Hello commander community, with the new fun +1 counter fun cards to come out was thinking of revamping an old favourite.
What I am looking for is cards on your minds that have a bio-engineer name/theme to them. Most the Simic cards are easy to find but looking for the odd ones from different sets that would fit into the guild and into a Kraj deck!
Cards already included:
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/204274-statistical-breakdown-of-the-commander-metagame
Funny how many cards on the top 200 list have been reprinted in the last 3 years.
Must say that Wizards is slowly reprinting the EDH staples, but the cant just put them all in one set. Who would buy the next one then?
They spread them out so you buy some from every set.
Cant wait for the next Commander product to come in the fall. Maybe explore the 5 allied pairs?
Nekusar, the Mindraiser you play him for one reason. Wheeee lls dont get mad when we tuck/hate him away. Daretti, Scrap Savant anyone whos played against him knows to keep killing him. One commander that should get attacked again and again and again. Waste Notis not some cheap enchantment. Needs to die asap. Esp when Zur finds it... Temur Ascendancy its that good. Progenitor Mimic runs away with games Soulfire Grand Master time walks... Sliver Hivelord commander or nit Should not have to explain why Sliver guy Narset, Enlightened Master just gross doesn't even need to do damage just turn sideways...
Wow I came onto this thread to preach how much I like Stormsurge Kraken in my Mimeoplasm deck as a choice to copy. Then it bacame a banning and Grixis idea thread.
I dont play combo because its boring, dont reanimate Jin T1 because thats not a game of magic to me. Anyhoo Kraken, make it your copy target. 7/7 +x/x Hexproof and when blocked nets you cards. Not opressive like other (combo-win)ideas, but solid good.
My favourite fun deck packs things that are completely random and often whiffs. With Vedalken Orrery makes for fun times. They should seriously make a legendary creature with this ability. Teferi dosn't count he's a hoser and the best instants are enchantments or sorceries in response. Could call him "Flashman" ha Mind's Desire Temporal Aperture Polymorph Unexpected Results Stitch in Time
ect, you never know what your going to get, could even be a boat.
just try not to copy the decklist card for card, Solrunes deck is agreesive yes, but it is an infinite combo deck. well last time i read his decklist.
Cyxics is right about the vanilla cretures, they just dont pack enough punch in multiplayer.
So my suggestions to delete:
Rakdos Cackler
Stormblood Berserker
Butcher Ghoul
Dusk Hunter Bat
gore-house Chainwalker
Splatter Thug
Dead Reveler
Helium Squirter
Also in Multi unless you can get some more value out of discard, the 1 for 1's ARE not worth it.
Duress, Thoughtseize ect. Terrible. Try discard that hits all opponents! Death Cloud is a good example of a game ender discard in Marchesa. that was its 1 card for you 3 for opponents like Syphon Mind
though, be careful with horizon chimera about the APNAP rule. If it is your turn, you will get damage before you heal from chimera. (If it is not, the abilities are resolved in reverse-turn-order.)
Only matters is you are at 1 life, each draw is a trigger for both so take 1 damage then gain 1 life, or reverse if nekusar is the active player
This is correct for effects that cause you to draw a *single* card at a time.
If there is a Windfall effect while you are at say, 5 life, and you draw five cards, then there is in fact five separate 1 damage triggers and five separate 1 life triggers, but they all are placed on the stack in APNAP order on resolution of the spell - or more precisely, the next time a player would recieve priority. They are not placed on the stack between each card drawn.
If you are the active player (or closer to it than the Nekusar player at least), you will die before your life gain triggers resolve, given no other interference.
ok just to clarify, if Nekusar plays wheel of fortune effect and you have a horizon chimera out and say your at 7 life just for S&G's
Spell resolves draw 7
Active player triggers stack first so 7x take 1 damage triggers
then non-active players trigger stack so 7x gain 1 life triggers
stack resolves, you live correct?
now if YOU wheel yourself then... well different story. or they make you draw 7 on your turn from an instant. but for most wheel effects are not instants and the damage Nekusar decks pack mostly comes from their turn.
but only blunts it because once another "do 1 damage whenever someone draws a card" effect or some damage doubler is out...Also doesn't stop storm, Megrim, Bloodchief Ascension, or just plain milling you to death.
This one simply does not work with your initial draw step.
You will stop some Nekusar damage, but far from all of it.
Somebody has to nitpick.
I never said lifelink, I said Spirit Link. Its variants Spirit Loop, Soul Link, Vampiric Link all would mitigate the damage from Nekusar, so would Hinder/Spell Crumple ect ect ect
With Kiora out it only mitigates the damage on Nekusar's turn, so no endless wheel effects unless they can play them as instants Its a great card to have against, and is good for hosing troublesome creatures like Nekusar.
Yes any replace draw effects will work, some are playable some not.
Another good card is Dissipation Field unless they have set up enough triggers to kill you then....but great in its own right.
or just Aura Shards to hate on all their enchantments/artifacts they tend to run.
though, be careful with horizon chimera about the APNAP rule. If it is your turn, you will get damage before you heal from chimera. (If it is not, the abilities are resolved in reverse-turn-order.)
Only matters is you are at 1 life, each draw is a trigger for both so take 1 damage then gain 1 life, or reverse if nekusar is the active player
Sure does look like Dig, but the question remains, Why the @#$% didnt they use the new awesome art? Another UMA fail.
MM17 > UMA aka Should of been M25
What I am looking for is cards on your minds that have a bio-engineer name/theme to them. Most the Simic cards are easy to find but looking for the odd ones from different sets that would fit into the guild and into a Kraj deck!
Cards already included:
stuff like that!
Ideas for Kraj themed cards that would fit well?
I second Conspiracy 2.0, was a gret edh set. Its foils are worth a ton though
Funny how many cards on the top 200 list have been reprinted in the last 3 years.
Must say that Wizards is slowly reprinting the EDH staples, but the cant just put them all in one set. Who would buy the next one then?
They spread them out so you buy some from every set.
Cant wait for the next Commander product to come in the fall. Maybe explore the 5 allied pairs?
Daretti, Scrap Savant anyone whos played against him knows to keep killing him. One commander that should get attacked again and again and again.
Waste Notis not some cheap enchantment. Needs to die asap. Esp when Zur finds it...
Temur Ascendancy its that good.
Progenitor Mimic runs away with games
Soulfire Grand Master time walks...
Sliver Hivelord commander or nit Should not have to explain why Sliver guy
Narset, Enlightened Master just gross doesn't even need to do damage just turn sideways...
Angel of Jubilation?
Ive been having fun with Vodalian Illusionist its a psudo remover/saver and quite handy to have online
I dont play combo because its boring, dont reanimate Jin T1 because thats not a game of magic to me. Anyhoo Kraken, make it your copy target. 7/7 +x/x Hexproof and when blocked nets you cards. Not opressive like other (combo-win)ideas, but solid good.
Mind's Desire
Temporal Aperture
Polymorph
Unexpected Results
Stitch in Time
ect, you never know what your going to get, could even be a boat.
Cyxics is right about the vanilla cretures, they just dont pack enough punch in multiplayer.
So my suggestions to delete:
Rakdos Cackler
Stormblood Berserker
Butcher Ghoul
Dusk Hunter Bat
gore-house Chainwalker
Splatter Thug
Dead Reveler
Helium Squirter
Also in Multi unless you can get some more value out of discard, the 1 for 1's ARE not worth it.
Duress, Thoughtseize ect. Terrible. Try discard that hits all opponents! Death Cloud is a good example of a game ender discard in Marchesa. that was its 1 card for you 3 for opponents like Syphon Mind
Add in some more bombs that include depth. Also most are very budget friendly! Marchesa likes a bargain
Puppeteer Clique if you can get one is an all star here
Ogre Battledriver
Grim Haruspex
Gray Merchant of Asphodel Hits every opponent, and its a enter play trigger (Better than Kokusho in this deck)
Necropolis Regent
Disciple of Bolas
Solemn Simulacrum
Sage of Fables
Sepulchral Primordial
Diluvian Primordial
Molten Primordial
ect ect
ok just to clarify, if Nekusar plays wheel of fortune effect and you have a horizon chimera out and say your at 7 life just for S&G's
Spell resolves draw 7
Active player triggers stack first so 7x take 1 damage triggers
then non-active players trigger stack so 7x gain 1 life triggers
stack resolves, you live correct?
now if YOU wheel yourself then... well different story. or they make you draw 7 on your turn from an instant. but for most wheel effects are not instants and the damage Nekusar decks pack mostly comes from their turn.
Somebody has to nitpick.
I never said lifelink, I said Spirit Link. Its variants Spirit Loop, Soul Link, Vampiric Link all would mitigate the damage from Nekusar, so would Hinder/Spell Crumple ect ect ect
With Kiora out it only mitigates the damage on Nekusar's turn, so no endless wheel effects unless they can play them as instants Its a great card to have against, and is good for hosing troublesome creatures like Nekusar.
Yes any replace draw effects will work, some are playable some not.
Another good card is Dissipation Field unless they have set up enough triggers to kill you then....but great in its own right.
or just Aura Shards to hate on all their enchantments/artifacts they tend to run.
Only matters is you are at 1 life, each draw is a trigger for both so take 1 damage then gain 1 life, or reverse if nekusar is the active player
necropotence replaces draw effects
Horizon Chimera gain life for draws effects
Kiora, the Crashing Wave