We know:
1) Tigh played two tactics. That leaves us with 2 tactics, 1 piloting, 2 engineering.
2) Roslin had to play tactics. Leaves us 1 tactics, 1 piloting, 2 engineering.
3) Chief had to have played engineering card.
4) That leaves Keifru with one tactic, 1 engineering, and one piloting left. Engineering had to have been DD.
i.e.: Tigh, Roslin, and Chief did not harm us with that last check
The accusations start: If we assume you didn't play that piloting card to hurt our last crisis check, I find it really hard to believe that out of 3 piloting cards you didn't draw a single maximum firepower.
I suggest we not XO Apollo any time soon.
Probability is a *****, but I don't really mind. I would rather spend my turns shooting stuff and let someone else deal with presidency/admiralty.
As to our current crisis, god damn, more raiders...
I can help- but I don't want to contribute more than 2 cards, just so I have some stuff for later checks. I don't think we'll have much of a problem passing this one regardless
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We know:
1) Tigh played two tactics. That leaves us with 2 tactics, 1 piloting, 2 engineering.
2) Roslin had to play tactics. Leaves us 1 tactics, 1 piloting, 2 engineering.
3) Chief had to have played engineering card.
4) That leaves Keifru with one tactic, 1 engineering, and one piloting left. Engineering had to have been DD.
i.e.: Tigh, Roslin, and Chief did not harm us with that last check
Yeah, that sounds about right. Let's not jump to conclusions though. It could have been Engineering and Piloting in the DD and Keifru did indeed throw in the last tactics. I do see a flaw with your plan though about using Baltar's OSA right now, there is a chance he is indeed a cylon already and could outright lie to us. Then there is the situation once the sleeper comes into play with Boomer. If we are going to use Baltar's OSA, we should wait until at least one go through before we decide to use it.
It could have been Engineering and Piloting in the DD and Keifru did indeed throw in the last tactics. I do see a flaw with your plan though about using Baltar's OSA right now, there is a chance he is indeed a cylon already and could outright lie to us. Then there is the situation once the sleeper comes into play with Boomer.
*waves* Boomer here
Indeed, Keifru could have played a tactics and the DD was Engineering/Piloting. He also could have not drawn a maximum firepower in three piloting cards. It's definitely not conclusive, but I really don't trust Apollo at the moment and am going to be watching him very closely.
If Baltar comes back and says player <x> is human, it's pretty certain that the player he read as human is human. Only other situation is both of them are frakking skinjobs.
The only thing we know for sure from the last crisis is that everyone that submitted but Apollo is cleared with a human friendly input.
In fact, I wouldn't cry if we decided to throw him into the brig once we get out of immediate danger.
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That may be something to consider. As i said though, let's cool our jets a bit and play it out a bit before we go and brig anyone. If Apollo is indeed not human right now, we have him pinned down fighting ATM. Just like right now you can keep me honest with your general ability if you play it right, and I can keep you honest with YOUR use of the general ability should you be a skinjob and try to screw us.
That may be something to consider. As i said though, let's cool our jets a bit and play it out a bit before we go and brig anyone. If Apollo is indeed not human right now, we have him pinned down fighting ATM. Just like right now you can keep me honest with your general ability if you play it right, and I can keep you honest with YOUR use of the general ability should you be a skinjob and try to screw us.
I would expect no less Madam President.
On a related note, it may be worth it to move the presidency to a person that's better able to make use of the office. I'd recommend Chief so that all the power is not concentrated in one place with Tigh.
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He is a consideration, again though let's wait until my next turn to decide what we should do with the presidency, if we end up doing anything at all. As of now I can still draw quorum cards via the title and play them all without cost to my skill cards.
Edit: Just remember me passing on the presidency costs me 2 skill cards to do, so we have to take that into consideration before we actually pass it.
Double Edit: OK now on to the crisis at hand, Obviously Tigh is out as far as helping us right now, and worse off Tigh is in the Command center right now, so if we fail this check, we will basically not have any help from him after his turn. I say this is a check we kinda need to pass.
I thought this was like a Mafia game when I signed up, so I'm horribly out of my depth here. I'm just coasting until tomorrow night when I finally sit down and read the rules.
On a related note, it may be worth it to move the presidency to a person that's better able to make use of the office. I'd recommend Chief so that all the power is not concentrated in one place with Tigh.
I definately agree no one person should be both President and Admiral...its just asking for horrible things to happen.
I second Chief; his General ability could be pretty snazy for chaining Quorum cards and such.
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Double Edit: OK now on to the crisis at hand, Obviously Tigh is out as far as helping us right now, and worse off Tigh is in the Command center right now, so if we fail this check, we will basically not have any help from him after his turn. I say this is a check we kinda need to pass.
Agreed. Wish I could give more (it's only a little), but you have my 1 card for what it's worth.
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If you're town and I'm mafia, you've already lost. You just don't know it yet.
I thought this was like a Mafia game when I signed up, so I'm horribly out of my depth here. I'm just coasting until tomorrow night when I finally sit down and read the rules.
Good thing you are. Looks like accusations and plans are starting to fly; you'll have your mafia-y goodness very soon.
Some early analysis:
We know:
1) Tigh played two tactics. That leaves us with 2 tactics, 1 piloting, 2 engineering.
2) Roslin had to play tactics. Leaves us 1 tactics, 1 piloting, 2 engineering.
3) Chief had to have played engineering card.
4) That leaves Keifru with one tactic, 1 engineering, and one piloting left. Engineering had to have been DD.
i.e.: Tigh, Roslin, and Chief did not harm us with that last check
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Probability is a *****, but I don't really mind. I would rather spend my turns shooting stuff and let someone else deal with presidency/admiralty.
As to our current crisis, god damn, more raiders...
I can help- but I don't want to contribute more than 2 cards, just so I have some stuff for later checks. I don't think we'll have much of a problem passing this one regardless
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Yeah, that sounds about right. Let's not jump to conclusions though. It could have been Engineering and Piloting in the DD and Keifru did indeed throw in the last tactics. I do see a flaw with your plan though about using Baltar's OSA right now, there is a chance he is indeed a cylon already and could outright lie to us. Then there is the situation once the sleeper comes into play with Boomer. If we are going to use Baltar's OSA, we should wait until at least one go through before we decide to use it.
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*waves* Boomer here
Indeed, Keifru could have played a tactics and the DD was Engineering/Piloting. He also could have not drawn a maximum firepower in three piloting cards. It's definitely not conclusive, but I really don't trust Apollo at the moment and am going to be watching him very closely.
If Baltar comes back and says player <x> is human, it's pretty certain that the player he read as human is human. Only other situation is both of them are frakking skinjobs.
The only thing we know for sure from the last crisis is that everyone that submitted but Apollo is cleared with a human friendly input.
In fact, I wouldn't cry if we decided to throw him into the brig once we get out of immediate danger.
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I would expect no less Madam President.
On a related note, it may be worth it to move the presidency to a person that's better able to make use of the office. I'd recommend Chief so that all the power is not concentrated in one place with Tigh.
Edit: Just remember me passing on the presidency costs me 2 skill cards to do, so we have to take that into consideration before we actually pass it.
Double Edit: OK now on to the crisis at hand, Obviously Tigh is out as far as helping us right now, and worse off Tigh is in the Command center right now, so if we fail this check, we will basically not have any help from him after his turn. I say this is a check we kinda need to pass.
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I definately agree no one person should be both President and Admiral...its just asking for horrible things to happen.
I second Chief; his General ability could be pretty snazy for chaining Quorum cards and such.
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Agreed. Wish I could give more (it's only a little), but you have my 1 card for what it's worth.
Good thing you are. Looks like accusations and plans are starting to fly; you'll have your mafia-y goodness very soon.
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Not even that leadership card you're holding?
@Apollo: Now would also be a good time to try and prove your humanness
"Madam President, this isn't the time for thinking- we need some action!"
You know I should go rewatch BSG...I only saw up to a couple episodes after they get off that one planet (Season 3? 4?)
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why's that? If I were, wouldn't it make sense to hold onto it for as long as possible?
1. This is a critical check
2. You get more value out of it submitted to this check instead of saving it (Leadership is a + on this check)