What I feel really bad about, for the town in this game, is WoD. I have long harbored a grudge against WoD, because honestly, I think he cheats and reads Wuffles role PMs. He never thinks Wuffles is scum. It doesn't help that Wuffles has only been scum once, and I don't think WoD was in that game(that I recall at least, it's Doomsday that I'm thinking of) Literally not ever, no matter how scummy Wuffles acts, this game being a great example. I mean honestly, in this game Wuffles A)lied about his role PM and B)admitted it. And WoD STILL *insisted* that he was town. It's just ridiculous, there's no logical explanation for thinking that Wuffles was town there.
Now more than ever, I'm convinced that he simply cheats, which is why I will never play in another game that they both are in. This was on my mind all throughout day 2/3, and caused me to effectively be on tilt, and to read all of his posts from a skewed perspective.
we're TWINS.
There is a HUGE FRIGGIN' DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHEATING AND BEING ABLE TO ACCURATELY READ SOMEONE YOU'VE SHARED A WOMB WITH AND BEEN LIVING WITH FOR TWENTY-THREE YEARS.
Christ, be a worse loser why don't you. You completely failed this game, and now you're trying to shrug it off by claiming WoD CHEATS? I understand your penchant to complain impotently after every game you personally lost for the town, but honestly, after this, if you didn't get in on every game you sign up for, I'd be refusing to play with you as well, because seriously, that is just bad sportsmanship at its zenith.
This ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ accusation had better not get around, Cyan.
A)This is not a new thought by me. Like 18 months ago I speculated, in the Council thread, that I thought that 2 people were cheating. Who do you think I was referring to?
B)As far as it 'getting around'..don't be naive. Anyone that is of the same opinion as me(and I know that they're out there), was of that opinion long before this game.
C)I recognize that nothing will ever be provable, and have never tried to take action against either of you because of this. But it's my own option to choose not to be in games that you're in, and it has become clear to me that said option is better for everyone involved. Because I absolutely do you think that WoD cheats, and nothing you can say will ever convince me otherwise.
You know, that thought has crossed my mind, but I'm not convinced.
I know that WoLG and I always had different views on each other based on the fact that we knew each other outside the game, and I can see the two of them behaving toward each other in the way that they do without them reading each others role PMs.
And I know that players can be trust worthy, because I have known WoLG's password since the time we he started playing here, but I never once logged in and read his PMs while we were both active on the site. I love this game, and I wouldn't want to compromise the integrity of it for anything. I think that anyone else who commits months at a time to play in games and who has been playing with the members of this community for years would feel the same way.
Not trying to push the issue, if Cyan doesn't want to play with WoD or Wuff, that's his choice. I just gon't think Wuff or Wod need to feel particularly threatened by the accusation, assuming they are innocent.
A)This is not a new thought by me. Like 18 months ago I speculated, in the Council thread, that I thought that 2 people were cheating. Who do you think I was referring to?
B)As far as it 'getting around'..don't be naive. Anyone that is of the same opinion as me(and I know that they're out there), was of that opinion long before this game.
C)I recognize that nothing will ever be provable, and have never tried to take action against either of you because of this. But it's my own option to choose not to be in games that you're in, and it has become clear to me that said option is better for everyone involved. Because I absolutely do you think that WoD cheats, and nothing you can say will ever convince me otherwise.
A)This is not a new thought by me. Like 18 months ago I speculated, in the Council thread, that I thought that 2 people were cheating. Who do you think I was referring to?
B)As far as it 'getting around'..don't be naive. Anyone that is of the same opinion as me(and I know that they're out there), was of that opinion long before this game.
C)I recognize that nothing will ever be provable, and have never tried to take action against either of you because of this. But it's my own option to choose not to be in games that you're in, and it has become clear to me that said option is better for everyone involved. Because I absolutely do you think that WoD cheats, and nothing you can say will ever convince me otherwise.
I know well enough that once your jaws lock on something nothing can change it, yes.
If you have no evidence to back up your accusation, Cyan, then frankly I'd rather you hadn't spread it around to begin with. You're entitled to your opinion, and you're entitled to avoid games containing players you dislike, but what you just did was level a public accusation of a blacklist-worthy offense that may mar two players' reputations even if it's never substantiated.
It's speculation. It's hearsay. And if you have, and never had, any intention of actually lobbying for action against Wuffles and WoD, then I cannot comprehend why you chose to bring it up other than to antagonize them.
I'm not speaking as a moderator or as a council member, mind you. I simply don't like what you just did.
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What's your problem? If you disagree with my statement/opinion/flame post then say so.
Just....don't make such posts. Forum rules still apply here, you sound like sour grapes about his sour grapes. Just congratulate yourself inside, move on, and take advantage of the annoyed player in the next GAME.
Both your original post and his could be seen as violating the forum rules here, yours for flaming, which is STILL not allowed here, and his for being a sort of useless spam. Not worth getting infractions over this.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
It also contains a hefty dose of competition, and weeks or months of effort and invested time. And like any other social situation (yeah, I'd call forum mafia a social game), personalities may clash, leading to further frustration, etc. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with your game specifically.
(In all reality, DD said it better than i could...mafia is meant to be fun, but its a competitive game, and tempers can flare pretty easily.)
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But once again, admitting it would probably have gotten me hanged.
There is a HUGE FRIGGIN' DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHEATING AND BEING ABLE TO ACCURATELY READ SOMEONE YOU'VE SHARED A WOMB WITH AND BEEN LIVING WITH FOR TWENTY-THREE YEARS.
Christ, be a worse loser why don't you. You completely failed this game, and now you're trying to shrug it off by claiming WoD CHEATS? I understand your penchant to complain impotently after every game you personally lost for the town, but honestly, after this, if you didn't get in on every game you sign up for, I'd be refusing to play with you as well, because seriously, that is just bad sportsmanship at its zenith.
This ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ accusation had better not get around, Cyan.
A)This is not a new thought by me. Like 18 months ago I speculated, in the Council thread, that I thought that 2 people were cheating. Who do you think I was referring to?
B)As far as it 'getting around'..don't be naive. Anyone that is of the same opinion as me(and I know that they're out there), was of that opinion long before this game.
C)I recognize that nothing will ever be provable, and have never tried to take action against either of you because of this. But it's my own option to choose not to be in games that you're in, and it has become clear to me that said option is better for everyone involved. Because I absolutely do you think that WoD cheats, and nothing you can say will ever convince me otherwise.
I know that WoLG and I always had different views on each other based on the fact that we knew each other outside the game, and I can see the two of them behaving toward each other in the way that they do without them reading each others role PMs.
And I know that players can be trust worthy, because I have known WoLG's password since the time we he started playing here, but I never once logged in and read his PMs while we were both active on the site. I love this game, and I wouldn't want to compromise the integrity of it for anything. I think that anyone else who commits months at a time to play in games and who has been playing with the members of this community for years would feel the same way.
Not trying to push the issue, if Cyan doesn't want to play with WoD or Wuff, that's his choice. I just gon't think Wuff or Wod need to feel particularly threatened by the accusation, assuming they are innocent.
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It's speculation. It's hearsay. And if you have, and never had, any intention of actually lobbying for action against Wuffles and WoD, then I cannot comprehend why you chose to bring it up other than to antagonize them.
I'm not speaking as a moderator or as a council member, mind you. I simply don't like what you just did.
Just....don't make such posts. Forum rules still apply here, you sound like sour grapes about his sour grapes. Just congratulate yourself inside, move on, and take advantage of the annoyed player in the next GAME.
Both your original post and his could be seen as violating the forum rules here, yours for flaming, which is STILL not allowed here, and his for being a sort of useless spam. Not worth getting infractions over this.
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It also contains a hefty dose of competition, and weeks or months of effort and invested time. And like any other social situation (yeah, I'd call forum mafia a social game), personalities may clash, leading to further frustration, etc. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with your game specifically.
Fun? WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT FUN?!!
THIS!
IS!
MAFIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA </end dumb joke>
(In all reality, DD said it better than i could...mafia is meant to be fun, but its a competitive game, and tempers can flare pretty easily.)
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