MTG Salvation

It eans I generally put more faith in his reads than in others. Parts of my reads are based off of other reads, I consider all sides of all issues, then I post blunt thoughts.

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Yeah let's vote art tomorrow.

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Yeah let's vote art tomorrow.

I don't think he's scum.

I just want him to knock it off.

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I don't think he's scum.

I just want him to knock it off.

Good luck with that

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I don't think he's scum.

I just want him to knock it off.

Well you're just as useless as the rest of them. Maybe even more so.

AE surfaces. Hooray! This still isn't the AE that I remember, but if memory serves, AE was very well spoken and engaged in the game we shared because things were moving and he was in the middle of it all.

If I was declared "cleared" and totally left alone in this game, I'd probably fade out too.

In any case, re-reading AE doesn't seem to indicate a thing one way of the other, so I'm inclined to look elsewhere too.

@Alpha:

What was the issue with the iLord post you quoted? I guess I'm not following you there. What's the post number for that?

--->DJ

AE is a traffic come in this game.

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I can get behind iLord, mainly for this post.



Even if you don't notice Vezok being lynched, what other reason is there to bring this up at this stage of the game?

Feels entirely disingenuous.

Unvote, Vote: iLord

It came to mind. That was reason enough for me.

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I'm Jayalun, Prince of the Extremes, Elemental of the Equinox. I have two abilities. The first one is a summer ability that empowers any summer actions my target makes. The second is the same, but for winter. I used the first one on Wessel last night. I received confirmation that my ability went through, but not whether or not Wessel actually took any summer actions.

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It came to mind. That was reason enough for me.

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I'm Jayalun, Prince of the Extremes, Elemental of the Equinox. I have two abilities. The first one is a summer ability that empowers any summer actions my target makes. The second is the same, but for winter. I used the first one on Wessel last night. I received confirmation that my ability went through, but not whether or not Wessel actually took any summer actions.

Equinox is in Spring and Autumn. Solstice is Summer and Winter.

:/

...hate that.

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FTR: AE reads like bored, cleared town to me.

Yes

@AE: Were you in the last Clan Contest Mafia?

No

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Equinox is in Spring and Autumn. Solstice is Summer and Winter.

:/

...hate that.

Yeah thats funny. How about voting the obv scum now? You just busted him.

Yeah, I'm good for him to drop on that. His scum game has picked up a bit.

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Yeah thats funny. How about voting the obv scum now? You just busted him.

* kpaca swerves around traffic cone

But really, I'm glad you pointed that out pm, because I have no idea when an equinox is.

I'm down to here ilord explain first though.

That's just such a terrible thing to lie about.


I want to hear from Wessel before the end of the Day.

We can't assume he's lying yet.

What does "empower" mean, anyway?

Beat me to it, PM.

Exactly, we need to hear more from ilord.

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We can't assume he's lying yet.

It's either a lie or awful flavor. Possibly a fake-claim deliberately written poorly so the scum team had something to do (Oh, hey...this claim is a trap...but if I tweak it I'm good...)

...or maybe it's a deliberate mistake going back to what Zindabad's warning about mass claims.

*shakes head*

iLord needs to elaborate on the ability and his choice. Wessel needs to give us feedback.

Maybe it's just me but I'd also like to hear from Wessel.

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Maybe it's just me but I'd also like to hear from Wessel.

Beat you again, tortoise.

Slow and steady wins the race.

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Equinox is in Spring and Autumn. Solstice is Summer and Winter.

:/

...hate that.

Void lied about his too. I feel so much better about this lynch, but let's wait to hear from him.

p.s. If he does flip scum, I caught that 3rd person slip way back at the beginning, I will be happy

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* kpaca swerves around traffic cone

Awesome.

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But really, I'm glad you pointed that out pm, because I have no idea when an equinox is.

I'm down to here ilord explain first though.

Equinox: literally equal day and night. Has to do with the seasons and the rotation of the Earth on its axis in relation to the sun, etc.

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We can't assume he's lying yet.

Can we assume zindabad knows what equinox and solstice mean? Because if we can, we can assume iLord is lying.

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What does "empower" mean, anyway?

Given that I'm the claimed, demonstrated (sort of) Town Motivator, I'd like an answer to this, too.

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Maybe it's just me but I'd also like to hear from Wessel.

It isn't just you.

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that 3rd person slip way back at the beginning

?? Whassat?

The whole thing with the Zas dialogue in the beginning. I may have highlighted it in my iLord case somewhere.

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You think DRey taking Zas seriously is suspicious?

This one.

We cannot assume he is lying until after he responds. Patience my good man.

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Why target me? Also, what does 'empower' mean?

The other thing you could do is tell us if you had some sort of interaction last Night, according to a Mod PM or some such.

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I did not receive confirmation that iLord targeted me, if that's what you mean. If you're fishing for my ability, I'll have you know that I did indeed have an interaction last night.

Actually, I'm not fishing for anything, but nice half-assed attack you've got going there.

In other words, iLord, according to you, is lying?

Did anything "empowered" happen with your ability, Sir Wessel? At least that you're aware of?

I, too, would like to know, "Why Wessel?" =o

Also, I advocate pressure on Brinatoo come Day 4.

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I, too, would like to know, "Why Wessel?" =o

Also, I advocate pressure on Brinatoo come Day 4.

These are all good things.

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Equinox is in Spring and Autumn. Solstice is Summer and Winter.

:/

...hate that.

Didn't notice, but you're correct. Evidently our illustrious mod made a mistake, as the flavor makes clear that he means the solstices.

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It's either a lie or awful flavor. Possibly a fake-claim deliberately written poorly so the scum team had something to do (Oh, hey...this claim is a trap...but if I tweak it I'm good...)

...or maybe it's a deliberate mistake going back to what Zindabad's warning about mass claims.

*shakes head*

iLord needs to elaborate on the ability and his choice. Wessel needs to give us feedback.

My role doesn't elaborate any more on what I actually do when I empower an action, but I presume it makes it more powerful, with a specific result for each one.

I was looking for someone who was likely town, who actually had a summer ability (so no one who already mentioned taking an action), and who could be expected to use it rationally. Wessel fit all the criteria.

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My role doesn't elaborate any more on what I actually do when I empower an action, but I presume it makes it more powerful, with a specific result for each one.

I was looking for someone who was likely town, who actually had a summer ability (so no one who already mentioned taking an action), and who could be expected to use it rationally. Wessel fit all the criteria.

I really have to wonder why you never asked the mod for clarification of exactly what your role did. Moreover, what would it mean to you to make, say a cop more "powerful"? Or a vig? Knowing that we for sure have a motivator and thus, the roles are VERY unlikely to be the same.

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Thanks. My thoughts exactly. Also, I call b/s on iLord's reasoning for targeting me.

Agreed. You're totally obvscum anyway. #jokeisajoke

But there are much townier players (Pale Mage) who did not claim using an ability (Pale Mage) and other players (AI, WoD) who made it clear that they have abilities they can use in any season.

@Wessel: Without any extra details, would you call your interaction last night normal? Meaning, did anything special happen? Just a simple yes or no would be great.

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Yes, it was normal.

Well that settles it for me.

@kpaca: How does iLord's explanation affect your opinion of him?

The most damning thing to me is that ilord can't explain his own ability. I'm something of a role pm gaffe expert, and even I at least know my own ability.

And im comfortable enough to unvote, vote ilord

That's L-1. iLord, do you have any reads to share with us before the hammer is dropped?

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That's L-1. iLord, do you have any reads to share with us before the hammer is dropped?

You are an eternal optimist. I envy that in you.

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You are an eternal optimist. I envy that in you.

All reads, whether from scum, town, noobs, vets, or people with a skewed sense of reality have some information that can be gleaned from them. All information is valuable.

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All reads, whether from scum, town, noobs, vets, or people with a skewed sense of reality have some information that can be gleaned from them. All information is valuable.

Yeah don't worry, arty just doesn't understand a whole lot about mafia theory.

Hooray, we're finally lynching iLord.

That only took 20 episodes of yelling to power up and a bunch of useless banter about secret abilities of alien species.

Yeah I'm pretty sure everything that's been said about iLord covers what I would have wanted to say at this point.

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I really have to wonder why you never asked the mod for clarification of exactly what your role did. Moreover, what would it mean to you to make, say a cop more "powerful"? Or a vig? Knowing that we for sure have a motivator and thus, the roles are VERY unlikely to be the same.

There's no need for clarification. My role does exactly what it says on the tin - it makes the ability of whomever I target more powerful if they use it that night. I don't know how exactly, say if I could use my ability on kpaca, it would make his investigation more powerful, but I could think of a number of plausible ways.

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Agreed. You're totally obvscum anyway. #jokeisajoke

But there are much townier players (Pale Mage) who did not claim using an ability (Pale Mage) and other players (AI, WoD) who made it clear that they have abilities they can use in any season.

Your townie players are not mine. Based on his play today and process of elimination, it is quite likely that Pale Mage is one of the remaining scum. His inquisitive style of play makes it very easy to keep his scum play similar to his town play. Less emotional and more analytic players like him do not show many weaknesses.

Unless I am mistaken, Asian's ability is used during the day, and WoD had not made it clear (and still has not done so) that his ability could be used in any season.

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The most damning thing to me is that ilord can't explain his own ability. I'm something of a role pm gaffe expert, and even I at least know my own ability.

I don't quite understand what's lacking from my explanation. The target presumably gets a stronger effect from his ability. Would you have liked for me to provide a list of all the abilities of the game and how my ability would empower them?

You mean Alpha's ability, iLord?

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You mean Alpha's ability, iLord?

Yes.

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There's no need for clarification. My role does exactly what it says on the tin - it makes the ability of whomever I target more powerful if they use it that night. I don't know how exactly, say if I could use my ability on kpaca, it would make his investigation more powerful, but I could think of a number of plausible ways.

Did you not ask the mod, then?

Your townie players are not mine. Based on his play today and process of elimination, it is quite likely that Pale Mage is one of the remaining scum. His inquisitive style of play makes it very easy to keep his scum play similar to his town play. Less emotional and more analytic players like him do not show many weaknesses.

You didn't target me last night based on my play today? Since that's obviously false, maybe you could elaborate on what made Wessel so townie and what made me no Not in your estimation.

If you've thought I'm such a strong suspect, why haven't you brought it up? It's been a long Day.

Who else is on your scum list at this point?

Unless I am mistaken, Asian's ability is used during the day, and WoD had not made it clear (and still has not done so) that his ability could be used in any season.

Why not Dancing Mad, btw?