Don't know if it's better to play 3-1 PW over 2-2 or 3 lili and 0 ashiok (or vice versa).
Still thinking to use 12/14 creatures.
Not sure about the counterspells.
Need help with manabase too.
You actually get zombies if you wrath with kalitas on board. The replacement effect checks board status immediately before the wipe, and since kalitas is "alive" directly before all their dude eat it, you gets the zombs. Don't have the rules reference in front of me at the moment, but check it if you like. Judge?
Kbludoo - it looks like that list is from a stream - did you happen to catch a link to the videos ? It looks okay but these kind of aggro builds seem like a weaker version of merfolk.
This is the list that I'm testing, without Liliana of the Veil. I think Sorin fits better than Lili in this build because of lingering and pyromancer, I'm planning to test the new Liliana instead Sorin and LoTV.
I think the mana base is weak too and wanna hear your suggestions!
1x Concealed Courtyard
3x Creeping Tar Pit
2x Darkslick Shores
2x Flooded Strand
1x Godless Shrine
2x Hallowed Fountain
1x Island
2x Marsh Flats
1x Plains
4x Polluted Delta
1x Swamp
2x Watery Grave
Instant (10)
1x Dismember
2x Esper Charm
3x Fatal Push
4x Path to Exile
2x Collective Brutality
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
3x Lingering Souls
2x Thoughtseize
Enchantment (3)
3x Spreading Seas
Planeswalker (3)
3x Liliana of the Veil
Creature (11)
3x Geist of Saint Traft
4x Snapcaster Mage
2x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2x Vendilion Clique
2x Celestial Purge
1x Disenchant
2x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
3x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Stony Silence
3x Surgical Extraction
2x Wrath of God
2-0 Against Bant Knightfall
2-0 Against Eldrazi Tron
2-0 Against Affinity
2-1 Against UB Mill
Any suggestions?
3x Arid Mesa
4x Celestial Colonnade
1x Clifftop Retreat
4x Flooded Strand
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Island
1x Mountain
1x Plains
1x Sacred Foundry
3x Scalding Tarn
3x Steam Vents
1x Sulfur Falls
4x Lightning Angel
4x Mantis Rider
4x Snapcaster Mage
4x Spell Queller
4x Spellstutter Sprite
Instant (16)
4x Electrolyze
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Lightning Helix
4x Path to Exile
Maybe 24 lands is too much and I'm still unsure about 4x Spellstutter and 4x Electrolyze.
What do you think?
I tried to play with Thought Scour and delve pack like grixis but Snap and Goyf seemed to be useless sometimes.
I'll test with 3/1 lili and cut off Witness for Kalithas.
I'm not a big fan of delve mechanic but murderous cut can be a thing.
I'll try a new build and post the results.
1x Breeding Pool
2x Creeping Tar Pit
1x Forest
1x Hinterland Harbor
1x Hissing Quagmire
1x Island
2x Misty Rainforest
2x Overgrown Tomb
2x Polluted Delta
2x Swamp
4x Verdant Catacombs
2x Watery Grave
1x Woodland Cemetery
3x Abrupt Decay
2x Countersquall
3x Fatal Push
2x Spell Snare
Creature (11)
1x Eternal Witness
2x Scavenging Ooze
4x Snapcaster Mage
4x Tarmogoyf
Sorcery (12)
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Maelstrom Pulse
4x Serum Visions
3x Thoughtseize
2x Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
2x Liliana, the Last Hope
Artifact (1)
1x Engineered Explosives
Don't know if it's better to play 3-1 PW over 2-2 or 3 lili and 0 ashiok (or vice versa).
Still thinking to use 12/14 creatures.
Not sure about the counterspells.
Need help with manabase too.
1x Concealed Courtyard
3x Creeping Tar Pit
2x Darkslick Shores
1x Eiganjo Castle
4x Flooded Strand
1x Godless Shrine
2x Hallowed Fountain
1x Island
2x Plains
4x Polluted Delta
1x Swamp
1x Watery Grave
Creature (14)
4x Geist of Saint Traft
1x Restoration Angel
3x Snapcaster Mage
4x Spell Queller
2x Vendilion Clique
1x Collective Brutality
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
4x Serum Visions
3x Thoughtseize
Instant (10)
2x Esper Charm
4x Fatal Push
4x Path to Exile
Planeswalker (2)
1x Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
2x Blessed Alliance
3x Countersquall
1x Disenchant
1x Engineered Explosives
1x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
3x Meddling Mage
1x Supreme Verdict
2x Surgical Extraction
1x Wrath of God
Leave your suggestions!
Correct.
Gatherer says "If Kalitas dies at the same time as creatures your opponents control, those creature cards will be exiled and you’ll get that many Zombies."
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=407596
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Spell Queller
1 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
2 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
Planeswalker (2)
2 Liliana, the Last Hope
Instant (11)
1 Dismember
4 Path to Exile
1 Slaughter Pact
1 Blessed Alliance
2 Remand
2 Spell snare
1 Collective Brutality
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize
4 Lingering Souls
3 Serum Visions
Land (22)
2 Concealed Courtyard
3 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Shambling Vent
2 Darkslick Shores
3 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
1 Godless Shrine
2 Watery Grave
2 hallowed fountain
1 Island
1 Plains
1 Swamp
Yeah the link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TePiXSMjfbc
I think the mana base is weak too and wanna hear your suggestions!
2x Arid Mesa
4x Blackcleave Cliffs
1x Blood Crypt
2x Bloodstained Mire
1x Concealed Courtyard
2x Godless Shrine
3x Inspiring Vantage
2x Marsh Flats
1x Mountain
1x Plains
2x Shambling Vent
2x Swamp
2x Kolaghan's Command
4x Lightning Bolt
2x Lightning Helix
4x Path to Exile
3x Terminate
Sorcery (11)
4x Inquisition of Kozilek
4x Lingering Souls
3x Thoughtseize
Creature (9)
4x Dark Confidant
2x Soulfire Grand Master
3x Young Pyromancer
Planeswalker (2)
2x Sorin, Solemn Visitor
3x Crackling Doom
1x Dreadbore
1x Duress
1x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
2x Lightning Helix
2x Pyroclasm
1x Relic of Progenitus
2x Rest in Peace
2x Wear / Tear
http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=13714&d=280796&f=MO
With red I have many good options for sideboard like Slaughter Games and Whipflare
1 Academy Ruins
3 Blinkmoth Nexus
1 Blood Crypt
1 Bloodstained Mire
2 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Darkslick Shores
4 Darksteel Citadel
1 Island
4 Polluted Delta
1 Steam Vents
1 Swamp
2 Watery Grave
1 Batterskull
1 Chalice of the Void
2 Dimir Signet
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Executioner's Capsule
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Pithing Needle
1 Rakdos Signet
1 Sword of the Meek
1 Talisman of Dominance
1 Thopter Foundry
Planeswalker (4)
4 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
3 Galvanic Blast
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Slaughter Pact
1 Smother
3 Thirst for Knowledge
Creature (7)
2 Hangarback Walker
1 Spellskite
3 Trinket Mage
1 Wurmcoil Engine
Sorcery (6)
1 Damnation
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize