I don't think we have any reason to believe that there is currently a difference between Shu and Wu. Perhaps later on down the road either the Shoe people or the Woo-hoo-ers will gain a different win condition, and our roads will diverge...but for now, I think we are united in one goal, and there isn't much by way of degrees of separation.
Yeah, my money is on the mafia hiding in the Shu, in conjunction with the Shu being bigger. Hey, if the Shu fits...
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It's interesting that you would think I'm wu when I could almost as easily be wei. Of course I'm not claiming to be either. Its also interesting that you try and get a supposed member of wu lynched when wei are the bad guys. Even if the wu require the destruction of the shu, the shu's win condition is only to eradicate the wei, so why bother dealing with the wu at all?
Well there are a few possiblities.
1. The Wu decided to pretend they are Shu, and Matjoe is w/o a nation and decided to jump into the empty one.
2. The Neutral nationless and scum have jumped with the shu. This is the most likely.
3. Wu is smaller than Shu, this would implicate a possible Wu-Shu war coming after Wei is destroyed?
Im leaning towards 2 and 3, personally.
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Very interesting. I am wu. I was given a shu safe claim. My pm said that although we are allied with the shu now, we don't know when they may turn on us, so it was best to keep my identity secret. The fact that there are claimed wu confuses me to no end. 1 all the wu didnt get safe claims. 2 the mafia didnt get shu safe claimes or 3 they are either wu or mafia but decided to claim wu anyway...
I thought I already said this (I did). I was afraid that claiming nation would give Shu a disadvantage after eliminating the Wei (a bad thing considering that I am Shu). It seems that Wus have been given safe claims tho, so I guess that point is moot.
Chamber i hoped you checked with fayul before posting that. Id hate to see you modkilled.
And Wu with Safeclaims? Am i the only one who sees Wu becoming a 2nd mafia when Wei dies as a serious possibliity?
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Very interesting. I am wu. I was given a shu safe claim. My pm said that although we are allied with the shu now, we don't know when they may turn on us, so it was best to keep my identity secret. The fact that there are claimed wu confuses me to no end. 1 all the wu didnt get safe claims. 2 the mafia didnt get shu safe claimes or 3 they are either wu or mafia but decided to claim wu anyway...
Interesting. This is fairly scarey to myself. Seems as if this nation claim was probably best for Wu, worst for Wei, but not a good idea for Shu either. Whatever the case, there's not turning back now especially with the most avid resister deciding to claim.
Actually, if the majority of the Wu are claiming Shu due to safe-claims (merely speculation), then until we get to name claiming (hopefully far in the future) this isn't going to help us at all. It seems that, given a 'many Wu are using safe claims' hypothesis, roughly half of the players in this game if not more are going to have lied by the time this mass nation claim is finished. Following that, we have to get into an 'is the given safe claim really safe' debate and a surplus of confusion after that.
Anyone care to update that nation claim list from a ways back? That's the least we can do for now...
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Chamber i hoped you checked with fayul before posting that. Id hate to see you modkilled.
And Wu with Safeclaims? Am i the only one who sees Wu becoming a 2nd mafia when Wei dies as a serious possibliity?
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Wu have safe claims? No wonder everyone was claiming Shu. Hey sgdre, ya mind telling us what safe claim Fayul gave you?
A. Its chamber not sgdre who is wu, and
B. Im not sure about this, but shouldnt he Not say? That way if a mafia "false claims" this name, he can reveal that the scum is lying? I mean, theres a chance the "safe" claims arent "safe" after all and that there are characters with those names in the game, but i doubt it personally. What do yall think?
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What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
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Okay, I have a question for people: How likely do we think it is that the people who have claimed Wu are all telling the truth? I seriously doubt that a Shu would false claim, given the circumstances, but a mafia might have decided to sneak in amongst the other Wu, hoping to have less competition for rolenames.
On another note, nameclaims are going to be pleasantly difficult for the mafia at this point, particularly if we can trust the Wu to honestly claim their safe names. I expected there to be about 9-10 people claim Shu, but we have 15! Of course, that's assuming that the Wei haven't also been given safe names, which is possible, too.
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What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Okay, I have a question for people: How likely do we think it is that the people who have claimed Wu are all telling the truth? I seriously doubt that a Shu would false claim, given the circumstances, but a mafia might have decided to sneak in amongst the other Wu, hoping to have less competition for rolenames.
On another note, nameclaims are going to be pleasantly difficult for the mafia at this point, particularly if we can trust the Wu to honestly claim their safe names. I expected there to be about 9-10 people claim Shu, but we have 15! Of course, that's assuming that the Wei haven't also been given safe names, which is possible, too.
By the way, Keeper, I really, really hate your avatar. It gives me chills, and I can't seem to stop staring at it.
How likely? Well im fairly certain Chamber is telling the truth. But i heavily suspect at least 1 of matjoeman/creampuffeater is lieing.
After all, it only makes sense at this point for Wu to either tell us about the safe claim (which imo was stupid), or use it now, cuz if they dont its worthless later.
As such, i doubt most wu would claim "wu", and i suspect at least one of those two is a wei person trying to take advantage fo the lack of wus.
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How likely? Well im fairly certain Chamber is telling the truth. But i heavily suspect at least 1 of matjoeman/creampuffeater is lieing.
After all, it only makes sense at this point for Wu to either tell us about the safe claim (which imo was stupid), or use it now, cuz if they dont its worthless later.
As such, i doubt most wu would claim "wu", and i suspect at least one of those two is a wei person trying to take advantage fo the lack of wus.
Pretty much my thoughts. Which is why I risked outting myself as wu to take down possible wei. If not all wu had safe claims me saying I'm wu isn't too damaging, and if they are mafia claiming wu then good for us.
I thought I already said this (I did). I was afraid that claiming nation would give Shu a disadvantage after eliminating the Wei (a bad thing considering that I am Shu). It seems that Wus have been given safe claims tho, so I guess that point is moot.
O ya, I forgot about the day communication. nvm.
It took me a while to get at what you meant here. That wasn't a direct quote. It was paraphrased heavily. I see no reason why I would get mod killed for it.
Wus having safe claims means that no one knows whether a Shu is Wu or Shu (obv this is all post killing all the Wei). Otherwise, if it had been like 6 Wu and 4 Shu that wouldve made me a sad panda.
Yeah, I'd say that the safe-claim thing means that this nation-claim is fairly useless. Wu will probably just claim Shu, making the whole thing indistinguishable, and the mafia can jump on wherever they want.
I agree with the notion that one of the currently claimed Wu (or more) is mafia.
Yeah, I'd say that the safe-claim thing means that this nation-claim is fairly useless. Wu will probably just claim Shu, making the whole thing indistinguishable, and the mafia can jump on wherever they want.
I agree with the notion that one of the currently claimed Wu (or more) is mafia.
It's useless? Except that we now learned more about the setup, specifically that the Wus are trying to dupe us as well, and that any claim is very possibly a "safe claim" granted by the mod. And your own feeling is that it has also now helped us nail a scum (one of the claimed Wus).
I'd like to see if Fayul does indeed confirm anything about Matjoeman, or if she'll just remain silent on the subject. I also want to know if creampuffeater was given a safe claim as well.
Keeper has claimed Shu, so we're just waiting on SOS and epeeguy/his replacement.
Wus having safe claims means that no one knows whether a Shu is Wu or Shu (obv this is all post killing all the Wei). Otherwise, if it had been like 6 Wu and 4 Shu that wouldve made me a sad panda.
Awesome reference there Sgdre. South park rox!
Anyhow, Fayul, I would love to have a confirmation that MJM 's pm was screwed up. Would you please tell us if this is true? Cuz i dont think we should do anything (beside get SOS to claim) until we get confirmation that MJM didn't lie on purpose that he was Wu.
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One arguement has been that the mafia would have claimed Wu simply because no one was there, Crippled. But yea, its possible some Wei were given Wu sameclaims, or Shu for that matter. In fact, at this point it seems like pretty much anyone could be using a safe claim.
This hasn't been useless, I'll admit, but with the whole safe-claim thing floating around I don't really think that we'll be catching any mafia members in lies.
ok well the MJM thing was very confusing but at least that was straightenrd out. That leaves 1 less Wu meaning like 17 Shu and 2 Wu if my numbers are correct (which they most likly are) I think that most of the mafias jumped on the Shu thing because they must have thought that claiming Wu was very suspicious and thats maybe why so few Wu.
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ok well the MJM thing was very confusing but at least that was straightenrd out. That leaves 1 less Wu meaning like 17 Shu and 2 Wu if my numbers are correct (which they most likly are) I think that most of the mafias jumped on the Shu thing because they must have thought that claiming Wu was very suspicious and thats maybe why so few Wu.
ROFL. WIFOM ANYONE?
One might think that there are so few Wus because THEY USED THEIR SAFE CLAIMS. Course, since you're Wei, clearly you didnt know that when you claimed wu, now did you.
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fade: what do you think he's going to answer to that? That's like asking, "Are you scum?" There's only one answer that won't automatically get him lynched.
I am HIGHLY inclined to think that his was a mafia slip-up. If not, he's going to have to demonstrate a lot more towniness than saying he has a safe claim.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
I think that most of the mafias jumped on the Shu thing because they must have thought that claiming Wu was very suspicious and thats maybe why so few Wu.
I'm not sure I really see the WIFOM here. Is it him saying that the Wu are probably town because there are only a few of them? or I am missing something here?
There are things about it I feel shouldn't be said. But if you ask more specific questions I'd be willing to either answer them or give reasons why I'd rather not.
1) Are you not answering the questions because you feel it is bad for the town, or because it will be bad for the Wu?
2) Was the character a main character, or at least somewhat important? Or were they completely obscure?
1) Both.
2) I'd rather not answer this. If the mafia don't have safe claims it tells them where to start their false claims. When it comes time to mass claim I'll give both names of course.
I'm not sure I really see the WIFOM here. Is it him saying that the Wu are probably town because there are only a few of them? or I am missing something here?
Rhino, hes saying that Wu are TOWN because of the fact that so few claimes, saying that mafia wouldve jumped in the biggest group.
Thus the scumminess of the statement should be quite apparent. Especially since he never commented on the fact that it made no sense for Wu to claim Shu w/o explaining th e safe claim anyhow.
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I was not saying that Wu are confirmed or anything, but just the fact there there are not likely as many scum in the Wu as in the Shu. Yes there are size differnces, but I still think that many of the scum claimed Shu because they thought that they would get away with it and blend in.
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I was not saying that Wu are confirmed or anything, but just the fact there there are not likely as many scum in the Wu as in the Shu.
That should be obvious, given that there are only 2 claimed Wu so far, so the majority of the mafia will be among the Shu. But at this point, it looks like the Wu is made up of a higher percentage of Mafia, so we should naturally look at the Wu first. Trying to direct us towards the Shu because "there are more scum in the Shu" doesn't make much sense at all.
Vote creampuffeater. He's still avoided answering the question, and is using craplogic to push us towards the Shu group, which at this point would be like shooting in the dark.
Even if you were just popping in to see what was going on you should bave been able to see what was happening in regards to the nation claim. it has been brewing fro quite some time. I fail to see why you would need to stall for time before claliming espeically with out stating you have some role related reason as Chamber has.
How much later will it be before you post your thoughts?
Chamber, the only time I have ever seen safe claims given out by the mod to players was when I was given one as a mafia member a few games back. I can think of another posible scenario where a non mafia player would get one but in that scenario making it know that you were given one defeats the entire purpose of getting it. I'd like to hear more from you on this.
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While I agree that SOS should have nationclaimed, I don't think we should really get too excited about this. I obviously think that SOS should nationclaim in his next post, which better be soon, but for now I don't think there is precedent for a SOS bandwagon.
Awaiting cpe's reaction before voting (unless I voted already, in which case I leave it there and await his reaction before encouraging any more votes).
I checked in without looking, saying that I would have to reread before saying ANYTHING ELSE. that means I did not check any page because I figured I wouldn't be able to make sense of it anyway.
Getting on is typing 's' in my browser, wich directs me to this page. I don't automatically check this thread when I get here. I also don't always read when I get here, sometimes I leave it in the background cos I have to do stuff.
Your reaction would indicate that you have read the thread. Yet you still havn't claimed. why?
I'm off for now, I'll try to check in tomorrow (if I agree with claiming (i am at page 8 atm, I am rereading and I only got enough time to get as far today. School owns :()then I will claim my nation.)
Vote SOS for pressure. If we're all claiming, we're all claiming.
As for CPE...he was a little off. But let's not forget that this is imhungry we're dealing with, and the tell wasn't a major one.
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Yeah, my money is on the mafia hiding in the Shu, in conjunction with the Shu being bigger. Hey, if the Shu fits...
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1. The Wu decided to pretend they are Shu, and Matjoe is w/o a nation and decided to jump into the empty one.
2. The Neutral nationless and scum have jumped with the shu. This is the most likely.
3. Wu is smaller than Shu, this would implicate a possible Wu-Shu war coming after Wei is destroyed?
Im leaning towards 2 and 3, personally.
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I thought I already said this (I did). I was afraid that claiming nation would give Shu a disadvantage after eliminating the Wei (a bad thing considering that I am Shu). It seems that Wus have been given safe claims tho, so I guess that point is moot.
O ya, I forgot about the day communication. nvm.
And Wu with Safeclaims? Am i the only one who sees Wu becoming a 2nd mafia when Wei dies as a serious possibliity?
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Interesting. This is fairly scarey to myself. Seems as if this nation claim was probably best for Wu, worst for Wei, but not a good idea for Shu either. Whatever the case, there's not turning back now especially with the most avid resister deciding to claim.
Actually, if the majority of the Wu are claiming Shu due to safe-claims (merely speculation), then until we get to name claiming (hopefully far in the future) this isn't going to help us at all. It seems that, given a 'many Wu are using safe claims' hypothesis, roughly half of the players in this game if not more are going to have lied by the time this mass nation claim is finished. Following that, we have to get into an 'is the given safe claim really safe' debate and a surplus of confusion after that.
Anyone care to update that nation claim list from a ways back? That's the least we can do for now...
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A. Its chamber not sgdre who is wu, and
B. Im not sure about this, but shouldnt he Not say? That way if a mafia "false claims" this name, he can reveal that the scum is lying? I mean, theres a chance the "safe" claims arent "safe" after all and that there are characters with those names in the game, but i doubt it personally. What do yall think?
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I'm Shu as well, so I guess that puts me on the list with a billion other people.
I don't really have time to post any lengthy analysis, as I've got a tournament to run off to, but I'll be back to having time to post tomorrow.
On another note, nameclaims are going to be pleasantly difficult for the mafia at this point, particularly if we can trust the Wu to honestly claim their safe names. I expected there to be about 9-10 people claim Shu, but we have 15! Of course, that's assuming that the Wei haven't also been given safe names, which is possible, too.
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How likely? Well im fairly certain Chamber is telling the truth. But i heavily suspect at least 1 of matjoeman/creampuffeater is lieing.
After all, it only makes sense at this point for Wu to either tell us about the safe claim (which imo was stupid), or use it now, cuz if they dont its worthless later.
As such, i doubt most wu would claim "wu", and i suspect at least one of those two is a wei person trying to take advantage fo the lack of wus.
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Pretty much my thoughts. Which is why I risked outting myself as wu to take down possible wei. If not all wu had safe claims me saying I'm wu isn't too damaging, and if they are mafia claiming wu then good for us.
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It took me a while to get at what you meant here. That wasn't a direct quote. It was paraphrased heavily. I see no reason why I would get mod killed for it.
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Wus having safe claims means that no one knows whether a Shu is Wu or Shu (obv this is all post killing all the Wei). Otherwise, if it had been like 6 Wu and 4 Shu that wouldve made me a sad panda.
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I agree with the notion that one of the currently claimed Wu (or more) is mafia.
It's useless? Except that we now learned more about the setup, specifically that the Wus are trying to dupe us as well, and that any claim is very possibly a "safe claim" granted by the mod. And your own feeling is that it has also now helped us nail a scum (one of the claimed Wus).
I'd like to see if Fayul does indeed confirm anything about Matjoeman, or if she'll just remain silent on the subject. I also want to know if creampuffeater was given a safe claim as well.
Keeper has claimed Shu, so we're just waiting on SOS and epeeguy/his replacement.
Awesome reference there Sgdre. South park rox!
Anyhow, Fayul, I would love to have a confirmation that MJM 's pm was screwed up. Would you please tell us if this is true? Cuz i dont think we should do anything (beside get SOS to claim) until we get confirmation that MJM didn't lie on purpose that he was Wu.
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I'd also like to know about Chamber's safeclaim.
Catch up? Claim now. You don't need to reread the thread to tell us which kingdom you're from.
ROFL. WIFOM ANYONE?
One might think that there are so few Wus because THEY USED THEIR SAFE CLAIMS. Course, since you're Wei, clearly you didnt know that when you claimed wu, now did you.
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I find it disconcerting that people are trying to avoid answering questions.
I am HIGHLY inclined to think that his was a mafia slip-up. If not, he's going to have to demonstrate a lot more towniness than saying he has a safe claim.
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It is also VERY suspicious that SOS didnt claim when he was on.
There are things about it I feel shouldn't be said. But if you ask more specific questions I'd be willing to either answer them or give reasons why I'd rather not.
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1) Are you not answering the questions because you feel it is bad for the town, or because it will be bad for the Wu?
2) Was the character a main character, or at least somewhat important? Or were they completely obscure?
1) Both.
2) I'd rather not answer this. If the mafia don't have safe claims it tells them where to start their false claims. When it comes time to mass claim I'll give both names of course.
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Rhino, hes saying that Wu are TOWN because of the fact that so few claimes, saying that mafia wouldve jumped in the biggest group.
Thus the scumminess of the statement should be quite apparent. Especially since he never commented on the fact that it made no sense for Wu to claim Shu w/o explaining th e safe claim anyhow.
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That should be obvious, given that there are only 2 claimed Wu so far, so the majority of the mafia will be among the Shu. But at this point, it looks like the Wu is made up of a higher percentage of Mafia, so we should naturally look at the Wu first. Trying to direct us towards the Shu because "there are more scum in the Shu" doesn't make much sense at all.
Vote creampuffeater. He's still avoided answering the question, and is using craplogic to push us towards the Shu group, which at this point would be like shooting in the dark.
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Even if you were just popping in to see what was going on you should bave been able to see what was happening in regards to the nation claim. it has been brewing fro quite some time. I fail to see why you would need to stall for time before claliming espeically with out stating you have some role related reason as Chamber has.
How much later will it be before you post your thoughts?
Chamber, the only time I have ever seen safe claims given out by the mod to players was when I was given one as a mafia member a few games back. I can think of another posible scenario where a non mafia player would get one but in that scenario making it know that you were given one defeats the entire purpose of getting it. I'd like to hear more from you on this.
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VOTE: SOS
Sorry about that.
Please merge these two posts.
Thanks.
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Also, is his playing style this game normal for him in other games?
While I agree that SOS should have nationclaimed, I don't think we should really get too excited about this. I obviously think that SOS should nationclaim in his next post, which better be soon, but for now I don't think there is precedent for a SOS bandwagon.
I note that SOS is on while I'm writing this.
As for SOS, the fact that now twice he's gotten on and not claimed frustrates me. FOS: SOS
Your reaction would indicate that you have read the thread. Yet you still havn't claimed. why?
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Vote SOS for pressure. If we're all claiming, we're all claiming.
As for CPE...he was a little off. But let's not forget that this is imhungry we're dealing with, and the tell wasn't a major one.
Simply for pressure, so that he'll stop screwing around, nation claim, and let us make a decision.