Round 1 - Grixis Control 2-0
Had a turn 1 delver flip into turn 3 Tasigur with Spell Snare protection. Game 2 I used Collective Brutality to yank a terminate and dropped an Angler and won.
Round 2 - Grixis Control 2-0
Game 1 I flipped a Delver and landed a Tasigur early. Game 2 I had a Tasigur out and then played a Blood Moon. Got there.
Round 3 - Infect 1-2
Game 1 I punted so hard. Just brain farted how to play this matchup completely. Game 2 I had lots of removal and Snaps. Game 3 I punted again. I am bad at Magic.
Round 3 - Naya Burn 1-0 (he conceded game 2 early so 2-0 I guess)
Game 1 I bolted his Nacatl, took a hit from Goblin Guide, then landed a Tasigur. I had a Snare and Snapcaster in hand and he couldn't do anything. He scooped game 2 cuz he had to go but this matchup seems fine. I brought in Countersqualls, Dispels, Negates, and Blood Moon.
Overall notes:
Blood Moon is good. I want to go up to two or three in the SB.
Electrolyze is underwhelming and will be moving to 3x mainboard terminates.
This deck has legs and game against anything, love it.
For reference I am pretty much on Kevin Jones' list.
I'm currently playing Ryan's list and I'm loving it. But I also like the Young Pyromancer build.
Kevin Jones is having a lot of success with YP version. So I kinda want to try it. Although, part of me doesn't like playing Gitaxian Probe.
What are the Pros/Cons and the good/bad matchups of each version. In what sort of meta (aggro, control, combo) should you play each version? Sorry if this question has been asked already.
I have played both. Last week was my first time on the Young Pyro and 3x Probe build and it felt much more powerful. I have an aggressive meta and Pyro took over the game very quickly. I am pretty sold on him, and this is coming from someone who was anti Pyro for a long time.
Well TIL I guessed. I've never struggled with Jund but felt it was pretty 50/50. I certainly haven't felt disadvantaged with Tasigurs, Snaps, Pyro, and Kommand.
I am kind f sad that this deck is getting less popular tournaments. What counters this deck most of all? It definitely shot up in playability for a while but it has gone down. What does everyone think?
Got my butt handed to me by Grixis control, and more people have been playing that lately. Also Geist is making a resurgence in a lot of areas and the Nahiri list does not pair up well with Jeskai Flash unless you are mainboarding a few Verdicts (which I do).
I think an adjustment to more boardwipes and lots of Rest in Peace's will be just fine moving forward.
I have personally been on Grixis Delver the last two weeks because it has better matchups in my local meta.
I ended up beating Grixis Control on the weekend. I mean maybe he just drew bad game 3 and then made a risky play by playing a fulminator mage and I was able to punish him with remand and then tap out into an eslpeth into his one open mana (I was far ahead on lands, he was stuck on 4 and I was able to draw into my 6th for my elspeth off my remand)
who is favoured in the Grixis control matchup?
are we favoured vs abzan coco decks? I played a bunch of games vs it and just couldn't seem to win. are many of the decks running spike feeder archangel combo now?
I am 1-1 against Grixis Control, but the guy I beat is a worse player than the guy who beat me. The one that I lost to was the 'Blue Jund' style deck with Thing in the Ice as well and he just had too much value for me to deal with. The guy I beat was on the Grixis Control list that is pretty popular, with Cryptics and the like.
I am kind f sad that this deck is getting less popular tournaments. What counters this deck most of all? It definitely shot up in playability for a while but it has gone down. What does everyone think?
Got my butt handed to me by Grixis control, and more people have been playing that lately. Also Geist is making a resurgence in a lot of areas and the Nahiri list does not pair up well with Jeskai Flash unless you are mainboarding a few Verdicts (which I do).
I think an adjustment to more boardwipes and lots of Rest in Peace's will be just fine moving forward.
I have personally been on Grixis Delver the last two weeks because it has better matchups in my local meta.
If Jace were unbanned (which I think could happen in the next year as he will do very little except be a win con for control) what would be the shell for him? Jeskai or Grixis? I think he would be fun in a Jeskai shell with an Ajani or two as well.
Seems fine with 11 Cantrips, 19 lands and WITHOUT Blood Moon in the side. Otherwise i would not run less than 10 fetchland and more than 2 fastlands alongside Moon.
I would like to hear why he only played 2 copies of Terminate.
Two Terminates plus one Murderous Cut is what a lot of people have been using. I am testing it as well, so far so good. Delve 4 is really easy to attain, so it is typically a 1 mana Terminate. Most of my games I don't have more than 3 or 4 lands in play by mid game, so being able to kill a creature and leave up Snare + Leak or another Terminate or something is pretty beneficial, especially when creating Pyro tokens.
Boswell seems to have an open stream of consciousness just flowing from his mouth this weekend. Patrick, Cedric, LSV, etc. are so good at going over different lines of play and showing the viewer why Play X is relevant two or three turns from now.
CVM and Bos are just doing a play by play it seems...
EDIT: Looks like Kevin Jones made it to the quarters with Delver!
I always bring them in and they are so effective! and if it fetches for basics it slows down a lot his gameplan!
And if you do not bring them in against Jund, a massive 3 colors deck with no mana dorks, what are they useful for?
I have always used moons in sideboard and they are sooo good against a great amount of decks: from midrange/control 3-colors decks to combo (valakut decks, ad nauseam). Moreover, once you have a basic island and swamp we can easily play it cause personally I am playing so few counters that the probability of making snapcaster-counter is low and a lot of times you do not even need it since blood moon locks the match
Blood Moon is all the rage for Jund side-boards these days. They might bring it in against Grixis Delver. You know, massive three-color deck that runs four or more fewer lands than they typically do.
Jund playing blood moon in its sideboard? Are you sure you have ever played against Jund in the last years?
Tons of Jund lists are playing Blood Moon. I have it in my Jund sideboard as well.
Round 1 - Grixis Control 2-0
Had a turn 1 delver flip into turn 3 Tasigur with Spell Snare protection. Game 2 I used Collective Brutality to yank a terminate and dropped an Angler and won.
Round 2 - Grixis Control 2-0
Game 1 I flipped a Delver and landed a Tasigur early. Game 2 I had a Tasigur out and then played a Blood Moon. Got there.
Round 3 - Infect 1-2
Game 1 I punted so hard. Just brain farted how to play this matchup completely. Game 2 I had lots of removal and Snaps. Game 3 I punted again. I am bad at Magic.
Round 3 - Naya Burn 1-0 (he conceded game 2 early so 2-0 I guess)
Game 1 I bolted his Nacatl, took a hit from Goblin Guide, then landed a Tasigur. I had a Snare and Snapcaster in hand and he couldn't do anything. He scooped game 2 cuz he had to go but this matchup seems fine. I brought in Countersqualls, Dispels, Negates, and Blood Moon.
Overall notes:
Blood Moon is good. I want to go up to two or three in the SB.
Electrolyze is underwhelming and will be moving to 3x mainboard terminates.
This deck has legs and game against anything, love it.
For reference I am pretty much on Kevin Jones' list.
I have played both. Last week was my first time on the Young Pyro and 3x Probe build and it felt much more powerful. I have an aggressive meta and Pyro took over the game very quickly. I am pretty sold on him, and this is coming from someone who was anti Pyro for a long time.
I like how the commentators are all "Grixis Delver has such a hard time with Jund hurr durr". It's clear that Marshall doesn't know Modern very well.
I am 1-1 against Grixis Control, but the guy I beat is a worse player than the guy who beat me. The one that I lost to was the 'Blue Jund' style deck with Thing in the Ice as well and he just had too much value for me to deal with. The guy I beat was on the Grixis Control list that is pretty popular, with Cryptics and the like.
Got my butt handed to me by Grixis control, and more people have been playing that lately. Also Geist is making a resurgence in a lot of areas and the Nahiri list does not pair up well with Jeskai Flash unless you are mainboarding a few Verdicts (which I do).
I think an adjustment to more boardwipes and lots of Rest in Peace's will be just fine moving forward.
I have personally been on Grixis Delver the last two weeks because it has better matchups in my local meta.
Two Terminates plus one Murderous Cut is what a lot of people have been using. I am testing it as well, so far so good. Delve 4 is really easy to attain, so it is typically a 1 mana Terminate. Most of my games I don't have more than 3 or 4 lands in play by mid game, so being able to kill a creature and leave up Snare + Leak or another Terminate or something is pretty beneficial, especially when creating Pyro tokens.
CVM and Bos are just doing a play by play it seems...
EDIT: Looks like Kevin Jones made it to the quarters with Delver!
Tons of Jund lists are playing Blood Moon. I have it in my Jund sideboard as well.
Gonna just start packing 3x Blood Moon in all my sideboards I think...