Fun is subjective, so whatev. Standard might be cheaper in the immediate term, but in the long run, it is way more expensive than any other format except maybe Vintage.
Looking at the PTQ numbers thus far they are less than half of what extended ptqs were a few years ago.
Not quite a fair comparison. PTQ's are being held at local shops now, and there are lots more of them. As a result, the average attendance may be down, but total participation may not.
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Not quite a fair comparison. PTQ's are being held at local shops now, and there are lots more of them. As a result, the average attendance may be down, but total participation may not.
I would hope Slip wouldn't be stupid enough to miss out on the fact that comparing X amount of PTQs this season with X amount of PTQs of Extended Season would show skewed results.
I just dont see how Modern is a cash outlet for WoTC
The mere fact that they can print things that people want allows them to make money off of it. Its a delicate proposition to find the proper way to sell those cards, but they can do it. That's just not something that can be done with legacy.
There are dozens of ways they could use modern to make money. Several of them are transparently bad, and some take a lot of work, but they have the options.
On the one end they can do "From the Vaults: Tarmogoyf and 14 basic lands, MSRP of $50" It would be greatly looked down on as a cash grab, but plenty of people would still buy the hell out of it.
On the other end they can do "Huge set of modern legal cards, and Modern booster packs, MSRP at $7".
Do stuff like this
Commons: Slieght of hand, mana leak, lightning bolt
Uncommon: Path to Exile, Cranial Plating
Rare: Proclamation of Rebirth, Shocklands, Pyromancer's Ascension
Mythic: Tarmogoyf, Dark Confidant
They can fluff it out with fringe playables and cards that aren't currently modern legal but that they would want to be to get the value ratio right, and people would buy them. This would probably go over best, but it would take a lot more effort to design, especially if they went with their usual MO of always wanting limited to be playable.
I support WotC's goal of shaping Modern in favor of diversity.
I ran a thought experiment on my blog Modern in a Nuclear Wasteland
of an extreme case of banning 20 more cards to make sure they get everything, then scaling back where appropriate. WotC seems to be on a slowly build up approach. Both ways probably reach similar end points.
The post Gatecrash metagame is proving to be closer to the endpoint than I estimated, so its very possible that few (if any) more cards need to be banned.
To you its more fun. As for cost, it really depends on what cards you own already. Duals for Legacy are much more expensive then shocklands, there are some staples comparable in price but when it comes to the mana base, Legacy is much more expensive to buy into as a n00b.
Using the diversity = fun it is. As for the price of standard I don't remember shocks cost 40-60 dollars. That might be because I got my playsets early. It is hard to argue that standard and even modern aren't insanely cheaper....have you see the price of moat lol.
I would hope Slip wouldn't be stupid enough to miss out on the fact that comparing X amount of PTQs this season with X amount of PTQs of Extended Season would show skewed results.
I'm pretty sure total participation IS down.
I thought that was going to be implemented next year? I wouldn't notice the difference because PTQs have been at stores for years here. Ever seen 250 nerds packed into a 40x40x10 space? What is even more awkward is when you get 3 big guys all sitting at adjacent tables.... sweaty fat rolls all touching....
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SCG already does its modern challenge on Saturday, which drew alot of people on Saturday at SCG LA, and the ones at other events I have been too were also large. In our area we are drawing about 15 - 40 for our weekly modern tournaments, which is very strong right now. We will see how things go once modern season ends.
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Using the diversity = fun it is. As for the price of standard I don't remember shocks cost 40-60 dollars. That might be because I got my playsets early. It is hard to argue that standard and even modern aren't insanely cheaper....have you see the price of moat lol.
Name a deck in legacy that is very popular that plays Moat, Tabernacle, or pretty much anything over $150. The only real things that make Legacy more expensive than Modern is manabase (Duals + Wasteland) and Force of Will and a few other choice cards that are outside of Modern's pool. And of course standard is way more expensive than either to play at the tournament level in the long run (which is why I switched to eternal really quickly after returning to magic).
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Name a deck in legacy that is very popular that plays Moat, Tabernacle, or pretty much anything over $150. The only real things that make Legacy more expensive than Modern is manabase (Duals + Wasteland) and Force of Will and a few other choice cards that are outside of Modern's pool. And of course standard is way more expensive than either to play at the tournament level in the long run (which is why I switched to eternal really quickly after returning to magic).
I don't have a whole lot of experience with legacy beyond casually with friends.(MWS, trice, or proxies) I picked up a list and thought about building it and it had a moat. I was going through the prices and had a double take. Also I said that standard is cheaper. Sure over the course of like 5 years it is not, but you can build a standard deck at around tier 2 for ~150$.
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Name a deck in legacy that is very popular that plays Moat, Tabernacle, or pretty much anything over $150. The only real things that make Legacy more expensive than Modern is manabase (Duals + Wasteland) and Force of Will and a few other choice cards that are outside of Modern's pool.
I get what you're saying though, when you invest into Legacy, if you don't have Duals, then you're looking to fork over a lot of cash. Mana bases alone, for the top tier decks, can run up to a thousand dollars.
Modern was built to appease the players who don't have duals with an eternal format where they could invest into.
And, for the people saying Legacy is more fun... How can you measure what's more fun? Sure, you may have more fun playing Legacy, but I don't. I have infinitely more fun playing Modern. Fun is completely subjective. I know players that would rather play EDH, Vintage, or 2HG than Legacy. It's all about the person and their friends.
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I get what you're saying though, when you invest into Legacy, if you don't have Duals, then you're looking to fork over a lot of cash. Mana bases alone, for the top tier decks, can run up to a thousand dollars.
Modern was built to appease the players who don't have duals with an eternal format where they could invest into.
And, for the people saying Legacy is more fun... How can you measure what's more fun? Sure, you may have more fun playing Legacy, but I don't. I have infinitely more fun playing Modern. Fun is completely subjective. I know players that would rather play EDH, Vintage, or 2HG than Legacy. It's all about the person and their friends.
well my argument that fun should = variety and legacy has more variety than modern because the larger card pool. This point is less subjective although when I play magic casually it is legacy using trice/mws/ or proxies with friends IRL.
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Imperial Seal is banned in Legacy. So if you're seeing any of them in a tournament, I suggest immediately calling a judge for a free match win.
Painter, Aluren, and High Tide are not top tier decks. So you don't need to have Imperial Recruiter or Candelabra of Tawnos. Moat is played only in Enchantress and The Mighty Quinn. And Tabernacle is, admitted, played in a handful of decks - more than the other three cards mention, but still a very insignificant portion of the metagame.
Honestly, the only expensive part of Legacy is Duals, Wasteland, Rishadan Port, and Force of Will. Besides those cards, the format is very cheap to build and maintain a deck in.
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Imperial Seal is banned in Legacy. So if you're seeing any of them in a tournament, I suggest immediately calling a judge for a free match win.
Painter, Aluren, and High Tide are not top tier decks. So you don't need to have Imperial Recruiter or Candelabra of Tawnos. Moat is played only in Enchantress and The Mighty Quinn. And Tabernacle is, admitted, played in a handful of decks - more than the other three cards mention, but still a very insignificant portion of the metagame.
Honestly, the only expensive part of Legacy is Duals, Wasteland, Rishadan Port, and Force of Will. Besides those cards, the format is very cheap to build and maintain a deck in.
But yeah, I was agreeing with you. The expensive part of Legacy is truly the manabase. Most of which start with Duals, move onto Wasteland, and then most likely add in Force of Will.
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Agreed. Drafts are fun to do, but they are not the best to watch coverage of.
Either that, or they can do Standard on Friday, Modern on Saturday, and Legacy on Sunday.
A lot of people work M-F. This is why SCG Opens have been Sat-Sun. After work Friday, people either saddle up and drive, get into the hotel and playtest til early AM, then wake up and be ready for standard at 10am.
Adding a 3rd Open Format to the SCG Weekend would be difficult, in terms of logistics, timing, company interest and the lack of hours in a day. As it is now, standard starts on Saturday at 10am local time, and most often does not end until 10pm. Then the semifinals and finals are next morning. Legacy then starts at 10am Sunday, and coverage usually starts up around 1pm local time, and Legacy usually ends around 10pm with the champion. SCG will definitely not put Modern into any time that overlaps Legacy, which leaves it to be played on Saturday, which I don't think would be possible. Legacy may be SCG's cash cow, but their standard tournament attendance is always 3-400 players, and I'm sure there are plenty of people scrapping for singles Saturday morning.
And today we have one of the smallest Legacy opens in years. I heard all the excuses, sorry but numbers are numbers.
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Well the two guys who are commentators on the SCG's today said they both dont like Modern. Jacob says with all the bannings it has put him off it. And gerard says he just dont like it over exteneded + loads of people he talks to dont also dont like it.
Yeah I think the format is going the same way as Extended. Sadly the bannings are what most people are fingering as the culprit.
I really think the loss of Diving Top stopped the Counterbalance deck that would have stopped most of the early combo decks from being what they were. I also think banning Dredge and Fae pieces turned lots of people off to the format.
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Both formats are in limbo- many complained about the cost of Legacy so Modern created. With the heavy bannings and no significant high cost reprints people aren't jumping into Modern. Suspect some Legacy players have sold cards with expectations that Legacy would decrease in popularity thus affecting that format as well. Until bannings stabilize and some reprints added will not see advancement in Modern unless tournament series added.
How far would Star City let Legacy drop before they made a change - don't know. 118 this weekend is not great but may still be profitable -depends on their cost to run event. 234 in DC 2 weeks ago - percentage relative to standard similar. Plus this is release weekend many may stay closer to home to get more new cards.
How far would Star City let Legacy drop before they made a change - don't know. 118 this weekend is not great but may still be profitable -depends on their cost to run event. 234 in DC 2 weeks ago - percentage relative to standard similar. Plus this is release weekend many may stay closer to home to get more new cards.
Release weekends do skew the numbers oddly. A lot of players don't make the trip, rather just play in their LGS' release events, etc. I know a lot of the stores in my area are doing huge release events today, like sealed, Win-A-Boxes, EDH tournaments, etc.
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There's 118 this weekend because its the release weekend of a set and the Super Bowl.
Or it could be that people are sick of playing versus 40 Stonforge mystic decks.
My point is that Legacy is slowing down and really doesn't show signs of growth. Modern does need some reprints, but it has so much room to grow. For the cost of 1 Underground Sea people could build entire Modern decks. It is also very hard to acquire Duals while Shocklands are rather abundant. Will AVR have shocks? Goyf? Dark Confidant? Honestly I find it suspicious that AVR is a 249 card set. To me it seems like they may be trying to jam some reprints into the next set. I may be wrong but that would be just what the format needs.
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Or it could be that people are sick of playing versus 40 Stonforge mystic decks.
My point is that Legacy is slowing down and really doesn't show signs of growth. Modern does need some reprints, but it has so much room to grow. For the cost of 1 Underground Sea people could build entire Modern decks. It is also very hard to acquire Duals while Shocklands are rather abundant. Will AVR have shocks? Goyf? Dark Confidant? Honestly I find it suspicious that AVR is a 249 card set. To me it seems like they may be trying to jam some reprints into the next set. I may be wrong but that would be just what the format needs.
Well, we do know that there won't be a 'Goyf, at least according to MaRo. Dark Confidant seems like a good fit, though. With all of the evil humans doing their thing, Dark Confidant seems like it would've been a no-brainer to fit into the Innistrad block.
Other than that, I think that shocklands will be reprinted at some point, along with 'Goyf, but not in Standard. I think the next FTV will be some sort of Modern staples, and Planechase 2 should have some reprints in them.
EDIT: But, Modern seems like it would be more suitable for SCG than Legacy. It almost comes down to you can sell a few cards (duals, FoW, etc.) to people for a high price OR you can sell a lot of cards (shocks, 'Goyfs, Bob) to people for a cheaper price.
But, I do see the argument that SCG has created such a Legacy metagame, people will expect it every week. But, it seems like they could do something like, Weekend A there is a Standard Open on Saturday (obviously where the most players will be) and a Legacy Open AND Modern Open on Sunday. But, only the Legacy Open is broadcasted. Then, on Weekend B, there will be a Standard Open on Saturday and a Legacy Open AND Modern Open on Sunday, but the Modern Open is televised.
It wouldn't take away from Modern or Legacy having them on the same day, I don't think, because the players who already invested into Legacy are probably going to continue to play Legacy, and the players invested into Modern are going to play Modern.
Or it could be that people are sick of playing versus 40 Stonforge mystic decks.
My point is that Legacy is slowing down and really doesn't show signs of growth. Modern does need some reprints, but it has so much room to grow. For the cost of 1 Underground Sea people could build entire Modern decks. It is also very hard to acquire Duals while Shocklands are rather abundant. Will AVR have shocks? Goyf? Dark Confidant? Honestly I find it suspicious that AVR is a 249 card set. To me it seems like they may be trying to jam some reprints into the next set. I may be wrong but that would be just what the format needs.
SFM isn't even the most played archetype in Legacy. Legacy always adapts itself. Burn just won the last SCG Open. There are enough powerful cards and interactions that it never really stagnates. On the flip side, Modern is doing no better than extended in the middle of a PTQ season.
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SFM isn't even the most played archetype in Legacy. Legacy always adapts itself. Burn just won the last SCG Open. There are enough powerful cards and interactions that it never really stagnates. On the flip side, Modern is doing no better than extended in the middle of a PTQ season.
Do you have real numbers to support that claim? It seems to me that a 500+ player MOCS and a 150+ player PTQ seem like pretty decent numbers for a format.
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And today we have one of the smallest Legacy opens in years. I heard all the excuses, sorry but numbers are numbers.
5 rounds cut to top 8 is incredibly small. I must say I was surprised. I mean honestly in Virginia of all places to have such a small event is stunning.
5 rounds cut to top 8 is incredibly small. I must say I was surprised. I mean honestly in Virginia of all places to have such a small event is stunning.
The SCG open is 7 rounds.
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Fun is subjective, so whatev. Standard might be cheaper in the immediate term, but in the long run, it is way more expensive than any other format except maybe Vintage.
Not quite a fair comparison. PTQ's are being held at local shops now, and there are lots more of them. As a result, the average attendance may be down, but total participation may not.
I would hope Slip wouldn't be stupid enough to miss out on the fact that comparing X amount of PTQs this season with X amount of PTQs of Extended Season would show skewed results.
I'm pretty sure total participation IS down.
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The mere fact that they can print things that people want allows them to make money off of it. Its a delicate proposition to find the proper way to sell those cards, but they can do it. That's just not something that can be done with legacy.
There are dozens of ways they could use modern to make money. Several of them are transparently bad, and some take a lot of work, but they have the options.
On the one end they can do "From the Vaults: Tarmogoyf and 14 basic lands, MSRP of $50" It would be greatly looked down on as a cash grab, but plenty of people would still buy the hell out of it.
On the other end they can do "Huge set of modern legal cards, and Modern booster packs, MSRP at $7".
Do stuff like this
Commons: Slieght of hand, mana leak, lightning bolt
Uncommon: Path to Exile, Cranial Plating
Rare: Proclamation of Rebirth, Shocklands, Pyromancer's Ascension
Mythic: Tarmogoyf, Dark Confidant
They can fluff it out with fringe playables and cards that aren't currently modern legal but that they would want to be to get the value ratio right, and people would buy them. This would probably go over best, but it would take a lot more effort to design, especially if they went with their usual MO of always wanting limited to be playable.
I ran a thought experiment on my blog
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of an extreme case of banning 20 more cards to make sure they get everything, then scaling back where appropriate. WotC seems to be on a slowly build up approach. Both ways probably reach similar end points.
The post Gatecrash metagame is proving to be closer to the endpoint than I estimated, so its very possible that few (if any) more cards need to be banned.
Using the diversity = fun it is. As for the price of standard I don't remember shocks cost 40-60 dollars. That might be because I got my playsets early. It is hard to argue that standard and even modern aren't insanely cheaper....have you see the price of moat lol.
I thought that was going to be implemented next year? I wouldn't notice the difference because PTQs have been at stores for years here. Ever seen 250 nerds packed into a 40x40x10 space? What is even more awkward is when you get 3 big guys all sitting at adjacent tables.... sweaty fat rolls all touching....
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Name a deck in legacy that is very popular that plays Moat, Tabernacle, or pretty much anything over $150. The only real things that make Legacy more expensive than Modern is manabase (Duals + Wasteland) and Force of Will and a few other choice cards that are outside of Modern's pool. And of course standard is way more expensive than either to play at the tournament level in the long run (which is why I switched to eternal really quickly after returning to magic).
I don't have a whole lot of experience with legacy beyond casually with friends.(MWS, trice, or proxies) I picked up a list and thought about building it and it had a moat. I was going through the prices and had a double take. Also I said that standard is cheaper. Sure over the course of like 5 years it is not, but you can build a standard deck at around tier 2 for ~150$.
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Painter and Aluren both play Imperial Recruiter. Versions of Nic Fit play Imperial Seal. High Tide plays Candelabra of Tawnos.
I get what you're saying though, when you invest into Legacy, if you don't have Duals, then you're looking to fork over a lot of cash. Mana bases alone, for the top tier decks, can run up to a thousand dollars.
Modern was built to appease the players who don't have duals with an eternal format where they could invest into.
And, for the people saying Legacy is more fun... How can you measure what's more fun? Sure, you may have more fun playing Legacy, but I don't. I have infinitely more fun playing Modern. Fun is completely subjective. I know players that would rather play EDH, Vintage, or 2HG than Legacy. It's all about the person and their friends.
well my argument that fun should = variety and legacy has more variety than modern because the larger card pool. This point is less subjective although when I play magic casually it is legacy using trice/mws/ or proxies with friends IRL.
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Imperial Seal is banned in Legacy. So if you're seeing any of them in a tournament, I suggest immediately calling a judge for a free match win.
Painter, Aluren, and High Tide are not top tier decks. So you don't need to have Imperial Recruiter or Candelabra of Tawnos. Moat is played only in Enchantress and The Mighty Quinn. And Tabernacle is, admitted, played in a handful of decks - more than the other three cards mention, but still a very insignificant portion of the metagame.
Honestly, the only expensive part of Legacy is Duals, Wasteland, Rishadan Port, and Force of Will. Besides those cards, the format is very cheap to build and maintain a deck in.
Er, not Imperial Seal, the other expensive Tutor... Grim Tutor.
But yeah, I was agreeing with you. The expensive part of Legacy is truly the manabase. Most of which start with Duals, move onto Wasteland, and then most likely add in Force of Will.
A lot of people work M-F. This is why SCG Opens have been Sat-Sun. After work Friday, people either saddle up and drive, get into the hotel and playtest til early AM, then wake up and be ready for standard at 10am.
Adding a 3rd Open Format to the SCG Weekend would be difficult, in terms of logistics, timing, company interest and the lack of hours in a day. As it is now, standard starts on Saturday at 10am local time, and most often does not end until 10pm. Then the semifinals and finals are next morning. Legacy then starts at 10am Sunday, and coverage usually starts up around 1pm local time, and Legacy usually ends around 10pm with the champion. SCG will definitely not put Modern into any time that overlaps Legacy, which leaves it to be played on Saturday, which I don't think would be possible. Legacy may be SCG's cash cow, but their standard tournament attendance is always 3-400 players, and I'm sure there are plenty of people scrapping for singles Saturday morning.
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Yeah I think the format is going the same way as Extended. Sadly the bannings are what most people are fingering as the culprit.
I really think the loss of Diving Top stopped the Counterbalance deck that would have stopped most of the early combo decks from being what they were. I also think banning Dredge and Fae pieces turned lots of people off to the format.
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How far would Star City let Legacy drop before they made a change - don't know. 118 this weekend is not great but may still be profitable -depends on their cost to run event. 234 in DC 2 weeks ago - percentage relative to standard similar. Plus this is release weekend many may stay closer to home to get more new cards.
Release weekends do skew the numbers oddly. A lot of players don't make the trip, rather just play in their LGS' release events, etc. I know a lot of the stores in my area are doing huge release events today, like sealed, Win-A-Boxes, EDH tournaments, etc.
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Or it could be that people are sick of playing versus 40 Stonforge mystic decks.
My point is that Legacy is slowing down and really doesn't show signs of growth. Modern does need some reprints, but it has so much room to grow. For the cost of 1 Underground Sea people could build entire Modern decks. It is also very hard to acquire Duals while Shocklands are rather abundant. Will AVR have shocks? Goyf? Dark Confidant? Honestly I find it suspicious that AVR is a 249 card set. To me it seems like they may be trying to jam some reprints into the next set. I may be wrong but that would be just what the format needs.
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Well, we do know that there won't be a 'Goyf, at least according to MaRo. Dark Confidant seems like a good fit, though. With all of the evil humans doing their thing, Dark Confidant seems like it would've been a no-brainer to fit into the Innistrad block.
Other than that, I think that shocklands will be reprinted at some point, along with 'Goyf, but not in Standard. I think the next FTV will be some sort of Modern staples, and Planechase 2 should have some reprints in them.
EDIT: But, Modern seems like it would be more suitable for SCG than Legacy. It almost comes down to you can sell a few cards (duals, FoW, etc.) to people for a high price OR you can sell a lot of cards (shocks, 'Goyfs, Bob) to people for a cheaper price.
But, I do see the argument that SCG has created such a Legacy metagame, people will expect it every week. But, it seems like they could do something like, Weekend A there is a Standard Open on Saturday (obviously where the most players will be) and a Legacy Open AND Modern Open on Sunday. But, only the Legacy Open is broadcasted. Then, on Weekend B, there will be a Standard Open on Saturday and a Legacy Open AND Modern Open on Sunday, but the Modern Open is televised.
It wouldn't take away from Modern or Legacy having them on the same day, I don't think, because the players who already invested into Legacy are probably going to continue to play Legacy, and the players invested into Modern are going to play Modern.
SFM isn't even the most played archetype in Legacy. Legacy always adapts itself. Burn just won the last SCG Open. There are enough powerful cards and interactions that it never really stagnates. On the flip side, Modern is doing no better than extended in the middle of a PTQ season.
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Do you have real numbers to support that claim? It seems to me that a 500+ player MOCS and a 150+ player PTQ seem like pretty decent numbers for a format.
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5 rounds cut to top 8 is incredibly small. I must say I was surprised. I mean honestly in Virginia of all places to have such a small event is stunning.
The SCG open is 7 rounds.
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