I hope I'm not asking something really stupid, but Why? I can't see any instance where the ingestor will be competitve. I wouldn't even throw it into a causal deck. Please someone enlighten me. In a golden set, this card is a turd.
Yeah it isn't that good. It's unplayable for standard, but it's not the worst for say, draft or even a casual deck. You can call it completely unusable, but honestly, there are worse cards.
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I hope I'm not asking something really stupid, but Why? I can't see any instance where the ingestor will be competitve. I wouldn't even throw it into a causal deck. Please someone enlighten me. In a golden set, this card is a turd.
Every set consists mostly of cards that will not see competitive play. What's so special about Phyrexian Ingester?
At any rate, obviously the card won't ever see play in constructed, but even though it's expensive at 7 mana, I'll always play it in limited if I'm blue. Blue rarely, if ever, gets direct, permanent removal. This card can really swing games. Remove a troublesome guy from their side of the board and get your own fatty. You could do a lot worse for seven mana.
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I actually really like it. It's flavorful, blue creature removal, and possibly a big guy, the last two of which blue doesn't get that often. Not every card is supposed to make the top tables.
However, in today's culture of Justin Bieber, Jersey Shore, and Twilight, where every song on the radio, every program on television and every site on the internet is just another monument to the pinnacle of human stupidity, it's certainly not the worst thing that people could be watching.
However, in today's culture of Justin Bieber, Jersey Shore, and Twilight, where every song on the radio, every program on television and every site on the internet is just another monument to the pinnacle of human stupidity, it's certainly not the worst thing that people could be watching.
Are people serious? For one extra mana stopping an opponent's wurmcoil from dropping a lifelinker and deathtoucher is pretty damn good. Especially if you dropped something like that in a mimic vat. There is nothing unplayable about that.
It's a good card for limited which will make the cut in any blue deck and that i'd happily splash for if I had another solid blue card or 2.
In constructed Yes it's unplayable but pretty much every 7 or more cost creature is unplayable(and most of the 6 cost ones are obsoleted by Wurmcoil and the Titans).
As for Casual it's a perfect fit into any blue using EDH deck as a 2nd copy of Duplicant(the 1 extra mana is irrelevant in EDH and the extra +3/+3 is pretty good).
I realize that sets will have "bad" cards but again such an epic turd? I mean if his mana cost was reduced by two, the ingestor would be pretty good.
This is far, far from an "epic turd" of a card. Defensive Stance, that's an "epic turd." I can't figure out what's so bad with the Ingester that it's inspired you to create a thread about how bad it is and use such hyperbole.
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I hope I'm not asking something really stupid, but Why? I can't see any instance where the ingestor will be competitve. I wouldn't even throw it into a causal deck. Please someone enlighten me. In a golden set, this card is a turd.
You do realize it exiles any non-token as long as it doesn't have shroud right? While still having a body.
In fact it provides the same primary function as Spine did in those Venser decks that actually made a few competitive showings [frequent enough on MTGO that I'd see 1-2 across my matchups in the constructed queues I did for a couple weeks there] for the same CMC and removing any chance of the item returning.
Sure, using it requires some degree of ramping mana to be effective - but considering it can be easily repeatable removal + a bomb with some bouncing I fail to see how it's even remotely bad. [Look at Draining Whelk from the past which only cost 1 less, and while it was slightly more versatile had to be proactive and was almost always MUCH smaller]
You want real stinkers amongst the rares? Look at Glistening Oil, Psychic Surgery, and Soul Conduit.
The only thing it's missing is either Shroud or some type of 'evasion'.
As is, this is actually a decent card for the cost as far as blue goes (and its beat sticks). Remove a fatty, get one yourself.
Keep in mind this is a format where Eldrazi are still mucking about.
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I think it is indeed people not realizing you can target enemy creatures. Its not just a duplicant +1, its actually a duplicant +3/+3 for an extra blue. And as people have said, blue doesn't ever get direct removal. This is very pricy- more than colorless removal options, but gives you a beater and direct removal all in a color that violates the pie. Hence its not even a bad card for constructed. Its sure as heck not a good card, but I would run it over 90% of other cruddy blue beaters- its card advantage as soon as it hits the table, giving you a total edge in a race and shutting down wurmcoils and other dies or regen creatures hard.
Its not good enough to see play, but its not a bad card by any stretch.
I guess it just fits the play style. I like to build decks with very low mana curves, or ones that get a crazy amount of land/mana out to do with what you like. Maybe I was overzealous in saying it's an epic turd. The exile an opponent's creature is not that bad. I just saw the CMC and scoffed. I can see the redeeming qualities, but it's just not something I would play
I don't think I'm going to complain about any card until they print something that is worse than razor boomerang.
I tried to make a combo deck that took 5-6 other cards to make it semi-work, but even and it still was worthless.
Now the phyrexian guy on the other hand, I'd first pick'em.
I actually love this guy. I run a Grixis deck in casual that uses 1x Nicol Bolas (the dragon), 2x Blood Tyrant, and 2x Phyrexian Ingestor as it's finishers and since I acquired the card the deck has gotten far more powerful. I actually use him over Kokusho, which is saying something. Being able to remove the top end of your opponent's curve and then just beat them senseless is crazy-good.
Maybe it's just that good because my deck always "gets there" (as in to the late game) because of all of the sweepers and other removal I run (4 Counterspells, 4 Terminates, 4 Black Sun's Zenith, 4 Damnation...), but I still find this card to be incredibly flavorful and powerful, which is a hard combination to pull off in a set that is overshadowed by the Praetors and Obliterator.
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Every set consists mostly of cards that will not see competitive play. What's so special about Phyrexian Ingester?
At any rate, obviously the card won't ever see play in constructed, but even though it's expensive at 7 mana, I'll always play it in limited if I'm blue. Blue rarely, if ever, gets direct, permanent removal. This card can really swing games. Remove a troublesome guy from their side of the board and get your own fatty. You could do a lot worse for seven mana.
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That's actually a pretty good point. If you had to exile your own creature, it would be significantly worse.
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In constructed Yes it's unplayable but pretty much every 7 or more cost creature is unplayable(and most of the 6 cost ones are obsoleted by Wurmcoil and the Titans).
As for Casual it's a perfect fit into any blue using EDH deck as a 2nd copy of Duplicant(the 1 extra mana is irrelevant in EDH and the extra +3/+3 is pretty good).
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This is far, far from an "epic turd" of a card. Defensive Stance, that's an "epic turd." I can't figure out what's so bad with the Ingester that it's inspired you to create a thread about how bad it is and use such hyperbole.
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You do realize it exiles any non-token as long as it doesn't have shroud right? While still having a body.
In fact it provides the same primary function as Spine did in those Venser decks that actually made a few competitive showings [frequent enough on MTGO that I'd see 1-2 across my matchups in the constructed queues I did for a couple weeks there] for the same CMC and removing any chance of the item returning.
Sure, using it requires some degree of ramping mana to be effective - but considering it can be easily repeatable removal + a bomb with some bouncing I fail to see how it's even remotely bad. [Look at Draining Whelk from the past which only cost 1 less, and while it was slightly more versatile had to be proactive and was almost always MUCH smaller]
You want real stinkers amongst the rares? Look at Glistening Oil, Psychic Surgery, and Soul Conduit.
Re: People misusing the term Vanilla to describe a flying, unleash (sometimes trample) critter.
As is, this is actually a decent card for the cost as far as blue goes (and its beat sticks). Remove a fatty, get one yourself.
Keep in mind this is a format where Eldrazi are still mucking about.
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Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
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Its not good enough to see play, but its not a bad card by any stretch.
I tried to make a combo deck that took 5-6 other cards to make it semi-work, but even and it still was worthless.
Now the phyrexian guy on the other hand, I'd first pick'em.
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Maybe it's just that good because my deck always "gets there" (as in to the late game) because of all of the sweepers and other removal I run (4 Counterspells, 4 Terminates, 4 Black Sun's Zenith, 4 Damnation...), but I still find this card to be incredibly flavorful and powerful, which is a hard combination to pull off in a set that is overshadowed by the Praetors and Obliterator.
Seems fair.
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