No offense, but I fail to see how this is a "jerk move". It's a more casual than usual tournament, but it's still sanctioned and therefore everyone still wants to win. Someone playing to win within the rules is not a jerk.
Oh, it wasn't that he pointed it out. It was more so his attitude while pointing it out. Like he was just waiting for me to slip up and called me out on it the first chance he got.
This isn't so much a case of a bad opponent as much as a bad judge. At the Alara Reborn prerelease there was a sealed 2HG tournament. At some point I played Viashino Slaughtermaster blocked an opponent's Deft Duelist. Now obviously the two creatures would trade, my opponent thought otherwise. He was convinced that double strike meant the creature just assigned combat damage twice using the regular combat damage step, allowing Deft Duelist to get rid of my Viashino before it was killed. Although my knowledge of the rules at the time wasn't very good, my teammate knew how Double Strike worked and called a judge. There was only one judge at the event so I assume he was the head judge. He told me that Double Strike does not cause the creature to assign First Strike damage. PHAIL.
Fortunately my shop is fine. Well, except that one time in a Gateway league when my opponent (probably 10-12 years old) thought that his Behemoth's Herald could get him a Godsire just by sacrificing a Wooly Thoctar. We asked one of the two judges who play there and he said he was right, bu I asked the other one (who is the more experienced judge) and he said that you can't do it. Up until he said that my opponent was saying "nyah-nyah, you're dead" and that kind of stuff. The rest of the games were fine, but this one sticks out.
The only time I faced an idiot on MWS was in a draft game. We played two games, in the first one he mills me out with a mind funeral (JUST hitting all my bombs, including a banefire, the last card was the fourth land). The second game I was about to lose and topdeck my Banefire, winning that turn. He just said "I win" and left.
Mine was when I got first place playing SCR draft and the opponent asked me for my rating. I thought he was asking for my name, so I told him "Hi, I'm Chris, nice to play you Doug." And he replied "I don't care, what's your rating?"
And that pissed me off a little so I replied, "I don't care about my rating. I don't think I activated my DCI." (which is true, I just play drafts for fun).
Apparently his rating wasn't that high either ~1600. It's really annoying when all people care is their rating and be rude to others, and most importantly destroy the fun of others.
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I like designing decks and I am primarily a control player. Using Drain to fight Workshops is like using Exclude to fight Dark Confidant.
Heh, If I've had a buck for everytime I've found a douchebag in MWS play rooms, I'd at least get a nice chicken bucket. I've found about everything:
-"So ANOTHER player with dark sligh, how original"
-"You see? I drafted a sick deck, you just concede now and avoid the shame"
-"EOT? EOT? EOT?"
But I haven't practiced in MWS mostly because I either get totally dominated (normally by very good players and decent people) or once I start to get things going my way, I stumble upon hordes of "PLAYER LOST" types. You know the drill, Blightning their two only remaining threats = PLAYER LOST, path to exile right after announcing a creature enchantment = PLAYER LOST. Cryptic command their spell while bouncing my own Ranger of Eos = PLAYER LOST.
In general, MWS rooms have been one huge Trollywood for me.
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Everything changes, nothing remains without a change - Buddha
Heh, If I've had a buck for everytime I've found a douchebag in MWS play rooms, I'd at least get a nice chicken bucket. I've found about everything:
-"So ANOTHER player with dark sligh, how original"
-"You see? I drafted a sick deck, you just concede now and avoid the shame"
-"EOT? EOT? EOT?"
But I haven't practiced in MWS mostly because I either get totally dominated (normally by very good players and decent people) or once I start to get things going my way, I stumble upon hordes of "PLAYER LOST" types. You know the drill, Blightning their two only remaining threats = PLAYER LOST, path to exile right after announcing a creature enchantment = PLAYER LOST. Cryptic command their spell while bouncing my own Ranger of Eos = PLAYER LOST.
In general, MWS rooms have been one huge Trollywood for me.
There are four main archetypes of MWS players, most of them unpleasant:
The Winner - This guy's out to win and nothing's going to stop him from keeping a perfect streak. Anything not going his way will cause his cursor to hover over to the X button in the top-right of the screen. Not a perfect starting hand? That's what mulligans are for, right? Not for this character, he isn't going to be stopped by unimportant factors such as luck or challenge, it's much easier to just quit.
The Pro - His DCI rating is over 9000. There's a huge, important tournament tomorrow he's taking part in and you aren't going to get in his way. Thought about your next move for too long, didn't bother to use phases, took too long sideboarding? He's gone. You aren't good enough for him and the moment you slip up he can allow himself to find someone more worthy of his netdecking talents.
The Newb - You open an Extended Casual game and this character stumbles in with a competitive Standard deck he downloaded. He's quite new to MTG and *you* will be guilted into teaching him how MWS works.
¿Español? - He doesn't speak English but that won't stop him. It's the first turn and you play an Island followed by Ponder. You glance at the chatbox and to your horror are greeted by an amalgam of the words "Wait!" and "Ok" plastered in front of you fifty times, you now know what kind of game awaits you. You cast Hero's Demise on his Treetop Village in ape form with Leyline of Singularity on the battlefield, communication is impossible and the situation is hopeless, abort.
The Genuinely Friendly Player - It happens sometimes.
We had one of those guys at our local store for awhile. Some of his antics:
During drafts, he'd always complain loudly about the crappy signals he was being sent.
He'd loudly belittle players about not picking certain cards. "How do you not take this card? It's always a first pick. You're stupid!", etc.
Constantly complain about how slow his opponents were playing, no matter how fast they were playing.
'Half-tapping' his lands. Instead of turning his land the standard 90 degrees, he turns it about 9 degrees.
Play incredibly fast to prevent an opponent from reacting. You know the type.
Him (in the span of 2 seconds): I untap, draw my card for the turn, and attack with everything. Me: OK, well I tap down X creature before you attack. Him: Nope, too late, you have to do that before I declare attackers.
Showboating after any and every victory. We had a 14-yr old show up to the shop to play once - the kid barely understood the basic rules but decided he'd like to try a draft anyways. I believe they got paired up in the first round. After easily 2-0ing the kid, he fist pumped and danced around in celebration. The kid never returned. Seriously, it's one thing to just be a terrible ambassador to the game, but it's a completely different thing to be a jerk to kids.
I'll never forget a game I had against him in the finals of an FNM draft. We're in game 3 and the final game is going into extra innings. I'm out of gas and he's got a slight board advantage. I draw a land and play a Biomantic Mastery that I've been nursing since my opening hand, drawing 9 cards and completely refueling my hand. He complains about how that card is pathetic and how amazed he is I even picked it/played it. I end up winning and he's just devastated about how he lost to such a jank rare. He throws his deck off the table, leaves, and never returns to FNM draft again.
There are four main archetypes of MWS players, most of them unpleasant:
The Winner - This guy's out to win and nothing's going to stop him from keeping a perfect streak. Anything not going his way will cause his cursor to hover over to the X button in the top-right of the screen. Not a perfect starting hand? That's what mulligans are for, right? Not for this character, he isn't going to be stopped by unimportant factors such as luck or challenge, it's much easier to just quit.
The Pro - His DCI rating is over 9000. There's a huge, important tournament tomorrow he's taking part in and you aren't going to get in his way. Thought about your next move for too long, didn't bother to use phases, took too long sideboarding? He's gone. You aren't good enough for him and the moment you slip up he can allow himself to find someone more worthy of his netdecking talents.
The Newb - You open an Extended Casual game and this character stumbles in with a competitive Standard deck he downloaded. He's quite new to MTG and *you* will be guilted into teaching him how MWS works.
¿Español? - He doesn't speak English but that won't stop him. It's the first turn and you play an Island followed by Ponder. You glance at the chatbox and to your horror are greeted by an amalgam of the words "Wait!" and "Ok" plastered in front of you fifty times, you now know what kind of game awaits you. You cast Hero's Demise on his Treetop Village in ape form with Leyline of Singularity on the battlefield, communication is impossible and the situation is hopeless, abort.
The Genuinely Friendly Player - It happens sometimes.
You forgot about the italians and the french in that little Guide. Many a good nights of trash talking have come to ends with these players. Endless chatter about how humility does effect manlands and that I am wrong, or about how I am a noob for this reason or that reason. Needless to say most of it happens when they arn't winning.
Right, enough of this blanket flaming. Infraction issued.
-Memnarch
You forgot about the italians and the french in that little Guide. Many a good nights of trash talking have come to ends with these players. Endless chatter about how humility does effect manlands and that I am wrong, or about how I am a noob for this reason or that reason. Needless to say most of it happens when they arn't winning.
I've encountered the Spanish variety much more often, dunno why. I mean, half the games in MWS say "Standard 2/3 espanol", why can't only English-speakers join my games? :3
We've weeded out most of those a-holes at our store. It only took about six years or so... Some of it was thanks to college graduation... others got banned from the store for various reasons. We've learned not to tolerate poor sportsmanship and general douchebaggery in there anymore. But before that...
There was this one guy in particular, back before Alara block, who would usually bring in Fae(with Hammer) and win more often than not. He was a good player, but unfortunately, very obnoxious and cocky. Horrible to trade with because he would always undervalue your stuff and overvalue his own, etc.
Anyway, I had been bringing in Demigod Red, which had a decent matchup vs. Fae anyway. When I beat him in the final, his face got all red and it looked like he was about to pop his top. He started to stuff his things into his bag angrily and wondering aloud how his Fae deck got beaten by some lowly red aggro deck.
The next week, we met in the final again. When I drop him to 8 life in game 3 and then play double Flame Javelin, he looks at his hand, then back at the Javelins, then his hand, then proceeds to yell at me, "You are such a LUCKSACK!" and leaves in a tizzy again.
The third week, I play him yet again in the final, but this time he's playing WU Pickles. Those games were easier for me to play against, but it really didn't prevent him from attempting to rationalize to himself that it was his fault I won and not me playing my deck well. All three of these matches were very close and tightly played by both of us... I just couldn't understand how he could have ignored the fact that our games were that good and close and not even acknowledge my part in it.
After that, and a short hiatus on his part, he came back with a little more respect for the other players and a more generally friendly attitude. I'd like to think I helped that come about.
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Several years ago, WotC apparently surveyed Magic players across the globe. They found that people liked turning things sideways, and hated LD. This is the result:
I don't have any horror stories like these, but I do know some players who are just plain weird, and with poor hygiene. The type of people that makes me wonder what they are like in real life, because I can't picture them existing in the world outside of the store, you know what I mean?
And just a question to the people who have told stories about people flipping tables or throwing the opponent's deck across the room, what happened to these people? Maybe it's just because the store I play FNM at is in a somewhat rough city, but I know several players who would not hesitate to thoroughly beat the living **** out of a guy who flipped a table or threw someone's deck across the room. Throwing or destroying your own property is stupid and childish, but destroying or damaging someone else's property is asking for a beating.
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My little cousin who I got into the game at the age of 10 was at his first FNM, versing some guy around my age (14) who was really ****y. My cousin was running some horrible Giant deck - with about 60 one ofs in it (but I still encouraged him to play well) and my opponent was playing B/W tokens.
I had wrapped up my game and was sitting beside my cousin watching. The conversation went something like.
Cousin: My turn.
Some guy: (points at my cousin, eyeing about three giants on the field.) What's he running?
Opponent: Some ****ty deck - giants I think.... ha! This guy is a complete noob - he sucks! And I am 'bout to trounce him with my horde of tokens.
Cousin: Tap out for, Thundercloud Shaman dealing 4 damage to all of your tokens, killing them all.
Some guy: Good luck with that mate (talking to the opponent).
And just a question to the people who have told stories about people flipping tables or throwing the opponent's deck across the room, what happened to these people? Maybe it's just because the store I play FNM at is in a somewhat rough city, but I know several players who would not hesitate to thoroughly beat the living **** out of a guy who flipped a table or threw someone's deck across the room. Throwing or destroying your own property is stupid and childish, but destroying or damaging someone else's property is asking for a beating.
I've seen people get pounded for that. In a T2 tourney a while back (I think it was shortly after Planar Chaos) we had someone new come into the store who was pretty much the biggest ******* you could possibly think up. Belittles anyone not playing a top eight deck, not playing a deck under $300, pretty much everyone has talked of in this thread wrapped up in one, yeah that kind of guy. We shall call him... Idiotbox.
So this was before our shop got a prerelease, and the shop owner had a playset of the Prerelease Oros, the Avengers as the first place prize along with some amount of packs. As you can imagine I wanted those dragons. It comes down to me, Sarah (close friend of mine), Idiotbox, and some little kid who was new. As luck would have it, I faced the kid and Sarah got Idiotbox. And Sarah is not a nice girl when people talk down to her. I won against the kid 2-0 and felt kinda bad, seeing as he made it to the top four only to get ruined by me. I go over to watch Sarah's match and she is destroying Idiotbox with a monowhite agro deck in their second round. She won round one and he is not happy with that. He just keeps getting worse and worse with the arrogance and insults making Sarah angrier and angrier. She plays Akroma, Angel of Wrath and it hits the board. Two turns later Idiotbox is gone, and he loses it. Throws his deck and her deck across the room. Bad idea. When she punched him, he hit the floor hard and went from flaring red to pale in seconds, someone actually thought she killed him. Nope, he was outcold though. So she picks up her deck, trashes his, and it gets to our final round. Everyone calms down once she starts smiling and alughing in our match again. I ended winning by 1 life in the 3rd match, I got my dragons, gave the kid I beat the some odd amount of packs (I think it was six or eight) for getting to the top four in his first tournament, and we ended up dumping idiotbox in the bed of his truck. He never came in for his cards, nor did he ever come back.
/\ I literally lol'd when I read he got knocked out /\
Closest thing we have to a large caliber jerk here is a guy that we call "headphones". Whenever he plays he always wears headphones to seemingly tune out his opponent. He'll purposely play against newer players in an attempt to screw them over by changing the rules to his favor (such as saying you can't sac a Qasali Pridemage right after you play him because of summoning sickness). That's pretty much it though. He falls apart whenever he plays anyone with a good understanding of the rules.
I got paired up going into Rd 5 as 2-2. Guy starts by asking me to concede since, "there was no way I could T8". I elected to play. End up losing the first game, then beating him the next two. Offered a handshake and good game, and he says, "no it wasn't, you just played so you could ****block me out of top 8, there's no way you can make it."
Turns out one of my opponents drew where his lost, and I made 8th on breakers, so not only was he a jerk, but he got to eat some delicious crow in the end.
He never came in for his cards, nor did he ever come back.
I'm not sure which of these 3 is most awesome...
a) Idiotbox knocked out by a girl in one punch
b) Idiotbox knocked out during a game of MTG
c) The mental picture of everyone returning to play MTG with a guy knocked out on the floor
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On a more serious note:
Online I actually don't mind people going off on me. I find it amusing and enjoy reinforcing their statements. It just gets them more steamed up and usually results in an absolute meltdown. Quite funny.
at my first casual event faced a guy who played mind funeral didn't even wait for me to acknowledge it and then proceeded to start flipping my library for it. I said:
WHOA HOLD ON first off wait for it to resolve
2nd the card says I do the action you didn't even ask to touch my cards.
The guy has been cool since but man did he tick me off that night.
one of the guys in my playgroup has a pretty soild mono green elf deck that he always brags that its unbeatable, it really is good, but when i finaly got a good match going with him and tryed to play a Tsabos decree, he got all pissy and said since the only thing in his hand was a moments piece that the second part of the spell didnt resolve, to which i responded with ********. but yeah every time i play him and am wining he pulls some bs excuse, one of my favs was, "you cant say you won cuz you made that black deck to beat my elf" which i did build it with that in mind, but hey it works good all around.
some people
Ok, then I've got a suggestion for your casual deck construction rules:2. No one's deck runs any answers to anything. Killing creatures, countering spells, destroying lands, redirecting abilities, forcing discards: all that stuff is totally not fun.
5. No one actually loses. Winning is fun, and we want everyone to have fun, so the first one to zero life points just wins, and so does everyone else. Then we can shuffle up and have more fun!
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The worst though are the players we all see and know, who make up like half the magic playing population, who grow more and more unstable and rules-anal as they lose. They look and generally smell like apes receiving electro-shock and lean far over the table, manboobs resting on their lands, to make sure you're tapping correctly and blah blah blah - but only after they lost the first match. Before then, the game moves briskly as they assume their path to victory.
Yeah we got one of those in a shop i some times go to across town. fits your description perfectly, except he has racist tattoos (Swastikas, Totenkopf with SS runes, ect). Got trounced by him once before and he really layed in on thick: "your deck sucks" ect ect.
Next time i came there i was packin' stasis. he got really mad when i told him his goyf is dead because he did not pay its upkeep as i pointed to my tabernacle. he complained that he did not know what the card did and i told him thats not my fault, if he wanted to know he should have asked or read the card. He got quite pissed but was back to his "old self" when he natural ordered into a Progenitus. He got really ****s saying he was going to kill me next turn (i had 9 life). "we will see i said" and i passed the turn. End of his upkeep i played ensnare for free. He GOT LIVID!! and scooped. "good game" i said as i reached down my shirt revealing a star of david necklace. LOLOL
I was really glad to bead him as he did not even know how to work his deck right. When i played stasis he had top+counterbalance out, he triggerd the counterbalance revealing a land, "hold on" he said as he activated his top and then showed me a goyf. "your stasis is countered" he said with a smug look and tone of voice. it took 5 people to convince him that he messed up.
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Well, I've had 5 "bad" experiences and witnessed 1 other.
1. It was my first magic tournament. I had never played outsiude of casually with my friends. So I hitch a ride with them to the card shop. I think the term "vintage" sounded cool, so I signed up. I played the local "pro" (He has since plummeted in skill...) and he turn 1 comboed me both games. He acted like a real jerk both games. I didnt win a single game that night.
2. The very next week was Standard. (This was Ravnica block, 9th, Coldsnap, and Time Spiral Set Standard...No Planar Chaos yet) I had to face the same guy round 1. He was playing Zoo. He beat me 2-0. Both games, his shock lands knocked him to 10. He bragged about this so much. "My lands did more damage in this game than your decks have done in the last two weeks".
3. Against my buddy and best friend, Duffy. This happened a few weeks ago. It was an extended tournament. He was running BU mill with Extirpates. I was running Hypergenesis. We faced each other round 1 and he won 2-1. We later faced each other in the finals and after I win 2-0, he lost his temper a bit, telling me how Hypergenesis requires no skill. Meh...It's true, but hey, I won my very first tournament that night.
4. At PTQ Birmingham, Alabama earlier this year...I was playing in round 2 of it at 1-0. I get faced up against Astral Slide(Which a beat round 1). I was piloting Project X-Tended(Project X, but made for Extended). I have a Saffi Eriksdotter in my grave, 7 mana open, a crypt champion in my hand, as well as a bitter ordeal. I tap 4 for crypt. He says "hold on" and thinks for a good 5 minutes. I almost call a judge for him stalling. He finally paths it, saying casually "Go get your creature from Crypt's ability." I do so, and then reach for my library to get a land off of Path. He stops me, saying that since I resolved Crypt Champion's ability, I skipped Path's ability. I just put this over as a douche move. Later, I asked the Head Judge about it. He said that if he were called over and the scenario happened as I said it, my opponent would have been DQ'd for coercing the gamestate.
5. Last week at my local FNM. We play decently casually. We forgive "small" mistakes. Well, I win in the 3rd round against a guy that didn't know how to play very much 2-1. Afterwards, I notice a wayward Siege-Gang Commander poking out from under my playmat. Evidentally sometime during game 1, it got slid under my playmat on accident. I say something about it casually. My buddy DUffy also says something jokingly long the lines of "ooooo!! Gameloss! hahahaha". He was OBVIOUSLY joking. And this little explitive calls me on it. He ends up blackmailing me "Play me in one more game to determine the winner of the match or I'll call you for having an illegal deck." I didn't know the exact penalty for having a 59-card deck, but I assumed it was game-loss. So I would have lost the match, so I oblige and go on to lose. I don't even care about the loss. The fact that he blackmailed me into playing another game just so he wouldn't be in dead-last place is what pissed me off. I've told every other player about what he did, so he has a target on his back for the upcoming 2010 prerelease. Everyone has agreed to call a judge on EVERY little mistake he does. Who has 2 thumbs and is judging this Saturday? *Points to myself* THIS GUY!
6. I was at PTQ Nashville a few months ago. I, and all the players from the store we go to, were sitting in the back of the play-area at TNL Games, waiting for a few matches to end. All of a sudden we hear "Mother ****ing ********! God damn it, *******!" We turn around and like, 3 judges were scolding the ~17 year old kid for his outburst. Evidentally, it was a G/W token mirror. Both had lethal on the board + a Dauntless Escort. The opponent EOT Path'd his Escort and topdecked a wrath for the win. Pretty sure the kid got a matchloss.
EDIT: I hope I don't get a warning for "avoiding censor" when the censor didn't catch the G-D...
EDIT: I hope I don't get a warning for "avoiding censor" when the censor didn't catch the G-D...
Don't worry, that's not on our auto-censor list. It always bugs the hell out of me, anyway, when basic cable bleeps out things like the "god" in "god damn it" or the "hole" in "*******."
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Oh, it wasn't that he pointed it out. It was more so his attitude while pointing it out. Like he was just waiting for me to slip up and called me out on it the first chance he got.
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The only time I faced an idiot on MWS was in a draft game. We played two games, in the first one he mills me out with a mind funeral (JUST hitting all my bombs, including a banefire, the last card was the fourth land). The second game I was about to lose and topdeck my Banefire, winning that turn. He just said "I win" and left.
I don't play too competitively, yeah
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And that pissed me off a little so I replied, "I don't care about my rating. I don't think I activated my DCI." (which is true, I just play drafts for fun).
Apparently his rating wasn't that high either ~1600. It's really annoying when all people care is their rating and be rude to others, and most importantly destroy the fun of others.
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-"So ANOTHER player with dark sligh, how original"
-"You see? I drafted a sick deck, you just concede now and avoid the shame"
-"EOT? EOT? EOT?"
But I haven't practiced in MWS mostly because I either get totally dominated (normally by very good players and decent people) or once I start to get things going my way, I stumble upon hordes of "PLAYER LOST" types. You know the drill, Blightning their two only remaining threats = PLAYER LOST, path to exile right after announcing a creature enchantment = PLAYER LOST. Cryptic command their spell while bouncing my own Ranger of Eos = PLAYER LOST.
In general, MWS rooms have been one huge Trollywood for me.
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There are four main archetypes of MWS players, most of them unpleasant:
You forgot about the italians and the french in that little Guide. Many a good nights of trash talking have come to ends with these players. Endless chatter about how humility does effect manlands and that I am wrong, or about how I am a noob for this reason or that reason. Needless to say most of it happens when they arn't winning.
Right, enough of this blanket flaming. Infraction issued.
-Memnarch
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I've encountered the Spanish variety much more often, dunno why. I mean, half the games in MWS say "Standard 2/3 espanol", why can't only English-speakers join my games? :3
There was this one guy in particular, back before Alara block, who would usually bring in Fae(with Hammer) and win more often than not. He was a good player, but unfortunately, very obnoxious and cocky. Horrible to trade with because he would always undervalue your stuff and overvalue his own, etc.
Anyway, I had been bringing in Demigod Red, which had a decent matchup vs. Fae anyway. When I beat him in the final, his face got all red and it looked like he was about to pop his top. He started to stuff his things into his bag angrily and wondering aloud how his Fae deck got beaten by some lowly red aggro deck.
The next week, we met in the final again. When I drop him to 8 life in game 3 and then play double Flame Javelin, he looks at his hand, then back at the Javelins, then his hand, then proceeds to yell at me, "You are such a LUCKSACK!" and leaves in a tizzy again.
The third week, I play him yet again in the final, but this time he's playing WU Pickles. Those games were easier for me to play against, but it really didn't prevent him from attempting to rationalize to himself that it was his fault I won and not me playing my deck well. All three of these matches were very close and tightly played by both of us... I just couldn't understand how he could have ignored the fact that our games were that good and close and not even acknowledge my part in it.
After that, and a short hiatus on his part, he came back with a little more respect for the other players and a more generally friendly attitude. I'd like to think I helped that come about.
Several years ago, WotC apparently surveyed Magic players across the globe. They found that people liked turning things sideways, and hated LD. This is the result:
And just a question to the people who have told stories about people flipping tables or throwing the opponent's deck across the room, what happened to these people? Maybe it's just because the store I play FNM at is in a somewhat rough city, but I know several players who would not hesitate to thoroughly beat the living **** out of a guy who flipped a table or threw someone's deck across the room. Throwing or destroying your own property is stupid and childish, but destroying or damaging someone else's property is asking for a beating.
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My little cousin who I got into the game at the age of 10 was at his first FNM, versing some guy around my age (14) who was really ****y. My cousin was running some horrible Giant deck - with about 60 one ofs in it (but I still encouraged him to play well) and my opponent was playing B/W tokens.
I had wrapped up my game and was sitting beside my cousin watching. The conversation went something like.
Cousin: My turn.
Some guy: (points at my cousin, eyeing about three giants on the field.) What's he running?
Opponent: Some ****ty deck - giants I think.... ha! This guy is a complete noob - he sucks! And I am 'bout to trounce him with my horde of tokens.
Cousin: Tap out for, Thundercloud Shaman dealing 4 damage to all of your tokens, killing them all.
Some guy: Good luck with that mate (talking to the opponent).
The look on the guys face was... wait:
Giants Deck $10, B/W Tokens Deck $300, Look On Opponents Face... priceless.
Warning for censor evasion.
-Memnarch
Temporarily retired from the game
Thanks a bunch to Rivenor from Miraculous Recovery Signatures for the awesome sigpic!
Rage quit reason of the moment:
Most of my games with him went kind of like this (remember this was my first week learning):
T1 (me): Island, go
T2: Forest, BoP, go
T3: Island, Azurious Guildmage
He says 'Response'. I ask what it is and he replies 'You suck'.
The sad thing is that I learned to play the game through ridicule over play mistakes. :/
I've seen people get pounded for that. In a T2 tourney a while back (I think it was shortly after Planar Chaos) we had someone new come into the store who was pretty much the biggest ******* you could possibly think up. Belittles anyone not playing a top eight deck, not playing a deck under $300, pretty much everyone has talked of in this thread wrapped up in one, yeah that kind of guy. We shall call him... Idiotbox.
So this was before our shop got a prerelease, and the shop owner had a playset of the Prerelease Oros, the Avengers as the first place prize along with some amount of packs. As you can imagine I wanted those dragons. It comes down to me, Sarah (close friend of mine), Idiotbox, and some little kid who was new. As luck would have it, I faced the kid and Sarah got Idiotbox. And Sarah is not a nice girl when people talk down to her. I won against the kid 2-0 and felt kinda bad, seeing as he made it to the top four only to get ruined by me. I go over to watch Sarah's match and she is destroying Idiotbox with a monowhite agro deck in their second round. She won round one and he is not happy with that. He just keeps getting worse and worse with the arrogance and insults making Sarah angrier and angrier. She plays Akroma, Angel of Wrath and it hits the board. Two turns later Idiotbox is gone, and he loses it. Throws his deck and her deck across the room. Bad idea. When she punched him, he hit the floor hard and went from flaring red to pale in seconds, someone actually thought she killed him. Nope, he was outcold though. So she picks up her deck, trashes his, and it gets to our final round. Everyone calms down once she starts smiling and alughing in our match again. I ended winning by 1 life in the 3rd match, I got my dragons, gave the kid I beat the some odd amount of packs (I think it was six or eight) for getting to the top four in his first tournament, and we ended up dumping idiotbox in the bed of his truck. He never came in for his cards, nor did he ever come back.
Closest thing we have to a large caliber jerk here is a guy that we call "headphones". Whenever he plays he always wears headphones to seemingly tune out his opponent. He'll purposely play against newer players in an attempt to screw them over by changing the rules to his favor (such as saying you can't sac a Qasali Pridemage right after you play him because of summoning sickness). That's pretty much it though. He falls apart whenever he plays anyone with a good understanding of the rules.
I got paired up going into Rd 5 as 2-2. Guy starts by asking me to concede since, "there was no way I could T8". I elected to play. End up losing the first game, then beating him the next two. Offered a handshake and good game, and he says, "no it wasn't, you just played so you could ****block me out of top 8, there's no way you can make it."
Turns out one of my opponents drew where his lost, and I made 8th on breakers, so not only was he a jerk, but he got to eat some delicious crow in the end.
I'm not sure which of these 3 is most awesome...
a) Idiotbox knocked out by a girl in one punch
b) Idiotbox knocked out during a game of MTG
c) The mental picture of everyone returning to play MTG with a guy knocked out on the floor
fixed
BILLY MAYS HERE! HAVING TROUBLE WITH CREATURES? WELL I HAVE THE ANSWER! COUNTERSPELL! JUST ONE USE, AND BAM! PROBLEM SOLVED!
On a more serious note:
Online I actually don't mind people going off on me. I find it amusing and enjoy reinforcing their statements. It just gets them more steamed up and usually results in an absolute meltdown. Quite funny.
WHOA HOLD ON first off wait for it to resolve
2nd the card says I do the action you didn't even ask to touch my cards.
The guy has been cool since but man did he tick me off that night.
some people
Infraction for censor evasion.
-Memnarch
Yeah we got one of those in a shop i some times go to across town. fits your description perfectly, except he has racist tattoos (Swastikas, Totenkopf with SS runes, ect). Got trounced by him once before and he really layed in on thick: "your deck sucks" ect ect.
Next time i came there i was packin' stasis. he got really mad when i told him his goyf is dead because he did not pay its upkeep as i pointed to my tabernacle. he complained that he did not know what the card did and i told him thats not my fault, if he wanted to know he should have asked or read the card. He got quite pissed but was back to his "old self" when he natural ordered into a Progenitus. He got really ****s saying he was going to kill me next turn (i had 9 life). "we will see i said" and i passed the turn. End of his upkeep i played ensnare for free. He GOT LIVID!! and scooped. "good game" i said as i reached down my shirt revealing a star of david necklace. LOLOL
I was really glad to bead him as he did not even know how to work his deck right. When i played stasis he had top+counterbalance out, he triggerd the counterbalance revealing a land, "hold on" he said as he activated his top and then showed me a goyf. "your stasis is countered" he said with a smug look and tone of voice. it took 5 people to convince him that he messed up.
J
1. It was my first magic tournament. I had never played outsiude of casually with my friends. So I hitch a ride with them to the card shop. I think the term "vintage" sounded cool, so I signed up. I played the local "pro" (He has since plummeted in skill...) and he turn 1 comboed me both games. He acted like a real jerk both games. I didnt win a single game that night.
2. The very next week was Standard. (This was Ravnica block, 9th, Coldsnap, and Time Spiral Set Standard...No Planar Chaos yet) I had to face the same guy round 1. He was playing Zoo. He beat me 2-0. Both games, his shock lands knocked him to 10. He bragged about this so much. "My lands did more damage in this game than your decks have done in the last two weeks".
3. Against my buddy and best friend, Duffy. This happened a few weeks ago. It was an extended tournament. He was running BU mill with Extirpates. I was running Hypergenesis. We faced each other round 1 and he won 2-1. We later faced each other in the finals and after I win 2-0, he lost his temper a bit, telling me how Hypergenesis requires no skill. Meh...It's true, but hey, I won my very first tournament that night.
4. At PTQ Birmingham, Alabama earlier this year...I was playing in round 2 of it at 1-0. I get faced up against Astral Slide(Which a beat round 1). I was piloting Project X-Tended(Project X, but made for Extended). I have a Saffi Eriksdotter in my grave, 7 mana open, a crypt champion in my hand, as well as a bitter ordeal. I tap 4 for crypt. He says "hold on" and thinks for a good 5 minutes. I almost call a judge for him stalling. He finally paths it, saying casually "Go get your creature from Crypt's ability." I do so, and then reach for my library to get a land off of Path. He stops me, saying that since I resolved Crypt Champion's ability, I skipped Path's ability. I just put this over as a douche move. Later, I asked the Head Judge about it. He said that if he were called over and the scenario happened as I said it, my opponent would have been DQ'd for coercing the gamestate.
5. Last week at my local FNM. We play decently casually. We forgive "small" mistakes. Well, I win in the 3rd round against a guy that didn't know how to play very much 2-1. Afterwards, I notice a wayward Siege-Gang Commander poking out from under my playmat. Evidentally sometime during game 1, it got slid under my playmat on accident. I say something about it casually. My buddy DUffy also says something jokingly long the lines of "ooooo!! Gameloss! hahahaha". He was OBVIOUSLY joking. And this little explitive calls me on it. He ends up blackmailing me "Play me in one more game to determine the winner of the match or I'll call you for having an illegal deck." I didn't know the exact penalty for having a 59-card deck, but I assumed it was game-loss. So I would have lost the match, so I oblige and go on to lose. I don't even care about the loss. The fact that he blackmailed me into playing another game just so he wouldn't be in dead-last place is what pissed me off. I've told every other player about what he did, so he has a target on his back for the upcoming 2010 prerelease. Everyone has agreed to call a judge on EVERY little mistake he does. Who has 2 thumbs and is judging this Saturday? *Points to myself* THIS GUY!
6. I was at PTQ Nashville a few months ago. I, and all the players from the store we go to, were sitting in the back of the play-area at TNL Games, waiting for a few matches to end. All of a sudden we hear "Mother ****ing ********! God damn it, *******!" We turn around and like, 3 judges were scolding the ~17 year old kid for his outburst. Evidentally, it was a G/W token mirror. Both had lethal on the board + a Dauntless Escort. The opponent EOT Path'd his Escort and topdecked a wrath for the win. Pretty sure the kid got a matchloss.
EDIT: I hope I don't get a warning for "avoiding censor" when the censor didn't catch the G-D...