if that jace is jace2.0 then his price will fall like baneslayer angel. And Magic 2012 will sell like cold Sprite on desert.
Well when M11 first came out, BSA still grabbed some okay prices... it wasn't until it couldn't find a home in new standard that it really dropped. Same thing would happen to Jace, but he's far more likely to have a home in a new environment. So I don't think he'd drop more than half if reprinted. Which is still silly enough.
Well when M11 first came out, BSA still grabbed some okay prices... it wasn't until it couldn't find a home in new standard that it really dropped. Same thing would happen to Jace, but he's far more likely to have a home in a new environment. So I don't think he'd drop more than half if reprinted. Which is still silly enough.
i would say that IF it's jace 2.0 then it will drop more than half of his current price. Probably 25$-30$ Mythic Planeswalker. Why? Because demand will not rise, and the number of Jaces will drastically rise.
i would say that IF it's jace 2.0 then it will drop more than half of his current price. Probably 25$-30$ Mythic Planeswalker. Why? Because demand will not rise, and the number of Jaces will drastically rise.
And yes he's still one of the most powerful permanents ever.
And exatly tha's what i need, hope you too J-TMC for everyone for a reasonable price! ^^
Anyway, I think the people who would enjoy the Jace TMS reprint would outnumber those that don't. I also expect a new Gideon, so this set should sell like crazy.
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I would really like a Sphinx planeswalker too. Thinking about it, the only mono-blue Planeswalkers are both human males. I know, Tezzeret has his metal arm and etherium stuff, but he's still human as far as I know. I'd also like a Merfolk planeswalker! They brought Merfolk back, now it's time to give them a Planeswalker too!
A Treefolk planeswalker would be the coolest thing that could happen in Magic, lol.
I'd like an Angel, Faerie or Dryad planeswalker myself.
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Sorin and Gideon are both a little too weird in their current forms for base set...
not to mention that Sorin has the 10 life mechanic (a block mechanic) and Mindslaver as an ultimate... doesn't seem like the kind of thing they'd put into core set, even at mythic...
Sorin and Gideon as-is do seem weird for a coreset, but what are they really going to do with them? New cards for them all seems a bit odd, although it is truly what I want. Who knows. And to those saying TMS...not happening, if it does, I'll be sure to happily send my first M12 copy of TMS to the first person to reply to this post. Seriously.
Sorin and Gideon as-is do seem weird for a coreset, but what are they really going to do with them? New cards for them all seems a bit odd, although it is truly what I want. Who knows. And to those saying TMS...not happening, if it does, I'll be sure to happily send my first M12 copy of TMS to the first person to reply to this post. Seriously.
I'll take you up on that offer.:D (It's always good to hedge your bets)
Unusual that they would (I know not confirmed) replace originals, but it makes sense as Lily and Ajani are never played. Makes sense to print walkers more people are interested in and are willing to buy.
Clearly you never played WW in extended before.
As for me, I'm glad Gideon is being reprinted, that'll cut the price on him a bit. And Sorin is even more unplayable than Liliana in standard, but very powerful when he comes out. Are Wizards catering to casual players now?
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As for me, I'm glad Gideon is being reprinted, that'll cut the price on him a bit. And Sorin is even more unplayable than Liliana in standard, but very powerful when he comes out. Are Wizards catering to casual players now?
I have some ideas for Sorin in standard, but not enough for me to drop 10 or more each on a set of him to play with.
Hopefully this could put him into the $5 range and I will bite and see what I can come up with.
Also you have to remember, the M12 set will be structured to flow with not only things from action and the current block, but also 'shake' 'rattle' and 'roll'.
As for me, I'm glad Gideon is being reprinted, that'll cut the price on him a bit. And Sorin is even more unplayable than Liliana in standard, but very powerful when he comes out. Are Wizards catering to casual players now?
Wizards has been catering to the casual crowd more and more over the past couple of years, in particular. It's not surprising, what with their recent support of the EDH/"Commander" format and casual multi-player formats like Archenemy and Planechase, that they would extend this more to their core product. Casual players buy the most packs, and the most general product. Wizards know where their bottom line is, and they throw a bone to the casuals and competitive fans at the same time.
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Sorin and Gideon are both a little too weird in their current forms for base set...
not to mention that Sorin has the 10 life mechanic (a block mechanic) and Mindslaver as an ultimate... doesn't seem like the kind of thing they'd put into core set, even at mythic...
could be wrong though. :/
I think the ten life thing is supposed to be a general vampire mechanic, which they will bring back in any set where vampires play a prominent part. It's flavor specific to vampires, not just the vampires of Zendikar.
I'm going to be pissed if my 4 Jace TMS lose their value due to reprint....it will be bane slayer all over again.
Seriously? That is why you dump them and pick them up cheaper. I have friends like you, and they all complain too. I ask why they held onto them and they can't give me an answer. Because cards WILL NEVER hold their values. They will always fluctuate.
Which is why I buy cards based on whether or not I'm willing to pay that much to have them, not based on them retaining that value later.
I'd like an Angel, Faerie or Dryad planeswalker myself.
QTF. An angel planeswalker would be rad. My favorite planeswalker ever would be one that makes angel tokens. Angels are awesomesause. Mythic rares with sexy women on them are better then ones with ugly creature types, so all those creature types would be pretty awesome. That said, it would be neat if Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni became a planeswalker or they made a Gobin planeswalker. Didn't Squee become immortal for a while? That counts right?
Speaking of Hot women planeswalkers, is Jaya Ballard ever going to come back? It kinda bothers me that that thread is still hanging.
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I think its for the new game coming out, but if its the new core set that's pretty awesome. Besides the fact sorin sucks
Sorin doesn't actually suck. He's really good, the casting cost they had to print him at is pretty bad. Also, as far as characters go, Sorin is a significantly better character than the other planeswalker (not that that's saying much).
Besides, if he's moving core then that means we'll be seeing a new version of him sometime soon.
Hopefully black will be getting a good planes walker finally.
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They just replaced the worst ones with better ones. Only really bad one left is Chandra. Then Sorin, which is quite bad but not as bad as Liliana. Still waiting for a good 4CMC PW for my favorite color. Had to be the last one to get one.
Look, just because he's civilized about it, maybe he puts a napkin in his shirt, maybe he says "Thank you," when he's done; none of that changes the fact that he's feeding on people! He a monstrous- wait, what? Oh, we're talking about playability....carry on then.
PS: All Chandra Ablaze needs is reprint of Squee, Goblin Nabob, and for Geosurge to be a half decent ritual. *gives the evil eye to Pyretic Ritual, then dusts the framed copies of Rite of Flame and Seething Song* Why couldn't you be more like your brothers?!
They just replaced the worst ones with better ones. Only really bad one left is Chandra. Then Sorin, which is quite bad but not as bad as Liliana. Still waiting for a good 4CMC PW for my favorite color. Had to be the last one to get one.
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if that jace is jace2.0 then his price will fall like baneslayer angel. And Magic 2012 will sell like cold Sprite on desert.
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Well when M11 first came out, BSA still grabbed some okay prices... it wasn't until it couldn't find a home in new standard that it really dropped. Same thing would happen to Jace, but he's far more likely to have a home in a new environment. So I don't think he'd drop more than half if reprinted. Which is still silly enough.
i would say that IF it's jace 2.0 then it will drop more than half of his current price. Probably 25$-30$ Mythic Planeswalker. Why? Because demand will not rise, and the number of Jaces will drastically rise.
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ahahahaha, yes! i think they could have done better with him, according to his original PW art
on that note, improved Sorin abilities FTW!!
And yes he's still one of the most powerful permanents ever.
And exatly tha's what i need, hope you too J-TMC for everyone for a reasonable price! ^^
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Anyway, I think the people who would enjoy the Jace TMS reprint would outnumber those that don't. I also expect a new Gideon, so this set should sell like crazy.
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Which is why I buy cards based on whether or not I'm willing to pay that much to have them, not based on them retaining that value later.
I'd like an Angel, Faerie or Dryad planeswalker myself.
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not to mention that Sorin has the 10 life mechanic (a block mechanic) and Mindslaver as an ultimate... doesn't seem like the kind of thing they'd put into core set, even at mythic...
could be wrong though. :/
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Clearly you never played WW in extended before.
As for me, I'm glad Gideon is being reprinted, that'll cut the price on him a bit. And Sorin is even more unplayable than Liliana in standard, but very powerful when he comes out. Are Wizards catering to casual players now?
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I have some ideas for Sorin in standard, but not enough for me to drop 10 or more each on a set of him to play with.
Hopefully this could put him into the $5 range and I will bite and see what I can come up with.
Also you have to remember, the M12 set will be structured to flow with not only things from action and the current block, but also 'shake' 'rattle' and 'roll'.
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Wizards has been catering to the casual crowd more and more over the past couple of years, in particular. It's not surprising, what with their recent support of the EDH/"Commander" format and casual multi-player formats like Archenemy and Planechase, that they would extend this more to their core product. Casual players buy the most packs, and the most general product. Wizards know where their bottom line is, and they throw a bone to the casuals and competitive fans at the same time.
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I think the ten life thing is supposed to be a general vampire mechanic, which they will bring back in any set where vampires play a prominent part. It's flavor specific to vampires, not just the vampires of Zendikar.
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Seriously? That is why you dump them and pick them up cheaper. I have friends like you, and they all complain too. I ask why they held onto them and they can't give me an answer. Because cards WILL NEVER hold their values. They will always fluctuate.
QTF. An angel planeswalker would be rad. My favorite planeswalker ever would be one that makes angel tokens. Angels are awesomesause. Mythic rares with sexy women on them are better then ones with ugly creature types, so all those creature types would be pretty awesome. That said, it would be neat if Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni became a planeswalker or they made a Gobin planeswalker. Didn't Squee become immortal for a while? That counts right?
Speaking of Hot women planeswalkers, is Jaya Ballard ever going to come back? It kinda bothers me that that thread is still hanging.
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Sorin doesn't actually suck. He's really good, the casting cost they had to print him at is pretty bad. Also, as far as characters go, Sorin is a significantly better character than the other planeswalker (not that that's saying much).
Besides, if he's moving core then that means we'll be seeing a new version of him sometime soon.
Hopefully black will be getting a good planes walker finally.
So these will be the PWs we will see in M12, I'm 99% sure:
Jace Beleren
Garruk
Chandra Ablaze
Sorin (original)
Gideon (original)
They just replaced the worst ones with better ones. Only really bad one left is Chandra. Then Sorin, which is quite bad but not as bad as Liliana. Still waiting for a good 4CMC PW for my favorite color. Had to be the last one to get one.
Look, just because he's civilized about it, maybe he puts a napkin in his shirt, maybe he says "Thank you," when he's done; none of that changes the fact that he's feeding on people! He a monstrous- wait, what? Oh, we're talking about playability....carry on then.
PS: All Chandra Ablaze needs is reprint of Squee, Goblin Nabob, and for Geosurge to be a half decent ritual. *gives the evil eye to Pyretic Ritual, then dusts the framed copies of Rite of Flame and Seething Song* Why couldn't you be more like your brothers?!
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they're not reprinting JTMS. Wizards even said Jace 2.0 was one of their biggest mistakes
Also, Koth sucks.
Link or it never happened.
Jace is good, even really good, but it's hard to say he was a mistake on par with Skull Clamp or Urza's Block.
No they didn't. Players have said this over and over, before attempting to argue that Wizards said this, when they haven't.
Wizards outrightedly said they made Jace TMS to make blue good again after Shards block.
I think it has do with this thread and where is the comment about making blue good again with JTMS at?