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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    Town
    Grape
    Jenna
    Tubba
    Killjoy

    Colin
    Tau

    Pizza
    Dota
    Scum
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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    Tau, Tubba, I need you both with me.

    None of KJ, Jenna, or Grape are voting for grape, I can't expect any of them to vote that way when they can get a no lynch by not doing so.

    Grape is outed in every universe except one where town had 2 vigilantes and at least 2 of Colin, Pizza, and Dota are wolves, otherwise the game already ended in a wolfy hammer and town lost.

    Pizza and Dota are solid townies. Colin is likely a townie. There are not 2 wolves on Grape and not 2 town vigilantes in any game this size ever.

    Let's make like a pizza and roll, can't risk any other vote.

    Ohhh hey Pizza's finally describing the real world. Being entirely wrong about Colin was painful (and it still could be KJ, but that last slot can wait), but c'est la vie. Like I can respect all the effort he's putting into trying to force this lynch through and win the game but I am a vig and I'm not going to let Pizza win off my mislynch this easily.

    He's still insisting, on his baseless fear mongering, that a no lynch will end the game which has no basis in anything other than pressuring town to force a lynch through today.
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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    @Dota I've been reading his posts. But I don't think that he would have moved as town in that circumstance. Yes town was dragging their feet but there weren't many hard town reads on me at that stage. Just a bunch of I'd rather do x, y, or z's. If Pizza is town and is that sure of my scumminess then forcing the issue and not giving his vote makes more sense than going to his third scum read (which he claimed was strong) which had heavily lurked. He was confident enough to call me openly howling, that isn't the time to compromise. He did it because he thought he could mislynch me today.

    @Jenna What do you see as townie about Dota? Because I don't see it at all. And I've outlined my case on him multiple times.

    @Tubba He was trying. Effort hides a lot of sins. Once the PoE shrank by 2 and I really buckled down I decided his play just couldn't be blustering town. His initial hard town read of Dota was a red flag but it looked like it could be legitimate. As did his textless scum read of me that really turned out to be more about Bear than myself. They pinged me, but I thought he was town because that level of energy and engagement is hard to fake. But as it kept playing out it became clear that he was scum. His aforementioned unnecessary switch to Megs, his moving the goal posts on me, his almost entirely opaque read of Dota. None of those are real reads that make any sort of sense. Throw in the bluster and theatrics and I am convinced he's a wolf.
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  • posted a message on Haiku Mafia Sign-ups (9/12) - Or maybe just nine.
    Players are hot fire
    So it should be heaps fun
    So hurry up join!
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  • posted a message on Haiku Mafia Sign-ups (9/12) - Or maybe just nine.
    Spectate is for me
    Restrictions make me frown
    So sitting out suits
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    Quote from Reaverb Tau »
    I'll post soon, sorry.

    Once again, still really sure it's grape/jenna, feel like I need to look at pizza/dota to be through. Will do that before Day ends.

    Please do, Pizza being willing to audible to Megs yesterday makes no sense given the level of conviction he'd been expressing in his read on me.
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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    Pizza is still scum, I'd only move my vote to dota. People are convinced I'm scum and not asking me questions. I don't know what else to do. I'm as convinced Pizza is scum as he's pretending to be about me.
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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    Nobody wants to talk about the fact that Pizza chose to lynch Megs over me yesterday?
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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    @Tau @Colin @Tubba @KJ @Jenna I implore you to actually read Pizza's walls and see that he's not making a case against me. He knows that I'm vulnerable because of my role and he's trying to push for the win now.

    His fearmongering about No Lynching ending the game is just that. There is zero reason to think the scum team has an extra kill or that the game will end if we No Lynch. And if you want to keep your town circle and lynch caught scum fine, but own it. And he just keeps adding the extra level of persuasion that screams fake. His town read on Dota is completely opaque and not explained at all. Because he decided to paint me as hard scum (but decided he was happy lynching elsewhere yesterday) he's just saying my push on Dota and 121 is enough proof. Well go read Dota! Go read my 498 Dota is anything but a paragon of towniness. It's just completely untrue.

    And again he's been saying I'm outed scum almost since he start posting but he voted for Megs. Why? So he could leave me alive to be the final mislynch and still have all the hard work he'd done setting me up to be a mislynch already out in the thread. It would be much harder for him to keep Dota alive and push the final mislynch through if I die yesterDay.
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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    I am a strong believer in always firing N1 as a vig. And I don't have to read all of Jenna's posts to decide that she is opaque.

    Anyway Pizza is playing a masterful scum game and wanting it more and posting harder than anyone else. But that doesn't make him town. Dota is still clearly scum and Pizza's outed too.
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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    Quote from Tubba Fett »
    what do you think about Jenna, Grape?
    I've been expressing suspicion of Pizza and been largely ignored, why when there's pressure on you that Pizza starts to seem scummy?

    Yesterday I was so tunneled on Dota that I didn't realize how scummy Pizza was as well. I was glossing over his long posts and just focused on getting Dota lynched. Him being so gung-ho about my lynch today helped open my eyes. I could see Jenna being scum, but I'm not convinced by it. More solid on Dota/Pizza though Jenna makes sense.
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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    Vote: AskThePizzaGuy
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  • posted a message on It Was a Dark and Stormy Night; Day 4 - Stolen Time]
    Pizza just has to be scum here. Right now my shot failing on Jenna is completely unexplained and the simplest explanation is that Pizza's weird cassarole of abilities is responsible. His push on took so long to be explained and was contradictory (initially my ISO was howling but then it's actually mostly Bear who was scummy after he finally makes the case) feels like he is finding the facts after he's making the case.

    If you want to mislynch me because I happen to have the same role as Megs then more power to you, but try to look beyond that. Dota is scum by behavior as I outlined yesterday and Pizza is scum for trying to hotrod this lynch through early. Note how he decided it was time to vote once people actually agreed to his interrogation experience. He doesn't actually want to solve the game, he just wants to mislynch me.
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    ok...

    if Grape flips scum: Iso/Osie/Shinichi/??
    if Grape flips town: Azrael/Tom/Last/??

    idk: Jenna/Megiddo/Kaba

    Maybe DBS is scum because that is not remotely where you should look when I flip town. Well Az is but Osie and KJ look much worse for pushing me than Wisp. He's just been scummy on his own. With the proof of my flip Az is a much better lynch target.
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  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Huh expected the flip by now. Not trolling. My flip will explain my lack of claim and why I instantly wanted to lynch LnGrrrR.
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