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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    I will probably be V/LA for the Thanksgiving holiday starting tomorrow up until Monday.
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    @ osi
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Since when do you suspect me? Rofl
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    and when you do an Iso arent u suppose to be unbiased?


    Azrael is always biased when he does me. We Have No Bananas?

    -

    I'm trying to parse Killjoy's reaction, here. I can't tell if he's town angry that he's getting run up, or scum angry that his buddy/buddies are jumping on him.
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    you claimed first and under pressure


    Um...no? I claimed under 0 pressure to do so because I wanted you lynched at the time. What is this revisionist history you're touting?

    Quote from Azrael »
    If you have a high-value target as scum like a town-aligned iso, you take it. I didn't take it. That means something. Whatever credit you could expect to get from that move, is outweighed by taking Iso off the table if he were actually town. But given his total absence of concern with scum-hunting...


    "I didn't take the high-value target of Iso, which means something. Except he's not scumhunting, which lowers the value of Iso as a target if I am scum. BUT IT TOTALLY MEANS SOMETHING!"

    ~Az, 2017

    I'm at a loss for words for how we haven't lynched this guy, yet.

    Quote from osieorb18 »
    Not sure what you're looking for...


    Oh, then in that case:

    Unvote, Vote osi
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Funnily enough, Gentleman Johnny claimed Doc (as scum) in the 2016 Invitational, and I still strongly advocated his lynch immediately afterwards; Az was in that game and it should come as no surprise that I would advocate his lynch after his Doc claim.
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from Iso »
    osi/Killjoy/Phoenix/Az
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    Quote from Iso »
    Can you show me an example of couple of times you have done this as town, before?


    Grabbed no more than three posts from each of the games I looked at. I also just tend to do this as a person, as I'd figure you'd be aware...

    Avalon #1

    Avalon #2

    Avalon #3

    ~~~

    Revolution #1

    Revolution #2

    ~~~

    Arguably, co-modding on Russian Roulette.

    ~~~

    Died too quickly in the other games I looked at, I guess. Didn't really look at Horsemen or Silver's ongoing game, though.


    I looked at the posts in question and that doesn't really seem like the same characteristic I'm seeing, here.
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Actually, I kind of want a masslcaim toDay.
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    @Last:

    Can I answer some version of these questions after Iso answers?

    @Iso (and anyone else):

    I'm around for at least some of the next hour and a half. Feel free to hit me up with questions/comments/concerns/desires/shading/puzzles/food/drink/etc.


    I'm going on lunch, you might be SOL if you want to interact with me today.

    Quote from osieorb18 »
    Quote from Iso »
    but I think his sudden invigoration with the attempt to take the reins of the game is alarmingly uncharacteristic.


    I like taking charge of things that I probably shouldn't. Tends to get me in trouble some, too, though.


    Can you show me an example of couple of times you have done this as town, before?
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Iso
    1 Probably a loaded question, but do you think there is a world where me, dawn, and shin are all town?
    2. Why am I a town read from you now?
    3. What do you think of Osie's push on me...
    4. Do you still want Az to die today?


    1. Yeah, I think that's possible. Possibly likely, even.
    2. Eh. I'm still iffy on it but there's not a whole lot of guile in your actions. You just sort of seem to vomit words until you insert your foot into your mouth to stop the leakage but it doesn't seem malicious, I guess. It's often difficult for me to read players who post a lot of drivel because I just assume they're scum looking like they're trying to be busy or something.
    3. Shrugs I haven't read too much on it, but I think his sudden invigoration with the attempt to take the reins of the game is alarmingly uncharacteristic.
    4. I'm not as hardlined about it as I was when the Day started but I would still prefer it.

    (Isn't there a way to check post totals in thread?)


    Click on the number of posts in the thread from the Mafia area and it should give you a count of who has how many posts.
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Iso
    What do you want to talk about? I am all ears right now...


    *****, I dunno. Got any questions for me regarding my view of the gamestate?
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from Iso »
    Here's another relevant post from an old game:

    Quote from Iso »
    Quote from Azrael »
    Quote from Iso »

    Based on this and your responses to Nacho and Chris, I...don't think you're actually reading the game any more. Slant


    I never stop reading and reconsidering. But at present, nobody is engaging me with reads that seem more attractive or well-thought out than what I'm working with already. Soon as that happens, I'll happily change my tune. As always.


    You're giving me the ultimatum of "conjure a long-winded post that will take several hours to complete or I will vote town until the end of the Day." No. I'm not playing this game that way. Explain why my reads are unconvincing to you and we'll dance but I'm not going to make this game a miserable slog for myself by putting forth the effort to hand-hold everyone else to the correct conclusion by being the singularity of effort, here. That is the easiest way to get me to check out of a game and I am not interested, because it will literally go the way of Stargate (except maybe minus the scum gambit to get me mislynched) and ZDS's Normal. I'll have solved the game and I won't want to engage with ANYONE at length after that because my effort meter will be fully expended after that. I refuse to inconvenience myself based upon your preconceived notions of how townIso should play based on how townIso HAS played, simply because those are the methods I've used before to the best results. And as Newcomb said before, that's just a blowout and no fun for anybody else.

    So, I'm not breaking this entire game down just to explain my worldview. If you want me to try to convince you, you need to attack the ideas I've expressed based on the evidence in this thread - not dismiss them on meta reads that have quite frankly never been effective in reading experienced players such as myself or Eco.

    Please feel free to engage me in discourse on my stated arguments. Smile Thanks!
    but were you scum tho? Lol


    nope

    -

    I'm in a slightly better mood about this game after reading over my posts in the 2016 Invitational. Anyone want to chat about what's going on?
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Here's another relevant post from an old game:

    Quote from Iso »
    Quote from Azrael »
    Quote from Iso »

    Based on this and your responses to Nacho and Chris, I...don't think you're actually reading the game any more. Slant


    I never stop reading and reconsidering. But at present, nobody is engaging me with reads that seem more attractive or well-thought out than what I'm working with already. Soon as that happens, I'll happily change my tune. As always.


    You're giving me the ultimatum of "conjure a long-winded post that will take several hours to complete or I will vote town until the end of the Day." No. I'm not playing this game that way. Explain why my reads are unconvincing to you and we'll dance but I'm not going to make this game a miserable slog for myself by putting forth the effort to hand-hold everyone else to the correct conclusion by being the singularity of effort, here. That is the easiest way to get me to check out of a game and I am not interested, because it will literally go the way of Stargate (except maybe minus the scum gambit to get me mislynched) and ZDS's Normal. I'll have solved the game and I won't want to engage with ANYONE at length after that because my effort meter will be fully expended after that. I refuse to inconvenience myself based upon your preconceived notions of how townIso should play based on how townIso HAS played, simply because those are the methods I've used before to the best results. And as Newcomb said before, that's just a blowout and no fun for anybody else.

    So, I'm not breaking this entire game down just to explain my worldview. If you want me to try to convince you, you need to attack the ideas I've expressed based on the evidence in this thread - not dismiss them on meta reads that have quite frankly never been effective in reading experienced players such as myself or Eco.

    Please feel free to engage me in discourse on my stated arguments. Smile Thanks!
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    err, *LW is town

    I should probably stop typing Mafia posts while on calls at work.
    Posted in: Mafia
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