Just a thought though this might sound like a terrible idea but there are only 9 red cards in the whole deck 5 are simple to replace.
3 bolts = 3 more paths
2 ajani vengeant = 2 garruk
4 BBE = 4 Baneslayer Angel
i don't think so, because of bbe, and the cunning sparkmage in the side. bolts work better than path in the early game, because you really dont want to ramp them. the cunning sparkmage combo too is red, as is maximizing wild nacatl. would be a great deck idea, but not for boss naya.
My buddy built this with maindecked O-ring, pridemage, MotWH, and wolfbriar elemental, and river boa. It's pretty good. I played it with my UW control deck last night but it went to time.
If you want to ban powerful cards, why not Islands? They have been proven to be fairly unfair in most cases.
The worst turn 1 play you can face down is Draw, play basic Island and say, "go"
Okay...and you are missing THE best cards in standard, her name is Baneslayer Angel. And three paths can definitely fill the spot if three bolts.
baneslayer angel isn't even in the normal naya boss list, and in LSV's list, she's in the sideboard. she may be VERY good, but naya is red/green/white.
There's nothing stopping you from playing BSA in Boss other than the pros didn't. Dropping a color does limit what you can run and does change the deck since by definition Naya is Green White Red. Green White Aggro can be a fine deck, but it wouldn't be Boss Naya, or Naya at all.
Just a thought though this might sound like a terrible idea but there are only 9 red cards in the whole deck 5 are simple to replace.
3 bolts = 3 more paths
2 ajani vengeant = 2 garruk
4 BBE = 4 Baneslayer Angel
Any ideas?
A) As others have said, naya is R/G/W. If you aren't playing those colors, you aren't playing Naya. Nothing wrong with straight G/W, but this is not the forum for it.
B) Path does not replace Bolt. Path is better with dealing with big threats late game (e.g. opposing Baneslayer or KotR), Bolt is better for nuking early drops and burning them out. It's rarely good to path any deck in the early game, since you are ramping them and/or fixing their mana, whereas bolt shines in the early game.
C) Vengeant and Garruk are only similar in that they are planeswalkers. Garruk is fundamentally aggressive, Vengeant is more controllish.
D) Baneslayer and BBE are only similar in that they are powerful cards. Baneslayer is a super powerful threat that provides superior value if it sticks. Bloodbraid is powerful as well, but it's much harder for the opponent to mitigate the card advantage you get from a Bloodbraid. They also fit on different parts of the curve.
Finally, you lose the Sparkmage/Collar combo, which gives you such an advantage post-board against other green-white creature decks.
Again, it's fine to play straight green/white, but you're playing a different deck, so the discussion should go somewhere else.
If you are cutting red, you definitely aren't playing Naya. You also lose a lot of what makes this deck powerful. To compensate, you would need Master of the Wild Hunt, otherwise, I do believe you are in serious trouble against vampires and Malakir Bloodwitch. You can still achieve the equipment search engine and Master plus Collar does play the part of Sparkmage although more mana intensive since you always need to equip an untapped wolf, iirc.
Overall, you are losing a lot of speed and fluidity cutting red. Your answers get more expensive and less explosive. Relying more on Path doesn't help matters either as any early threat you need to remove speeds them up even more. Another point to make is that Nacatl will be worse in a G/W only version which makes Ranger worse as well. So even though they aren't red cards, you will end up replacing them furthering the shift out of the realm of what made the deck so successful. When you start adjusting almost half of your nonland cards in the deck, it gets pulled away from a simple alteration into another deck entirely. Like Shizazination said, sounds like you want to make a G/W Junk deck.
G/W aggro could work , I would suggest staying away from G/W junk or just replacing a few cards in the Nya deck to a G/W aggro. A deck like G/W has a different structure.
As well Path to Exile really hurts...thus to replace bolt with it I will not say it is the same. Harm's way I can see to be closer to a bolt then Path tbh.
BBE and Baneslayer are both some of the most premium cards in the cycle. Yes they both kick ass , but I don't think a comparison to choose between them is fair. If you want to play Baneslayer it is because you have place for her in your deck , not because you threw out a vital card to get her in.
I really liked this list : http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=31419 . It is called G/W aggro ,but you have 6% of the deck being green which is really asking the question can you not just run it pure white. Anyways I think that could be a possible list from developing a more G/W aggro deck.
GW might be better if people start siding in that new angel against Boss. She makes ol'Sparky pretty useless and without him red is looking dull. Although, I truly don't think it will be much of a problem unless there is another tier 1 deck on the rise that uses activated abilities to win. We can only wait and see.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
"In that case, I should probably mention I filled our luggage with orphan meat."
"What?"
"Well, I'm building a Meat Dragon and not just any meat will do."
Awesome sig by Kracked Graphics
Currently Playing
T2: G Elves!
Extended: BGW Doran BRG Jund
Legacy: BG Eva Green
GW might be better if people start siding in that new angel against Boss. She makes ol'Sparky pretty useless and without him red is looking dull. Although, I truly don't think it will be much of a problem unless there is another tier 1 deck on the rise that uses activated abilities to win. We can only wait and see.
the thing still remains that linvala is only gonna be used if one of 2 things occur: if boss becomes dominant, and a deck with a lot of creatures with activated abilities will be a viable threat.
and if any of those would happen, linvala in the SB would be a decent addition to boss naya, since it counters linvala, and it could counter the hypothetical deck with creatures that have actovated abilities.
still, linvala is a big threat to boss, no question about that.
3 bolts = 3 more paths
2 ajani vengeant = 2 garruk
4 BBE = 4 Baneslayer Angel
Any ideas?
Trades
UBRTezzUBR
UMono-Blue-ControlU
RUGRiku of Two ReflectionsRUG
plus, the cunning sparkmage in the SB kills malakir bloodwitch, a big threat i've seen against naya since bolt and path don't kill it.
RWG Boss Naya
Yes this is true but it is a different version of Boss Naya. There is not ONE specific list for Boss Naya, there are many variants of lists.
Trades
UBRTezzUBR
UMono-Blue-ControlU
RUGRiku of Two ReflectionsRUG
BaconoftheArk speaks the truth:
thanks, that's what i meant.
—Lim-Dûl, the Necromancer
Okay...and you are missing THE best card in standard, her name is Baneslayer Angel. And three paths can definitely fill the spot if three bolts.
Trades
UBRTezzUBR
UMono-Blue-ControlU
RUGRiku of Two ReflectionsRUG
baneslayer angel isn't even in the normal naya boss list, and in LSV's list, she's in the sideboard. she may be VERY good, but naya is red/green/white.
EDH:
W Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
GB Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
A) As others have said, naya is R/G/W. If you aren't playing those colors, you aren't playing Naya. Nothing wrong with straight G/W, but this is not the forum for it.
B) Path does not replace Bolt. Path is better with dealing with big threats late game (e.g. opposing Baneslayer or KotR), Bolt is better for nuking early drops and burning them out. It's rarely good to path any deck in the early game, since you are ramping them and/or fixing their mana, whereas bolt shines in the early game.
C) Vengeant and Garruk are only similar in that they are planeswalkers. Garruk is fundamentally aggressive, Vengeant is more controllish.
D) Baneslayer and BBE are only similar in that they are powerful cards. Baneslayer is a super powerful threat that provides superior value if it sticks. Bloodbraid is powerful as well, but it's much harder for the opponent to mitigate the card advantage you get from a Bloodbraid. They also fit on different parts of the curve.
Finally, you lose the Sparkmage/Collar combo, which gives you such an advantage post-board against other green-white creature decks.
Again, it's fine to play straight green/white, but you're playing a different deck, so the discussion should go somewhere else.
Overall, you are losing a lot of speed and fluidity cutting red. Your answers get more expensive and less explosive. Relying more on Path doesn't help matters either as any early threat you need to remove speeds them up even more. Another point to make is that Nacatl will be worse in a G/W only version which makes Ranger worse as well. So even though they aren't red cards, you will end up replacing them furthering the shift out of the realm of what made the deck so successful. When you start adjusting almost half of your nonland cards in the deck, it gets pulled away from a simple alteration into another deck entirely. Like Shizazination said, sounds like you want to make a G/W Junk deck.
As well Path to Exile really hurts...thus to replace bolt with it I will not say it is the same. Harm's way I can see to be closer to a bolt then Path tbh.
BBE and Baneslayer are both some of the most premium cards in the cycle. Yes they both kick ass , but I don't think a comparison to choose between them is fair. If you want to play Baneslayer it is because you have place for her in your deck , not because you threw out a vital card to get her in.
I really liked this list : http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=31419 . It is called G/W aggro ,but you have 6% of the deck being green which is really asking the question can you not just run it pure white. Anyways I think that could be a possible list from developing a more G/W aggro deck.
Hope that helps
? that would be G/W/b... not G/W.
Who said that?
SB:
3x Mountain
4x Cunning Sparkmage
2x Great Sable Stag
1x Scattershot Archer
1x Basilisk Collar
1x Hammer of Ruin
2x Quasali Pridemage
2x Celestial Purge
Trades
UBRTezzUBR
UMono-Blue-ControlU
RUGRiku of Two ReflectionsRUG
Trades
UBRTezzUBR
UMono-Blue-ControlU
RUGRiku of Two ReflectionsRUG
loam lion is kinda meh. student of warfare can swing for 3 on turn 2. and that thing is a first striker.
RWG Boss Naya
"What?"
"Well, I'm building a Meat Dragon and not just any meat will do."
Awesome sig by Kracked Graphics
Currently Playing
T2:
G Elves!
Extended:
BGW Doran
BRG Jund
Legacy:
BG Eva Green
the thing still remains that linvala is only gonna be used if one of 2 things occur: if boss becomes dominant, and a deck with a lot of creatures with activated abilities will be a viable threat.
and if any of those would happen, linvala in the SB would be a decent addition to boss naya, since it counters linvala, and it could counter the hypothetical deck with creatures that have actovated abilities.
still, linvala is a big threat to boss, no question about that.
RWG Boss Naya
She only disables activated abilities, her ability is not activated itself, so they would not cancel each other.