Gnaw to the Bone is another alternative to Marrow Chomper, as if you dredge it away, you can surprise someone with instant speed flashback and you tend to gain more life than from devouring (unless you've amassed a large token army, which is possible).
Jarad has a dedicated Dredge engine, so Worm Harvest is capable of producing 8+ tokens per recast (thanks to Dakmor Salvage's recursion).
Worm Harvest is a favorite of mine. It's especially awesome with Life from the Loam and cycling lands. Throw in Gaea's Cradle and it can quickly spiral out of control. I've used this to great effect in Savra, Queen of the Golgari, as the Worm tokens are all both colors.
As far as Devour guys go, Skullmulcher is a bit more potent than Chomper, IMO. Mycoloth can also be pretty crazy.
I have Reprocess all ready, and my 5 slot is clogged.
Voidmage Husher is an amazing creature. It shuts off Transmute, Cycling, and any other non-mana activated ability.
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Snake Umbra is VERY good in Borborygmous Enranged. It becomes a combo card with protection, especially with wheel effects. There was a game I needed to kill someone from a full 40 right before they killed the table (squirrel nest + earthcraft, no haste) and managed to do so from 4 lands with the umbra + wheel of fortune
It's been mentioned before, but Scythe of the Wretched has also been overperforming in the deck. Kill your prime speaker, draw 12? Don't mind if I do.
Snake Umbra is VERY good in Borborygmous Enranged. It becomes a combo card with protection, especially with wheel effects. There was a game I needed to kill someone from a full 40 right before they killed the table (squirrel nest + earthcraft, no haste) and managed to do so from 4 lands with the umbra + wheel of fortune
It's been mentioned before, but Scythe of the Wretched has also been overperforming in the deck. Kill your prime speaker, draw 12? Don't mind if I do.
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I hadn't thought of that interaction. Perhaps I'll put it in the deck but with no tutoring. All the cards are good on their own at least.
I've tried the collar and it's pretty good. Much nicer to take out praetors/big things on one hit instead of two or three. Easier to mange the number of lands in hand with that.
Oh, and as a bonus, it can gain quite a lot of life/plague wind in response to removal.
Collar is definitely a flexible spot, but it's performed admirably so far.
Khalni Garden. auto include in a token shenanigans kinda deck. cipt but the free 0/1 might be something your deck wants if you have skull clamp and multiple ways to tutor it. also nice to defend a planeswalker, or spells that make you sac stuff, and birthing pod chains with 1 mana creatures I guess.
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Khalni Garden. auto include in a token shenanigans kinda deck. cipt but the free 0/1 might be something your deck wants if you have skull clamp and multiple ways to tutor it. also nice to defend a planeswalker, or spells that make you sac stuff, and birthing pod chains with 1 mana creatures I guess.
Not to mention it gets buffed along with Avenger of Zendikar's tokens. I'm not sure why I put the garden in my Baru, Fist of Krosa deck, but it's been fairly useful from time to time.
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Khalni Garden. auto include in a token shenanigans kinda deck. cipt but the free 0/1 might be something your deck wants if you have skull clamp and multiple ways to tutor it. also nice to defend a planeswalker, or spells that make you sac stuff, and birthing pod chains with 1 mana creatures I guess.
I'm going to be trying out this gem in my Olivia Spirits/ping type deck. Basically, I'm aiming to cause chaos with it while breaking parity by landing spirits that are either resilient or my opponents don't want to kill such as:
Not sure how WotW works with it, but that's a pretty awesome find.
With Clash of Realities, Will-o'-the-Wisp is a cheap Spirit that bolts another creature for little cost. Plus it absorbs incoming bolts pretty well, making it a creature they often don't want to target. Side note, another gem that works well with Clash of Realities is Gratuitous Violence. Every Spirit dealing 6 to a creature on ETB seems good.
Gem sharing : I don't see a lot of Skyshroud Poacher around. That guy is great. Sure he is a bit slow at 4 mana to drop then 3 to use after you untap but come on. Rofellos, Ezuri, Wood Elves, Viridian Zealot, Deranged Hermit... I'd play as a general any day.
I am new to these parts of the forums and not sure which are the requisites to get a card in the OP listed. But I have one suggestion for Black.
Entrails Feaster is a card that I have found useful. It's a one mana 1/1 Zombie Cat that reads (current oracle text): At the beginning of your upkeep, you may exile a creature card from a graveyard. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Entrails Feaster. If you don't, tap Entrails Feaster.
So this Cat is GY hate in a stick. If you are playing Black it usually means that your opponents will have creatures in their Graveyards during the game. Entrails Feaster can slowly eat those and become stronger. It is also a may ability which is important. It's also a part of important tribe! I run this zombie in my tribal Thraximundar deck and its really good!
Obviously this is a card that doesn't go into all decks, but some decks can appreciate this kind of targeted, repeateable GY hate and I have seen this cat becoming a 10/10 which is a lot for one mana! Obviously you shouldn't run it as a beater, its just a gravy that happens sometimes.
I've never seen that one before, so I give you props on the find.
It's a little narrow and slow, in my opinion. It only exiles creature cards, so it won't stop artifact or instant/sorcery recursion engines like Glissa or Charmbreaker Devils, and it only activates at the start of your turn, which means it's useless for stopping Undying/Persist shenanigans, those involving Shirei or ones involving sac/Sun Titan effects. Beyond that, it's often better to reanimate an opponent's creatures than it is to exile them.
Still, I could see it being handy every now and then, and maybe very handy in the right meta. Plus it is a Zombie Cat, which is style points right there.
While the Entrails Feaster is a nice find for one mana, I feel like it's in between Withered Wretch and Wight of Precinct Six. Certainly a mesh of the two, but it lacks the wretch's speed and multiple uses and it lacks the Wight's ability to be equally large the turn you cast it.
Um, seals and spellbombs. If you're playing white, Sun Titan really loves these guys.
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Since I started using Mishra's Helix in Mishra EDH out of flavor reasons, I've really come to to like the 'mana screw'. So many useful applications.
- Colorscrew people by tapping down all their sources of a single color in their upkeep.
- End of turn, tap out that blue player.
- Tap down utility lands at inopportune moments. Nice Maze of Ith you got there ...
Try Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Mana Web :-D
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I particularly love the Izzet side of it but the Boros is quite handy as well. Gives you options against spells and creatures which is great diversity for reactive plays.
Need chumps? Sac fodder? Then give Breeding Pit a try. It's no Bitterblossom, but it'll only set you back $.50. Thrulls are a thing again. Though they look different than I expected on Ravnica. Must be a Ravnica thing.
EDIT: now that I see how many thrulls there actually are, I think someone needs to make a thrull tribal deck. And here I thought they were only a Fallen Empires thing. The things you miss when you stop playing for 15 years...
I love pulling out stupid red cards in my Mono red deck. Cards like Fissure and Cinder Cloud really catch people off guard because no one expects Mono Red to pull a kill spell out, let alone two of them. They've already been mentioned, though.
Jarad has a dedicated Dredge engine, so Worm Harvest is capable of producing 8+ tokens per recast (thanks to Dakmor Salvage's recursion).
I have Reprocess all ready, and my 5 slot is clogged.
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Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
It's been mentioned before, but Scythe of the Wretched has also been overperforming in the deck. Kill your prime speaker, draw 12? Don't mind if I do.
The missing piece of the puzzle is Abundance. Have you tried Basilisk Collar with Borb2?
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I've tried the collar and it's pretty good. Much nicer to take out praetors/big things on one hit instead of two or three. Easier to mange the number of lands in hand with that.
Oh, and as a bonus, it can gain quite a lot of life/plague wind in response to removal.
Collar is definitely a flexible spot, but it's performed admirably so far.
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Not to mention it gets buffed along with Avenger of Zendikar's tokens. I'm not sure why I put the garden in my Baru, Fist of Krosa deck, but it's been fairly useful from time to time.
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I hear it works pretty good with Natural Order too
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I'm going to be trying out this gem in my Olivia Spirits/ping type deck. Basically, I'm aiming to cause chaos with it while breaking parity by landing spirits that are either resilient or my opponents don't want to kill such as:
Mix with cards like Grave Pact, Vicious Shadows and Mimic Vat and well, you can see where I'm going with this.
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With Clash of Realities, Will-o'-the-Wisp is a cheap Spirit that bolts another creature for little cost. Plus it absorbs incoming bolts pretty well, making it a creature they often don't want to target. Side note, another gem that works well with Clash of Realities is Gratuitous Violence. Every Spirit dealing 6 to a creature on ETB seems good.
Moggcatcher and Seahunter are the goblin and merfolk respectively equivalents.
I've never seen that one before, so I give you props on the find.
It's a little narrow and slow, in my opinion. It only exiles creature cards, so it won't stop artifact or instant/sorcery recursion engines like Glissa or Charmbreaker Devils, and it only activates at the start of your turn, which means it's useless for stopping Undying/Persist shenanigans, those involving Shirei or ones involving sac/Sun Titan effects. Beyond that, it's often better to reanimate an opponent's creatures than it is to exile them.
Still, I could see it being handy every now and then, and maybe very handy in the right meta. Plus it is a Zombie Cat, which is style points right there.
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Yeah, but Seedborn Muse likes the Poacher just a bit more.
Also, I really, really like Seedborn Muse. The only way to make her better is to use her with Yeva, Nature's Herald or Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir.
Um, seals and spellbombs. If you're playing white, Sun Titan really loves these guys.
On phasing:
Try Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Mana Web :-D
Cmon man ... Those are both huuuuugely popular in EDH and other formats to boot. Not even remotely close to hidden.
Updated the list once more, love that someone mentioned Entrails Feaster, haven't seen that card in ages.
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I particularly love the Izzet side of it but the Boros is quite handy as well. Gives you options against spells and creatures which is great diversity for reactive plays.
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Need chumps? Sac fodder? Then give Breeding Pit a try. It's no Bitterblossom, but it'll only set you back $.50. Thrulls are a thing again. Though they look different than I expected on Ravnica. Must be a Ravnica thing.
EDIT: now that I see how many thrulls there actually are, I think someone needs to make a thrull tribal deck. And here I thought they were only a Fallen Empires thing. The things you miss when you stop playing for 15 years...
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Not of This World, though. Now there's a card no one sees coming. Ever. Makes Akroma, Angel of Fury hilariously difficult to remove without a Wrath.
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