I'm in between a couple decks. I expect a lot of artifact and ETB hate. I'm on uw angel ATM but thinking of switching to uwr aggro because its fast and has good tempo. Also doesn't get hated out that easily. Another possibility is to play br burn. It's pretty fast and it's sb has room to put 4 topor orb and fallout for uw.
My only experience with modern is on MODO where I play UWR aggro and for a while the deck seemed awesome, until that stupid soul sisters deck became popular. I've only won one game against it so far. So if you expect a lot of that don't play uwr. I think UW angel is a very good deck. It plays to many of the best cards. UWR is good against a lot of the field though. It doesn't lose against Jund if they don't resolve Kitchen Finks. Torpor Orb seems like a tech sideboard card. I might have to try that.
I would play whatever I am most comfortable using. In my case it happens to be affinity. Even if there is a lot of artifact hate, the fact that I play it best gives me the best shot at winning overall.
Im playing Karn Tron. I decided to run despite the sea of blood moons and spreading seas. I'm not likely to win(My only previous GP exp is running merfolk at GP Columbus the year Saito won it, I was running a nearly identical list as wen 3-3 drop ). Also the deck is pretty simple to play, after 8-9 hours of magic straight, my brain just gets worn out lol.
Why? I've played the deck extensively in the last couple months. I know how it works. I've tweaked it to include a card that isnt widely used (but should be)
2nd? either Affinity or UW Control with Restoration Angel. both are good. I'd probably play affinity over UW because i own all of Affinity.
It's generally 50/50 or favored against anything that isn't Tron assuming proper construction, and gives tons of leverage to play-skill and experience with the format. If you're expecting heavy tron, that can be sideboarded for as well. That being said that's just me, I've had tons of practice with said deck and it fits my play style quite well. More than that, it's not a tier archetype since it takes a ton of practice, an expansive knowledge of the format, patience, and a realization that it's not a pre-made deck that you can just port from standard.
If you're just looking to pick up a new deck without tons of experience in the format, I would probably lean toward UW tron. It's a powerful deck that has a lot of resilience, allows the player to leverage some playskill, but probably doesn't require the same degree of format knowledge as something like Pod or UW restoration tempo would to be successful with.
So far I have uw angel built for the Gp, seems solid and it's sb is super sweet. Based on modo results the major decks to worry about are rb burn uw mirror naya pod rug and Jund.although what seems too annoy naya pod the most grafdiggers cage ?
So far I have uw angel built for the Gp, seems solid and it's sb is super sweet. Based on modo results the major decks to worry about are rb burn uw mirror naya pod rug and Jund.although what seems too annoy naya pod the most grafdiggers cage ?
Cage is a problem, though the builds with multiple Pridemages can deal with it reasonably well and most builds still run four Angels and three to four Kikis so it's not as though they can't win through it.
Cage is a problem, though the builds with multiple Pridemages can deal with it reasonably well and most builds still run four Angels and three to four Kikis so it's not as though they can't win through it.
Gifts + Unburial Rites for Elesh Norn is really rough on Naya pod. They either have to have Zealous Conscripts or Phyrexian Metamorph in hand (of which they typically only play 1-2), or they essentially lose. They can occasionally pod into conscripts off Restoration angel, but it's still an uphill battle, and unless they can kill on the swing with conscripts and Elesh Norn, you just get Norn back and things go back to how they were. Even if they can deal with Elesh, it still essentially wraths their board and sets them way back.
As for RG tron, it's certainly powerful, but you're essentially going to be goldfishing for 8 straight hours, without any reliable way to win bad matchups. With RG Tron, you're essentially scooping to Storm Combo, Twin, and Hive Mind, and are probably subpar against the Pod Combo decks as well since they not only have land-destruction off pod typically, but they often can just combo out quicker and win. Some tron people think playing Mindslaver saves them against combo decks, but even with 7 mana on turn 3 (which is only happens around 30-40% of the time), they still need to draw the mindslaver, and even then can't activate until turn 4. Most of the combo decks win turn 3 / 4 in the format, and have disruption to back it up anyway, so that's not really a reliable strategy.
If I were going into GP columbus, I would be extra sure to have answers to birthing pod combo decks. If you're playing blue, I would be packing trinket mages with Grafdigger's Cage & Pithing needle in my 75 as they're reliable ways to shut off part of the pod decks efficiently. Needle also shuts down other relevant targets such as planeswalkers, cranial plating, manlands, sac triggers (viscera seer) or even something such as Grim Lavamancer. There isn't a modern deck in the format that doesn't make good use of activated abilities. Many decks rely heavily on activated abilities too (pod).
Volcanic fallout is another nice card to have this weekend. Faeries have seen a big rise in popularity, and while fallout won't kill goyfs, it does kill Geists, Delvers, and most other creatures in the format without being countered. At the very minimum, it's a nice sideboard consideration.
Finally, I wouldn't ignore the graveyard. There are tons of uses for efficient graveyard removal in the format. If you're not playing a deck that's super graveyard dependent, play Relic of Progenitus since it cantrips itself, or slowly eats an opponent's graveyard away until you don't need it anymore. Relic is much better than crypt or leylines against decks that aren't "all in" on using their graveyards such as Aggro Loam.
The problem with blue and cage is that it shuts off your snapcasters which are a large part of the UW restoration decks success =/. I'd rather just use mindcensors or elesh norn to deal with pod
It's generally 50/50 or favored against anything that isn't Tron assuming proper construction, and gives tons of leverage to play-skill and experience with the format. If you're expecting heavy tron, that can be sideboarded for as well. That being said that's just me, I've had tons of practice with said deck and it fits my play style quite well. More than that, it's not a tier archetype since it takes a ton of practice, an expansive knowledge of the format, patience, and a realization that it's not a pre-made deck that you can just port from standard.
How does sideboarded geists work against tron in this MU?
I have an ester deck that me and blitz have been going back and forth discussing, but due to price and possible availability of cards i probably wouldn't be able to play it. the deck i have now and would definitely play would be hive mind. i have the deck and nothing changed in it and i know the deck better than any other deck.
short answer: possible esper midrange/ definitely hivemind
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Why? Because it's the best tempo deck there is and has at least a 50/50 match up vs everything but Jund and my win % vs Tron and Naya Pod is over 50%. Reason enough. Also I'm really comfortable with the deck and it's not so difficult to play that after 8 hours I want to turn my brain off.
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Probably merfolk with trickbind and spreading seas; everyone is running greedy manabases and I feel that should be exploited. It has a good matchup vs storm as well. I haven't decided if splashing white is worth it yet or not, I need to test more.
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I am going and I will be playing Jund. It is one of the top decks and it has good match ups against any creature deck and can win game two and three against storm.
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The problem with blue and cage is that it shuts off your snapcasters which are a large part of the UW restoration decks success =/. I'd rather just use mindcensors or elesh norn to deal with pod
How does sideboarded geists work against tron in this MU?
Most Tron decks will be running All is Dust and Pyroclasm somewhere in their 75. Best answer to Tron is Blood Moon (though I've won as Tron even with a Blood Moon out on the back of Wurmcoil). So it's not really an answer so much as its a threat if dropped early. T3 wurmcoil will still let them stabilize long enough to dig. A t3 geist just makes the clock a little faster if they don't find a stabilizer.
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Why? Because Illusions take care of the targeted removal with Spellskite and Lord of the Unreal. Krovikan Mist quickly gets out of range of pyroclasm. Lord is like playing 5 spellskites for Path, etc.
The deck can be very fast and has beaten all versions of Tron (after testing).
Why? Because Illusions take care of the targeted removal with Spellskite and Lord of the Unreal. Krovikan Mist quickly gets out of range of pyroclasm. Lord is like playing 5 spellskites for Path, etc.
The deck can be very fast and has beaten all versions of Tron (after testing).
Moreover, my guess is you haven't tested against people who actually play competitively, because they would have told you that you can't copy Emrakul and you can't steal him with Sower. That's what "protection from colored spells" means - you can't target him.
Kitchen table? Sounds like fun, maybe even OP on the goldfish. GP Top 8? I don't think so.
You actually can Clone him... and steal him with Sower.
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Why? I've played the deck extensively in the last couple months. I know how it works. I've tweaked it to include a card that isnt widely used (but should be)
2nd? either Affinity or UW Control with Restoration Angel. both are good. I'd probably play affinity over UW because i own all of Affinity.
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If not, if you are a very good technical player, I would play a UW control deck with Restoration Angel.
If you feel you need an edge, and most players do... I am not sure. Sit and look at the metagame and try to find a hole.
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It's generally 50/50 or favored against anything that isn't Tron assuming proper construction, and gives tons of leverage to play-skill and experience with the format. If you're expecting heavy tron, that can be sideboarded for as well. That being said that's just me, I've had tons of practice with said deck and it fits my play style quite well. More than that, it's not a tier archetype since it takes a ton of practice, an expansive knowledge of the format, patience, and a realization that it's not a pre-made deck that you can just port from standard.
If you're just looking to pick up a new deck without tons of experience in the format, I would probably lean toward UW tron. It's a powerful deck that has a lot of resilience, allows the player to leverage some playskill, but probably doesn't require the same degree of format knowledge as something like Pod or UW restoration tempo would to be successful with.
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Yes, but they play like different decks. UW Tron can play like a normal UW Control deck whereas RG is mainly a "assemble Tron asap or lose" deck.
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Cage is a problem, though the builds with multiple Pridemages can deal with it reasonably well and most builds still run four Angels and three to four Kikis so it's not as though they can't win through it.
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite is actually the best thing you can do against the deck.
This.
Gifts + Unburial Rites for Elesh Norn is really rough on Naya pod. They either have to have Zealous Conscripts or Phyrexian Metamorph in hand (of which they typically only play 1-2), or they essentially lose. They can occasionally pod into conscripts off Restoration angel, but it's still an uphill battle, and unless they can kill on the swing with conscripts and Elesh Norn, you just get Norn back and things go back to how they were. Even if they can deal with Elesh, it still essentially wraths their board and sets them way back.
As for RG tron, it's certainly powerful, but you're essentially going to be goldfishing for 8 straight hours, without any reliable way to win bad matchups. With RG Tron, you're essentially scooping to Storm Combo, Twin, and Hive Mind, and are probably subpar against the Pod Combo decks as well since they not only have land-destruction off pod typically, but they often can just combo out quicker and win. Some tron people think playing Mindslaver saves them against combo decks, but even with 7 mana on turn 3 (which is only happens around 30-40% of the time), they still need to draw the mindslaver, and even then can't activate until turn 4. Most of the combo decks win turn 3 / 4 in the format, and have disruption to back it up anyway, so that's not really a reliable strategy.
If I were going into GP columbus, I would be extra sure to have answers to birthing pod combo decks. If you're playing blue, I would be packing trinket mages with Grafdigger's Cage & Pithing needle in my 75 as they're reliable ways to shut off part of the pod decks efficiently. Needle also shuts down other relevant targets such as planeswalkers, cranial plating, manlands, sac triggers (viscera seer) or even something such as Grim Lavamancer. There isn't a modern deck in the format that doesn't make good use of activated abilities. Many decks rely heavily on activated abilities too (pod).
Volcanic fallout is another nice card to have this weekend. Faeries have seen a big rise in popularity, and while fallout won't kill goyfs, it does kill Geists, Delvers, and most other creatures in the format without being countered. At the very minimum, it's a nice sideboard consideration.
Finally, I wouldn't ignore the graveyard. There are tons of uses for efficient graveyard removal in the format. If you're not playing a deck that's super graveyard dependent, play Relic of Progenitus since it cantrips itself, or slowly eats an opponent's graveyard away until you don't need it anymore. Relic is much better than crypt or leylines against decks that aren't "all in" on using their graveyards such as Aggro Loam.
How does sideboarded geists work against tron in this MU?
short answer: possible esper midrange/ definitely hivemind
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Why? Because it's the best tempo deck there is and has at least a 50/50 match up vs everything but Jund and my win % vs Tron and Naya Pod is over 50%. Reason enough. Also I'm really comfortable with the deck and it's not so difficult to play that after 8 hours I want to turn my brain off.
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Most Tron decks will be running All is Dust and Pyroclasm somewhere in their 75. Best answer to Tron is Blood Moon (though I've won as Tron even with a Blood Moon out on the back of Wurmcoil). So it's not really an answer so much as its a threat if dropped early. T3 wurmcoil will still let them stabilize long enough to dig. A t3 geist just makes the clock a little faster if they don't find a stabilizer.
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Why? Because Illusions take care of the targeted removal with Spellskite and Lord of the Unreal. Krovikan Mist quickly gets out of range of pyroclasm. Lord is like playing 5 spellskites for Path, etc.
The deck can be very fast and has beaten all versions of Tron (after testing).
Worst matchups: Jund, RDW, Storm
Hurkyl's Recall usually takes care of Affinity.
A turn 2 Jace's Phantasm at 5/5 usually takes the game using Glimpse the Unthinkable, however it should not be relied on so 2-3 Glimpse is good.
Easily copy Emrakul with Image when running 4 Images and 4 Vials + 1 Sower of Temptation to just steal it.
Anyway, that's what I'm playing. It has potential to win actually or top 8 but usually you have to get Vial turn 1 or 2.
Edited because the initial reaction was a bit mean. Ill just leave a quick correction and let you figure out your deck on your own.
You can't copy Emrakul and you can't steal him with Sower. That's what "protection from colored spells" means - you can't "target" him with anything.
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You actually can Clone him... and steal him with Sower.
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