MTG Salvation

Hmm, practically a Green Sorcery speed Anticipate that's a permanent and filters mana for Walkers. Maybe we'll see Super Friends in standard.

Standard's best counter to Dromoka's Command.

this card should totally be able to draw enchantments, definitely makes serra's sanctum pretty fun being able to cast jace, the mind sculptor

Do yourself a favor and look up "card advantage" in the mtgsalvation gamepedia. I think you're misunderstanding the concept.

Do you think Brainstorm is card advantage? Or Ponder? No, it's card filter. You use one card to get one card back. Like, it's not even an opinion if a card like Sleight of Hand is card advantage, because it isn't even in the slightest. You pay one mana to cast a card (Using a card) to look at two cards to put one in your hand (to replace the card you used) and putting one on the bottom of the library. There's no point in which you gain more cards in your hand than you did before using this card. Like, if you're a control player, you need to have a very basic and fundamental understanding of card filter and card advantage. We use these cards to find what we need at a certain situation or at least help us find them. That's why scry is such a powerful effect when digging through a deck. Of course it isn't a card in hand that can help us immediately but it helps us have ones we want more often and get rid of ones we don't want.

My points aren't specific, they're legitimate cases that will happen with this card and who is going to use it. Not some really awfully drawn out scenario to make this card seem worse than Sleight of Hand (Which if it's such a good card, why does it only see play in combo decks in Modern and no where else).

Also, I still think you're missing the entire point of this card as well. You're going to play it turn 1 ideally to find a missing land drop or a threat in either a creature or planeswalker. If you're playing it turn one, the chances are you do not need a card like Abzan Charm and if you do, you probably have other ways of finding them through something like Painful Truths or have other ways of dealing with creatures like any well designed deck. Again, my Collected Company comes back around with that even if you build a deck to take advantage of it, you can miss. With this card, the chances of not finding something relevant is low, however it's not a perfect card filter card, but being Green allows it to be in different decks and those decks already play a different way rather than the way you keep suggesting to make it seem worse than it is.

Am I saying this card is the best out there? No way, however I'm realistic in what this card is trying to do in the decks it is in, much like Ajani, Mentor of Heroes and his second +1 ability, the decks that play him, want those cards to be found anyways so it's for those decks, and Abzan in Standard, and even in Modern G/B/x could play this card and the decks run enough ways to shuffle their decks that even for any reason they wanted something they didn't pick or couldn't pick, they can find it again with fetchlands, etc.

I never compared this card to Sleight of Hand, that's not what I am arguing, I'm arguing the bias in your argument and why it's not good to have.

You make some good points, but I feel like you're getting very specific, whereas my main point is that on the very surface (no matter what format, don't forget limited), this card doesn't match the power level of sleight of hand. Sorry, I'm mainly a control player so Sleight is near and dear to my heart

But you're right, you could easily run this card in Abzan Aggro, I just hope you don't miss that Abzan Charm that you need to take out a big threat or allow you to draw cards. I wouldn't take that chance. I would only play this card in a constructed deck if I knew that the abilities were going to be fully utilized and there was absolutely no downside to playing the card.

So you're saying that playing a card for an ability and also drawing a card is the same as just playing a card for an ability and not drawing a card from it? I don't agree with you. This card does indeed offer card advantage. It sounds like your saying that sleight of hand doesn't give card advantage.

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@rotfeast

The deck that is playing this isn't going to be running a board wipe. Like, realistically think what decks in standard are going to be using this? The ones that run mostly creatures like Abzan and G/R Eldrazi Ramp. If anything this card is closest to Peer Through Depths. Sure it doesn't see five cards, isn't instant speed, but it also isn't two mana and only finds an Instant or Sorcery (which the people who run that card aren't complaining about because the people who run this card are using it to filter and find guess what? An instant or a sorcery card!) This card is extremely good in the decks that want it, which is decks that run off of a high density of creatures and/or planeswalkers.

It's just that your example is almost completely corner case and poor deck design for the people who are going to be running this card, and secondly it isn't really a build around card, it can be slotted into any Abzan Aggro list with little to no ease. Can it miss? Sure, can Collected Company miss in a high density creature list? Absolutely. Last, it's not card advantage, you play a card and get a single card from it, card advantage is using a single card to get two or more cards worth of value out of it like Divination or Kolaghan's Command.

I wouldn't compare this to sleight of hand - or anticipate for that matter... It's close but not nearly as powerful simply because a), it's an enchantment, b) It's very limiting in terms of the type of card you can actually put in your hand. What if you desperately need a board wipe (etc)? You draw it with this enchantment and your double screwed because it's going all the way to the bottom of your library!! Yikes. Looks like a card with build-around potential, but for me it's not anywhere in the realm of power when compared to sleight. Just my two cents! Definitely agree that it's a nice little card advantage trick for Green if it's in the right deck that fully utilizes the abilities!

is it bad my first thought was "oh cool, landless vintage walker deck"