Now, I don't want to talk about an all lemon diet. I would like to ask if it helps or not.
Drinking lemon water (one lemon for half a liter of water) and a balanced diet with exercise. Right now exercise means an hour of walking, so I don't give up too soon.
What are your thoughts? do you have any experience with the lemon?
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Originally posted by mondu_the_fat: One minute you're arguing about meatlof and the next thing you know someone's sex life is being dredged up.
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We use the Legacy B&R list.
My meta consists of combo, control and some aggro / midrange decks.
My group uses proxies, so budget is not an issue. Because of this, things can get out of hand.
I've never heard of lemons causing you to lose weight... (No correlation between lemon consumption and weight loss to be more exact.)
I do keep hearing that lemons do help clean your liver.... I kinda want to know if thats true and if so, whats behind them doing so? I think I know, but want to see myself.
EDIT: Turns out they do, because of Vitamin C. So not really lemos per se... but still lemons do look really good. Lemon water actually reduces fatigue.
Excessive lemon consumption can also have negative effects on your teeth. I've seen it happen. The acid can wear the enamel down over time.
At any rate, no, that's not going to cause any weight loss on its own. At best, the lemon water part of "exercise, eat a balanced diet, and drink lots of lemon water" is just a placebo, something that doesn't really do anything on its own but makes you feel better about the whole process by giving you a simple thing to latch on to. The balanced diet and exercise is what does all the work.
Not too much experience with the lemon. I have however, heard this explained to me with various diet and drink theories.
The only thing that really holds up is that adding lemon juice to your water will give it a different flavor. This can be effective in the instances where you aren't drinking enough water and don't want it to become tiring / boring / hard to do because of the lack of flavor. That's really all there is to it. It adds flavor.
I've also read that the acidity in citrus fruits can slow digestion by a small amount. I think this wouldn't be so much the case if you are just adding the juice to the water as opposed to actually eating the lemon. However, there may be a slight affect.
If anything, if you're drinking more water, you'll be eating less since you're body uses the same "I'm hungry" feeling as when you're becoming dehydrated. It'll also be helpful at helping you realize when you're full of food if you drink a glass of water 10 - 15 minutes before a meal, since it can take up to 20 minutes for your body to relay the "I'm full" signal to you.
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water is the key to this whole thing. The lemon helps clean your system, but in the end that is already processed waste. This still is helpful, but not as much as you could hope. But having fruit in your diet is also very important. One of the most important things in being healthy is a Balanced diet vs exclusion. If you want the perfect weight loss food plan, get a Diabetic eating plan, this is the perfect diet due to portion control and balance as well as lack of some of the things that could really hurt you.
If you're not used to drinking straight water, the lemon could raise your acidity, esp if you are used to drinking acidified stuff like soda or eating tomato sauce.
Basically it could create a stomach buffer and help prevent kidney stones if that's something you deal with.
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There is no magic weight loss solution besides consume less energy and exert more energy. This includes whatever you were told about lemons.
Asking "will drinking lemon water help me lose weight with a balanced diet and exercise" is like asking "will wearing a top hat help me do well on a test if I pay attention in class, study hard, and get enough sleep the night before?"
Check out forum.bodybuilding.com if you want actual advice on how to lose fat.
Balanced, "low-carb" diet with an hour of fast (anything that leaves you winded and unable to hold a conversation but not leaving you gasping for air) walking 3-6x/week with a bunch of push-ups/pull-ups/bw squat 3x/week is more than sufficient for you to lose weight and get into condition.
Add in stadium runs or sprints for about 20-25min to your bw training sessions and you're positively golden.
No need to use lemons that will **** with your teeth through the strong acid.
Keep in mind- The end point is not to lose weight. It is to be healthier and more fit. It is not at all healthy to be a skinny individual. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that weight is everything. Those folks actually tend to be the most unhealthiest people around, because they tend to eat horribly unbalanced diets that they think are balanced and do not get in enough strength/conditioning exercises that properly train your body.
It doesn't take all that much to build appropriate muscle mass and get lean. A bunch of simple (but extremely difficult) bw exercises done with progressively increasing rep/sets will not only make you lose weight, but it will make you healthier and stronger.
Barbell training is by far the most effective in building a proper body, but you can absolutely make a healthy body purely through bw training.
At any rate, no, that's not going to cause any weight loss on its own. At best, the lemon water part of "exercise, eat a balanced diet, and drink lots of lemon water" is just a placebo, something that doesn't really do anything on its own but makes you feel better about the whole process by giving you a simple thing to latch on to. The balanced diet and exercise is what does all the work.
Lemons do cause short term weight loss on thier own. Lemon is a natural diuretic, and causes weight loss through reducing the amount of fluid the body is retaining. It is not the healthiest way to lose weight and the weight loss will only be temporary. As soon as you drink or eat something, your body begins replacing lost fluids and you begin regaining your weight. But saying lemons do not cause weight loss is wrong.
Weight loss will come when you eat healthier foods and exercise regularly.
It sounds like this diet is kind of an ease yourself into healthier eating with lemon water filling the role of flavored drinks. Soda, gatorade, most juice, pre-made iced teas, etc. all have loads more sugar than you need. Eliminating these soft drinks is a good first step to lose weight.
I believe if this helps at all, it will not be because of the lemon, but because of the water. There is no "weight loss secret," but increasing your water intake is the closest you'll come to one. Water will increase your metabolism, and also cause you to eat less, as what we think is hunger is usually dehydration. Not to mention water contains no calories.
My theory is whatever benefit people receive from this is that if you tell them there's something secret and special about lemon water, they'll take the time to drink more water, which means they'll be better hydrated and thus be better able to perform. If they manage to get some vitamin C as well, hey, good for them, they won't get scurvy.
Combine that with nutrition and exercise, and you'll do well.
I barely eat my recommended daily calorie intake, which is around 2500-3000. I usually consume about 1000-1200 maybe 1500. I don't eat sugar and drink sugary drinks. But I eat what I can to be healthier and in smaller portions. I also exercise - right now, walking is what I can realistically do happily.
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Originally posted by mondu_the_fat: One minute you're arguing about meatlof and the next thing you know someone's sex life is being dredged up.
My playgroup: four people total.
We use the Legacy B&R list.
My meta consists of combo, control and some aggro / midrange decks.
My group uses proxies, so budget is not an issue. Because of this, things can get out of hand.
Unless you guys are really tall or exercise a lot, I don't know how you put down 3000 cal and expect to lose weight.
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Lemons do cause short term weight loss on thier own. Lemon is a natural diuretic, and causes weight loss through reducing the amount of fluid the body is retaining. It is not the healthiest way to lose weight and the weight loss will only be temporary. As soon as you drink or eat something, your body begins replacing lost fluids and you begin regaining your weight. But saying lemons do not cause weight loss is wrong.
When most people say weight loss they actually mean fat loss. If we were talking about cutting weight for a wrestling meet or bodybuilding competition, that's the only time water weight really should come into the discussion, but that's clearly not the case here.
There is nothing healthy about dropping 50% of your recommended calorie intake. That's bad. Really bad. You won't lose any real weight that way.
If you insist on going on a severe calorie deficit, then the max reduction should be 500 or so, which is supposed to give you a roughly 1lb/week loss.
Really depends on how much he's exercising. With exercise a 500 calorie consumption deficit is solid, without exercise a 1000 calorie deficit is totally fine, that's ~2lbs/week over the long term. He's definitely eating too little as it is, though.
OP, keep in mind, the body is very complex and finicky when it comes to the regulation of body weight. Don't get discouraged if you step on the scale and you haven't lost any weight in a week, or even if you've put on a few pounds. Water weight, gaining muscle (from resistance exercise if you're doing it) and a billion other factors can mess with that number on the scale. The long-term trend of your fat loss is what's important.
When most people say weight loss they actually mean fat loss. If we were talking about cutting weight for a wrestling meet or bodybuilding competition, that's the only time water weight really should come into the discussion, but that's clearly not the case here.
Umm, I specifically said it can cause short term water weight loss that will be regained once you rehydrate yourself. Don't think I can be more clear than that
I barely eat my recommended daily calorie intake, which is around 2500-3000. I usually consume about 1000-1200 maybe 1500. I don't eat sugar and drink sugary drinks. But I eat what I can to be healthier and in smaller portions. I also exercise - right now, walking is what I can realistically do happily.
I think 1500-2000 is a decent target for weight loss. You will lose weight at those calorie levels. You want your target weight loss to be around 2.5 pounds a week at most.
Umm, I specifically said it can cause short term water weight loss that will be regained once you rehydrate yourself. Don't think I can be more clear than that
I think 1500-2000 is a decent target for weight loss. You will lose weight at those calorie levels. You want your target weight loss to be around 2.5 pounds a week at most.
I was also looking at calorie burned calculators. Now, I hope I'm getting this right: I should do 30-60+ minutes of high intensity cardio. Like walking or running with % incline.
Otherwise it won't work as I want it to.
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Originally posted by mondu_the_fat: One minute you're arguing about meatlof and the next thing you know someone's sex life is being dredged up.
My playgroup: four people total.
We use the Legacy B&R list.
My meta consists of combo, control and some aggro / midrange decks.
My group uses proxies, so budget is not an issue. Because of this, things can get out of hand.
But the only relevant thing is that you walk at a pace that consistently winds you. Basically, you will find it difficult to hold a conversation but not exhausted/capable of doing it for as long as you're supposed to.
If you're losing 2.5lb/week, then you're inevitably going to be losing lean mass as well. You don't want that. You want to be losing fat, not lean mass. Hence the reason why most people say 1lb/week is good.
Unless you're obese, at which point the very act of walking at the above-mentioned pace will make you lose a lot of weight, so long as your diet is at your daily caloric requirement. No need to go at a deficit if you're obese. Just sticking to your daily requirement and walking alone will make you lose weight. It'll be easier on your mind too. You won't be as hungry!
Everything in this post can be expanded on by an article that I suggest to everyone called “The New Science of Weight Lose”.
I've lost significant amounts of weights several times now. Each time was 45+ lbs. Here is a little of what I've done that works.
1. Count Calories. Don't make any excuses and just do it. There is nothing so revealing as knowing exactly how much energy you are consuming. A stat that I've read and endorse is that 75% of all weight you gain or lose will be directly attributed to your diet.
2. Don't do regular cardio. Do interval training. It's a little harder, but you will burn 3x the calories in the same amount of time. I do 31 minutes of cardio 3-4 times a week. 1 minute high, one minute barely moving. You can do this with walking. 1 minute walking as fast as you can (getting your heart rate up if possible) then 1 minute walking very very slowly.
This also fights against losing muscle mass as your body will respond to it more like strnegth training than it does regular cardio.
3. Stop drinking calories unless it's milk or a liquid replacement meal. No pop. No orange juice, no beer, ect. Hearing someone complain about wanting to lose weight then watching them drink a regular Coke makes me crazy. Stop it. Drink diet, or drink water.
4. Stop counting fat grams. I never look at how much fat is in the food I eat unless Im looking to consume some healthy fats and I want to know how much mono or poly-unsaturated fat is in w/e I'm eating. You don't need to even know how much fat is in your food. If you're counting calories, staying within a reasonable limit, and not getting hungry, you will naturally avoid foods with high saturated fat.
5. Count Carbs. High carb foods are to be avoided. As well as anything that has processed sugar. Eating one slice of "white" bread is, to your body, the same thing as eating a couple spoon fulls of sugar. Your body metabolized it quickly causing your blood sugar to rise quickly. Your pancreas gets overworked because it has to compensate. Then your blood sugar crashed. You crash too, and then you get hungry because your body wants to stabilize the now low blood sugar.
Just stop it.
5. Eat a big breakfast and drink lots of water. People that don't eat breakfast are 450% more likely to be overweight. That's because when you wake up your metabolism is in the tank and eating revs it up. Not eating for as short a time as 2-3 hours will put your metabolism in the tank again. That's why people will encourage you to eat 5-6 times a day.
I've given up on telling people to do strength training as most people just won't do it. But it's very good for you. Not only do you burn more calories than doing just cardio, but you reshape you're body while you're at it. Too many people just end up looking like thinner versions of their fat selves.
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Weight loss is deceptively simple: Calories in minus calories out (divided by 3500 kcal for each pound gained). Simple, but governed by instinct, which favors more "calories in", simply because you can never have "calories out" over a lifetime be greater than "calories in".
Now, lemon doesn't help more than any other fruit would, so no.
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I suppose you can use lemons as an appetite suppressant considering the extreme sour taste of it may compel you not to eat anything afterwards. It doesn't actually have anything unique inside that actually burns off weight, though.
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Drinking lemon water (one lemon for half a liter of water) and a balanced diet with exercise. Right now exercise means an hour of walking, so I don't give up too soon.
What are your thoughts? do you have any experience with the lemon?
My playgroup: four people total.
We use the Legacy B&R list.
My meta consists of combo, control and some aggro / midrange decks.
My group uses proxies, so budget is not an issue. Because of this, things can get out of hand.
I do keep hearing that lemons do help clean your liver.... I kinda want to know if thats true and if so, whats behind them doing so? I think I know, but want to see myself.
EDIT: Turns out they do, because of Vitamin C. So not really lemos per se... but still lemons do look really good. Lemon water actually reduces fatigue.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyAt any rate, no, that's not going to cause any weight loss on its own. At best, the lemon water part of "exercise, eat a balanced diet, and drink lots of lemon water" is just a placebo, something that doesn't really do anything on its own but makes you feel better about the whole process by giving you a simple thing to latch on to. The balanced diet and exercise is what does all the work.
The only thing that really holds up is that adding lemon juice to your water will give it a different flavor. This can be effective in the instances where you aren't drinking enough water and don't want it to become tiring / boring / hard to do because of the lack of flavor. That's really all there is to it. It adds flavor.
I've also read that the acidity in citrus fruits can slow digestion by a small amount. I think this wouldn't be so much the case if you are just adding the juice to the water as opposed to actually eating the lemon. However, there may be a slight affect.
If anything, if you're drinking more water, you'll be eating less since you're body uses the same "I'm hungry" feeling as when you're becoming dehydrated. It'll also be helpful at helping you realize when you're full of food if you drink a glass of water 10 - 15 minutes before a meal, since it can take up to 20 minutes for your body to relay the "I'm full" signal to you.
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Basically it could create a stomach buffer and help prevent kidney stones if that's something you deal with.
Asking "will drinking lemon water help me lose weight with a balanced diet and exercise" is like asking "will wearing a top hat help me do well on a test if I pay attention in class, study hard, and get enough sleep the night before?"
Check out forum.bodybuilding.com if you want actual advice on how to lose fat.
Add in stadium runs or sprints for about 20-25min to your bw training sessions and you're positively golden.
No need to use lemons that will **** with your teeth through the strong acid.
Keep in mind- The end point is not to lose weight. It is to be healthier and more fit. It is not at all healthy to be a skinny individual. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking that weight is everything. Those folks actually tend to be the most unhealthiest people around, because they tend to eat horribly unbalanced diets that they think are balanced and do not get in enough strength/conditioning exercises that properly train your body.
It doesn't take all that much to build appropriate muscle mass and get lean. A bunch of simple (but extremely difficult) bw exercises done with progressively increasing rep/sets will not only make you lose weight, but it will make you healthier and stronger.
Barbell training is by far the most effective in building a proper body, but you can absolutely make a healthy body purely through bw training.
Lemons do cause short term weight loss on thier own. Lemon is a natural diuretic, and causes weight loss through reducing the amount of fluid the body is retaining. It is not the healthiest way to lose weight and the weight loss will only be temporary. As soon as you drink or eat something, your body begins replacing lost fluids and you begin regaining your weight. But saying lemons do not cause weight loss is wrong.
Weight loss will come when you eat healthier foods and exercise regularly.
It sounds like this diet is kind of an ease yourself into healthier eating with lemon water filling the role of flavored drinks. Soda, gatorade, most juice, pre-made iced teas, etc. all have loads more sugar than you need. Eliminating these soft drinks is a good first step to lose weight.
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My theory is whatever benefit people receive from this is that if you tell them there's something secret and special about lemon water, they'll take the time to drink more water, which means they'll be better hydrated and thus be better able to perform. If they manage to get some vitamin C as well, hey, good for them, they won't get scurvy.
Combine that with nutrition and exercise, and you'll do well.
My playgroup: four people total.
We use the Legacy B&R list.
My meta consists of combo, control and some aggro / midrange decks.
My group uses proxies, so budget is not an issue. Because of this, things can get out of hand.
There is nothing healthy about dropping 50% of your recommended calorie intake. That's bad. Really bad. You won't lose any real weight that way.
If you insist on going on a severe calorie deficit, then the max reduction should be 500 or so, which is supposed to give you a roughly 1lb/week loss.
When most people say weight loss they actually mean fat loss. If we were talking about cutting weight for a wrestling meet or bodybuilding competition, that's the only time water weight really should come into the discussion, but that's clearly not the case here.
Really depends on how much he's exercising. With exercise a 500 calorie consumption deficit is solid, without exercise a 1000 calorie deficit is totally fine, that's ~2lbs/week over the long term. He's definitely eating too little as it is, though.
OP, keep in mind, the body is very complex and finicky when it comes to the regulation of body weight. Don't get discouraged if you step on the scale and you haven't lost any weight in a week, or even if you've put on a few pounds. Water weight, gaining muscle (from resistance exercise if you're doing it) and a billion other factors can mess with that number on the scale. The long-term trend of your fat loss is what's important.
Umm, I specifically said it can cause short term water weight loss that will be regained once you rehydrate yourself. Don't think I can be more clear than that
I think 1500-2000 is a decent target for weight loss. You will lose weight at those calorie levels. You want your target weight loss to be around 2.5 pounds a week at most.
I was also looking at calorie burned calculators. Now, I hope I'm getting this right: I should do 30-60+ minutes of high intensity cardio. Like walking or running with % incline.
Otherwise it won't work as I want it to.
My playgroup: four people total.
We use the Legacy B&R list.
My meta consists of combo, control and some aggro / midrange decks.
My group uses proxies, so budget is not an issue. Because of this, things can get out of hand.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/get_ripped_get_walking
But the only relevant thing is that you walk at a pace that consistently winds you. Basically, you will find it difficult to hold a conversation but not exhausted/capable of doing it for as long as you're supposed to.
If you're losing 2.5lb/week, then you're inevitably going to be losing lean mass as well. You don't want that. You want to be losing fat, not lean mass. Hence the reason why most people say 1lb/week is good.
Unless you're obese, at which point the very act of walking at the above-mentioned pace will make you lose a lot of weight, so long as your diet is at your daily caloric requirement. No need to go at a deficit if you're obese. Just sticking to your daily requirement and walking alone will make you lose weight. It'll be easier on your mind too. You won't be as hungry!
I've lost significant amounts of weights several times now. Each time was 45+ lbs. Here is a little of what I've done that works.
1. Count Calories. Don't make any excuses and just do it. There is nothing so revealing as knowing exactly how much energy you are consuming. A stat that I've read and endorse is that 75% of all weight you gain or lose will be directly attributed to your diet.
2. Don't do regular cardio. Do interval training. It's a little harder, but you will burn 3x the calories in the same amount of time. I do 31 minutes of cardio 3-4 times a week. 1 minute high, one minute barely moving. You can do this with walking. 1 minute walking as fast as you can (getting your heart rate up if possible) then 1 minute walking very very slowly.
This also fights against losing muscle mass as your body will respond to it more like strnegth training than it does regular cardio.
3. Stop drinking calories unless it's milk or a liquid replacement meal. No pop. No orange juice, no beer, ect. Hearing someone complain about wanting to lose weight then watching them drink a regular Coke makes me crazy. Stop it. Drink diet, or drink water.
4. Stop counting fat grams. I never look at how much fat is in the food I eat unless Im looking to consume some healthy fats and I want to know how much mono or poly-unsaturated fat is in w/e I'm eating. You don't need to even know how much fat is in your food. If you're counting calories, staying within a reasonable limit, and not getting hungry, you will naturally avoid foods with high saturated fat.
5. Count Carbs. High carb foods are to be avoided. As well as anything that has processed sugar. Eating one slice of "white" bread is, to your body, the same thing as eating a couple spoon fulls of sugar. Your body metabolized it quickly causing your blood sugar to rise quickly. Your pancreas gets overworked because it has to compensate. Then your blood sugar crashed. You crash too, and then you get hungry because your body wants to stabilize the now low blood sugar.
Just stop it.
5. Eat a big breakfast and drink lots of water. People that don't eat breakfast are 450% more likely to be overweight. That's because when you wake up your metabolism is in the tank and eating revs it up. Not eating for as short a time as 2-3 hours will put your metabolism in the tank again. That's why people will encourage you to eat 5-6 times a day.
I've given up on telling people to do strength training as most people just won't do it. But it's very good for you. Not only do you burn more calories than doing just cardio, but you reshape you're body while you're at it. Too many people just end up looking like thinner versions of their fat selves.
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Now, lemon doesn't help more than any other fruit would, so no.
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