I'm not one to defend Obama, but this wasn't even a real trial. The Reverend does not appear to understand that a "legal" trial doesn't equal a "binding verdict" or one that the federal government must recognize. If the church truly wants to challenge the president, they must take the trial to a government court proceeded by those with the appropriate credentials.
This is news over nothing: just more people trying to attract the attention of the media. -.-
In other news, crazy nitwits playing dress-up have also convicted the Hamburglar, the Cookie Crisp Crook, and the Frito Bandito of sundry snack-related thefts.
Seriously, what about this strikes you as remotely worthy of discussion?
1) Obama is a foreigner muslim that funds hamas, al-qaeda, etc, and shouldn't be president
2) Obama never went to Columbia U, and Columbia U is perpetrating fraud since 1981 in saying that Obama studied there
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"Sometimes, the situation is outracing a threat, sometimes it's ignoring it, and sometimes it involves sideboarding in 4x Hope//Pray." --Doug Linn
Alright, I dug through that website to try to get anything I could from the website, and this is what I think this is all about at this point...
ATLAH has a fundamentalist Christian black church based in NYC; the head, James David Manning, has been investigated by the US Secret Service in past months for undisclosed reasons. This trial that is mentioned is a trial initiated through the church, leveraging many charges against the parties, revolving around this jewel: "Obama was a C.I.A operative who used Columbia University as a cover to go to Pakistan in 1981 when the CIA and the Mujahideen worked together against the Soviet Invasion. Obama supplied arms, logistics, and money using his Muslim background."
The church claims that they have the right to try any person(s) through their own systems, as they feel the 10th amendment gives that power to the people.
OK. I'm done looking at that site; it's just two steps too radical for my blood.
This just looks like nonsense spewed from a random anti-obama reverend. It really is stupid that people think he is funding terrorists and that he really didn't go to college. It's childish and absouletely pointless because he has a degree plus why would he fund terrorists?
When I read the word legal in that rant (for lack of a better word) for the fiftieth time I was completely and utterly lost. Maybe he took a lesson from Clinton, and decided to discuss the merits of the word "legal" instead of the word "is" endlessly just to see how it would pan out.
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I am not sure how long I had been praying, but I heard myself say the word
ATLAH: then the Holy Spirit stopped me. He then said, "see now the word
you have spoken is the new name I have given for the land formerly called
Harlem."
are you sure this site's legit? this seems like some kind of elaborate gag, in which case, YHBT.
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Church can only excommunicate per Corinthians 1 or 2, and hell Obama's not even a part of that reverend's church. That reverend doesn't even have a Biblical argument to stand on. Even using the Anabaptist arguments about having a church based society requires the person to be a part of the church so the elders can deal with the person, and in certain crimes the person is still handed over to the secular authority (i.e. the government) or not even handled by the church.
People like to wave around the Constitution and the Bible a lot, but do they bother even reading it these days? Of course not, and especially the Constitution and laws. The Constitution itself is only a foundational document along side the Federalist Papers, which many people simply do not read.
At best, he could have done a moot court for public display, which actual lawyers and judges might have jumped at and people would have actually learned something from. With just this document, he just antagonizes people during a time when the Fed is paranoid about anti-government groups(and for just reasons).
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Ambition must be made to counteract ambition.
Individualities may form communities, but it is institutions alone that can create a nation.
Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success.
Here is my principle: Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle.
Oh yeah? Well me and my buddies have just tried the appeal to your case and found them not guilty! Since we were not stopped by the police, this must be true, just, legally binding, etc.! What now, crazy people?
Seriously, bad logic is bad. People like this shouldn't be allowed to have such vocal positions...
Not that he shouldn't be allowed to speak his mind, but he's a reverend, right? He leads a church, right? Assuming he is part of a larger denomination in a religion, he likely serves under someone else who leads an even greater area. What I meant was this: If he does serve under a higher authority, that authority should not allow him to keep such an influential position where he can continue to mislead the followers in his church in ways as obviously foolish as this. It really is an embarassment to his entire church.
If he founded and brought his parish to prosperity all by himself, well, then there's not really anything anyone can do about it, but I had assumed that this were not the case when making my previous statement.
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This is news over nothing: just more people trying to attract the attention of the media. -.-
Seriously, what about this strikes you as remotely worthy of discussion?
I don't think anyone knows.
1) Obama is a foreigner muslim that funds hamas, al-qaeda, etc, and shouldn't be president
2) Obama never went to Columbia U, and Columbia U is perpetrating fraud since 1981 in saying that Obama studied there
"Sometimes, the situation is outracing a threat, sometimes it's ignoring it, and sometimes it involves sideboarding in 4x Hope//Pray." --Doug Linn
ATLAH has a fundamentalist Christian black church based in NYC; the head, James David Manning, has been investigated by the US Secret Service in past months for undisclosed reasons. This trial that is mentioned is a trial initiated through the church, leveraging many charges against the parties, revolving around this jewel: "Obama was a C.I.A operative who used Columbia University as a cover to go to Pakistan in 1981 when the CIA and the Mujahideen worked together against the Soviet Invasion. Obama supplied arms, logistics, and money using his Muslim background."
The church claims that they have the right to try any person(s) through their own systems, as they feel the 10th amendment gives that power to the people.
OK. I'm done looking at that site; it's just two steps too radical for my blood.
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This article is perfect evidence.
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On the topic of Moat:
are you sure this site's legit? this seems like some kind of elaborate gag, in which case, YHBT.
People like to wave around the Constitution and the Bible a lot, but do they bother even reading it these days? Of course not, and especially the Constitution and laws. The Constitution itself is only a foundational document along side the Federalist Papers, which many people simply do not read.
At best, he could have done a moot court for public display, which actual lawyers and judges might have jumped at and people would have actually learned something from. With just this document, he just antagonizes people during a time when the Fed is paranoid about anti-government groups(and for just reasons).
Ambition must be made to counteract ambition.
Individualities may form communities, but it is institutions alone that can create a nation.
Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success.
Here is my principle: Taxes shall be levied according to ability to pay. That is the only American principle.
Seriously, bad logic is bad. People like this shouldn't be allowed to have such vocal positions...
Now that actually is their constitutional right.
candidus inperti; si nil, his utere mecum.
Not that he shouldn't be allowed to speak his mind, but he's a reverend, right? He leads a church, right? Assuming he is part of a larger denomination in a religion, he likely serves under someone else who leads an even greater area. What I meant was this: If he does serve under a higher authority, that authority should not allow him to keep such an influential position where he can continue to mislead the followers in his church in ways as obviously foolish as this. It really is an embarassment to his entire church.
If he founded and brought his parish to prosperity all by himself, well, then there's not really anything anyone can do about it, but I had assumed that this were not the case when making my previous statement.