MTG Salvation

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However, I don't have to accept the heavy-handedness with which the moderators pass value judgments on its users, especially newer members.

no, you don't, but, like it or not, it is the way of MTGS. i have a few warnings and infractions, and some of them, i've disagreed with. (i think it's silly, for example, that self-censorship is considered censor evasion, if your effort is not what the auto-censor would provide. but let's not digress...) no matter what disagreements i may have had with some mods here, they certainly have a tough job, and one i wouldn't want.

The seeds of freedom must be watered with the blood of martyrs, and what not?

OK, settle down there, thomas jefferson.

I also find it very funny how people like two on eight demonstrate my point for me- A poster posts an original position, Enough people post until a moderator comes and takes a side,

but, in many of these cases, the mods have been RIGHT...

then people with balls call the mods out

balls? on the internet? this is bad comedy.

i find it incredible that you compare "agreeing with mods" to being "sheeple." SHEEPLE? because there are rules that the mods enforce, and users are glad they do? because sometimes, the mods are just RIGHT? come on, man.

This is sycophantic hive minded sheepelism at its core.

this is crazy talk. i don't think you really understand what "sycophantic, hive-minded sheepleism" actually is.

Just because I support a position contrary to the mods, therefore I hate MTGS and am locked here in some epic struggle and can't leave until I argue and win against every one.

no, i think it's because you are attempting to defend the indefensible AND calling out anyone who disagrees as "sheeple."

And as for DR. Jeebus, that hopefully frees up some time for him to post constructively on his own site instead of the kinds of negativity he posted here.

well, more power to him.

Oh, and he got what he deserved. You know what they say- love the sinner, hate the sin.

i credit you for attempting to defend your friend, but the fact remains that he built up as much or more ill will here than good.

there is such a thing as being too smart for your own good. bet he's contemplating that right now.

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Surprisingly enough, the banhammered can see parts of the forums.

And taking in consideration that you don't even need to log in to see anything in the forum (except for the market and a very few other areas), that's not even really surprising.

I find it kind of funny (in a somewhat sad way) how people are talking in this thread as if a extremely intelligent, well-intentioned and helpful people died in the name of others. "Martyr", seriously? That goes beyond the definition of overreacting.
He was just a poster with a high post counter. And he got banned for a very obvious reason - if you're suspended, you're supposed to not be posting.

Quote from The Ice King

My point with the unfair infractions is that the situation of Jeebus posting while suspended would have never been an issue if the infractions weren't given. Just another view to think of.

If he disagreed with the infractions, he should have fought them. I know for a fact that infractions will sometimes be overturned.

He didn't fight them, because he knew he deserved them. That's that.

This thread is getting comically melodramatic. Martyrs and all that. You guys can't be serious. I liked Jeebus, and obviously dislike (some of) the Staff on here more than most, and even I'm not trying to fight this one. There is no just cause there. Jeebus got what he deserved, period.

Honestly, I always considered Dr Jeebus like an honorary moderator/administrator of this site. He seemed to contribute that much, really.

In fact, if I ran this site, I would unban Jeebus and immediately give him moderator status.

Also, I just talked to Jeebus on his forum via private msg and he told me that he has numerous accounts on this site, and he's just waiting for the uproar to subside before he starts posting on his other, older accounts. So I guess we haven't seen the last of the good doctor! Woohoo!

Quote from MTG-Fan

Honestly, I always considered Dr Jeebus like an honorary moderator/administrator of this site. He seemed to contribute that much, really.

In fact, if I ran this site, I would unban Jeebus and immediately give him moderator status.

I suppose we should all be grateful that Hannes a team of largely intelligent individuals run it instead then, huh?

In fact, if I ran this site, I would unban Jeebus and immediately give him moderator status.
Also, I just talked to Jeebus on his forum via private msg and he told me that he has numerous older accounts on this site, and he's just waiting for the uproar to subside before he starts posting on his other, older accounts. So I guess we haven't seen the last of the good doctor! Woohoo!

And that's the exemplar member you would unban and give mod-power? A person who can't follow rules?

Quote from MTG-Fan

Honestly, I always considered Dr Jeebus like an honorary moderator/administrator of this site. He seemed to contribute that much, really.

In fact, if I ran this site, I would unban Jeebus and immediately give him moderator status.

Also, I just talked to Jeebus on his forum via private msg and he told me that he has numerous accounts on this site, and he's just waiting for the uproar to subside before he starts posting on his other, older accounts. So I guess we haven't seen the last of the good doctor! Woohoo!

So, someone so immature that they are going to revert to long standing gimmick accounts after they used a gimmick account to post rather than waiting out a suspension?

Wow. I have no words for this. No insult is adequate.

Quote from MTG-Fan

Also, I just talked to Jeebus on his forum via private msg and he told me that he has numerous accounts on this site, and he's just waiting for the uproar to subside before he starts posting on his other, older accounts. So I guess we haven't seen the last of the good doctor! Woohoo!

You know they always get caught in the end? And you're not doing anything for Dr. Jeebus' chances.

Of course, there have been formerly banned members who have gotten away with several hundred posts before they were caught.

Now TheInfamousBearAssassin was a true martyr. He stood up for Sakura when she was banned in one of the most dubious cases in MTGS history.

This has run its course and isn't getting anywhere.