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  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Colt47 »
    Give it a few weeks. People have just started drafting it this week and we are on a holiday as well. A lot of the top cards in the set are new to players that started around Theros / Kahns block so they likely haven't gotten their copies yet. My guess is that due to the sheer number of boxes and packs prices will drop on a lot of the cards over the coming months. It's just that for now prices are holding a bit steady. We literally just hit release last friday.


    I hope your estimate reigns true. I'm more pessimistic but there is something to be said for wallet fatigue for sure. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. Smile
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Yeah the prices on TCG player are a fantasy right now.


    TCGplayer prices are clearly a pipe dream of the sellers at this point.


    Yep, I never pay attention to them. Ebay buy it now pricing is much more indicative. I caught/bought a single copy ofMishra's Bauble for $5.00 shipped a few days ago. Haven't seen one that low since. For a brief and I mean brief time I saw a few for $4.95 on buy it now, but that time seems to be past. As far as I'm concerned, barring another fall, these have bottomed out and my prediction of no sub 5 dollar prices (minus TCG baloney) is shown to be true.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [Deck] Modern Slivers
    ^^^ Looks like Ari Lax did what I was suggesting 3 weeks ago back in my post #1753. Slivers with Hive & Vial and the new 5C Humans manabase.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on The Immortal Sun and a black Dino
    I will give Immortal Sun some proxy play testing in place of Karn in my Modern EldraziTron deck.

    At first glance Karn looks to have it in spades over this.

    But... the mana reduction on ALL spells you cast is nice. The +1/+1 buff works well with Walking Ballista keeping it alive when drained of counters. Free card draw is always welcome in EldraziTron as well. A turn 3 play off natural Tron could be this, then it discounts 2 mana spells like Ballista, Contortion, Warping Wail, Mind Stone or Chalice set on one played that same turn. I am interested for sure, but its this or Karn and Karn is Karn. Wink
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Colorless Eldrazi Tron
    So any thoughts on Immortal Sun? coming in Rivals of Ixalan?

    Worth replacing Karn or not? Shuts down Walkers pretty well but as most artifacts is prone to removal. The buff for our creatures and mana discount seems decent. Kinda like a fixed half strength Eye of Ugin. Although this seems SLOW.

    I'll post what I said in the spoiler thread on this…

    "But... the mana reduction on ALL spells you cast is nice. The +1/+1 buff works well with Walking Ballista keeping it alive when drained of counters. Free card draw is always welcome in EldraziTron as well. A turn 3 play off natural Tron could be this, then it discounts 2 mana spells like Ballista, Contortion, Warping Wail, Mind Stone or Chalice set on one played that same turn. I am interested for sure, but its this or Karn and Karn is Karn." Wink
    Posted in: Tier 1 (Modern)
  • posted a message on Magic products 25% off today at Target???
    Except the competition won't be good for local game stores who'd go out of business If Wizards of the Coast ends up aligning themselves with Amazon Prime where they can move product much faster than local game stores and popular retail chains such as Walmart and Target. Players NEED local game stores in order to play Magic and have fun.


    Then LGS need to diversify and adapt to stay competitive. And I do all my playing in a fairly tight but competitive circle of family and friends and don't feel the need to hit up my LGS to play. I'm past that social stage in my life. I do frequent it and buy product quite often. I don't want to see it go, but a business needs to adapt to what is going on.

    Competition is good for the consumer. Monopolies seldom work out well.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    I don't know how someone could overlook this unless they literally don't play any kind of TCG at all, have zero idea what kind of cards are getting played, and by extension live under a rock someplace with minimal contact with the outside world. I can literally open a browser to MTG Goldfish or some other deck site and see what the high played cards are in a given format and unless EDH REC is showing a card in 90+ percent of all EDH decks it does not have the staying power to hold a price tag with a reprint.


    I think you took that from Wizards Help Wanted add for Masters Set R&D positions. Wink
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Trumplebot »
    So, at least the supply seems to be not as limited as the masters sets before. Thats a good thing, isn´t it? At least the print run limitation of previous sets was one of the bad points on the sets. So at least one point turned out to be better, right?

    And can we expect thouse increased print runs on future master sets?


    If you are a player that just wants the cards to play and collect (like me) then yes. If you are one of these investment types that treat cardboard like the stock market then no.

    Who knows about your second question? I just wish they would up the quality of reprints. Too much dumpster fire jank at all rarity levels in these sets.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Magic products 25% off today at Target???
    I am 100% fine with them selling Masters sets at box stores in 3 card draft packs. My beef is with the QUALITY OF REPRINTS in the sets. For what you get a lot of packs aren't premium at all but a mylar package of poop. Paying $9.99 MSRP for a pack that yields less than a dollars worth of cards on the secondary market is a steaming hot load of "feel bad".

    Hope the Card Wars discounts continue through the Holiday Season. Competition is good for the consumer. Smile
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Explorers of Ixalan - Full Decklists
    Maybe WotC should actually promote this kind of thing at LGS instead of being so draconic and unsupportive with the people who promote their game the most.


    Yep, it would be nice if you ordered with your DCI number that they would ship you your product a week ahead of schedule. Take care of your die-hard core a week early then on release day at the box stores to the masses later. Just a thought.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Magic products 25% off today at Target???
    So the deal at Meijer's according to their ad is BOGO (buy one get one free) on toys. Technically not 50% off but they may honor that. BUT… the ad says it only runs through today (it started last Sunday). So for a few the stars have aligned. I dropped a Christmas hint to my mother for some for my son's Christmas present as she has a local Meijer's. I will let all know if she finds any and gets the deal but it appears that if you don't act today, it may be too late for that deal.

    https://www.meijer.com/weeklyad/?storeref=269

    It also says "selected toys" so it could be hit or miss.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Magic products 25% off today at Target???
    Thanks for responding all. Wish I had one of those stores running 50% off like Meijer's is rumored to. Smile (Can't corroborate that one yet.)
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Btw, congrats to your kiddo; I bet he was psyched. Really cool Magic is something that the both of you can enjoy together. I'm actually tempted to pop into my local Target now and see if they're running that same sale. I have a gift card to burn and like collecting sealed boosters, so that beats paying MSRP.


    Thanks, he was for sure. Smile And yes father/son time is well worth the cost. Good luck if you find some for 25% off or more. Smile

    I don't know if it is a store wide thing across multiple areas or just a few of them, but my Meijer had them off for 50%.


    Holy Guacamole that is one helluva deal even with some of the dumpster jank in this set. Wish I had one of those close.

    I am going to wait a week or two before I buy any singles. It may pay off to be patient.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Magic products 25% off today at Target???
    My local target had 25% off toys today and the 2 3-card Iconic Masters Draft Packs we bought were 25% off each. I would guess it would apply to all cards. You may want to check your local Target to see if they have the same deal going on. I had no idea and it was a pleasant surprise. Loose packs were already priced to $3.33 and another 25% off could bump them down to about $2.50 a pack USD. Again, I don't know if was just my local store or nationwide. You may want to check or contact them before making the trip. Just wanted to pass possible savings along. Smile Let me know if you do save the 25% or not.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    So my son and I ran by Target to see if they had these 3 pack draft packs. They did amazingly, $30.99 a piece. I buy one for each of us. Checking out Target is having a 25% off on toys today so we get a nice discount of about $2.50 a pack. This is where these packs should start at anyway at $7 to $7.50 each not $10 a pop.

    He cracks in his first pack…..

    Mana Drain Grin

    2nd pack…

    Magus of the Moon Smile Third pack garbage. Whatever, his first card pays for what I spent plus a little. I'm happy for him he is a great student and even greater son and deserves some good pulls for his fantastic grades. Smile

    My packs pretty much garbage except a single Glimpse the Unthinkable. I did pull a Thran Dynamo at uncommon at least. All 6 foils total were commons. Frown I would have felt a lot worse at 10 bucks a pack over 7.50 a pack.

    I see these prices falling more. This set doesn't feel very "premium" when you get maybe a dollars worth of chaff in 2/3 of the packs. A premium pack should have all foils be at uncommon and above, a foil token in each pack and only 7 commons and 6 uncommons per pack to justify the price.
    Posted in: Modern
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