I hate to say this but I believe this was the appropriate action after everything that went down and especially the way it went down. Almost seems like a setup looking back a little but that's crazy now isn't it?
@Bel: Sorry things had to go down this way but like I said it had to... I may not know you at all but I think you can take comfort in the fact that at least you and Raia are still together (right?)
Lastly, I'm not sure the exact reason why Bel was fired should be public but I do believe Feyd when he says it's not the love factor. In fact, I'd bet its probably a pile of things that all toppled with all the forum drama that's gone around lately....
I sure as hell hope not. I love this site because it is so active. The last place I was at became a friggin' graveyard before I left. If this becomes another dead Magic message board, I'm going to cry.
I'd like to add some stuff here.... first I sincerely do hope that Raia, Qwerty, and Alex do stay... like I said I may not really know them... but Id hate if we lose more ppl over this... also speculation on what they would do is stupid... I'd ask ppl to stop that but I'm not a mod now am i?
Secondly, I know this may be too quick to answer this question, but, is there going to be another admin hired eventually? or is Gobboboy going to be the only one?
I would hope that there would be a second hired, as I feel it is important to have two people in that department. That way, power is shared and power abuse cannot (or should not) occur.
I think we're all going to have to wait to figure out what will be going on in regards to staff.
The man who would have given you a warning for that.
Anyway apparntly Belgareth is closing his MSN and getting a new one to break all ties to us although he said we could catch him. Sad. He has made some other claims too but...meh.
Just wondering, how will this effect the Forum Awards?
Personally I never liked Bel or BB18. I am glad they are both gone. Now that they are gone it makes this site 259.86% better. Now only if we could make some others leave...
Watch it kiddo. We are talking about the people who helped build this site.
Actually I was just being a smart ***. As much as I miss Bel and BB(sorry Mike never knew you BUT more then likely would of gotten along) I'm sticking. Just means I am gonna be on more then Just Here and the Source(Just Floats there)
BB18 and Bel were pretty cool and I used to look up to their insane post counts as a nOOb. I am glad Mike will keep posting at least...
I really hope this isn't the beggining of the end. I don't want this site to go the way of news.
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I'd just like to say that I always liked Bel - as a person. Some of the things he has done while in his position I can't say I agree with, however.
And I also find it highly unlikely that anyone else would leave simply because others have. As much as people typically like to pretend they are loyal to there friends, they are loyal to themselves much more and I'd find it very surprising if someone gave up there moderator position for a friend. Though, I suppose the exception would be to Belgs girlfriend, since if she actually does love him, and he got her the position, she would resign as well.
But, as much as it pains me to say it, (I'd rather you all come back to 'News) Salvation will live on.
What the ****...I thought this was a joke thread when I first saw it, I didn't think anyone had actually gotten rid of Bel...He's supposed to always be with us, a continual presence like The Man. Damn.
Well, farewell.
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Nothing like TFE to break the ice......I really am just speakless.....I want to see the site go on but this is a different site now all together and the T2 forums *shudders in fear* I just dont see whats going to happen. I am sorry to all involved in this once again. And just......yea and.....i think thats where MTGSalvation is at now
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Don't worry so much... I'm sure theyre going to get some people in quickly. If there's one thing I do know about the staff of salvation, is that they work quickly to resolve problems. I'm sure this will be no different.
Ummm... I think you were thinking more about sweet bread and butter like love sneaky
And I also find it highly unlikely that anyone else would leave simply because others have.
*cough*
Hmmm, where have I seen an example of that before? Oh!! Rancored_Elf? Less than a year ago? This exact same thing happened! Just switch "Hannes" with "Raa" and "Belgareth" with "Subterranean_Spirit"? Ring any bells, Alyssa?
As for Belgareth leaving, I am impartial. I always had a bad feeling about him, since he seemed to have a "I can do whatever I want" attitude, which is false, since Hannes is the only person who can do that. I love Hannes. I love you Hannes. Please promote me!
Anyways, Bel was never a jerk to me. He was just a jerk around me. I wish that he would stay as a poster, since leaving a site altogether is never a good thing.
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I'm sad to see Belgareth go, too. I never had much interaction with any of the admins, but Bel always seemed like a nice guy and was well-liked. I wish I knew what exactly had happened to make it turn out this way. I hope they were good reasons. Nevertheless, it's sad. I'm not going to start panicking and saying everyone's going to leave - I don't think MTGS members are like that. We'll stick around, keep the place going. I only hope there aren't too many problems in the way of moderation now that we're short a few guys. I would really hope that Bel and others could come back or at least we should get new mods quick. Again, not panicking, but I think it's in the best interest of the site. So was Bel's firing, I hope. Anyway, sorry to see you go, Bel, and that's enough ranting out of me.
What we're doing here is akin to taking the text of Moby Dick, locating specific words therein, rearranging them to create a passage from Fight Club, and concluding from this evidence that Tyler Durden is based on Ahab.
The situation is obviously fairly different this time around. A couple of Staff members are leaving..not 12. And R_E isn't one of them. This site has gotten used to burning through Admins, it seems like. Hopefully that will stop now, though. It won't be a big problem.
I'd just like to say that I always liked Bel - as a person. Some of the things he has done while in his position I can't say I agree with, however.
Can someone please inform the masses of what these "things" are, exactly? I think everyone should know the details of this ordeal in order to assess the situation for themselves and not have to accept what has been posted by other members.
I'm lost, but definitely sad to see Belgareth leave.
A hardy, "Good luck!" to you.
Though, I suppose the exception would be to Belgs girlfriend, since if she actually does love him, and he got her the position, she would resign as well.
You are not the brightest crayon in the box are you? What does love have anything to do with resigning from a position? That is like saying: I got her the job. I am fired because I am a loser. Now she should quit because I am no longer there. Because if she doesnt then she doesnt love me.
PP: Please stay in school. Also you dont know anything about anything it seems. Love is the first thing on that list as well.
Belgareth in the few encounters I knew him was blunt, but knowledgable. (both qualities that I respect) His moderating often revealed his youth. (ie. emotional)
I'm not going to pretend like these others that I will miss you Belgareth. If you stop posting you will soon be forgotten and become simply an interesting piece of history for these forums.
You were a great asset to the forums (notice already past tense) and I will be extremely disappointed if you stop posting on the forums.
Be the hero dammit. Just keep posting. You have the respect of the masses and that means a heck of a lot more than a tag under your name that says Moderator.
Be the hero dammit. Just keep posting. You have the respect of the masses and that means a heck of a lot more than a tag under your name that says Moderator.
Completely agreeing with this.
And no, I don't think this is like the situation at News, either. No one's corrupt, not *everyone* is leaving, and hell, we still have R_E.
Also agreeing with the fact that this thread moves quickly.
What we're doing here is akin to taking the text of Moby Dick, locating specific words therein, rearranging them to create a passage from Fight Club, and concluding from this evidence that Tyler Durden is based on Ahab.
Belgareth in the few encounters I knew him was blunt, but knowledgable. (both qualities that I respect) His moderating often revealed his youth. (ie. emotional)
I'm not going to pretend like these others that I will miss you Belgareth. If you stop posting you will soon be forgotten and become simply an interesting piece of history for these forums.
You were a great asset to the forums (notice already past tense) and I will be extremely disappointed if you stop posting on the forums.
Be the hero dammit. Just keep posting. You have the respect of the masses and that means a heck of a lot more than a tag under your name that says Moderator.
As a member of said masses (note the low post count), I agree. We'll all pull for you, Bel! Just keep posting!
That is like saying: I got her the job. I am fired because I am a loser. Now she should quit because I am no longer there. Because if she doesnt then she doesnt love me.
Didn't that happen in Jerry Maguire? Hey Belgareth, SHOW ME THE MONEY!!
I'm quite sad about all of this. BB18 was a friend
He made my kickass banner and was a good clansman.
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You guys aren't taking his feelings into consideration when you're asking him to keep posting. He didn't resign for personal reasons or anything like that..he got fired..undoubtedly, to him at least, it was 100% undeserved and is a huge slap in the face. Logging in here and posting would just make him feel like **** about himself. Is that really what you want?
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@Bel: Sorry things had to go down this way but like I said it had to... I may not know you at all but I think you can take comfort in the fact that at least you and Raia are still together (right?)
Lastly, I'm not sure the exact reason why Bel was fired should be public but I do believe Feyd when he says it's not the love factor. In fact, I'd bet its probably a pile of things that all toppled with all the forum drama that's gone around lately....
I sure as hell hope not. I love this site because it is so active. The last place I was at became a friggin' graveyard before I left. If this becomes another dead Magic message board, I'm going to cry.
Secondly, I know this may be too quick to answer this question, but, is there going to be another admin hired eventually? or is Gobboboy going to be the only one?
I think we're all going to have to wait to figure out what will be going on in regards to staff.
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The man who would have given you a warning for that.
Anyway apparntly Belgareth is closing his MSN and getting a new one to break all ties to us although he said we could catch him. Sad. He has made some other claims too but...meh.
Just wondering, how will this effect the Forum Awards?
I give Hannes a /nod, take that as you will.
As for Bel, good luck in your future endeavors.
Who is the second admin, by the way? I think there should be 2 active admins so things like this don't happen again.
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Personally I never liked Bel or BB18. I am glad they are both gone. Now that they are gone it makes this site 259.86% better. Now only if we could make some others leave...
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Actually I was just being a smart ***. As much as I miss Bel and BB(sorry Mike never knew you BUT more then likely would of gotten along) I'm sticking. Just means I am gonna be on more then Just Here and the Source(Just Floats there)
I really hope this isn't the beggining of the end. I don't want this site to go the way of news.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die."
- H.P. Lovecraft
And I also find it highly unlikely that anyone else would leave simply because others have. As much as people typically like to pretend they are loyal to there friends, they are loyal to themselves much more and I'd find it very surprising if someone gave up there moderator position for a friend. Though, I suppose the exception would be to Belgs girlfriend, since if she actually does love him, and he got her the position, she would resign as well.
But, as much as it pains me to say it, (I'd rather you all come back to 'News) Salvation will live on.
Well, farewell.
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Ummm... I think you were thinking more about sweet bread and butter like love sneaky
*cough*
Hmmm, where have I seen an example of that before? Oh!! Rancored_Elf? Less than a year ago? This exact same thing happened! Just switch "Hannes" with "Raa" and "Belgareth" with "Subterranean_Spirit"? Ring any bells, Alyssa?
As for Belgareth leaving, I am impartial. I always had a bad feeling about him, since he seemed to have a "I can do whatever I want" attitude, which is false, since Hannes is the only person who can do that. I love Hannes. I love you Hannes. Please promote me!
Anyways, Bel was never a jerk to me. He was just a jerk around me. I wish that he would stay as a poster, since leaving a site altogether is never a good thing.
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The situation is obviously fairly different this time around. A couple of Staff members are leaving..not 12. And R_E isn't one of them. This site has gotten used to burning through Admins, it seems like. Hopefully that will stop now, though. It won't be a big problem.
Can someone please inform the masses of what these "things" are, exactly? I think everyone should know the details of this ordeal in order to assess the situation for themselves and not have to accept what has been posted by other members.
I'm lost, but definitely sad to see Belgareth leave.
A hardy, "Good luck!" to you.
PP: Please stay in school. Also you dont know anything about anything it seems. Love is the first thing on that list as well.
Flame Warning, sneaky
I'm not going to pretend like these others that I will miss you Belgareth. If you stop posting you will soon be forgotten and become simply an interesting piece of history for these forums.
You were a great asset to the forums (notice already past tense) and I will be extremely disappointed if you stop posting on the forums.
Be the hero dammit. Just keep posting. You have the respect of the masses and that means a heck of a lot more than a tag under your name that says Moderator.
And no, I don't think this is like the situation at News, either. No one's corrupt, not *everyone* is leaving, and hell, we still have R_E.
Also agreeing with the fact that this thread moves quickly.
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As a member of said masses (note the low post count), I agree. We'll all pull for you, Bel! Just keep posting!
Didn't that happen in Jerry Maguire? Hey Belgareth, SHOW ME THE MONEY!!
I'm quite sad about all of this. BB18 was a friend
He made my kickass banner and was a good clansman.
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