1x Island
1x City of Traitors
1x Genju of the Falls
Next?
Looks like the options are getting limited........good luck with this one, and I did read the list so I aplogizes for that last deck I made.
No waste effects left,
No needle,
No direct damage that will still allow another deck to win,
Plus will come down fast and clean,
this should be interesting.......
Just because someone came at me so fast with a solid reply {I'm throwing one I was going to save for later}.......take this for the Boot,
1x Snow-Covered Swamp
1x Swamp
1x Wall of Souls
you attack........you DIE, you don't I'm calling a judge over for stalling lol........split the prize with a DRAW?
S.M.
Kill this! I know you'll get me, but come on this one is sick......going in my Common/Uncommon Cube this one drop is that's for sure after searching for a way to battle that last post.....6/1 wow!
1x Plains
1x Bonesplitter
1x Kor Duelist
Next?
Ok take this;
1x Saprazzan Skerry
1x Pongify
1x Wall of Tears
Damn me and you back and forth....this is a good one! Kinda like a chess move....you attack and your creature is bounced........I'll stall, you use that spell and you're dead......Pongify my wall when the dust settles.....Draw?
S.M.
No it depends on his move if it's a stale mate......I have a clear chance of a win........This is the game, and if you breakdown my deck you can see that.
If I'm breaking the rules with some solid intellect here.......then I apologize and will go with more simple routes so overs don't have to think about my moves so hard. Besides the member going back and forth with me........is way to good to let this one stop him.
Again I'm sorry if this is a rule breaker,
S.M.
But the games are resolved with "perfect play": You know your opponent's cards and make the best play, much like a machine would decide for you. You "play" two games (one starting on the play, other on the draw) and each game can end with a Win (W), a Draw (D) or a Lose (L) for you....
Card Blind has plenty of variants and today I'll start the "Speed" variant and play it with 3 cards. All you have to do is submit a deck (of 3 cards) that "WW" the previous deck: Win the game when it starts on the play and also win the game when it starts on the draw.
The OP describes what is required. The issue here is the definition of "ideal". Your most recent deck v. the previous has something like this happen:
Opp drops Mountain, Fanatic.
You drop your land, next turn play the Wall.
Opp attacks into the Wall.
You Pongify your Wall or the Fanatic, whenever you want; it doesn't end up mattering:
If you get an Ape, your opp. will hit it for one with the Mogg and another 2 with the Spray. Neither player has a further way to win.
If you give your opp. the Ape, neither of you will have a way to win. Combat damage + Spray kills the Wall, but the token ceases to exist once it is bounced.
Similarly, in the example before, your Duelist will just trade with the Leech.
You guys decide who goes next beating whom, it's late and I'm not thinking very clearly.
Ok take this;
1x Saprazzan Skerry
1x Pongify
1x Wall of Tears
Damn me and you back and forth....this is a good one! Kinda like a chess move....you attack and your creature is bounced........I'll stall, you use that spell and you're dead......Pongify my wall when the dust settles.....Draw?
S.M.
I'm just topping you, I don't care too much about the logistics of you topping me.
I'm sorry. This doesn't beat the Disciple of Grace deck, because it will only play ONE Disciple of Grace and if you play Echoing Trugh on it, it will be replayed and keep beating and will win the race if I'm right.
Also, as other said, it is important that if you post a deck which the opponent can get a draw in some way, not matter how, it is an invalid deck, because a Draw is a possible option in this game and is better than a Lose.
I'll add the used cards to the ban list because it is too much work to go back to a game where valid decks were entried.
Should I always ASSUME the other person goes first for this THREAD? I must have missed that in your rules..........or it's not there.
I lay tapped land, go
he lays tapped land, go
I lay Cloud P go
he lays one Dic go
I swing for the kill if he doesn't lay his other Dic.......I'll always be up one point of damage ahead.........he lays the other DIC then I'll bounce both for the win.....or am I missing something/this is a clear win if I'm going first?
Like I said I'm not going to post easy decks for simple wins........that's not me.
I lay tapped land, go
he lays tapped land, go
I lay Cloud P go
he lays one Dic go
I swing for the kill if he doesn't lay his other Dic.......I'll always be up one point of damage ahead.........he lays the other DIC then I'll bounce both for the win.....or am I missing something/this is a clear win if I'm going first?
Like I said I'm not going to post easy decks for simple wins........that's not me.
About who starts the game: You play two games. One you start, the other starts your opponent. You should get a Win in both games. But your deck beats on both games so no problem.
Wait. You don't win there. You just shut down the Apes' bonus and get another Draw because you won't attack: if you attack, he will block you with both 1/1s and will end with no creatures. So you can't Win.
Now that would be my BAD......
My brain hurts........I'm gong to sit a play or 2 out....
P.S. have you ever thought about allowing just one use from a NONBasic Land?
Oh and caught that deck you listed but pulled off PanchoPonce {Your EDIT}........you would have been dead before that PITFIGHTER would ever hit the board against those APES.
Dwarven Hold
Rakka Mar
1x Disfigure
1x Mishra's Factory
next?
Disfigure was already used. Please check the ban list!
Anyway, I'll beat the last deck...
[Clan Flamingo]
The clan for custom card creators!
1x City of Traitors
1x Genju of the Falls
Next?
Looks like the options are getting limited........good luck with this one, and I did read the list so I aplogizes for that last deck I made.
No waste effects left,
No needle,
No direct damage that will still allow another deck to win,
Plus will come down fast and clean,
this should be interesting.......
1x Snow-Covered Swamp
1x Swamp
1x Wall of Souls
you attack........you DIE, you don't I'm calling a judge over for stalling lol........split the prize with a DRAW?
S.M.
1x Plains
1x Bonesplitter
1x Kor Duelist
Next?
1x Saprazzan Skerry
1x Pongify
1x Wall of Tears
Damn me and you back and forth....this is a good one! Kinda like a chess move....you attack and your creature is bounced........I'll stall, you use that spell and you're dead......Pongify my wall when the dust settles.....Draw?
S.M.
If I'm breaking the rules with some solid intellect here.......then I apologize and will go with more simple routes so overs don't have to think about my moves so hard. Besides the member going back and forth with me........is way to good to let this one stop him.
Again I'm sorry if this is a rule breaker,
S.M.
The OP describes what is required. The issue here is the definition of "ideal". Your most recent deck v. the previous has something like this happen:
Opp drops Mountain, Fanatic.
You drop your land, next turn play the Wall.
Opp attacks into the Wall.
You Pongify your Wall or the Fanatic, whenever you want; it doesn't end up mattering:
If you get an Ape, your opp. will hit it for one with the Mogg and another 2 with the Spray. Neither player has a further way to win.
If you give your opp. the Ape, neither of you will have a way to win. Combat damage + Spray kills the Wall, but the token ceases to exist once it is bounced.
Similarly, in the example before, your Duelist will just trade with the Leech.
You guys decide who goes next beating whom, it's late and I'm not thinking very clearly.
I'm just topping you, I don't care too much about the logistics of you topping me.
Disciple of Grace
Remote Farm
1x Echoing Truth
1x Cloud Pirates
Next?
I'm sorry. This doesn't beat the Disciple of Grace deck, because it will only play ONE Disciple of Grace and if you play Echoing Trugh on it, it will be replayed and keep beating and will win the race if I'm right.
Also, as other said, it is important that if you post a deck which the opponent can get a draw in some way, not matter how, it is an invalid deck, because a Draw is a possible option in this game and is better than a Lose.
I'll add the used cards to the ban list because it is too much work to go back to a game where valid decks were entried.
Please, keep having fun! =)
[Clan Flamingo]
The clan for custom card creators!
I lay tapped land, go
he lays tapped land, go
I lay Cloud P go
he lays one Dic go
I swing for the kill if he doesn't lay his other Dic.......I'll always be up one point of damage ahead.........he lays the other DIC then I'll bounce both for the win.....or am I missing something/this is a clear win if I'm going first?
Like I said I'm not going to post easy decks for simple wins........that's not me.
I'm sorry. I thought Saprazzan Skerry was Saprazzan Cove. Reading card is tech.
To repay my mistake, here is a deck that beats yours:
About who starts the game: You play two games. One you start, the other starts your opponent. You should get a Win in both games. But your deck beats on both games so no problem.
[Clan Flamingo]
The clan for custom card creators!
1x Grim Monolith
1x Magus of the Moon
Next?
So, here is a deck that Win both games:
Edited: Sorry. I gotta go. See ya later!
[Clan Flamingo]
The clan for custom card creators!
My brain hurts........I'm gong to sit a play or 2 out....
P.S. have you ever thought about allowing just one use from a NONBasic Land?
Oh and caught that deck you listed but pulled off PanchoPonce {Your EDIT}........you would have been dead before that PITFIGHTER would ever hit the board against those APES.