Wow, super surprised Wizard's seems to have committed to this. However New walkers or even just different art walkers are something that I was hoping for. Can't wait to see if it's just new art, or new actual cards.
Either way I'm happy Liliana and Ajani are seemingly getting replaced.
Please God, no Jace 2.0, almost 2 years with him around defining the format was already too much. Not to mention that if it's indeed the Mindsculptor, we'd lose the best weapon there is against him: Beleren.
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
I've seen Ajani in some decklists. His -1 is great for aggro-y decks. My T2 knight deck has a couple in it. Sure, he's not broken good, but not every 'walker can be Jace TMS.
I really don't like Walkers as a whole, they're too good with too few answers, and I'd rather have Lilly and Ajani than Gideon and Sorin as at least then Walkers are more of an after thought than the main focus of the deck...
I think they are really steering away from the core sets being meant for entry level play to the game. I mean Gideon and Sorin are not exactly beginner level cards imo. Personally I'm happy with the change though
Is it wrong to say I saw this coming? The Deckbuilder Toolkit v2 had Gideon and Sorin's art on it; it's not terribly strong evidence, but it's not as though Ajani 1.0 or Liliana have any reasonable fanbase, while Sorin is everything awesome about black in one card and Gideon represents the direction white has been taking more closely the last few years. If these are the five m12 walkers as I suspect, I will be very happy.
Why is it that I look at that pic and wonder How in the world does Jace roam around various planes in a robe and it still look like it's fresh off the shelf?
Now with that thought out of the way...10 walkers in one set would be fairly insane. Of course if this is supposed to be the summer of legends or whatever they call it you can't really go too far wrong than a big ol' meeting of large amounts of planeswalkers.
Well, can't say I'm disappointed with this change.
I have to wonder if they're going to try and give Gideon and Sorin new art or not. I actually really hope they don't.
Having said that, the line up art is honestly a lot better than either Jace or Chandra's upcoming art. Then again, those pieces are... not that great to start with.
so wizards isn't afraid to mix up the list of PWs. It now scares me that we'll see a reprint of jace, the mind sculptor. i just don't know how much longer i can tolerate him in standard.
also, no love for liliana? i admit that sorin is a more fun walker to play with and against. so that counts for something i guess. does this mean liliana will get updated in the next block? will we learn more about her? and what of garruk, will we see more of him too or not?
frankly, the possibilities this opens up make me pretty excited. good move, wotc.
Is it wrong to say I saw this coming? The Deckbuilder Toolkit v2 had Gideon and Sorin's art on it; it's not terribly strong evidence, but it's not as though Ajani 1.0 or Liliana have any reasonable fanbase, while Sorin is everything awesome about black in one card and Gideon represents the direction white has been taking more closely the last few years. If these are the five m12 walkers as I suspect, I will be very happy.
But now JacexLiliana fans lose to ChandraxGideon fans
Crap, I was counting on Gideon to rotate so that I could get my set back from my competitive friends. I was estatic when Elspeth didn't pop up in 2011 for that reason. Now I'll just amass more Goldmanes...
Sorrin over Liliana would be weird though, because as far as I knew, he got less play than Liliana, who at least had some.
I kinda want Jace 2 to see reprint, but I don't think him remaining in standard will dent his secondary market prices...
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Crap, I was counting on Gideon to rotate so that I could get my set back from my competitive friends. I was estatic when Elspeth didn't pop up in 2011 for that reason. Now I'll just amass more Goldmanes...
Sorrin over Liliana would be weird though, because as far as I knew, he got less play than Liliana, who at least had some.
I kinda want Jace 2 to see reprint, but I don't think him remaining in standard will dent his secondary market prices...
Jace being printed in a large set meant to be drafted as a triple will dent Jace's price some I'd say. Especially if they print another cycle like the Titans to send us into a buying frenzy.
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Either way I'm happy Liliana and Ajani are seemingly getting replaced.
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Weirdly, standard has been BAD since JTMS was banned, it hasn't been fun, nor healthy since.
Uhhh, these will be in the 'Planeswalkers slot'.
The titans are out too, but will be replaced with something else.
Liliana being out means Liliana 2.0 is coming this fall. FINALLY.
Any of the planeswalkers could get a retreatment for M12 though. I wouldn't put it past WoTC. Either way, Gideon Jura in the core set is solid.
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Jace 2.0 and Chandra 2.0 would be awesome.
A new Garruk? Please?
That would be nice. New Sorin in core and new Liliana in another set would make for a nice change in choices.
Now the question becomes- which 'walkers have new art- which have new cards, and which ones are simply reprints?
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Liliana and Ajani weren't bad enough dudes to save the president, I suppose.
On the other hand, it would pop the bubble on his price and sell an incredible amount of booster packs.
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I've seen Ajani in some decklists. His -1 is great for aggro-y decks. My T2 knight deck has a couple in it. Sure, he's not broken good, but not every 'walker can be Jace TMS.
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Now with that thought out of the way...10 walkers in one set would be fairly insane. Of course if this is supposed to be the summer of legends or whatever they call it you can't really go too far wrong than a big ol' meeting of large amounts of planeswalkers.
I have to wonder if they're going to try and give Gideon and Sorin new art or not. I actually really hope they don't.
Having said that, the line up art is honestly a lot better than either Jace or Chandra's upcoming art. Then again, those pieces are... not that great to start with.
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also, no love for liliana? i admit that sorin is a more fun walker to play with and against. so that counts for something i guess. does this mean liliana will get updated in the next block? will we learn more about her? and what of garruk, will we see more of him too or not?
frankly, the possibilities this opens up make me pretty excited. good move, wotc.
But now JacexLiliana fans lose to ChandraxGideon fans
I'm really happy to see Gideon in a coreset.
^ That is what I read when I saw this post and I couldn't help but picture that and start laughing.
Sorrin over Liliana would be weird though, because as far as I knew, he got less play than Liliana, who at least had some.
I kinda want Jace 2 to see reprint, but I don't think him remaining in standard will dent his secondary market prices...
Jace being printed in a large set meant to be drafted as a triple will dent Jace's price some I'd say. Especially if they print another cycle like the Titans to send us into a buying frenzy.