info and making sure other town analytics think about it.
182 was me saying that I had to go do meatworld stuff and that I realized that I was not actually in danger of being mislynched.
Reading over most of the thread again, I'm getting:
Townread:
Silver
Tammy
Shadow
Townlean:
kpaca
AG
D_V
Anak
Wheat
Rodemy
Could go either way; Light townlean:
Cantrip
Ophidia
Scumlean:
Nacho
Huntzilla
Scumread:
Zionite
Tom
In regards to PBAP for Tom:
Post 72: This comes out of nowhere with zero explanation. In Post 73 he clarifies that he might explain it later. This is after very little has happened.
Post 80: "Role related?" What? So he's hinting at a role that gives him static information on another player. I.e. Scum.
Post 134: He's defensively throwing shade at me, but his reasoning is illogical…
Post 186: So most of his scumread on me is based on jokes I made during RVS… what? Also, why is he continuing with the Axel/Zionite confusion now that it was explicitly cleared up?
The interaction with D_V seems forced. If D_V didn't otherwise look townie, I'd say this was scumbuddies.
Post 216: This seriously looks like a scumbuddy interaction…
Post 267: It's like Tom knows he might not survive for long and he's trying to leave an implication that Tammy might be scum by association.
Post 272: This bugs me, since I think he might legitimately be propping up a buddy amongst the two of them, not that they need it, per se.
Post 275: Wants to see how well a buddy is hiding, potentially setting up a bus.
Osi, I have no information about you. I'm done role hinting for now, but that was more a cross claim than a red check
This will all make sense later.
The remainder of that case is bad but it tracks. Ima back off you now with no visible reasoning.
Maybe I'll iso you in avalon later, even though it's not a mafia game...
Mmm. I wonder what the chances are scum!Ophidia fakes a "slip" like that and either (1) lies about having a day kill or (2) actually has a day kill.
Probably not very good I guess, unless the team is like. Ophidia/Rodemy because Rodemy's vote there makes absolutely no sense except as a distancing attempt.
I think, in Avalon, Osi came off badly unintentionally on D1 and played it up since he knew he couldn't get lynched, then dropped it later on.
re: Nacho's vote... he said you said Rodemy said (heh) "he knew that voting someone outside of the game was a scumtell" and he "feels you're extending out a bit too far here" but you pretty clearly said Rodemy demonstrated knowledge of the "tell" in another game and while I agree you're probably reaching he didn't explain why that felt scummy to him.
I'm not reading anything into Rodemy's vote, but Nacho's either not reading or misrepresenting you.
I'm sort of leaning towards not reading if only because it's not the only thing he glossed over in his posts, but.
Like, is it not that? Or is it that and you don't want to admit it?
So it is me, silver and who? Just give us the list.
Now... i know my memory.. *hick* is a bit *****. And to be frank.. I'm rodemy.. *giggles at his own stupid joke*
But cantrip said.. This..
Now *hick* why would you call him.. *hick* mislynsh.. Fodder..(?)
that sounds.. to me... like something.. thass nah funneh.
..
..
AND YOU *points at Osi*
Tha FU-*URP* is this bit of information relavant for.. *hick*
Thass not even relevant to the sishiati... the. *motions around* thes.
*hick*
And then, ya go an sey this blarney...
As if.. yer not the one who said it first.. *hick* ya strange bastard can't even keep track of whatchyer saying, and i should know, *hick* i've said some stupid *****e in my days... But i am weary. lemme try and jog my memory a bit more
*pulls out a flask and sips*
Kpaca seems like eed be on our side. Methinks it's the way he.. *hick* rustled Ophi's first post. I had the same question..*hick* But the answer is NAI... so..
An yer makin tha 'ole situation a bigger deal than it isn't. Why did you tag into this? *hick*
Well..*erp*. FECK YEW TOO.... *sticks out middle finger
*Hick* i feel like yer playing favorites..Also, *hick* why did you vote silver if you agree with D_V.. *hick*
Ayyyyyeee.. *points* I like you.
I dun think I like *hick* Cantrip trying to pin my personaltiy.. on getting out of.. *hick* tryin to kil this apocolypse.. iso.. fugger.. when i posted the reason why.. *hick* tell me, mate.. *hick* if i plan to spend then entire rest of my life drunk as the day my mother was when she birthed me.. *hick*
'ow the **** do i plan to use it to.. back out of wha ti wanned to do.. say "NAHHHHHHHHH" I WAS JUST DRUNK.... *hick* like that *****es gonna work if i were scum.. *snicker*... Can yew imagine.. *hick* Me?.. a horseman of the apocolypse.. *hick* *deep inhales* GAHAHAA. I dun even think i cul ride a herse if ya told me.
*hick*
*stands up and aplaudes* BRAVO.. unvote
Sounds like ya already made up yer mind, dollface.. *hick* Claim fer ****s sake.
Oh ya deed... *hick* good on ya mate.
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT..
*Hick* MY.. HEERRRROOO *hick* I dun like Kpaca too much either. After reading him a bit more.. *hick* he ssseems....aggressive and.. *mumbles *
Unvote
Vote Nacho
Okee good start.
Make your T/S list right now.. *hands napkin*
I don't think I've started a game where I didn't come under pressure D1 for "feeling stilted" or "not having scum reads" or something.
I can link you to extremely similar posts I've made in other games I've played in if you'd like.
You should probably go find real scum instead coming after me for my tone or whatever.
If this post seems kind of vague it's probably because I still don't know what your problem is, exactly.
You know what, just explain all the logical deductions you have had so far.
WRONG.
SAD.
WRONG.
*digs out eyes with a grapefruit spoon*
*takes deep breath* Because it felt like Tammy was deflecting...Not really relevant anymore, I'm not worried about Tammy, she had some good posts shortly thereafter.
Also that role claim felt pretty towny to me.
Hm, I'm sure that means something. Eventually I will figure out what. Though I would have liked that answer to come from Tammy, or at least for her to answer first, unless I missed that as it's been proven I can't read once already.
What do you only see coming from town?
im gonna relish taking my sweet ass time to post in the sanity of an mtgs game
i dont get her at all. i dont even know why im townreading her now.
like. ive established a tammy baseline. and she is thoroughly... on it. i guess.
but somehow, me and tammy are like 7-0 when on the same team. the scum wins make sense. but 4 of those we were town together.
so i like the way were both just sort of interacting with each other but not really getting anything out of it. i feel its a good sign aorn.
I mean, the attention you are bringing to it is like someone calling the police because someone littered. It's Tom, he says weird things all the time, it's not like that's any different than others.
does anyone here know kpaca's scumgame? i dont think ive ever seen it
Hm okay, I feel like I can't read her worth a ***** so your insight is helpful. Will trust you for the time being.
it looks like two townies finding eachother. AND i think theyre both town anyway. and it makes me happy.
I dun think anyone is dumb enough tuh play like a scum version of themselves.. *hick especially if they were scum.. wish odd why I hate metagaming.. *hick*
You asking about kpacas scumgame throws unnessesary heat onto an already burning fire..
Officially throwing shade on AtheistGod for lack of focus. Are we playing the same game?
I couldn't quite understand why no one lynched Nacho in JPA2 because he was so painfully, obviously, scum.
And this game, he's doing the same damned thing. He's acting so completely fake.
osie can wait.
governor's don't know the alignment of the person whose lynch they overturn
silver knows the alignment
that makes him stronger
I guess it's not "straight buff" because he doesn't guaranteed overturn and we have to take his word for it. But I think it wouldn't be too hard to believe him once it happened, had he not revealed.
It's even easier to believe now but I'm not sure how much use we'll get from the ability.
Silver can't actually stop the lynch though. We can't change votes during twilight. It's pretty stupid with an actual governor, but I assume we don't have one.
well then yeah you're okay silver
I thought you were claiming governor and we could fight crime together but we've got that all straightened out now.
Thass a strange assumption ya got from that claim, there. *hick*
Silver never mentioned anything about... *erp*..
....
Ughhh... *hick*
He never menshuns... *hick* overturning the lynch...
But Wheat... gathers that... *hick*.. from.. nothing.
*hick* what gives mate?
Yeah, I didn't learn much from that, I guess, since the same thing happened in a manner of speaking in Revolution.
I was pretty bored/defeated for most of Avalon... That's why I started pretending to be a backup game mod in the middle of it, though that has other uses in terms of remembering info and making sure other town analytics think about it.
182 was me saying that I had to go do meatworld stuff and that I realized that I was not actually in danger of being mislynched.
I see where we stand now.
@Shadow: It could be that Silver's trying to play Silver...
Time to go reread the thread and reexamine some people.
*Strongman kill
Silver
Tammy
Shadow
Townlean:
kpaca
AG
D_V
Anak
Wheat
Rodemy
Could go either way; Light townlean:
Cantrip
Ophidia
Scumlean:
Nacho
Huntzilla
Scumread:
Zionite
Tom
In regards to PBAP for Tom:
Post 80: "Role related?" What? So he's hinting at a role that gives him static information on another player. I.e. Scum.
Post 134: He's defensively throwing shade at me, but his reasoning is illogical…
Post 186: So most of his scumread on me is based on jokes I made during RVS… what? Also, why is he continuing with the Axel/Zionite confusion now that it was explicitly cleared up?
The interaction with D_V seems forced. If D_V didn't otherwise look townie, I'd say this was scumbuddies.
Post 216: This seriously looks like a scumbuddy interaction…
Post 267: It's like Tom knows he might not survive for long and he's trying to leave an implication that Tammy might be scum by association.
Post 272: This bugs me, since I think he might legitimately be propping up a buddy amongst the two of them, not that they need it, per se.
Post 275: Wants to see how well a buddy is hiding, potentially setting up a bus.
If this was in regard to kpaca, what were you expecting?
This will all make sense later.
The remainder of that case is bad but it tracks. Ima back off you now with no visible reasoning.
Maybe I'll iso you in avalon later, even though it's not a mafia game...
unvote, vote nacho
Wutda****'mayt....
*hick* jaysus, dijyew grow a pair of clackers since I lass saw ya?
Ulso,
This thrayt ain't gone do you no good righ now, mate. Straight thicko move thar lad.
I'm weary to vote the bogger fer this in case heez town. Also, i member em bayin quite out iz 'ed in Overwatch s'well.
But feck it! I think we got ourselves one!
unvote vote ophi
could also just be a drunk irishman
I should not have claimed. Also I was expecting him to give a reason.
Somebody translate this for me.
Probably not very good I guess, unless the team is like. Ophidia/Rodemy because Rodemy's vote there makes absolutely no sense except as a distancing attempt.
unvote
I dare you to try.