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But we still need a 1-drop for Dino decks. Either a 1-drop creature or some sort of support, like "Dinosaurs enter the battlefield with an additional +1/+1 counter" or something.
Yeah, just like Mosa-, Ichthyo- and Elasmosaurs (big marine reptiles) weren't dinosaurs. Pterosaurs also never had feathers as far as we can tell (some to most dinosaurs did though). But it would probably be too problematic to make that distinction (both marine as well as flying reptiles would better be kept typed as "lizard") both from a flavor as well as from a mechanical standpoint. It's a fantasy version of dinosaurs, I think we can give them a bit leeway on this.
I like this small flyer. Flying plus menace is pretty difficult to block most of the time. I'm liking this set more and more.
Here’s the problem. Flying prehistoric creatures like pterodactyls aren’t technically Dinosaurs. The majority of people though don’t know that and believe, in fact, that they are Dinosaurs.
So we had two choices:
#1) Make the flying creatures in the Dinosaur faction not Dinosaurs. It educates players about actual science, but causes tribal issues for the Dinosaurs and upsets a large chunk of players.
#2) Make the flying creatures Dinosaurs. It helps the Dinosaur deck play better and matches expectation of the majority of players but upsets those that know it’s technically inaccurate.
In the end, we chose to go with the latter as it would make more players happy and aided gameplay.
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Yes, yes, we already know this, you're not special.
Jeez man, chill, just having some fun.
Why are people on this forum so rude for no reason whatsoever?
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What if, and stay with me here, the pterodactyls in that made up magic land are actually dinosaurs. There's nothing about that world that requires everything be the same as Earth they are free to change things and make up new creatures as they want.
If you are in the camp of being upset over a pterosaur being called a dinosaur, take comfort in the fact that you get to be 'that guy' at your LGS who gets constantly remind people that its not actually a dinosaur.
Regisaur alpha is by far the best constructed card spoiled so far. 8 power for 5 mana, 3 haste, 2 bodies and permanent haste for your team.
7* power and yes, I don't disagree the card is quite good (not sure I would call it 'the best' though). However, I just have a bias towards lower to the ground strategies, I think they are inherently better than ramp (why do you think eternal formats have much more of those than actual factual ramp decks?). Ramp is a deck that ALWAYS needs to hit the cards it needs in a particular order, while low-curve decks just need lands and spells, most of the time.
If you are in the camp of being upset over a pterosaur being called a dinosaur, take comfort in the fact that you get to be 'that guy' at your LGS who gets constantly remind people that its not actually a dinosaur.
I'm not upset, nor am I surprised. But I am a teeny tiny bit disappointed. It's great for gameplay reasons, Ixalan being a tribal-focused set. But this also means that the creature types are locked in stone, and we'll never get a prehistoric world of dinosaurs, pterosaurs, synapsids, mosasaurs, what have you.
They just fixed a bunch of creature types on this set, what makes you think in the future they will not call pterosaurs... pterousaurs? I would agree it is an unlikely change, but I don't see why you think it is 'locked in stone'. They fixed some hounds for jackals, made the big creature type update... creature typing is certainly prone to change.
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Having 100% scientifically accurate labels would piss people off as bay as the relatively accurate lore for kamigawa. Tarkir is how. Kamigawa should have been for the masses to like it.
I mean considering with the way language works someone could refer to their really old computer as "this old dinosaur" and not be wrong because figurative language is a thing, I think, while its technically incorrect, it's way aside from the point.
Pretty sure pterodactyls weren't dinosaurs. Might be wrong though.
Yeah, just like Mosa-, Ichthyo- and Elasmosaurs (big marine reptiles) weren't dinosaurs. Pterosaurs also never had feathers as far as we can tell (some to most dinosaurs did though). But it would probably be too problematic to make that distinction (both marine as well as flying reptiles would better be kept typed as "lizard") both from a flavor as well as from a mechanical standpoint. It's a fantasy version of dinosaurs, I think we can give them a bit leeway on this.
Pterosaurs were covered in furry, feather-like structures called pycnofibers (everywhere but their wings; like the fur bodies with leathery wings on bats). Pycnofibers were used strictly for thermal control like mammalian fur, but probably didn't aid in flight, and they were most likely warm-blooded.
So, having pterosaurs being covered in fur-like feathers is actually quite accurate. Although the wings would be bare. But as you pointed out, this is a fantasy version. And they really are much closer relatives to dinosaurs than basically all other reptiles than crocodilians, so it is actually more accurate to call them dinos than, say, lizards.
All that being said this card seems like a nice and efficient little beastie! I like it.
Aside from flavor reasons, why does this have flying and menace? Why not just make it unblockable?
I feel as though Unblockable is blue's evasion keyword, while here we have both Red and White evasion keywords. Also, flying and menace doesn't mean it's necessarily unblockable, it just means that it often will be harder to block.
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The topic title gives me an image of a dactyl wearing one of those fuzzy hats and doing the cossack dance.
What manner of drafting archetype does this suggest? Raging Swordtooth obviously pushes for Enrage, while Belligerent Brontodon encourages playing high-toughness creatures. I guess this pushes for RW's usual cheap, speedy aggro archetype, to counterbalance the more expensive Dinos? I would think something like Akroan Hoplite or Spitemare would have worked better. Even a Dinosaur version of Skyknight Legionnaire. I was kinda hoping the RW Dinosaur Uncommon was going to have Enrage to mirror how the UR Pirate Uncommon has Raid.
Oh well, a flying menace was bound to happen sooner or later. Not bad for a RW Wind Drake.
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Aside from flavor reasons, why does this have flying and menace? Why not just make it unblockable?
I feel as though Unblockable is blue's evasion keyword, while here we have both Red and White evasion keywords. Also, flying and menace doesn't mean it's necessarily unblockable, it just means that it often will be harder to block.
I realize that menace + flying doesn't equal unblockable, thanks. How often will this be blocked in Standard though? Are there that many flyers around?
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No idea on the name, but it's a 2/2 Flying Menace dinosaur for RW.
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It's like a dinosaur Stormchaser Mage.
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Pretty sure pterodactyls weren't dinosaurs. Might be wrong though.
EDIT: boy, it is nice to be a gangsta - http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-a-pterosaur-is-not-a-dinosaur-87082921/
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Would probably rather it had Vigilance instead though, a flying Cerodon Yearling would be really nice.
But we still need a 1-drop for Dino decks. Either a 1-drop creature or some sort of support, like "Dinosaurs enter the battlefield with an additional +1/+1 counter" or something.
Yeah, just like Mosa-, Ichthyo- and Elasmosaurs (big marine reptiles) weren't dinosaurs. Pterosaurs also never had feathers as far as we can tell (some to most dinosaurs did though). But it would probably be too problematic to make that distinction (both marine as well as flying reptiles would better be kept typed as "lizard") both from a flavor as well as from a mechanical standpoint. It's a fantasy version of dinosaurs, I think we can give them a bit leeway on this.
I like this small flyer. Flying plus menace is pretty difficult to block most of the time. I'm liking this set more and more.
Still few things beat "shadow" or "horsemanship"...
Yes, yes, we already know this, you're not special.
Wizards knew this too, but they consciously chose to make them dinosaurs anyway because they knew that most people already think they're dinosaurs.
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this one is a flyer thats so hard to block and lets have fun giving it tools
Wwraaaah comrade!
Is hard to fly in track suit but is worth it.
Regisaur alpha is by far the best constructed card spoiled so far. 8 power for 5 mana, 3 haste, 2 bodies and permanent haste for your team.
7 power actually
Unfortunately I need to get Regisaur alpha for the dinosaur edh deck.
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Pterosaurs were covered in furry, feather-like structures called pycnofibers (everywhere but their wings; like the fur bodies with leathery wings on bats). Pycnofibers were used strictly for thermal control like mammalian fur, but probably didn't aid in flight, and they were most likely warm-blooded.
So, having pterosaurs being covered in fur-like feathers is actually quite accurate. Although the wings would be bare. But as you pointed out, this is a fantasy version. And they really are much closer relatives to dinosaurs than basically all other reptiles than crocodilians, so it is actually more accurate to call them dinos than, say, lizards.
All that being said this card seems like a nice and efficient little beastie! I like it.
1/1 flying tokens aren't all that rare, and trade with this just as easily as they trade with most 2/2 creatures.
I feel as though Unblockable is blue's evasion keyword, while here we have both Red and White evasion keywords. Also, flying and menace doesn't mean it's necessarily unblockable, it just means that it often will be harder to block.
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What manner of drafting archetype does this suggest? Raging Swordtooth obviously pushes for Enrage, while Belligerent Brontodon encourages playing high-toughness creatures. I guess this pushes for RW's usual cheap, speedy aggro archetype, to counterbalance the more expensive Dinos? I would think something like Akroan Hoplite or Spitemare would have worked better. Even a Dinosaur version of Skyknight Legionnaire. I was kinda hoping the RW Dinosaur Uncommon was going to have Enrage to mirror how the UR Pirate Uncommon has Raid.
Oh well, a flying menace was bound to happen sooner or later. Not bad for a RW Wind Drake.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
I realize that menace + flying doesn't equal unblockable, thanks. How often will this be blocked in Standard though? Are there that many flyers around?