This site never has the volume of people to make the trades I want, I might as well give up on it. So, is there an online store that trades anything for anything directly?
It really depends on what you have to offer and what you need. If all you have is a bunch of bulk rares, you're basically out of luck. If you're looking for some obscure cards, that's really tough to find the right guy.
It really depends on what you have to offer and what you need. If all you have is a bunch of bulk rares, you're basically out of luck. If you're looking for some obscure cards, that's really tough to find the right guy.
What you're proposing is not any different than an actual real-life trade scenario, and I already said I'm looking for a store that is beyond that. So not that it matters to the store that I'm looking for, but I have decent rares typically ranging from $10-$40 per card and I'm looking to trade them for the less expensive dual lands, maybe things like force of will or noble hierarch. Chances are if you can't answer this question in one post with one link, you never remotely had what I'm looking for.
I doubt you are going to find exactly what you are looking for as stores are not interested in trades. They can't make money on even trades so it is something less likely to exist.
However, nearly every big store has a Buylist which you can use to get cash or store credit. Store credit is often higher. You can then use this to purchase cards from their site. It effectively acts as a trading system of sorts. For example, you can "trade in" 4 Chandra, Torch of Defiance to CardKingdom for $26 a piece in cash or $32.50 in store credit. You can then use that to buy Force of Will at $75 or $85 apiece or Noble Hierarch at $55 or $60 apiece. This effectively means you are trading in 4 Chandras for 2 Hierarchs (for example).
If a buylist doesn't work for you, then you are probably out of luck as I am not aware of anything better than an actual store is going to offer.
The problem is one can easily get force of will for around $50, so it's a bit of a waste.
Right. That is kind of the point. Again, stores exist to make money. You are not going to find a store that is going to trade your cards for equal value and they are especially not going to determine that value based on TCGPlayer, eBay, or any other platform's prices. They are going to base it off their own prices and they are going to value your "trades" at a lower value than theirs.
You just aren't going to find a store to do what you want. You need to find actual people. You can try the numerous Facebook groups or MOTL if this site doesn't have enough traffic for you. Or, you can just sell your cards on TCGPlayer or Deckbox or eBay, deal with the fees, and then buy what you want.
You seem to imply that we're not understanding your question, yet you keep getting very similar answers. I'm not sure how else to explain it. A "platform" at the size and volume and doing the kind of thing that you desire isn't going to fly under the radar of too many MtG people for any length of time, ergo, it would've been mentioned here already.
Alright, maybe it requires some clearing up: instead of store, think "platform," and instead of anything, think "an overwhelming volume of traders."
Then you seem to be looking for PucaTrade (kind of) or CardSphere (kind of).
The problem with a direct person-to-person trading platform is that a) someone needs to pay to host it which means they need to make money off of it and b) it is hard to find that person that wants exactly what you have and also has exactly what you want. It is why PucaTrade is (was?) such a success: you didn't need to trade for specific cards. You basically traded your cards into a system and then got whatever cards you wanted later. Cardsphere seems a little better in my opinion but the volume seems fairly low as of right now.
That's it. You have the options of Buylisting cards, selling your cards on the various platforms suggested, doing direct trading via Facebook or MOTL, or doing trading via a middleman with PucaTrade or Cardsphere.
All of these have their flaws. All of these have their benefits. It would appear that none of these check all the boxes you are looking for in a trading platform and I would wager that nothing ever will.
At some point you either need to "settle" for the best of the current options or create your own. Obviously the latter is a ton of work so if that isn't feasible, the answer you are going to get for this question is "no, nothing like that exists".
The problem is one can easily get force of will for around $50, so it's a bit of a waste.
So instead of selling 3x Chandra to CardKingdom for $97.50 store credit and buying a $75 Force from them, sell 2x Chandra to CardKingdom for $52 cash, and go buy your FoW on eBay for $50.
You seem to imply that we're not understanding your question, yet you keep getting very similar answers. I'm not sure how else to explain it. A "platform" at the size and volume and doing the kind of thing that you desire isn't going to fly under the radar of too many MtG people for any length of time, ergo, it would've been mentioned here already.
That's definitely 100% for sure not the same question. That's clearly about selling cardsquickly, this is about strictly trading, and in there I did get an answer where prices are lower (well, use to be when it was actually regulated) via the facebook groups. Literally not one single store/platform link has been posted except, not even the most popular stores, so your presumption that it would have been mentioned already has already been proven wrong.
someone needs to pay to host it which means they need to make money off of it
The business hosting it could, sure, but definitely not the traders. The people who use it are completely independent of those who own the platform, the owners could make money in any number of ways through advertising, subscriptions, deck building features, marketing data, etc, there's more sophisticated sites already in existence, it's simply a matter of if anyone on this particular website makes the connection to bring it up.
Initially you didn't ask the same question, but the discussion definitely went in that direction due to your aversion at any sort of markup from the seller (with you as the buyer/trader) as indicated in post #10 in that thread.
In this thread, you are, again, trying to avoid any sort of markup (reasonable or otherwise) on cards while still retaining the benefits that that markup grants you. I don't fault you for it though. The reality of your search isn't quite so black and white however, but I won't bother echoing anything that has already been pointed out. You turned them all down anyways.
I never mentioned anything about linking to any stores themselves, only that which has been mentioned. Stores/platforms mentioned here is the list from this thread:
CardKingdom
TCGPlayer
eBay
Facebook
MOTL
Deckbox
PucaTrade
CardSphere
Here is the list from that thread:
eBay
TCGPlayer
Facebook
Troll & Toad
Channel Fireball
Starcity Games
Two different questions, as you put it, resulted in, IMHO, not too dissimilar lists. More to the point, these stores are so well known that any MtG collector of reasonable caliber will know them.
It appears that nothing will satisfy your requirement. To that end, I can only suggest you create your own trading site that meets everything you desire...
The business hosting it could, sure, but definitely not the traders. The people who use it are completely independent of those who own the platform, the owners could make money in any number of ways through advertising, subscriptions, deck building features, marketing data, etc, there's more sophisticated sites already in existence, it's simply a matter of if anyone on this particular website makes the connection to bring it up.
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What you're proposing is not any different than an actual real-life trade scenario, and I already said I'm looking for a store that is beyond that. So not that it matters to the store that I'm looking for, but I have decent rares typically ranging from $10-$40 per card and I'm looking to trade them for the less expensive dual lands, maybe things like force of will or noble hierarch. Chances are if you can't answer this question in one post with one link, you never remotely had what I'm looking for.
However, nearly every big store has a Buylist which you can use to get cash or store credit. Store credit is often higher. You can then use this to purchase cards from their site. It effectively acts as a trading system of sorts. For example, you can "trade in" 4 Chandra, Torch of Defiance to CardKingdom for $26 a piece in cash or $32.50 in store credit. You can then use that to buy Force of Will at $75 or $85 apiece or Noble Hierarch at $55 or $60 apiece. This effectively means you are trading in 4 Chandras for 2 Hierarchs (for example).
If a buylist doesn't work for you, then you are probably out of luck as I am not aware of anything better than an actual store is going to offer.
You just aren't going to find a store to do what you want. You need to find actual people. You can try the numerous Facebook groups or MOTL if this site doesn't have enough traffic for you. Or, you can just sell your cards on TCGPlayer or Deckbox or eBay, deal with the fees, and then buy what you want.
You seem to imply that we're not understanding your question, yet you keep getting very similar answers. I'm not sure how else to explain it. A "platform" at the size and volume and doing the kind of thing that you desire isn't going to fly under the radar of too many MtG people for any length of time, ergo, it would've been mentioned here already.
The problem with a direct person-to-person trading platform is that a) someone needs to pay to host it which means they need to make money off of it and b) it is hard to find that person that wants exactly what you have and also has exactly what you want. It is why PucaTrade is (was?) such a success: you didn't need to trade for specific cards. You basically traded your cards into a system and then got whatever cards you wanted later. Cardsphere seems a little better in my opinion but the volume seems fairly low as of right now.
That's it. You have the options of Buylisting cards, selling your cards on the various platforms suggested, doing direct trading via Facebook or MOTL, or doing trading via a middleman with PucaTrade or Cardsphere.
All of these have their flaws. All of these have their benefits. It would appear that none of these check all the boxes you are looking for in a trading platform and I would wager that nothing ever will.
At some point you either need to "settle" for the best of the current options or create your own. Obviously the latter is a ton of work so if that isn't feasible, the answer you are going to get for this question is "no, nothing like that exists".
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That's definitely 100% for sure not the same question. That's clearly about selling cardsquickly, this is about strictly trading, and in there I did get an answer where prices are lower (well, use to be when it was actually regulated) via the facebook groups. Literally not one single store/platform link has been posted except, not even the most popular stores, so your presumption that it would have been mentioned already has already been proven wrong.
The business hosting it could, sure, but definitely not the traders. The people who use it are completely independent of those who own the platform, the owners could make money in any number of ways through advertising, subscriptions, deck building features, marketing data, etc, there's more sophisticated sites already in existence, it's simply a matter of if anyone on this particular website makes the connection to bring it up.
In this thread, you are, again, trying to avoid any sort of markup (reasonable or otherwise) on cards while still retaining the benefits that that markup grants you. I don't fault you for it though. The reality of your search isn't quite so black and white however, but I won't bother echoing anything that has already been pointed out. You turned them all down anyways.
I never mentioned anything about linking to any stores themselves, only that which has been mentioned. Stores/platforms mentioned here is the list from this thread:
CardKingdom
TCGPlayer
eBay
Facebook
MOTL
Deckbox
PucaTrade
CardSphere
Here is the list from that thread:
eBay
TCGPlayer
Facebook
Troll & Toad
Channel Fireball
Starcity Games
Two different questions, as you put it, resulted in, IMHO, not too dissimilar lists. More to the point, these stores are so well known that any MtG collector of reasonable caliber will know them.
It appears that nothing will satisfy your requirement. To that end, I can only suggest you create your own trading site that meets everything you desire...