I'm very excited for Unstable, but I'm silently dreading the 'clever' people who try to sneak in a bunch of Cheatyfaces "because it's an 'Un' set". Cheatyface is hilarious when you first encounter it, or when someone pulls off some hilarious trick like revealing that, beneath the printed image, all of his/her proxies are actually Cheatyface. The first time. Then it gets old fast.
So, I'm going to the pre-release with an altered emblem card that says
"As long as an opponent controls a permanent named Cheatyface, you may reveal this card from your pocket and gain a copy of this emblem.
You may ask an opponent to remove from play all permanents he or she controls named Cheatyface. If that opponent does not do so, you may punch him or her directly in the face. Hard. (You may do this at any time.)"
Reminder text taken from Sphinx of Jwar Isle
It will be an actual magic card that has been altered, so that I can argue the official rules will allow it. I will then bog down the game indefinitely with a rules argument until they remove their cheatyfaces or allow me to punch them a bunch of times, whichever comes first.
thats cool, but just because it says you can sneak it in and it'll blend more easily in with the rest of the un cards, you'd still be told no at any event because its not a card from that set. it'd be like sneaking in a lightning bolt to a zendikar draft
I wonder if they'll have Exclamation Elemental! to compliment Question Elemental?
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
1) There will be a card with one letter in the card name;
2) There will be Beebles.
3) There will be blue cards with "verbal" components.
Also from this article, to end all the Cheatyface discussion:
One of the most popular cards from Unhinged was Cheatyface, a card you can sneak into play for free as long as you're not caught. (By the way, for those that care if they're playing this card as it's technically supposed to be played, this ability only works when you legally draw it to your hand.)
So since you can't legally draw Cheatyface into your hand in Unstable limited, players can't legally sneak it into play.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Considering this is the series that brought us Booster Tutor,
I wouldn't completely rule that out this early on.
Sure, but using a legal effect (assuming there is any such effect in Unstable) to pull in a card from outside of the game makes it legal to play, which is fine and annoys nobody.
I thought of something really cool over the weekend and was super sad when I thought about it. How wonderful would it have been if they printed a great common for each colour, like lightning bolt or like swords to plowshares but with unhinged style art. That way modern/legacy players can decide to use these funny versions of the cards in their constructed decks. Giving the set a constructed value, similar to how full art lands give sets some value. What does other people think? Would you have cared about pulling a funny art style version of lightning bolt?
I think that I would have to say that I wouldn't honestly care either way. Thankfully, that is not going to be the case because Maro has stated that "when (not if) he gets the chance to make a third Un- set, he would want to use all the available space for silver bordered cards that he can get." He is making this product with people like me in mind who will buy it in bulk because it is what it is, and not because "there's some chase card/s in it." I fully plan to save until Christmas and then go on a mad buying spree to buy a Singleton foil set for my UNEDH deck, and thereafter stockpile boxes if I can for my Booster Tutor and Stocking Tiger (and whatever possible booster variant we get in Unstable.)
That said, please let this be the last post about wish fulfillment. This set is 99% silver bordered, only 6 black bordered cards out of 216-ish cards. There will be no chase cards (save lands and the foil tokens.) There never was going to be. And pretending "what if" is not rumor, it's not even speculation since we know the set parameters. There's not going to be "masterpieces" to help sell the set.
And if you argue "well then who will buy it?" Me. I will buy all of it to make it a successful print run if I have to. I want to see another one of these in a few years time.
Edit: I realized that I didn't add anything to the discussion. So here's a tidbit. While I was at work with my buddy Ken, after Unstable had been spoiled and Maro let slip that Squirrels were going to be the tribal focus this set, I speculated that Cats or Kittens (probably Kittens, in the vein that Assfolk are Donkeys, and chickens are Chickens.) During Emoticon day (week?) Someone asked Maro on Blogatog to express the next few sets in Emotes. The others were pretty obvious, but Maro used the squirrel emote, a cat emote and a gear emote to describe Unstable. So, basically, I called it. Cats/Kittens will be Squirrels backup singers.
I am ridiculously excited for this set to be released! I've only been playing for about 7 months and after I saw my first card from Unhinged I just thought they were hilarious and wanted to embrace the "collector's" side of the game. I just finished collecting all the Unhinged and Unglued cards. Just saving my pennies to get the lands for each set now and have them all in a binder. I will put Unstable in its own binder, since it is a larger collection. I've never seen anyone play the cards but would love to get some extra fun at FNM with all of us playing a few cards from either/both sets. They would not have made any sense to me when I first started, but now all the jokes make sense to me and a fun way to honor the game!
I am ridiculously excited for this set to be released! I've only been playing for about 7 months and after I saw my first card from Unhinged I just thought they were hilarious and wanted to embrace the "collector's" side of the game. I just finished collecting all the Unhinged and Unglued cards. Just saving my pennies to get the lands for each set now and have them all in a binder. I will put Unstable in its own binder, since it is a larger collection. I've never seen anyone play the cards but would love to get some extra fun at FNM with all of us playing a few cards from either/both sets. They would not have made any sense to me when I first started, but now all the jokes make sense to me and a fun way to honor the game!
At present I have dismantled the deck and put it back into it's respective binders, but I will gladly rebuild it anytime. It never fails to impress people, and the only ones it doesn't are the ones looking to shuffle up their turn 4, infinite combo, hyper-competitive mono-colored decks and piss on everyone's fun.
That said, I've gotten a handle on all but one of the holiday promos and run a majority of them in my UNEDH. Funniest thing is getting an opponent with my Gifts Given. And while hardeer to pull off because of the double cost (I have very strict rules for my UNEDH - No black border except for basic lands) I would like to one day Naughty//Nice a card from my deck into someone's hand. Enter the Dungeon to my black/X opponent, Yet Another Aether Vortex to a red player. Fun stuff. I look forward to being able to cycle out less funny/usable cards for some of the fun stuff in Unstable (already going to try to get my hands on the HASCON promo set, hope it's not a billion dollars!)
And for clarification, yes, I know that ONLY the sword is in Unstable. Part of why I want to get my hands on the set if possible.
Now for my own (reasonable) wish fulfillment. I would love to see a card in the vein of Who//What//When//Where//Why but instead as a flip/transform/morph/fuse/aftermath amalgam that looks exactly as complex and fun as it sounds to me. Mostly I just can't wait to see what jokes are in the set with a cohesive design and how that cohesive design impacts the set's creative design.
And I'm looking forward to another hidden message. (Google it)
And I'm looking forward to another hidden message. (Google it)
Thanks for letting me know about this. I had no idea and just pulled them out to read each list. So cleverly done! I do hope they will do another one too!
If you want another tidbit, there are a few cards that have alternate foil versions (just minor things, a few cards have things they missed while printing the foil such as AWOL missing the top of the mountain in the foil printing) and a few have unique watermarks only really visible in the foil (Shoe Tree had a shoe watermark in the foil, Artist Consultation has a paintbrush watermark)
And I trust that you also own the "secret card" Super Secret Tech? Part of why I foiled out (most of) my collection.
Edit: Oh and if there is any confusion on card interactions, Maro has written an awesome article dubbed the FAQTIWDAWCC that serves as a release document. It also erratas Spatula of the Ages to put any SILVER BORDERED permanent onto the battlefield.
If you want another tidbit, there are a few cards that have alternate foil versions (just minor things, a few cards have things they missed while printing the foil such as AWOL missing the top of the mountain in the foil printing) and a few have unique watermarks only really visible in the foil (Shoe Tree had a shoe watermark in the foil, Artist Consultation has a paintbrush watermark)
And I trust that you also own the "secret card" Super Secret Tech? Part of why I foiled out (most of) my collection.
Edit: Oh and if there is any confusion on card interactions, Maro has written an awesome article dubbed the FAQTIWDAWCC that serves as a release document. It also erratas Spatula of the Ages to put any SILVER BORDERED permanent onto the battlefield.
What is the "secret card" Super Secret Tech? I have a foil one that cost a pretty penny for a card I won't play, but it is pretty! Or is there yet another cool version of it? No stores around here had it, so ordered it via online.
If you want another tidbit, there are a few cards that have alternate foil versions (just minor things, a few cards have things they missed while printing the foil such as AWOL missing the top of the mountain in the foil printing) and a few have unique watermarks only really visible in the foil (Shoe Tree had a shoe watermark in the foil, Artist Consultation has a paintbrush watermark)
And I trust that you also own the "secret card" Super Secret Tech? Part of why I foiled out (most of) my collection.
Edit: Oh and if there is any confusion on card interactions, Maro has written an awesome article dubbed the FAQTIWDAWCC that serves as a release document. It also erratas Spatula of the Ages to put any SILVER BORDERED permanent onto the battlefield.
What is the "secret card" Super Secret Tech? I have a foil one that cost a pretty penny for a card I won't play, but it is pretty! Or is there yet another cool version of it? No stores around here had it, so ordered it via online.
Nope that's the one. Just the one foiled printing of it. But it's number 141/140, so it's "secret." And I make full use of it in my mostly foiled UNEDH. Funniest thing when I pull it out because EDH decks are known for being "pimped out" so alot of things get cost reduction and alot of things get the anthem boost; ya know, since it applies to ALL premium (foiled) spells/creatures.
As long as their is not another crazy rare super secret tech..... Getting a card that was ONLY printed on the foil rare sheet was a pain for my collection.
Now for fun cool things I would like to see.
0
Jace the wallet slayer
Jaces starting loyalty is = to the Star city game retail value Jace the wallet slayer in dollars.
+2X Give each opponent X US Dollars
0 Give your oppoent $1 US, Draw 3 cards
-X Throw X Quarters on to the battle field each card they land on is exiled
-100 Pay each opponent $100 US you win the game.
Magic the Gathering deck box
60
Legendary artifact
Exile all permants you control, your hand, your graveyard and your library. Place a new MTG deck in place of your libary its now your libary, your life becomes 20, Draw 7 cards, Take 1 turn for each turn that has passed this game.
Let me try soemthing different.
(Secretly glad that we have a real design team for Unstable and not just fan submissions to beat me into submission...)
Edit: As a side note, those that love the tongue in cheek humor that is Unhinged, look for a board game called Millennium Blades by Level 99 games. It has alot of tongue in cheek humor and even has a JTMS parody called: Chase the Price Sculptor. Additionally, my Avatar is a cropped image from an upcoming promo expansion for the game that has a MtG nod set complete with Chaos Orb nod (Avatar).
I just want there to be sufficient silver border legendaries to make EDH-unhinged a thing.
A fun set of Unsung Heroes and Heroines (silver bordered Planeswalkers) would be fun too! Hopefully someone is listening!
I have absolutley no doubt that there will be a set of silver bordered planeswalkers. Possibly even a common planeswalker, just to flip the mythic only paradigm on its head.
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maro dropped this tidbit in today Ixalan's article: "and a desire to move Unstable away from Kaladesh, as both had a steampunk vibe—although taken in very different directions"
maro dropped this tidbit in today Ixalan's article: "and a desire to move Unstable away from Kaladesh, as both had a steampunk vibe—although taken in very different directions"
calling CONTRAPTIONS!
Can you "call" something that has already been officially announced and confirmed for a while now?
I just hope that once the last unset is released and Oracle is updated for the rest of the silver-bordered cards, some of the more useful cards are not banned for commander - especially the cards that work with teamwork like Checks and Balances, Get a Life, Organ Harvest, and Team Spirit.
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Some news about Unstable:
1) There will be a card with one letter in the card name;
2) There will be Beebles.
3) There will be blue cards with "verbal" components.
thats cool, but just because it says you can sneak it in and it'll blend more easily in with the rest of the un cards, you'd still be told no at any event because its not a card from that set. it'd be like sneaking in a lightning bolt to a zendikar draft
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
OH ***** BEEBLES!
So since you can't legally draw Cheatyface into your hand in Unstable limited, players can't legally sneak it into play.
Considering this is the series that brought us Booster Tutor,
I wouldn't completely rule that out this early on.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I think that I would have to say that I wouldn't honestly care either way. Thankfully, that is not going to be the case because Maro has stated that "when (not if) he gets the chance to make a third Un- set, he would want to use all the available space for silver bordered cards that he can get." He is making this product with people like me in mind who will buy it in bulk because it is what it is, and not because "there's some chase card/s in it." I fully plan to save until Christmas and then go on a mad buying spree to buy a Singleton foil set for my UNEDH deck, and thereafter stockpile boxes if I can for my Booster Tutor and Stocking Tiger (and whatever possible booster variant we get in Unstable.)
That said, please let this be the last post about wish fulfillment. This set is 99% silver bordered, only 6 black bordered cards out of 216-ish cards. There will be no chase cards (save lands and the foil tokens.) There never was going to be. And pretending "what if" is not rumor, it's not even speculation since we know the set parameters. There's not going to be "masterpieces" to help sell the set.
And if you argue "well then who will buy it?" Me. I will buy all of it to make it a successful print run if I have to. I want to see another one of these in a few years time.
Edit: I realized that I didn't add anything to the discussion. So here's a tidbit. While I was at work with my buddy Ken, after Unstable had been spoiled and Maro let slip that Squirrels were going to be the tribal focus this set, I speculated that Cats or Kittens (probably Kittens, in the vein that Assfolk are Donkeys, and chickens are Chickens.) During Emoticon day (week?) Someone asked Maro on Blogatog to express the next few sets in Emotes. The others were pretty obvious, but Maro used the squirrel emote, a cat emote and a gear emote to describe Unstable. So, basically, I called it. Cats/Kittens will be Squirrels backup singers.
At present I have dismantled the deck and put it back into it's respective binders, but I will gladly rebuild it anytime. It never fails to impress people, and the only ones it doesn't are the ones looking to shuffle up their turn 4, infinite combo, hyper-competitive mono-colored decks and piss on everyone's fun.
That said, I've gotten a handle on all but one of the holiday promos and run a majority of them in my UNEDH. Funniest thing is getting an opponent with my Gifts Given. And while hardeer to pull off because of the double cost (I have very strict rules for my UNEDH - No black border except for basic lands) I would like to one day Naughty//Nice a card from my deck into someone's hand. Enter the Dungeon to my black/X opponent, Yet Another Aether Vortex to a red player. Fun stuff. I look forward to being able to cycle out less funny/usable cards for some of the fun stuff in Unstable (already going to try to get my hands on the HASCON promo set, hope it's not a billion dollars!)
And for clarification, yes, I know that ONLY the sword is in Unstable. Part of why I want to get my hands on the set if possible.
Now for my own (reasonable) wish fulfillment. I would love to see a card in the vein of Who//What//When//Where//Why but instead as a flip/transform/morph/fuse/aftermath amalgam that looks exactly as complex and fun as it sounds to me. Mostly I just can't wait to see what jokes are in the set with a cohesive design and how that cohesive design impacts the set's creative design.
And I'm looking forward to another hidden message. (Google it)
Thanks for letting me know about this. I had no idea and just pulled them out to read each list. So cleverly done! I do hope they will do another one too!
And I trust that you also own the "secret card" Super Secret Tech? Part of why I foiled out (most of) my collection.
Edit: Oh and if there is any confusion on card interactions, Maro has written an awesome article dubbed the FAQTIWDAWCC that serves as a release document. It also erratas Spatula of the Ages to put any SILVER BORDERED permanent onto the battlefield.
What is the "secret card" Super Secret Tech? I have a foil one that cost a pretty penny for a card I won't play, but it is pretty! Or is there yet another cool version of it? No stores around here had it, so ordered it via online.
Nope that's the one. Just the one foiled printing of it. But it's number 141/140, so it's "secret." And I make full use of it in my mostly foiled UNEDH. Funniest thing when I pull it out because EDH decks are known for being "pimped out" so alot of things get cost reduction and alot of things get the anthem boost; ya know, since it applies to ALL premium (foiled) spells/creatures.
A fun set of Unsung Heroes and Heroines (silver bordered Planeswalkers) would be fun too! Hopefully someone is listening!
Now for fun cool things I would like to see.
0
Jace the wallet slayer
Jaces starting loyalty is = to the Star city game retail value Jace the wallet slayer in dollars.
+2X Give each opponent X US Dollars
0 Give your oppoent $1 US, Draw 3 cards
-X Throw X Quarters on to the battle field each card they land on is exiled
-100 Pay each opponent $100 US you win the game.
Magic the Gathering deck box
60
Legendary artifact
Exile all permants you control, your hand, your graveyard and your library. Place a new MTG deck in place of your libary its now your libary, your life becomes 20, Draw 7 cards, Take 1 turn for each turn that has passed this game.
Let me try soemthing different.
Edit: As a side note, those that love the tongue in cheek humor that is Unhinged, look for a board game called Millennium Blades by Level 99 games. It has alot of tongue in cheek humor and even has a JTMS parody called: Chase the Price Sculptor. Additionally, my Avatar is a cropped image from an upcoming promo expansion for the game that has a MtG nod set complete with Chaos Orb nod (Avatar).
I have absolutley no doubt that there will be a set of silver bordered planeswalkers. Possibly even a common planeswalker, just to flip the mythic only paradigm on its head.
BGU [Primer] Sidisi, Brood Tyrant BGU | BG [Primer] Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest BG | G [Primer] Polukranos, World Eater G
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I love this idea!
calling CONTRAPTIONS!
Can you "call" something that has already been officially announced and confirmed for a while now?
BGU [Primer] Sidisi, Brood Tyrant BGU | BG [Primer] Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest BG | G [Primer] Polukranos, World Eater G
My YouTube Channel:
The Commander Tavern - a channel I just started where I'll post deck techs and gameplays. Please support by checking it out. Maybe you'll like its content and subscribe! Thanks!