It eans I generally put more faith in his reads than in others. Parts of my reads are based off of other reads, I consider all sides of all issues, then I post blunt thoughts.
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AE surfaces. Hooray! This still isn't the AE that I remember, but if memory serves, AE was very well spoken and engaged in the game we shared because things were moving and he was in the middle of it all.
If I was declared "cleared" and totally left alone in this game, I'd probably fade out too.
In any case, re-reading AE doesn't seem to indicate a thing one way of the other, so I'm inclined to look elsewhere too.
@Alpha:
What was the issue with the iLord post you quoted? I guess I'm not following you there. What's the post number for that?
Even if you don't notice Vezok being lynched, what other reason is there to bring this up at this stage of the game?
Feels entirely disingenuous.
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It came to mind. That was reason enough for me.
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I'm Jayalun, Prince of the Extremes, Elemental of the Equinox. I have two abilities. The first one is a summer ability that empowers any summer actions my target makes. The second is the same, but for winter. I used the first one on Wessel last night. I received confirmation that my ability went through, but not whether or not Wessel actually took any summer actions.
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I'm Jayalun, Prince of the Extremes, Elemental of the Equinox. I have two abilities. The first one is a summer ability that empowers any summer actions my target makes. The second is the same, but for winter. I used the first one on Wessel last night. I received confirmation that my ability went through, but not whether or not Wessel actually took any summer actions.
Equinox is in Spring and Autumn. Solstice is Summer and Winter.
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It's either a lie or awful flavor. Possibly a fake-claim deliberately written poorly so the scum team had something to do (Oh, hey...this claim is a trap...but if I tweak it I'm good...)
...or maybe it's a deliberate mistake going back to what Zindabad's warning about mass claims.
*shakes head*
iLord needs to elaborate on the ability and his choice. Wessel needs to give us feedback.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I did not receive confirmation that iLord targeted me, if that's what you mean. If you're fishing for my ability, I'll have you know that I did indeed have an interaction last night.
Actually, I'm not fishing for anything, but nice half-assed attack you've got going there.
In other words, iLord, according to you, is lying?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
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2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
It's either a lie or awful flavor. Possibly a fake-claim deliberately written poorly so the scum team had something to do (Oh, hey...this claim is a trap...but if I tweak it I'm good...)
...or maybe it's a deliberate mistake going back to what Zindabad's warning about mass claims.
*shakes head*
iLord needs to elaborate on the ability and his choice. Wessel needs to give us feedback.
My role doesn't elaborate any more on what I actually do when I empower an action, but I presume it makes it more powerful, with a specific result for each one.
I was looking for someone who was likely town, who actually had a summer ability (so no one who already mentioned taking an action), and who could be expected to use it rationally. Wessel fit all the criteria.
My role doesn't elaborate any more on what I actually do when I empower an action, but I presume it makes it more powerful, with a specific result for each one.
I was looking for someone who was likely town, who actually had a summer ability (so no one who already mentioned taking an action), and who could be expected to use it rationally. Wessel fit all the criteria.
I really have to wonder why you never asked the mod for clarification of exactly what your role did. Moreover, what would it mean to you to make, say a cop more "powerful"? Or a vig? Knowing that we for sure have a motivator and thus, the roles are VERY unlikely to be the same.
But there are much townier players (Pale Mage) who did not claim using an ability (Pale Mage) and other players (AI, WoD) who made it clear that they have abilities they can use in any season.
@Wessel: Without any extra details, would you call your interaction last night normal? Meaning, did anything special happen? Just a simple yes or no would be great.
The most damning thing to me is that ilord can't explain his own ability. I'm something of a role pm gaffe expert, and even I at least know my own ability.
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Yeah don't worry, arty just doesn't understand a whole lot about mafia theory.
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I really have to wonder why you never asked the mod for clarification of exactly what your role did. Moreover, what would it mean to you to make, say a cop more "powerful"? Or a vig? Knowing that we for sure have a motivator and thus, the roles are VERY unlikely to be the same.
There's no need for clarification. My role does exactly what it says on the tin - it makes the ability of whomever I target more powerful if they use it that night. I don't know how exactly, say if I could use my ability on kpaca, it would make his investigation more powerful, but I could think of a number of plausible ways.
But there are much townier players (Pale Mage) who did not claim using an ability (Pale Mage) and other players (AI, WoD) who made it clear that they have abilities they can use in any season.
Your townie players are not mine. Based on his play today and process of elimination, it is quite likely that Pale Mage is one of the remaining scum. His inquisitive style of play makes it very easy to keep his scum play similar to his town play. Less emotional and more analytic players like him do not show many weaknesses.
Unless I am mistaken, Asian's ability is used during the day, and WoD had not made it clear (and still has not done so) that his ability could be used in any season.
The most damning thing to me is that ilord can't explain his own ability. I'm something of a role pm gaffe expert, and even I at least know my own ability.
I don't quite understand what's lacking from my explanation. The target presumably gets a stronger effect from his ability. Would you have liked for me to provide a list of all the abilities of the game and how my ability would empower them?
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There's no need for clarification. My role does exactly what it says on the tin - it makes the ability of whomever I target more powerful if they use it that night. I don't know how exactly, say if I could use my ability on kpaca, it would make his investigation more powerful, but I could think of a number of plausible ways.
Did you not ask the mod, then?
Your townie players are not mine. Based on his play today and process of elimination, it is quite likely that Pale Mage is one of the remaining scum. His inquisitive style of play makes it very easy to keep his scum play similar to his town play. Less emotional and more analytic players like him do not show many weaknesses.
You didn't target me last night based on my play today? Since that's obviously false, maybe you could elaborate on what made Wessel so townie and what made me no Not in your estimation.
If you've thought I'm such a strong suspect, why haven't you brought it up? It's been a long Day.
Who else is on your scum list at this point?
Unless I am mistaken, Asian's ability is used during the day, and WoD had not made it clear (and still has not done so) that his ability could be used in any season.
Why not Dancing Mad, btw?
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Yeah let's vote art tomorrow.
I don't think he's scum.
I just want him to knock it off.
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Well you're just as useless as the rest of them. Maybe even more so.
If I was declared "cleared" and totally left alone in this game, I'd probably fade out too.
In any case, re-reading AE doesn't seem to indicate a thing one way of the other, so I'm inclined to look elsewhere too.
@Alpha:
What was the issue with the iLord post you quoted? I guess I'm not following you there. What's the post number for that?
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It came to mind. That was reason enough for me.
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I'm Jayalun, Prince of the Extremes, Elemental of the Equinox. I have two abilities. The first one is a summer ability that empowers any summer actions my target makes. The second is the same, but for winter. I used the first one on Wessel last night. I received confirmation that my ability went through, but not whether or not Wessel actually took any summer actions.
My Custom Set: Solescurio
Equinox is in Spring and Autumn. Solstice is Summer and Winter.
:/
...hate that.
Yes
No
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Yeah thats funny. How about voting the obv scum now? You just busted him.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
* kpaca swerves around traffic cone
I'm down to here ilord explain first though.
I want to hear from Wessel before the end of the Day.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
It's either a lie or awful flavor. Possibly a fake-claim deliberately written poorly so the scum team had something to do (Oh, hey...this claim is a trap...but if I tweak it I'm good...)
...or maybe it's a deliberate mistake going back to what Zindabad's warning about mass claims.
*shakes head*
iLord needs to elaborate on the ability and his choice. Wessel needs to give us feedback.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Beat you again, tortoise.
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Void lied about his too. I feel so much better about this lynch, but let's wait to hear from him.
p.s. If he does flip scum, I caught that 3rd person slip way back at the beginning, I will be happy
Equinox: literally equal day and night. Has to do with the seasons and the rotation of the Earth on its axis in relation to the sun, etc.
Can we assume zindabad knows what equinox and solstice mean? Because if we can, we can assume iLord is lying.
Given that I'm the claimed, demonstrated (sort of) Town Motivator, I'd like an answer to this, too.
It isn't just you.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
This one.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The other thing you could do is tell us if you had some sort of interaction last Night, according to a Mod PM or some such.
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In other words, iLord, according to you, is lying?
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also, I advocate pressure on Brinatoo come Day 4.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
These are all good things.
Didn't notice, but you're correct. Evidently our illustrious mod made a mistake, as the flavor makes clear that he means the solstices.
My role doesn't elaborate any more on what I actually do when I empower an action, but I presume it makes it more powerful, with a specific result for each one.
I was looking for someone who was likely town, who actually had a summer ability (so no one who already mentioned taking an action), and who could be expected to use it rationally. Wessel fit all the criteria.
My Custom Set: Solescurio
I really have to wonder why you never asked the mod for clarification of exactly what your role did. Moreover, what would it mean to you to make, say a cop more "powerful"? Or a vig? Knowing that we for sure have a motivator and thus, the roles are VERY unlikely to be the same.
Agreed. You're totally obvscum anyway. #jokeisajoke
But there are much townier players (Pale Mage) who did not claim using an ability (Pale Mage) and other players (AI, WoD) who made it clear that they have abilities they can use in any season.
Well that settles it for me.
@kpaca: How does iLord's explanation affect your opinion of him?
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Yeah don't worry, arty just doesn't understand a whole lot about mafia theory.
That only took 20 episodes of yelling to power up and a bunch of useless banter about secret abilities of alien species.
Yeah I'm pretty sure everything that's been said about iLord covers what I would have wanted to say at this point.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
There's no need for clarification. My role does exactly what it says on the tin - it makes the ability of whomever I target more powerful if they use it that night. I don't know how exactly, say if I could use my ability on kpaca, it would make his investigation more powerful, but I could think of a number of plausible ways.
Your townie players are not mine. Based on his play today and process of elimination, it is quite likely that Pale Mage is one of the remaining scum. His inquisitive style of play makes it very easy to keep his scum play similar to his town play. Less emotional and more analytic players like him do not show many weaknesses.
Unless I am mistaken, Asian's ability is used during the day, and WoD had not made it clear (and still has not done so) that his ability could be used in any season.
I don't quite understand what's lacking from my explanation. The target presumably gets a stronger effect from his ability. Would you have liked for me to provide a list of all the abilities of the game and how my ability would empower them?
My Custom Set: Solescurio
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Yes.
My Custom Set: Solescurio
Did you not ask the mod, then?
You didn't target me last night based on my play today? Since that's obviously false, maybe you could elaborate on what made Wessel so townie and what made me no Not in your estimation.
If you've thought I'm such a strong suspect, why haven't you brought it up? It's been a long Day.
Who else is on your scum list at this point?
Why not Dancing Mad, btw?