To be clear, Staff decided that Mafia would no longer be part of their community and this was not something that was negotiated with us beforehand. We would have been more than happy to join everyone else on Nexus if we had a space to move our community to.
No hard feelings of course, wish you guys the best at the new place.
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D_V specifically told us, in thread, the five items were all from the auction house.
And yes, I did do the math.
Those three plus the Map of Other Worlds, the Potions of Speed, and the Twin Scepters are six items total.
It just feels like he's coming from a place where he doesn't need to explain things rather than a place where he's trying to conceal them.
I... guess that's kind of townie, actually. Townie for you, anyway.
There are also six items total missing from the AH by counting lot numbers.
Of those items the wolves definitely have the Potions of Speed and two of the items that were supposed to be auctioned toDay. They also stole the Twin Scepters, but DoTA had those and I... can't remember who we voted to take them but the wolves don't have them anymore.
Tom has the Map of Other Worlds and ~probably~ another item that was supposed to be put out toDay, which makes six total.
Wuffles - 15
Silvercrys3467 - 17
DoTA - 2
Vezok - 4
shadowlancerx - 33
Iso - 27
KamikazeArchon - 36
Lastwhisper - 75
dawningbluesky - 38
Grapefruit21 - 89
tomsloger - 31
Killjoy - 45
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry - 32
Rhand - 67
Atogaholic - 91
RE1031 - 77
Prophylaxis - 24?
Gemma - 51?
Item distributions:
Plant of Serenity, Holy Water, Tommy Gun - TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
Potion of Truth, Rift of Zhar - [Wuffles]
Mask of Azathoth - Anonymous Bidder
Pocket Watch - [tomsloger]
Telescope - [Prophylaxis?]
Puzzle Box - [DotA]
Ruby of R'lyeh - [Silvercrys3467]
Looking Glass - [RE1031]
tom also has the Map of Other Worlds.
(Misremembered, Rhand is 67 but this should be ~accurate)
The anonymous bidder probably has a real auction number to go with their ability to bid anonymously, I imagine.
This feels so, so close to a solve but I feel like I can't fit the pieces together.
As far as Shadow's heist options, I think "passed it to buddy secretly" is pretty unlikely. If he had an item or ability that allowed him to do that himself it would have appeared in his flip so that would have had to come from somewhere else.
If he didn't heist there are a minimum of five wolves which means... you're probably a villager and three of those five instead of two are wolves which is even better odds of just ending the game by chain lynching the PoE.
If he got a consumable, it either had no obvious effect or is the ability that vandalized Terry.
re: the anonymous bidder, I think the most likely choices for that are Togs and RE, actually, they're the most AH involved roles left. Don't really think bodyguard = anonymous bidder makes a lot of sense... But something still blocked my kill, he could be a wolf bulletproof bodyguard or something.
That's still not a thing. He never counterclaims Vezok as a wolf. It doesn't happen.
And the only wolf that actually sort of fits is DoTA, Shadow's "once per game" deal is totally unrelated to his other ability.
Actually, shadow breaking an item was also a once per game deal.
So now you're saying the wolves had to once per game abilities that break items, one of which breaks a bunch of them while the other only breaks one.
The vandalism was an item from the AH. I don't think anything else makes sense because otherwise... What happened to Shadow's heist item?
It makes more sense that he *lied* about the ability being only able to affect things he has in his possession and counterclaimed a villager, which could have gotten him lynched, than that one of the other wolves has the vandal ability *or* that one of the two unknowns items was a consumable vandalism item?
I just. I don't buy it.
That's an... unconvincing argument, in my opinion.
But yeah, I'm a vigilante with a role that looks like a serial killer.
I don't really hate Cyan's conclusions from those isos I guess. I'm not sure I agree, either, but it probably doesn't really matter what order Proph/Gemma/Atog get lynched in since two of them are extremely likely to be scum. imo.
Kind of think it's just Proph/Gemma because it isn't Proph/Atog and Atog/Gemma/DoTA is approaching lolwolves levels of lacking thread presence.
@Cyan: Who do you think is Tog's other Heist partner? It pretty much has to be Grape or Killjoy if he's a wolf, right?
@Atogaholic: Maybe you aren't caught up, but there's around a 98% chance of two wolves in [You / Gemma / Proph / Killjoy / Grapefruit] because you don't have confirmable N1 actions and aren't cleared for some other reason (like, Wuffles is modconfirmed).
If you can remove yourself from that PoE by having an action we can somehow confirm occurred on N1, lynching Gemma / Proph probably just wins and otherwise probably still nets 2 wolf flips.
The doctor's dead and the investigatives have claimed. I don't even, at the moment, actually really care if you tell us what it is, but just knowing whether you have one or not would be pretty useful.
You're not in any danger of being lynched immediately, seems to be some confusion over whether it's going to be me, Killjoy, Grape, or Gemma at the moment.
Primarily just world building/excluding players with verified night actions because there's at least two wolves in the rather short list of names of uncleared players who don't have alibis for N1.