First, Russian Dude vs HRG + Haitian. The whole thing was brilliant. Curiously the series of 8 was not as expected, it does not show 8 deaths.
Second, the Hiro plotline. I hated this plotline until the end, when Kensai betrayed Hiro. I love his character.
Third, the Maya + Sylar plotline. Seriously, i love sylar. He's so excellent.
Fourth, Mohinder and Bob: We see how far mohinder will go. Bob looks scared, though he fears Adam Monroe rather than Maury Parkman, which is interesting.
Fifth: Claire and West- That was by far the most innovative way to prank the head cheerleader. A funny line.
Finally: Peter Petrelli- Connection to adam monroe is solidified, he is currently anti-company. Doom coming to NYC and the world again? Interesting.
It looks plague related, so something maya related or shanti related possibly. Seems like a Dark Future e pisode coming next week.
Incidentally, adam monroe is one of the founders of the company (and a likely member of the group of twelve). This is confirmed by the "heroes mobile game". I can't find the pic, but in the game niki finds a short list of some of the founders of the company, which comprises of arther petrelli and angela. petrelli, daniel linderman, maury parkman, and adam monroe
So he was once a founder and now thinks its evil? Interesting.
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great episode I agree with loran's sentiments except for the Claire stuff, she is getting far too reckless but I suppose the I am a teenager so I am stupid and in love. Kensei is so a evil henchman in the future I freaking kno it.
Hell if Hiro wasn't such a beloved character I would have wanted Kensei to kill Hiro and become completely evil but Hiro living is fine.
I am excited about next week, I kno it is technically a retread to do the glimpse of a future thing but last season it was the second best ep of the season (1st is "Company Man") so I have high hopes for this.
All in all really good. Like I said prior HRG doing morally dubious things = AWESOME.
I'm not convinced that Bob's good. I'm also not convinced that Nikki is cured. IMO they took Nikki out and made Jessica the dominant personality. That's the personality they want, the ruthless killer.
I don't see why bob would be concerned with Maury at the moment since Maury hasn't given him his picture with the deathmark on it. Which means Adam Munroe is threat number 3 in this arc.
At least, assuming they're still doing the three part arc this season. Maury, Sylar/Maya, and Munroe.
I'm less than enthused about the episode because I think it's slow and blah blah blah. The Sylar part was decent though. But I AM excited that the future holds only 7% of the population. It makes you wonder if Maya/Sylar killed everyone or if maybe someone got a hold of the Shanti Virus and mutated it to affect people without powers. (leaving only people with powers).
I'm just excited to see Peter using his powers more and more.
But...at the same time that girl he's with is getting on my nerves.
Yet again the West/Claire storyline was boring. I don't like west. And now he's getting claire to do morally questionable things for his own gain. Soon, if this keeps up, Claire's going to have to face the stuff that she's done.
Adam Munroe shows up (kinda). A founder of the company who's presently working against it is fairly interesting in the sense that seems to be a fairly major plot point of this new series. Also brings up an interesting point in the sense of we don't actually know who's driving the company towards these 'evil' deeds. Bob doesn't seem too bad a guy, just browbeaten, Munroe seems out of it, Linderman is dead, Angella Petrelli doesn't seem like she has much authority in the day-to-day workings of the company. There's someone in the company who is driving all this 'greater good' talk, and I don't think we've met them yet.
Also, there's no way in hell that Mohinders partner is Nikki and not Jessica. I also thought 'ok so I know how I can make you realise I'm a nice guy, I'll pair you up with the super-strong insane woman' was a little bizarre.
I really thought Mohinder was toast there. It was really tense for me but I got the sense that Nikki was just gonna snap his neck or something. Glad I was wrong though.
I really thought Mohinder was toast there. It was really tense for me but I got the sense that Nikki was just gonna snap his neck or something. Glad I was wrong though.
My favorite thing that Nikki did in the first season was break people in half. Several times you'd see half a body laying not to far from its other half.
Regarding the future/plague thing, considering the major plot points revolving around Suresh, the Company's experimentation with the virus, and Suresh's warning that such experimentation could mutate the virus and cross it into the general population, I'd say it's 99% probable it's the virus that's responsible for the future epidemic.
I'm still not a fan of West, but at least they did something interesting this week. I'm not particularly thrilled by the whole "everyone in this episode goes down a dark path" theme, but if there's going to be a real danger of Claire & West killing HRG - as the paintint suggests, then she's going to have to get progressively more selfish. I found West's "I can fly. Screw my parents" comment to be rather telling in this regard.
HRG is still an excellent character. Interestingly, putting him back in more of a bad-guy-ish role may be an interesting twist where - by the time the 'Claire & West kill him' prophecy resolves - we might believe he deserves to die.
I didn't buy Bob's little speech about being wrong for one second. I think the company really needs Suresh for some reason and are willing to play some cat and mouse to keep him around. Either that or they're just pushing him a little to get a feel for where they stand with him. I do agree that the sense is Bob is not the head honcho, especially since he always introduces himself as head of operations, which would certainly be a prominent position but not the guy in charge.
I think I would have been happier if Hiro's plot ended tidily. While I do enjoy the 'Hiro's journey' theme, plots driven by preventing space-time paradoxes are notoriously convoluted and annoying.
Overall a decent episode but not my favorite.
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Regarding the future/plague thing, considering the major plot points revolving around Suresh, the Company's experimentation with the virus, and Suresh's warning that such experimentation could mutate the virus and cross it into the general population, I'd say it's 99% probable it's the virus that's responsible for the future epidemic.
I'm still not a fan of West, but at least they did something interesting this week. I'm not particularly thrilled by the whole "everyone in this episode goes down a dark path" theme, but if there's going to be a real danger of Claire & West killing HRG - as the paintint suggests, then she's going to have to get progressively more selfish. I found West's "I can fly. Screw my parents" comment to be rather telling in this regard.
HRG is still an excellent character. Interestingly, putting him back in more of a bad-guy-ish role may be an interesting twist where - by the time the 'Claire & West kill him' prophecy resolves - we might believe he deserves to die.
I didn't buy Bob's little speech about being wrong for one second. I think the company really needs Suresh for some reason and are willing to play some cat and mouse to keep him around. Either that or they're just pushing him a little to get a feel for where they stand with him. I do agree that the sense is Bob is not the head honcho, especially since he always introduces himself as head of operations, which would certainly be a prominent position but not the guy in charge.
I think I would have been happier if Hiro's plot ended tidily. While I do enjoy the 'Hiro's journey' theme, plots driven by preventing space-time paradoxes are notoriously convoluted and annoying.
Overall a decent episode but not my favorite.
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Regarding the future/plague thing, considering the major plot points revolving around Suresh, the Company's experimentation with the virus, and Suresh's warning that such experimentation could mutate the virus and cross it into the general population, I'd say it's 99% probable it's the virus that's responsible for the future epidemic.
I'm still not a fan of West, but at least they did something interesting this week. I'm not particularly thrilled by the whole "everyone in this episode goes down a dark path" theme, but if there's going to be a real danger of Claire & West killing HRG - as the paintint suggests, then she's going to have to get progressively more selfish. I found West's "I can fly. Screw my parents" comment to be rather telling in this regard.
HRG is still an excellent character. Interestingly, putting him back in more of a bad-guy-ish role may be an interesting twist where - by the time the 'Claire & West kill him' prophecy resolves - we might believe he deserves to die.
I didn't buy Bob's little speech about being wrong for one second. I think the company really needs Suresh for some reason and are willing to play some cat and mouse to keep him around. Either that or they're just pushing him a little to get a feel for where they stand with him. I do agree that the sense is Bob is not the head honcho, especially since he always introduces himself as head of operations, which would certainly be a prominent position but not the guy in charge.
I think I would have been happier if Hiro's plot ended tidily. While I do enjoy the 'Hiro's journey' theme, plots driven by preventing space-time paradoxes are notoriously convoluted and annoying.
Overall a decent episode but not my favorite.
Yeah West seemed very Magneto in his delivery of "You're better than them" because you have a power. I like him more the more evil he is. I'm tired of him pretending to be sweet because it comes off as creepy and boring to me. If he were to finally shape up as a villain I'd be more inclined to enjoy his segments.
I wish Sylar would just get his powers back and use his illusions. Then he could impersonate Noah to get close to claire and take her power, at which point West could shoot him in the eye. That'd fulfill the prophecy. But part of me wants to see Maya evil too.
I wish Sylar would just get his powers back and use his illusions. Then he could impersonate Noah to get close to claire and take her power, at which point West could shoot him in the eye. That'd fulfill the prophecy. But part of me wants to see Maya evil too.
Good idea there. It would maintain the prophecy without getting rid of two of the show's best characters (assuming Sylar regenerates).
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If Sylar gets his powers back and can use illusions then he should also have his other powers, which means telekinesis, which means it would be really hard to kill him with a bullet.
I just had a random thought: You know what would be fun? If Claire got her head chopped off at some point and her entire body slowly regrew itself.
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If Sylar gets his powers back and can use illusions then he should also have his other powers, which means telekinesis, which means it would be really hard to kill him with a bullet.
I just had a random thought: You know what would be fun? If Claire got her head chopped off at some point and her entire body slowly regrew itself.
Well yeah he'd have telekinesis but he'd also have to react quickly cuz West would likely be flying in. Though the picture doesn't show if the bullet actually kills the figure on the ground. It could be telekinetically stopped right before his eye.
But it was just at thought.
Well Kraj that would be cool but I'm upset with her whole toe experiment thing. We already knew her toe would grow back. In the first season she stuck her hand in a disposal which cut off some fingers and disfigured the others. She grew her entire hand back. I don't see the problem.
It's pretty cool that she's the ultimate organ donor though lol.
I know the picture of the twelve disproves Kensei as a villain but the possibility of Kensei living thru time manipulating events maybe even manipulating the twelve into joining. It just has such great implications & does so much to Hiro especially if he was the catalyst that wrought this change. Lots of story room there.
But I kno I am reaching now.
On the whole I enjoyed the almost everybody makes a dark choice. I like that Surresh actually choice the good path and didnt compromise himself that badly. Moving forward I really hope they get to a point where it is a group of the "good" heroes vs the company ie Kristen Bell's char., Adam Monroe, etc. It would feed my inner Xmen fan so much.
I am enjoying the morally grey route the show is taking, rather than just splitting them into two teams of goodies vs. baddies. People are all willing to abuse their powers (to various degrees) and it means you never quite know what to expect.
I've been spoiled up to episode 11, can't wait to see it all happens if it goes like rumored. This arc will be incredible.
An interesting thing that just occured to me... just because the stories of Kensai say such and such happened doesn't mean it actually happened that way. Hiro's journey may somehow be fullfilling history rather than messing it up. ...Just a thought.
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I thought it was interesting what Hiro said about the end of the Samurai. I'll be glad when the past episodes are finished though. How are they going to stop Hiro from using his powers when he wakes up though?
When Kensai refuses to destroy the gunpowder stocks of Whitebeard and save the empire, Hiro goes and sets them all on fire. He and Kensai duel it out, Hiro teleports out, leaving Kensai to get blown up, and laying the groundwork for one massive grudge. Kensai gets credit for Hiro's deed again.
Totally buy what you are saying Kraj. After all, Hiro has already mucked with the past, and it hasn't exploded in his face yet. I'm betting that the Heroes space time continuim can take a lot of twisting and abuse.
I'm betting that the Heroes space time continuim can take a lot of twisting and abuse.
I'll definitely agree with that. In fact, the most interesting part of season 1 for me was the tension between Angela and Linderman's belief in the inevitability of the bomb and the various attempts to change time to stop it from happening. For example, how Hiro changed the event of Sylar killing Claire and gaining her power, but that wasn't enough to stop the bomb. And how even if Peter had died when Claude threw him off the roof Sylar still could have been the one to explode. And, interestingly, how it was ultimately Nathan's choice that had the power to determine the future. And how there's no guarantee that Peter or Sylar or someone else still won't explode. And how now it seems that...
One way or another a major cataclysm is bound to happen and that perhaps Linderman and Angela were right all along; that the heroes don't have the power to save the world from itself and the only thing that can be done is to control how things play out to the best of your ability.
I think it will continue to be a major theme of the show, the tension between individual choices and destiny. The writers have really laid the foundation for some fantastic explorations of these themes. I hope they don't disappoint.
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Adam Munroe is Takeo Kensai. After his betrayal by Hiro, he has spent his considerable lifetime trying to hunt him down. He founded the Company (per the revelation of one of the online games) in order to help track him down. Kaito Nakamura learned of Adam's intentions, and had him imprisoned to prevent him from going after his son. Adam spent years locked up, until the company 'bagged' Peter. Peter met Adam in the prison, where they agreed to take down the company. Peter sprang himself and Adam, and while peter was eventually taken down by the haitian, Adam was able to get out into the world, and start killing the 12 who betrayed him and locked him up. He now has even higher goals: Tricking Peter into releasing the Shanti virus to punish the world.
Adam Munroe is Takeo Kensai. After his betrayal by Hiro, he has spent his considerable lifetime trying to hunt him down. He founded the Company (per the revelation of one of the online games) in order to help track him down. Kaito Nakamura learned of Adam's intentions, and had him imprisoned to prevent him from going after his son. Adam spent years locked up, until the company 'bagged' Peter. Peter met Adam in the prison, where they agreed to take down the company. Peter sprang himself and Adam, and while peter was eventually taken down by the haitian, Adam was able to get out into the world, and start killing the 12 who betrayed him and locked him up. He now has even higher goals: Tricking Peter into releasing the Shanti virus to punish the world.
The founders of the company are in the photo.
Kensei is not in the photo.
We have no proof that Kensei is highlander.
We have much more proof that he is, instead, a regenerator like Clare.
Clare isn't going to live forever.
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My though on the picture seeing my other one on Kenshi is a no it seems.
What if Kenshi took the photo and thats why he is not in there. That make some sence at least. Also I could see Kenshi looking for Hiro all over for revenge thats for sure, but we all know he die seeing Hiro teleport them over a volcano or something.
Amazing episode.
First, Russian Dude vs HRG + Haitian. The whole thing was brilliant. Curiously the series of 8 was not as expected, it does not show 8 deaths.
Second, the Hiro plotline. I hated this plotline until the end, when Kensai betrayed Hiro. I love his character.
Third, the Maya + Sylar plotline. Seriously, i love sylar. He's so excellent.
Fourth, Mohinder and Bob: We see how far mohinder will go. Bob looks scared, though he fears Adam Monroe rather than Maury Parkman, which is interesting.
Fifth: Claire and West- That was by far the most innovative way to prank the head cheerleader. A funny line.
Finally: Peter Petrelli- Connection to adam monroe is solidified, he is currently anti-company. Doom coming to NYC and the world again? Interesting.
It looks plague related, so something maya related or shanti related possibly. Seems like a Dark Future e pisode coming next week.
Incidentally, adam monroe is one of the founders of the company (and a likely member of the group of twelve). This is confirmed by the "heroes mobile game". I can't find the pic, but in the game niki finds a short list of some of the founders of the company, which comprises of arther petrelli and angela. petrelli, daniel linderman, maury parkman, and adam monroe
So he was once a founder and now thinks its evil? Interesting.
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Hell if Hiro wasn't such a beloved character I would have wanted Kensei to kill Hiro and become completely evil but Hiro living is fine.
I am excited about next week, I kno it is technically a retread to do the glimpse of a future thing but last season it was the second best ep of the season (1st is "Company Man") so I have high hopes for this.
All in all really good. Like I said prior HRG doing morally dubious things = AWESOME.
I don't see why bob would be concerned with Maury at the moment since Maury hasn't given him his picture with the deathmark on it. Which means Adam Munroe is threat number 3 in this arc.
At least, assuming they're still doing the three part arc this season. Maury, Sylar/Maya, and Munroe.
I'm less than enthused about the episode because I think it's slow and blah blah blah. The Sylar part was decent though. But I AM excited that the future holds only 7% of the population. It makes you wonder if Maya/Sylar killed everyone or if maybe someone got a hold of the Shanti Virus and mutated it to affect people without powers. (leaving only people with powers).
I'm just excited to see Peter using his powers more and more.
But...at the same time that girl he's with is getting on my nerves.
Yet again the West/Claire storyline was boring. I don't like west. And now he's getting claire to do morally questionable things for his own gain. Soon, if this keeps up, Claire's going to have to face the stuff that she's done.
My favorite thing that Nikki did in the first season was break people in half. Several times you'd see half a body laying not to far from its other half.
I'm still not a fan of West, but at least they did something interesting this week. I'm not particularly thrilled by the whole "everyone in this episode goes down a dark path" theme, but if there's going to be a real danger of Claire & West killing HRG - as the paintint suggests, then she's going to have to get progressively more selfish. I found West's "I can fly. Screw my parents" comment to be rather telling in this regard.
HRG is still an excellent character. Interestingly, putting him back in more of a bad-guy-ish role may be an interesting twist where - by the time the 'Claire & West kill him' prophecy resolves - we might believe he deserves to die.
I didn't buy Bob's little speech about being wrong for one second. I think the company really needs Suresh for some reason and are willing to play some cat and mouse to keep him around. Either that or they're just pushing him a little to get a feel for where they stand with him. I do agree that the sense is Bob is not the head honcho, especially since he always introduces himself as head of operations, which would certainly be a prominent position but not the guy in charge.
I think I would have been happier if Hiro's plot ended tidily. While I do enjoy the 'Hiro's journey' theme, plots driven by preventing space-time paradoxes are notoriously convoluted and annoying.
Overall a decent episode but not my favorite.
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According to the plot synopses I've read, the Hiro arc will be completed within the next two episodes.
I wish Sylar would just get his powers back and use his illusions. Then he could impersonate Noah to get close to claire and take her power, at which point West could shoot him in the eye. That'd fulfill the prophecy. But part of me wants to see Maya evil too.
I just had a random thought: You know what would be fun? If Claire got her head chopped off at some point and her entire body slowly regrew itself.
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But it was just at thought.
Well Kraj that would be cool but I'm upset with her whole toe experiment thing. We already knew her toe would grow back. In the first season she stuck her hand in a disposal which cut off some fingers and disfigured the others. She grew her entire hand back. I don't see the problem.
It's pretty cool that she's the ultimate organ donor though lol.
But I kno I am reaching now.
On the whole I enjoyed the almost everybody makes a dark choice. I like that Surresh actually choice the good path and didnt compromise himself that badly. Moving forward I really hope they get to a point where it is a group of the "good" heroes vs the company ie Kristen Bell's char., Adam Monroe, etc. It would feed my inner Xmen fan so much.
I am enjoying the morally grey route the show is taking, rather than just splitting them into two teams of goodies vs. baddies. People are all willing to abuse their powers (to various degrees) and it means you never quite know what to expect.
I've been spoiled up to episode 11, can't wait to see it all happens if it goes like rumored. This arc will be incredible.
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Totally buy what you are saying Kraj. After all, Hiro has already mucked with the past, and it hasn't exploded in his face yet. I'm betting that the Heroes space time continuim can take a lot of twisting and abuse.
I'll definitely agree with that. In fact, the most interesting part of season 1 for me was the tension between Angela and Linderman's belief in the inevitability of the bomb and the various attempts to change time to stop it from happening. For example, how Hiro changed the event of Sylar killing Claire and gaining her power, but that wasn't enough to stop the bomb. And how even if Peter had died when Claude threw him off the roof Sylar still could have been the one to explode. And, interestingly, how it was ultimately Nathan's choice that had the power to determine the future. And how there's no guarantee that Peter or Sylar or someone else still won't explode. And how now it seems that...
I think it will continue to be a major theme of the show, the tension between individual choices and destiny. The writers have really laid the foundation for some fantastic explorations of these themes. I hope they don't disappoint.
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The founders of the company are in the photo.
Kensei is not in the photo.
We have no proof that Kensei is highlander.
We have much more proof that he is, instead, a regenerator like Clare.
Clare isn't going to live forever.
Either would Kensei.
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