2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I targeted DH. The only way that my ability failed is by immunity. DH lied about his immunity.
Couldn't have unless Seppel messed up based on the listed order of moves as AI pointed out.
DH also claims to have watched your shot on AI. I think we have 2 scum right here.
Vote: Iso
Excellent work!
...
Just one problem.
How do you explain the discrepancy between Zionite's claimed target and who was actually revived? Do you seriously propose a three-man scum team in addition to a hitman in a Mini?
How do you explain the discrepancy between Zionite's claimed target and who was actually revived? Do you seriously propose a three-man scum team in addition to a hitman in a Mini?
I really wish the rest of the town was playing better because now I want to lynch Eron, Wheat_Grinder, Zionite, AI, and Dragonheart.
...and let me guess, that's all that's alive now, right? *Checks*
Oh, Artifice is still around. Hi Art! Solve this game with me.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
How do you explain the discrepancy between Zionite's claimed target and who was actually revived? Do you seriously propose a three-man scum team in addition to a hitman in a Mini?
I don't know. I know based on what's been claimed we have two liars.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I just read the Avatar wiki entry on lightning bending redirection or whatever it was. Zuko can't lightning bend - he can only redirect it. So Wheat may actually not be scum.
However, Eron is still lying. So we need to deal with this.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
What I don't understand is how the hell I was redirected if Eron claims he targeted DH. And if Bloodbending resolves before blocking, how could Eron's ability fail?
I don't think Eron is being truthful. I'll wait to hear what he claims from Seppel.
I should probably say something relevant in case the game is somehow not already over.
Wheat_Grinder and Zionite are obviously scum given their content-less votes. Dragonheart is unlucky (though that was a bad vote to begin with). Eron is probably just bad.
Wait, so it's over? I thought we were only dealing with two scum. Even if Iso flips town now, there should be 2 scum vs 4 town and they can't even kill tonight because of the Eclipse. Seems like a bad play for them, but amazing timing.
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I should probably say something relevant in case the game is somehow not already over.
Wheat_Grinder and Zionite are obviously scum given their content-less votes. Dragonheart is unlucky (though that was a bad vote to begin with). Eron is probably just bad.
You said DH is a bad vote and I'm just bad. What is bad about the vote? He couldnt have role blocked me. You are the one that caught it in the first place.
You said DH is a bad vote and I'm just bad. What is bad about the vote? He couldnt have role blocked me. You are the one that caught it in the first place.
You said DH is a bad vote and I'm just bad. What is bad about the vote? He couldnt have role blocked me. You are the one that caught it in the first place.
Never vote on lylo unless it's completely planned.
Wait, so it's over? I thought we were only dealing with two scum. Even if Iso flips town now, there should be 2 scum vs 4 town and they can't even kill tonight because of the Eclipse. Seems like a bad play for them, but amazing timing.
Considering all of the votes came within the same minute (:facepalm:), it's possible that you are all just unlucky and/or terrible, but the whole thing just seems too pre-planned, especially given the empty votes that one generally only sees right before a scum victory.
You said DH is a bad vote and I'm just bad. What is bad about the vote? He couldnt have role blocked me. You are the one that caught it in the first place.
That doesn't make the lot of you judge, jury, and executioner. There's this thing called "due process." (Ish.)
With a sudden fiery blast, Iso, Firebending Master Iroh is vaporized by all three remaining members of his family.
"You were born a failure and you will die a failure," declares Dragonheart, Firebending Master Fire Lord Azula.
poggydude, Zhao the Invincible looks on with visceral enjoyment as the royal family turns on the last members of the resistance.
EronTheRelentless, Waterbending Master Hama is nothing but a frail old woman now, and Zionite, Firebending Master Phoenix King Ozai almost feels bad for fighting her. "Is this all the resistance has for us?"
"They are weak, and anything weak deserves to be conquered by the strong," replies Wheat_Grinder, Firebending Traitor Zuko, as he delivers the final blow to an exhausted AsianInvasion, Earthbending Master Toph Beifong.
When the dust settles, two girls are found facing each other:
"Oh, hi, Azula!" chirps Artifice 101, Chi Blocking Master Ty Lee, "I didn't expect you to recover so fast! Your aura is so strong today!"
"Ty Lee, you gave me such a shock at the North Pole. I didn't think you would ever become a traitor," Azula responds, "But, since you are a friend, I'll at least make your punishment light: 2,000 years in solitary imprisonment."
Ty Lee pouts, "Azula, you're so mean!"
"I know."
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The Fire Nation Royal Palace, one month later.
"Bravo," mocks Zhao, paying a greeting to Ozai, "I never had a chance to congratulate you during your battle."
Ozai falls to his knees and bows his head in greeting, "Master Zhao the Invincible, it is an honor to see you."
"Spare me your humiliation, Ozai. The entire Fire Nation navy is at my command, and I can sink your little palace at any time. Look at how disheveled you've become, holed up in your own pitiful house."
Ozai's head remains bowed, "If you're not here to kill me, then why have you come?"
"I require assistance from the Fire Nation army. There are loose ends that need to be tied up." Zhao begins pacing, is face contorting in anger, "When I killed the Avatar, something you and your family were never able to do, I made the poor judgment of not wiping out the entire Water Tribes first. As you may already know, the remaining citizens have all fled to Earth Kingdom villages."
Ozai laughs deeply, "You're afraid."
Zhao stops. "What?"
"You're afraid that you may not be Zhao the Invincible. You're afraid that there's one infant out there who may still be able to stop you. You can't penetrate the Earth Kingdom without my help."
From behind the two men, a blue flame begins to hiss, right next to Zhao's neck. "Father," Azula asks, "Is this man bothering you?"
"No," Zhao answers for Ozai, "I was just leaving."
As Zhao turns to walk away, Azula extinguishes her flame, keeping a trained eye on the traitorous commander.
Ozai laughs again once Zhao is gone.
"Father, are you all right?" asks Azula.
"Yes, Azula," Ozai answers, "I just find it dreadfully ironic that the Avatar may be our only hope."
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Avatar Mafia: The Legend of Aang has ended with a Mafia and Hitman victory! Congratulations to Poggydude, Wheat_Grinder, Dragonheart91, and Zionite!
It definitely wasn't unwinnable; we played a very risky game throughout and I got dealt a nasty hand in replacing for pinkfloyd. And we couldn't have won without specifically lynching wheat_grinder; we had no time to kill him and it had to be that day.
EDIT: To be more specific, I had a revive; but specifically for Zuko only. It then recruited him.
I would like to direct all conversation about me breaking my Trust Tell to the Theory and Discussion thread. In addition, I want to point out that I only did so under duress. When the mass claim happened, I tried to hold out but the town and my ally pressured me. I was unwilling to throw the entire game merely to uphold my personal promise.
I would also like to congratulate Seppel on a spectacular game and a well built set-up. Anyone who wishes to complain about the balance needs to become fully aware of everything that went on in the background before doing so. We had to work ourselves to the bone to EARN our third scum member and the town was only so weak because of a lucky shot killing the Avatar in the first Combat. (Which was fired by poggydude btw.)
This game was very swingy, but for most of the game the town actually had the better chance at victory.
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It definitely wasn't unwinnable; we played a very risky game throughout and I got dealt a nasty hand in replacing for pinkfloyd. And we couldn't have won without specifically lynching wheat_grinder; we had no time to kill him and it had to be that day.
EDIT: To be more specific, I had a revive; but specifically for Zuko only. It then recruited him.
Wheat, you replaced in at our strongest moment and just basically cruised to victory with us. We had to figure out who the town were, make Zuko get killed, and revive him without being roleblocked or redirected by Eron's insanely strong ability. It was an incredibly narrow tightrope we walked down to get where we were when you joined the game.
The mass-claim was abysmal for the town and a lucky shot on Aang hurt them a bit. Overall though, it was definitely skill that determined the outcome.
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Yes Seriously AI! We actually pulled that off! I achieved the Legendary Reviver Gambit in this game. And I have to say, the only thing stronger than a Town Reviver, is a Scum Reviver. (Even with the restrictions that Zionite/pinkfloyd had on him.)
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Well...
This story doesn't add up.
Someone is definitely lying, here.
Not necessarily (sp?). I could have targeted someone with an unclaimed immunity.
Seppel told me that my ability succeeded.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
That order of ability resoluti
I targeted DH. The only way that my ability failed is by immunity. DH lied about his immunity.
Couldn't have unless Seppel messed up based on the listed order of moves as AI pointed out.
DH also claims to have watched your shot on AI. I think we have 2 scum right here.
Vote: Iso
Also, DH was very quick to back Iso here.
Excellent work!
...
Just one problem.
How do you explain the discrepancy between Zionite's claimed target and who was actually revived? Do you seriously propose a three-man scum team in addition to a hitman in a Mini?
Why?
Okay...
...and yet you're not voting for the person you supposedly know is lying.
Vote Eron
I really wish the rest of the town was playing better because now I want to lynch Eron, Wheat_Grinder, Zionite, AI, and Dragonheart.
...and let me guess, that's all that's alive now, right? *Checks*
Oh, Artifice is still around. Hi Art! Solve this game with me.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't know. I know based on what's been claimed we have two liars.
You're both lying and I find you more dangerous at the moment.
I had a 1-shot kill and a 1-shot Roleblock.
I have used both.
I am now lightning-immune.
You stated that Dragon is lying - but Dragon says he will never lie in Mafia.
That means Dragon is telling the truth. However, Dragon also doesn't have to be town to tell the truth.
Ergo, you know Dragon isn't lying and you are scum so die.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also, that means that I CAN'T be anti-town, because that means the scum have falseclaims and are firebenders yadda yadda etc.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
However, Eron is still lying. So we need to deal with this.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't think Eron is being truthful. I'll wait to hear what he claims from Seppel.
This means that DH is clear from a immunity standpoint. This doesn't clear Iso as either way my ability would have failed before he could block it.
Confirm Vote Iso
I can't stand by and watch this any longer.
You're next after Iso.
Flaming warning
- atlseal
If it makes you feel better I already did.
<3
Wheat_Grinder and Zionite are obviously scum given their content-less votes. Dragonheart is unlucky (though that was a bad vote to begin with). Eron is probably just bad.
You do realize that if Iso is town and there are three mafia left, if I don't protect the right player tonight, it's game over...right?
Would it kill you to use the "Quote Post" function? I have no idea who you're talking to or what you're talking about.
You said DH is a bad vote and I'm just bad. What is bad about the vote? He couldnt have role blocked me. You are the one that caught it in the first place.
I don't see a problem with this logic.
Confirm vote Iso
Never vote on lylo unless it's completely planned.
Considering all of the votes came within the same minute (:facepalm:), it's possible that you are all just unlucky and/or terrible, but the whole thing just seems too pre-planned, especially given the empty votes that one generally only sees right before a scum victory.
That doesn't make the lot of you judge, jury, and executioner. There's this thing called "due process." (Ish.)
This, though we don't know if it's LyLo because of the presence of the Hitman.
"You were born a failure and you will die a failure," declares Dragonheart, Firebending Master Fire Lord Azula.
poggydude, Zhao the Invincible looks on with visceral enjoyment as the royal family turns on the last members of the resistance.
EronTheRelentless, Waterbending Master Hama is nothing but a frail old woman now, and Zionite, Firebending Master Phoenix King Ozai almost feels bad for fighting her. "Is this all the resistance has for us?"
"They are weak, and anything weak deserves to be conquered by the strong," replies Wheat_Grinder, Firebending Traitor Zuko, as he delivers the final blow to an exhausted AsianInvasion, Earthbending Master Toph Beifong.
When the dust settles, two girls are found facing each other:
"Oh, hi, Azula!" chirps Artifice 101, Chi Blocking Master Ty Lee, "I didn't expect you to recover so fast! Your aura is so strong today!"
"Ty Lee, you gave me such a shock at the North Pole. I didn't think you would ever become a traitor," Azula responds, "But, since you are a friend, I'll at least make your punishment light: 2,000 years in solitary imprisonment."
Ty Lee pouts, "Azula, you're so mean!"
"I know."
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The Fire Nation Royal Palace, one month later.
"Bravo," mocks Zhao, paying a greeting to Ozai, "I never had a chance to congratulate you during your battle."
Ozai falls to his knees and bows his head in greeting, "Master Zhao the Invincible, it is an honor to see you."
"Spare me your humiliation, Ozai. The entire Fire Nation navy is at my command, and I can sink your little palace at any time. Look at how disheveled you've become, holed up in your own pitiful house."
Ozai's head remains bowed, "If you're not here to kill me, then why have you come?"
"I require assistance from the Fire Nation army. There are loose ends that need to be tied up." Zhao begins pacing, is face contorting in anger, "When I killed the Avatar, something you and your family were never able to do, I made the poor judgment of not wiping out the entire Water Tribes first. As you may already know, the remaining citizens have all fled to Earth Kingdom villages."
Ozai laughs deeply, "You're afraid."
Zhao stops. "What?"
"You're afraid that you may not be Zhao the Invincible. You're afraid that there's one infant out there who may still be able to stop you. You can't penetrate the Earth Kingdom without my help."
From behind the two men, a blue flame begins to hiss, right next to Zhao's neck. "Father," Azula asks, "Is this man bothering you?"
"No," Zhao answers for Ozai, "I was just leaving."
As Zhao turns to walk away, Azula extinguishes her flame, keeping a trained eye on the traitorous commander.
Ozai laughs again once Zhao is gone.
"Father, are you all right?" asks Azula.
"Yes, Azula," Ozai answers, "I just find it dreadfully ironic that the Avatar may be our only hope."
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Avatar Mafia: The Legend of Aang has ended with a Mafia and Hitman victory! Congratulations to Poggydude, Wheat_Grinder, Dragonheart91, and Zionite!
That said, I definitely hate you now, Dragonheart.
Oh, and I totally called pinkfloyd/Zionite as scum; should have stuck to my guns I guess.
Thanks to Seppel for hosting.
Also my role was as claimed. I was not a neutral at any point, and was town until I was revived.
EDIT: To be more specific, I had a revive; but specifically for Zuko only. It then recruited him.
Well town did nearly win. Zionite was about to die, and DH was obviously scum if Zionite was.
Still, I agree the setup was in favor of the scum.
I would also like to congratulate Seppel on a spectacular game and a well built set-up. Anyone who wishes to complain about the balance needs to become fully aware of everything that went on in the background before doing so. We had to work ourselves to the bone to EARN our third scum member and the town was only so weak because of a lucky shot killing the Avatar in the first Combat. (Which was fired by poggydude btw.)
This game was very swingy, but for most of the game the town actually had the better chance at victory.
Um...what the hell?
Wow. Seriously?
No words.
The mass-claim was abysmal for the town and a lucky shot on Aang hurt them a bit. Overall though, it was definitely skill that determined the outcome.
I'd love feedback on how to not suck so bad.