@Everyone: I would love to answer everyone, but I am going to need to /replace out. It is looking like my mom may be back in the hospital soon, and that comes first.
@Void: So, am I reading you correctly that your vote on me is because Rodemy is a newb and I am gabbing low hanging fruit because of that? If that was gonna be your case the entire time, why even bother having me write about the playstyles of Axel, DJ and Proph? As Cyan so "nicely" pointed out, it basically made it seem like I did nothing, despite the fact that I was answering a request from you that could have had a legitimate endgame. I'm sorry, but being a newb is not an excuse in my book for letting a person off so easily. As for the low hanging fruit part, well aren't the majority of RVS busting/early non RVS votes just grasping at low hanging fruit/very weak scumtells in order to bait some reactions? I certainly see it that way.
@DJ: Opportunistic vote much? As for your question though, As of now he is playing towards his town meta IMO.
@DKing: Well your vote is horrible because as you just said, I did criticize Proph's vote while agreeing with the vote itself. Just because I disagree with HOW he made the vote does not mean I disagree with the WHY. There have been plenty of votes where people have gone around placing the vote in an odd or unusual way, but the reasoning (Implied or otherwise) itself is sound.
@Kami: that is actually a nice catch. I know my trigger goes by that theme too. And it seems so far from what info has been leaked that Rodemy, Wildfire's AND godot's do as well. That said, there is a non 0% chance that the mod may have made a player's trigger like that on purpose. I am for a claim though to confirm that and work from there. No names though if you need a certain player to die.
As for mine: I am the same as Rodemy (Unlocked if anybody targets me.)
@Void RE post 47: I'll try to answer, but to be perfectly honest, I can't even remember the last time I played with Axel (if at all,) and the last time I played with DJ and Proph in any length, it was in Tales of Xymande.
As for Proph's playstyle. Him and I actually have had a talk about this in the past. As Kami pointed out, he can get overeager. While this can be good, this does lead him to having what is best described as "His Big slip." It usually comes from him overreaching on an argument. As town, he is less likely to have one big slip, but rather several smaller slips. As scum though, it is usually pretty bag, as he is trying to play into his town meta.
Using an example: In Tales of Xymande, we were at a point in Day 1 where two neighbors were out in a three neighbor pair. I forget who made the suggestion exactly (May have been me actually,) that the third person would be best to claim. At this point Proph, in full aggro mode, snapped at this person in a very defensive tone. That pretty much led me to narrow him down to either being the neighbor, or scum not wanting to have that info out. I was sadly not able to follow through on this as I was under pressure for taking a very controversial position of both the top scum suspects actually being town (Of which I was proven right.) On top of that, myself and proph had to be replaced out as we fell victim to the new OM system on changeover to Curse.
As for DJ, well it has been nearly a year, so things could have changed, but at the time he was very much more of a newbie than anything. It always felt like he was taking stances that he himself was not fully aware of the reasoning of. This obviously led him to be a massive mislynch target. Things may have changed since then though as it has been since February. I still feel though that he is likely to be targeted as a mislynch target given his relative inexperience compared to most of the players in the game.
As for Axel, again can't even remember the last time I played with him, and it is very likely it is well past a year and a half. In which case any playstyle observations I may have on him would likely be old anyway.
@Cyan and Dking: Your votes are bad and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
@Rodemy RE 76: Then why even bring up DJ in the first place? It seems unfair at best to go after one of the weakest players for not voting at all 1st post when others did the same.
@Proph: I hardly call 4 hours RVS going on for a while. Hell, not even everyone has checked in by my count. I can certainly see why you voted him (He voted for the mod as opposed to a player,) but it seems you are trying to over explain your reasoning.
@Rodemy: Why go after DJ for his lack of vote in his 1st post? Proph and Axel also did the same thing. Axel still has not voted last I checked. If you were truly concerned about a non vote 1st post, I would think you would have gone after them as well. Yet, you chose to only go after Proph for his Kami vote and not his 1st post and totally ignored Axel.
Rhand should be obvious by now, as he has been pouring info into this thread about his role PM, something scum usually don't do. I mean, fake claims could be a thing here, and he could use it to basiclly clear himself for a while, but it seems too risky to do it in his position. Sir Karn I know has been contentious, but I feel he is likely town as his defense of myself makes no sense from a scum perspective. Scum!Karn would have to know defending myself would lead to a lot of attention no matter how I flip. Town though don't care about such heat, and he has that "I don't care" attitude.
Lean Town: Tammy, Cythare, KCC, Teia
I feel better about Tammy after her replies to myself. Cythare hasn't done anything to scream scum, and as Teia pointed out, his arguments seem genuine. KCC, while he has attacked myself and is the main pusher of my wagon, I see it coming from an overzealous and tunnel visioned townie as opposed to scum looking for an easy mislynch. As for Teia, while not posting too much content, I do like the catch up post and feel it is genuine.
Neutral: Arian, anyone else not mentioned in the other piles
Arian hasn't done anything to make me say he is scum, but to be fair, he has not done too much in my view to be town. I just have a natural distrust of the role, and if fakeclaims are a thing, he could easily try to use it to his advantage at this point.
Lean Scum: DCIII, iRebel, hans
This pile is lean scum mainly due to them being low post players. My experience in larger games has found that at least one scum will hide out among the low posters and thus it is worth at least pressuring these players to post more tomorrow.
Likely Scum: Bur, Rai, BlackVise
Bur for his early interaction with Arian. Yes again fake claims COULD be a thing, and I know what Rhand is talking about, but Bur went out of his way to say Arian is a survivalist. Thing is though, it was less than 24 hours into the game, so it is very likely Bur at this point in the game had read his role PM and didn't forget it that quick. Rai and Blackvise are on the list as they just seem to be pushing others to push my wagon over the edge. I mean hell, BlackVise in post 393 literally recycled KCC's case against me, and even went as far to say I did not explain my vote on HP (Which, I actually did explain to Tammy earlier in the day.) Rai on the other hand is just pushing people to lynch without presenting much more, and has basically been coasting on my lynch.
@Mod: V/LA until Saturday, will have further updates via PM or here if things change.
@DJ: Opportunistic vote much? As for your question though, As of now he is playing towards his town meta IMO.
@DKing: Well your vote is horrible because as you just said, I did criticize Proph's vote while agreeing with the vote itself. Just because I disagree with HOW he made the vote does not mean I disagree with the WHY. There have been plenty of votes where people have gone around placing the vote in an odd or unusual way, but the reasoning (Implied or otherwise) itself is sound.
@Kami: that is actually a nice catch. I know my trigger goes by that theme too. And it seems so far from what info has been leaked that Rodemy, Wildfire's AND godot's do as well. That said, there is a non 0% chance that the mod may have made a player's trigger like that on purpose. I am for a claim though to confirm that and work from there. No names though if you need a certain player to die.
As for mine: I am the same as Rodemy (Unlocked if anybody targets me.)
As for Proph's playstyle. Him and I actually have had a talk about this in the past. As Kami pointed out, he can get overeager. While this can be good, this does lead him to having what is best described as "His Big slip." It usually comes from him overreaching on an argument. As town, he is less likely to have one big slip, but rather several smaller slips. As scum though, it is usually pretty bag, as he is trying to play into his town meta.
Using an example: In Tales of Xymande, we were at a point in Day 1 where two neighbors were out in a three neighbor pair. I forget who made the suggestion exactly (May have been me actually,) that the third person would be best to claim. At this point Proph, in full aggro mode, snapped at this person in a very defensive tone. That pretty much led me to narrow him down to either being the neighbor, or scum not wanting to have that info out. I was sadly not able to follow through on this as I was under pressure for taking a very controversial position of both the top scum suspects actually being town (Of which I was proven right.) On top of that, myself and proph had to be replaced out as we fell victim to the new OM system on changeover to Curse.
As for DJ, well it has been nearly a year, so things could have changed, but at the time he was very much more of a newbie than anything. It always felt like he was taking stances that he himself was not fully aware of the reasoning of. This obviously led him to be a massive mislynch target. Things may have changed since then though as it has been since February. I still feel though that he is likely to be targeted as a mislynch target given his relative inexperience compared to most of the players in the game.
As for Axel, again can't even remember the last time I played with him, and it is very likely it is well past a year and a half. In which case any playstyle observations I may have on him would likely be old anyway.
@Cyan and Dking: Your votes are bad and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
@Rodemy RE 76: Then why even bring up DJ in the first place? It seems unfair at best to go after one of the weakest players for not voting at all 1st post when others did the same.
@Axel RE Post 103: /Barn.
@Proph: I hardly call 4 hours RVS going on for a while. Hell, not even everyone has checked in by my count. I can certainly see why you voted him (He voted for the mod as opposed to a player,) but it seems you are trying to over explain your reasoning.
@Rodemy: Why go after DJ for his lack of vote in his 1st post? Proph and Axel also did the same thing. Axel still has not voted last I checked. If you were truly concerned about a non vote 1st post, I would think you would have gone after them as well. Yet, you chose to only go after Proph for his Kami vote and not his 1st post and totally ignored Axel.
Vote Rodemy
Why have one person to satisfy you completely when you can have two that satisfy you in different ways?
So what you are saying is that we could have started 2 days ago, huh?
Because if so... DEADLINE EXTENSION!
Quoting again for epic truth.
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@Wild: If ya want my reads so badly, actually read my big post listing my reads.
Vote Tanarin
Catch ya on the flip side everyone. Make sure to take a damn good look at Bur and Blackvise for me.
Also thanks everyone for your condolances.
Anyway, I do agree with KCC that my lynch will be a goldmine at this point, and I know I don't want to see a PR outted at this point.
I'll self hammer in 24 hours if need be, mainly because I can't assure I will be any sort of active like KCC seems to expect me to be.
Town: HookerPunch
Likely Town: Rhand, Sir Karn
Rhand should be obvious by now, as he has been pouring info into this thread about his role PM, something scum usually don't do. I mean, fake claims could be a thing here, and he could use it to basiclly clear himself for a while, but it seems too risky to do it in his position. Sir Karn I know has been contentious, but I feel he is likely town as his defense of myself makes no sense from a scum perspective. Scum!Karn would have to know defending myself would lead to a lot of attention no matter how I flip. Town though don't care about such heat, and he has that "I don't care" attitude.
Lean Town: Tammy, Cythare, KCC, Teia
I feel better about Tammy after her replies to myself. Cythare hasn't done anything to scream scum, and as Teia pointed out, his arguments seem genuine. KCC, while he has attacked myself and is the main pusher of my wagon, I see it coming from an overzealous and tunnel visioned townie as opposed to scum looking for an easy mislynch. As for Teia, while not posting too much content, I do like the catch up post and feel it is genuine.
Neutral: Arian, anyone else not mentioned in the other piles
Arian hasn't done anything to make me say he is scum, but to be fair, he has not done too much in my view to be town. I just have a natural distrust of the role, and if fakeclaims are a thing, he could easily try to use it to his advantage at this point.
Lean Scum: DCIII, iRebel, hans
This pile is lean scum mainly due to them being low post players. My experience in larger games has found that at least one scum will hide out among the low posters and thus it is worth at least pressuring these players to post more tomorrow.
Likely Scum: Bur, Rai, BlackVise
Bur for his early interaction with Arian. Yes again fake claims COULD be a thing, and I know what Rhand is talking about, but Bur went out of his way to say Arian is a survivalist. Thing is though, it was less than 24 hours into the game, so it is very likely Bur at this point in the game had read his role PM and didn't forget it that quick. Rai and Blackvise are on the list as they just seem to be pushing others to push my wagon over the edge. I mean hell, BlackVise in post 393 literally recycled KCC's case against me, and even went as far to say I did not explain my vote on HP (Which, I actually did explain to Tammy earlier in the day.) Rai on the other hand is just pushing people to lynch without presenting much more, and has basically been coasting on my lynch.