"Some souls in the Underworld come to despise their afterlives, growing more and more hateful over time. The most malicious, the ones whose hate reaches the level of true evil, become demons. The transformation occurs quickly, in an incredibly painful vortex of black-mana energy. Once it is complete, the demon can, with great effort and risk, fly back over the Rivers That Ring the World and return to the realm of mortals. Demons that survive the journey use their "second lives" in a variety of ways. Some take up residence in remote places, causing animals to flee the area and plants to blacken and die. Others wander, finding opportunities to torment the living along the way."
So Demons were actually humans on Theros!
I wonder if they'll take this one chance and do a female demon? I'm excited the possibility exists for once.
You make a good point and it would be fantastic for them to embrace that.
Sadly, I don't think they're going to. They seem bullheadedly set against gender binaries in certain creatures and it's a shame they won't explore the creativity involved.
They over-sexualize most females. I think we'll be able to tell if the demon has breasts or not (no Ashiok 2.0 please!).
I guess gorgons may be the closest we ever get.
They do? That's news to me.
Let's see... Just for fun, let's stick to the legendary females and the planeswalkers, shall we? Starting with, let's say Innistrad.
Olivia Voldaren - Sure she is pretty, but she is in no way sexualized. Heck, she is downright demure compared to some of the other vampires in Innistrad, of both sexes.
Liliana of the Veil - Ok, one point for sexy. But she's also a very strong and independent woman, she knows she is pretty and she uses it to her advantage. Not really sexualized, but damn sexy.
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben - Fairly attractive, but in no way sexualized. Her art shows her as a strong leader type.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Bruna, Light of Alabaster, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, and Sigarda, Host of Herons - I am putting the four angels together as they are all pretty similarly dressed. They are all pretty, as angels usually are, but they are not really what one would call sexy (well, except possibly Avacyn, goth chicks are hot, its a universal rule), and most certainly not sexualized.
Yeva, Nature's Herald - You're joking, right? Not sexy, definitely not sexualized, but a beautiful and strong woman, with a bear.
Chandra, the Firebrand - Strong, Fiercely Independent, and wearing armor. Yeah, not sexualized. She is hot though, in more ways than one. But being hot is not the same as being sexualized.
Liliana of the Dark Realms - See Liliana of the Veil above. Note that a woman being sexy does not equate her being sexualized. Nor does being aware of ones own attractiveness.
Isperia, Supreme Judge - A heavily armored sphinx. If you find that sexy, there is something seriously wrong with you. >.< Definitely not sexualized.
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice - A fairly average dryad art wise, oh, and wearing clothes. Nothing sexualized about her/them.
Vraska the Unseen - Yeah, that's a Gorgon... She wears what appears to be a dress, not really sexy or sexualized.
Aurelia, the Warleader - Heavily armored arch-angel? Yeah, not sexualized. She is pretty, but then again, pretty much a given for an angel.
Emmara Tandris - Pretty elf is pretty, to bad her card is pretty bad. She wears a lovely white dress, and appears very beautiful. But I would hesitate to call her sexy (Jace would disagree), and definitely not sexualized.
Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch - If she wasn't so scary I'd call her sexy, but something that aggressive is most certainly not sexualized, particularly not in that pose.
Lavinia of the Tenth - Heavily armored warrior, she does have wide hips going for her, and a fairly pretty face. But she ain't sexualized.
Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts - Ok, we can pretty much all agree that Teysa is a very attractive woman. Sexy even. But she has never been sexualized, nor is she in this card.
Chandra, Pyromaster - See Chandra, the Firebrand above. Nothing else to add.
Elspeth, Sun's Champion - Elspeth is quite attractive, and I am not afraid to say so. She is however, also a heavily armored soldier. Yeah, not sexualized.
Anax and Cymede - Cymede is wearing standard garb for the culture and climate. Not really sexy or sexualized. She is pretty though, and it is easy to see one of the reasons Anax fell for her.
Anthousa, Setessan Hero - Standard garb for the climate, a little surprised at the lack of armor. Obviously a talented fighter. It is very hard to be sexy or sexualized when killing minotaurs, so... yeah.
Hythonia the Cruel - Currently my favorite legend in Theros, but I would not call her sexy, and most definitely not sexualized.
Nylea, God of the Hunt - Beautiful in the way that nature is, but not sexy or sexualized. Looks strong and very talented with a bow.
Thassa, God of the Sea - Looks dangerous and unpredictable, clearly beautiful, but neither sexy nor sexualized.
Triad of Fates - Standard garb (again) for the culture and climate, more scary than sexy. Not sexualized.
So... of the above, only one character can be even remotely claimed to be sexualized, and even then she is strong, independent, dangerous, and well aware of her own attractiveness (and would likely be willing to use it to her own advantage). What was your argument again?
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They over-sexualize most females. I think we'll be able to tell if the demon has breasts or not (no Ashiok 2.0 please!).
I guess gorgons may be the closest we ever get.
As Krishnath had stated on the post before me WOTC has surprisingly bit by bit veering away from sexualization these days.
For example, most Angels nowadays are actually covered than their earlier counterparts (although they still suffer from boobplate and boob window syndrome). This is quite evident with the M14 angels with Archangel of Thune and Seraph of the Sword hence I am hoping that a Demoness might actually see print in the future.
There might be some stuff that gets through at times (Koth's Courier comes into mind) but compared them to the amount of sensible portrayals... I won't say Magic these days is overly-sexualized.
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Yeva, Nature's Herald - You're joking, right? Not sexy, definitely not sexualized, but a beautiful and strong woman, with a bear.
"With a bear"
Freaking lol'd
In all seriousness though, I really like that Wizards make (most of) the females rather glorious/attractive yet try not to make that the focus and present them sensibly and seriously.
Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts - Ok, we can pretty much all agree that Teysa is a very attractive woman. Sexy even. But she has never been sexualized, nor is she in this card.
Maybe not the character, but have you seen the art? On both her cards, the guild symbol is a cleavage window.
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben - Fairly attractive, but in no way sexualized. Her art shows her as a strong leader type.
Except for the fact that you can see up her skirt?
Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch - If she wasn't so scary I'd call her sexy, but something that aggressive is most certainly not sexualized, particularly not in that pose.
Might that be because you're not the right audience for the fetish?
Thassa, God of the Sea - Looks dangerous and unpredictable, clearly beautiful, but neither sexy nor sexualized.
You mean other than appearing topless?
There's also the whole boob armor and cleavage thing you missed several times. And I question the validity of sampling only female legends.
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I'm not sure any of your analysis holds weight on this matter, since it seems to be derived from whether your subjectively experience the content as sexualized. It should go without saying that's a non-starter. Nor is it clear that there's a meaningful distinction between "attractive" and "sexualized." In some sense, a character representation that is non-ambiguous about gender is sexualized. To determine whether females are overly sexualized you might compare them to similar representations of males and how likely it is that secondary sexual characteristics and attractiveness are emphasized in one gender vs. another.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
Sexy is subjective, sexualized less so.
Magic's been getting away from sexualized for the most part.
As it turns out, women aren't objects and female characters are capable of existing independently of masturbatory fodder.
Magic isn't the only place where we just see male demons and female angels. Personaly I am always bother by it, as it suggests men are evil and women are good.
It's not that. Satan is "male" and the Virgin Mary (essentially the goddess of Christianity) is female and synonomous with compassion. So females get the angel role and males the demon role. Not to mention men being more prominent in warfare historically and women are seen as more in the nursing and healing light. It's sort of what makes the most sense to the general audience based on traditional Western faiths and storytellings.
It's not that. Satan is "male" and the Virgin Mary (essentially the goddess of Christianity) is female and synonomous with compassion. So females get the angel role and males the demon role. Not to mention men being more prominent in warfare historically and women are seen as more in the nursing and healing light. It's sort of what makes the most sense to the general audience based on traditional Western faiths and storytellings.
All angels were either male or androgyne to start with. Every last named angel is a male, the entire concept of the female angel is a fairly recent invention, very likely pushed by the association of the valkyrian angel popularized since Magic's creation.
Having said that, I do want to let you guys know that this subject might begin to take some nasty turns, so please keep things respectful and mature going forward, okay?
I think they want to explicitly avoid making Succubi, but that doesn't mean they'll never make monstrous female demons. They've already crossed the bridge into Zombie Lady territory.
Maybe not the character, but have you seen the art? On both her cards, the guild symbol is a cleavage window.
Cleavage Window =/= as sexualized. >.<
If it where, then every piece of clothing where you could see the top or bottom of a womans breasts, such as about half of all dresses, swimsuits, and all bikini's would be objectifying women, and that is clearly not the case.
In the same vein: Nudity =/= Sex.
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Satan isn't male. Christian angels, and Satan is just a fallen angel, just like all demons, are all androgenous, neither male nor female. Also the Virgin Mary, which is mainly a catholic thing*, is hardly the only good thing* around. There is Jezus, the apostles and all the other saints (in chatholicism). There are many good male characters in christianity (and actualy all religions).
Personaly the reason angels are female is that angels are often described as extremely beautiful creatures and currently it is not done to describe men as beautiful. In the past noone had a problem with it, but now there is. That is in my opinion the reason why angels are mainly female in current popular culture.
*thing is not the right word, but I can't think of a better one, when I do I will change it.
I know, that's why I wrote "male." Even God himself, who is androgenous is perceived to be male but was only male in human form as Jesus. It's just how people perceive things. I agree that a large part of it pertains to beauty and depicting that best as a female rather than male. But some (not exclusively) feminine qualities like healing, compassion, etc. can be more attributed to White on the color wheel as well. This isn't to say men are not these things, but not traditionally from the focus of stereotypes from the times MTG is cast in that we know from history IN GENERAL.
Anyway, there's already an issue of too few attractive men in MTG and with no male angels, it's almost a reluctance to even portray gorgeous men beyond the handful, or less, that are around in the art (I can think of like 4). So there's still the issue of ignored homo men and hetero women demographic. And also I think it detracts from women to segregate how they can be portrayed. If men can be demons, why not women too?
If it where, then every piece of clothing where you could see the top or bottom of a womans breasts, such as about half of all dresses, swimsuits, and all bikini's would be objectifying women, and that is clearly not the case.
In the same vein: Nudity =/= Sex.
Ah, I totally want to agree with this because it's true, but damned if it wasn't Teysa.
Since, after all, it's the Orzhov guild. The guild known for procuring power and showing force in subtle and underhanded ways. Not quite secretive like the Dimir nor bombastic as the Boros. The cleavage window is almost a perfect metaphor for Orzhovian power against the other guilds and amongst each other.
Of course, with that taken into consideration, it's also an example of a woman using her sexuality as an empowering tool. After all, why would an Orzhovian woman of such pedigree as Teysa be seen subjugated by the will of the patriarchy? Her ENTIRE FLAVOUR AND CHARACTER are built specifically as a foil to the patriarchy represented as the Ghost Council. She subverts everything they try to do and twists them in favour for her own needs.
So... yeah. Teysa is sexualized. But I think y'all are kinda missing the point as to why.
Which segues to demons. The same can be said about female demons. Whether Creative wants to utilize that or not is up to them. Lord knows we have enough splendid examples of empowered women using whatever tools are available to them. And they don't need to be demonic.
there's already an issue of too few attractive men in MTG
*raised eyebrow*
I feel like you haven't noticed because you're not looking.
There are plenty of hunky guys in Magic, it's just not as pushed as it is with the ladies because most Magic players are straight guys.
I feel like you haven't noticed because you're not looking.
There are plenty of hunky guys in Magic, it's just not as pushed as it is with the ladies because most Magic players are straight guys.
I very much agree with this statement. Off the top of my head, I can thinkofafew. And that's just conventional attractiveness--since we're looking for "hunky". There are even more cute and debonair-looking men in the world of Magic.
I feel like you haven't noticed because you're not looking.
There are plenty of hunky guys in Magic, it's just not as pushed as it is with the ladies because most Magic players are straight guys.
Show me five that aren't Jace, Venser, Phalanx Leader, Gerrard Capeshen or Master of Arms.
Remember that burly or excessively muscular looking men aren't attractive.
"Some souls in the Underworld come to despise their afterlives, growing more and more hateful over time. The most malicious, the ones whose hate reaches the level of true evil, become demons. The transformation occurs quickly, in an incredibly painful vortex of black-mana energy. Once it is complete, the demon can, with great effort and risk, fly back over the Rivers That Ring the World and return to the realm of mortals. Demons that survive the journey use their "second lives" in a variety of ways. Some take up residence in remote places, causing animals to flee the area and plants to blacken and die. Others wander, finding opportunities to torment the living along the way."
So Demons were actually humans on Theros!
I wonder if they'll take this one chance and do a female demon? I'm excited the possibility exists for once.
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Standard:
meh.
Modern:
Urzatron GR
Vintage:
Contol-Slaver UBR
EDH:
Drana B
Jhoira UR
Savra BG
Turned into:
Adun Oakenshield BGR
Sharuum BUW
Turned into:
Memnarch U
KiKi-Jiki R
Turned into:
Godo R
Turned into:
Aurelia RW
The Mimeoplasm UBG
Rasputin Dreamweaver UW
Turned into:
Geist of Saint Traft -French 1v1 UW
Nekusar UBR
Sadly, I don't think they're going to. They seem bullheadedly set against gender binaries in certain creatures and it's a shame they won't explore the creativity involved.
...However, the Abhorrent Overlord's come in to play ability can be interpreted as "female", by "birthing" harpies.
Not that I think that was the intention of the card at all.
That said, if they do a creature based of Echidna, and make it a demon, then we'd get a female demon.
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I guess gorgons may be the closest we ever get.
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Standard:
meh.
Modern:
Urzatron GR
Vintage:
Contol-Slaver UBR
EDH:
Drana B
Jhoira UR
Savra BG
Turned into:
Adun Oakenshield BGR
Sharuum BUW
Turned into:
Memnarch U
KiKi-Jiki R
Turned into:
Godo R
Turned into:
Aurelia RW
The Mimeoplasm UBG
Rasputin Dreamweaver UW
Turned into:
Geist of Saint Traft -French 1v1 UW
Nekusar UBR
They do? That's news to me.
Let's see... Just for fun, let's stick to the legendary females and the planeswalkers, shall we? Starting with, let's say Innistrad.
Olivia Voldaren - Sure she is pretty, but she is in no way sexualized. Heck, she is downright demure compared to some of the other vampires in Innistrad, of both sexes.
Liliana of the Veil - Ok, one point for sexy. But she's also a very strong and independent woman, she knows she is pretty and she uses it to her advantage. Not really sexualized, but damn sexy.
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben - Fairly attractive, but in no way sexualized. Her art shows her as a strong leader type.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Bruna, Light of Alabaster, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, and Sigarda, Host of Herons - I am putting the four angels together as they are all pretty similarly dressed. They are all pretty, as angels usually are, but they are not really what one would call sexy (well, except possibly Avacyn, goth chicks are hot, its a universal rule), and most certainly not sexualized.
Yeva, Nature's Herald - You're joking, right? Not sexy, definitely not sexualized, but a beautiful and strong woman, with a bear.
Chandra, the Firebrand - Strong, Fiercely Independent, and wearing armor. Yeah, not sexualized. She is hot though, in more ways than one. But being hot is not the same as being sexualized.
Liliana of the Dark Realms - See Liliana of the Veil above. Note that a woman being sexy does not equate her being sexualized. Nor does being aware of ones own attractiveness.
Isperia, Supreme Judge - A heavily armored sphinx. If you find that sexy, there is something seriously wrong with you. >.< Definitely not sexualized.
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice - A fairly average dryad art wise, oh, and wearing clothes. Nothing sexualized about her/them.
Vraska the Unseen - Yeah, that's a Gorgon... She wears what appears to be a dress, not really sexy or sexualized.
Aurelia, the Warleader - Heavily armored arch-angel? Yeah, not sexualized. She is pretty, but then again, pretty much a given for an angel.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Ick.
Emmara Tandris - Pretty elf is pretty, to bad her card is pretty bad. She wears a lovely white dress, and appears very beautiful. But I would hesitate to call her sexy (Jace would disagree), and definitely not sexualized.
Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch - If she wasn't so scary I'd call her sexy, but something that aggressive is most certainly not sexualized, particularly not in that pose.
Lavinia of the Tenth - Heavily armored warrior, she does have wide hips going for her, and a fairly pretty face. But she ain't sexualized.
Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts - Ok, we can pretty much all agree that Teysa is a very attractive woman. Sexy even. But she has never been sexualized, nor is she in this card.
Chandra, Pyromaster - See Chandra, the Firebrand above. Nothing else to add.
Elspeth, Sun's Champion - Elspeth is quite attractive, and I am not afraid to say so. She is however, also a heavily armored soldier. Yeah, not sexualized.
Anax and Cymede - Cymede is wearing standard garb for the culture and climate. Not really sexy or sexualized. She is pretty though, and it is easy to see one of the reasons Anax fell for her.
Anthousa, Setessan Hero - Standard garb for the climate, a little surprised at the lack of armor. Obviously a talented fighter. It is very hard to be sexy or sexualized when killing minotaurs, so... yeah.
Hythonia the Cruel - Currently my favorite legend in Theros, but I would not call her sexy, and most definitely not sexualized.
Nylea, God of the Hunt - Beautiful in the way that nature is, but not sexy or sexualized. Looks strong and very talented with a bow.
Thassa, God of the Sea - Looks dangerous and unpredictable, clearly beautiful, but neither sexy nor sexualized.
Triad of Fates - Standard garb (again) for the culture and climate, more scary than sexy. Not sexualized.
So... of the above, only one character can be even remotely claimed to be sexualized, and even then she is strong, independent, dangerous, and well aware of her own attractiveness (and would likely be willing to use it to her own advantage). What was your argument again?
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As Krishnath had stated on the post before me WOTC has surprisingly bit by bit veering away from sexualization these days.
For example, most Angels nowadays are actually covered than their earlier counterparts (although they still suffer from boobplate and boob window syndrome). This is quite evident with the M14 angels with Archangel of Thune and Seraph of the Sword hence I am hoping that a Demoness might actually see print in the future.
There might be some stuff that gets through at times (Koth's Courier comes into mind) but compared them to the amount of sensible portrayals... I won't say Magic these days is overly-sexualized.
Serra Stan - Angel Enthusiast - Garruk and Tyvar thirsty follower - Flavor and Art Enthusiast
"With a bear"
Freaking lol'd
In all seriousness though, I really like that Wizards make (most of) the females rather glorious/attractive yet try not to make that the focus and present them sensibly and seriously.
Maybe not the character, but have you seen the art? On both her cards, the guild symbol is a cleavage window.
Except for the fact that you can see up her skirt?
Might that be because you're not the right audience for the fetish?
You mean other than appearing topless?
There's also the whole boob armor and cleavage thing you missed several times. And I question the validity of sampling only female legends.
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I'm not sure any of your analysis holds weight on this matter, since it seems to be derived from whether your subjectively experience the content as sexualized. It should go without saying that's a non-starter. Nor is it clear that there's a meaningful distinction between "attractive" and "sexualized." In some sense, a character representation that is non-ambiguous about gender is sexualized. To determine whether females are overly sexualized you might compare them to similar representations of males and how likely it is that secondary sexual characteristics and attractiveness are emphasized in one gender vs. another.
OMG, you can see her... pants?
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
well thats got my blood flowing
seriously, compared to a lot of media targeted at teen-30ish males, MTG is very tame
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Godo: Strap him up and turn him sideways!
Magic's been getting away from sexualized for the most part.
As it turns out, women aren't objects and female characters are capable of existing independently of masturbatory fodder.
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It's not that. Satan is "male" and the Virgin Mary (essentially the goddess of Christianity) is female and synonomous with compassion. So females get the angel role and males the demon role. Not to mention men being more prominent in warfare historically and women are seen as more in the nursing and healing light. It's sort of what makes the most sense to the general audience based on traditional Western faiths and storytellings.
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All angels were either male or androgyne to start with. Every last named angel is a male, the entire concept of the female angel is a fairly recent invention, very likely pushed by the association of the valkyrian angel popularized since Magic's creation.
Having said that, I do want to let you guys know that this subject might begin to take some nasty turns, so please keep things respectful and mature going forward, okay?
Sheoldred, Whispering One and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite looks demonish to me. Although I understand Praetors are not demons and play in another league.
Cleavage Window =/= as sexualized. >.<
If it where, then every piece of clothing where you could see the top or bottom of a womans breasts, such as about half of all dresses, swimsuits, and all bikini's would be objectifying women, and that is clearly not the case.
In the same vein: Nudity =/= Sex.
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I know, that's why I wrote "male." Even God himself, who is androgenous is perceived to be male but was only male in human form as Jesus. It's just how people perceive things. I agree that a large part of it pertains to beauty and depicting that best as a female rather than male. But some (not exclusively) feminine qualities like healing, compassion, etc. can be more attributed to White on the color wheel as well. This isn't to say men are not these things, but not traditionally from the focus of stereotypes from the times MTG is cast in that we know from history IN GENERAL.
Anyway, there's already an issue of too few attractive men in MTG and with no male angels, it's almost a reluctance to even portray gorgeous men beyond the handful, or less, that are around in the art (I can think of like 4). So there's still the issue of ignored homo men and hetero women demographic. And also I think it detracts from women to segregate how they can be portrayed. If men can be demons, why not women too?
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Ah, I totally want to agree with this because it's true, but damned if it wasn't Teysa.
Since, after all, it's the Orzhov guild. The guild known for procuring power and showing force in subtle and underhanded ways. Not quite secretive like the Dimir nor bombastic as the Boros. The cleavage window is almost a perfect metaphor for Orzhovian power against the other guilds and amongst each other.
Of course, with that taken into consideration, it's also an example of a woman using her sexuality as an empowering tool. After all, why would an Orzhovian woman of such pedigree as Teysa be seen subjugated by the will of the patriarchy? Her ENTIRE FLAVOUR AND CHARACTER are built specifically as a foil to the patriarchy represented as the Ghost Council. She subverts everything they try to do and twists them in favour for her own needs.
So... yeah. Teysa is sexualized. But I think y'all are kinda missing the point as to why.
Which segues to demons. The same can be said about female demons. Whether Creative wants to utilize that or not is up to them. Lord knows we have enough splendid examples of empowered women using whatever tools are available to them. And they don't need to be demonic.
*raised eyebrow*
I feel like you haven't noticed because you're not looking.
There are plenty of hunky guys in Magic, it's just not as pushed as it is with the ladies because most Magic players are straight guys.
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I very much agree with this statement. Off the top of my head, I can think of a few. And that's just conventional attractiveness--since we're looking for "hunky". There are even more cute and debonair-looking men in the world of Magic.
That's also just the rank and file. Meanwhile, the greater male:female ratio of planeswalkers is actually a boon for male cheesecake. Our headline cast of guys like Koth of the Hammer, Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, Gideon, Champion of Justice, and Garruk, Caller of Beasts are wonderful examples of attractive men.
Show me five that aren't Jace, Venser, Phalanx Leader, Gerrard Capeshen or Master of Arms.
Remember that burly or excessively muscular looking men aren't attractive.
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