It's hard to debate that Manders is acting markedly different than usual.
She was much more serious in Anita Blake, for example.
This could suggest a few things, but I'm not confident that scumminess is one of them. Something is making her want to act a bit more free and goofy than usual. Why would a mafia alignment, with the expectation of her buddies be that impetus.
Don't know, but something is going on...
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1. MH posted something that Bilbro and Cyan call her out on.
2. After she realizes it was suspicious, she backpedals.
3. A wagon starts building on her, so she acts incoherent to try and make it look like she was just joking the whole time.
The real giveaway is this line:
She says she's bored to substantiate her cover of being goofy and posting nonsense because of it. Then she suggests a soft-claim in hopes the idea will distract everyone from the wagon growing on her.
It's hard to debate that Manders is acting markedly different than usual.
She was much more serious in Anita Blake, for example.
This could suggest a few things, but I'm not confident that scumminess is one of them. Something is making her want to act a bit more free and goofy than usual. Why would a mafia alignment, with the expectation of her buddies be that impetus.
Don't know, but something is going on...
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I think she has a PR that forces her to use an emote in every post.
Please tell me if you think something here is wrong.
I'll tell you what's wrong. I only got 5 votes? That's not even L-2! You guys fail at life.
@Nom_Anor- I don't have a day-Roleblock this time to survive your daykill. Also, don't think a mass claim would be particularly useful in this game.
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I agree with all of this, but would add that this doesn't really read like MH's scum play to me either. Still believe she is the best option for scum though. Vote MandersHex
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I agree with all of this, but would add that this doesn't really read like MH's scum play to me either. Still believe she is the best option for scum though. Vote MandersHex
Don't like how lrd jumps on the wagon. Don't like the reasoning.
What I meant to say was that MH's play didn't feel like her scum play or her town play. However, the overriding feeling was that it wasn't like her town play, hence the vote. And I still do feel this way.
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What I meant to say was that MH's play didn't feel like her scum play or her town play. However, the overriding feeling was that it wasn't like her town play, hence the vote. And I still do feel this way.
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What town member is not a big loss to be mislynched Zebi?
MandersHex is most likely Village Idiot. Her play style, attitude towards being lynched, everything shes doing points towards this.
Also, on soft claims, there are very specific characters in south park that make sense with specific roles. Name claiming seems like the perfect way to give scum a who's who list of power roles.
MandersHex is most likely Village Idiot. Her play style, attitude towards being lynched, everything shes doing points towards this.
Also, on soft claims, there are very specific characters in south park that make sense with specific roles. Name claiming seems like the perfect way to give scum a who's who list of power roles.
Village Idiot? Very confused here. Are you thinking of a Jester? In which case, the answer is no...that role is banned here.
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I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
But in all seriousness, I figured this game would be crazy and abnormal due to the flavor and potentially the mod, so I guess I'm not surprised with anything that's happened so far.
But in all seriousness, I figured this game would be crazy and abnormal due to the flavor and potentially the mod, so I guess I'm not surprised with anything that's happened so far.
Village Idiot? Very confused here. Are you thinking of a Jester? In which case, the answer is no...that role is banned here.
I was unaware of this. Yeah, then her posts don't actually make any sense. She's just being random and drawing suspicion to herself, which isn't an attitude either town or scum would normally take.
I was unaware of this. Yeah, then her posts don't actually make any sense. She's just being random and drawing suspicion to herself, which isn't an attitude either town or scum would normally take.
They're not 100% Banned....theoretically they could pop up in a Specialty or FTQ, but even there the role is ENORMOUSLY discouraged. The role existed in a Xyre game (Greenwood Affair) and was well.....quite negatively received due to the unfairness of it.
I doubt Joboman would violate this idea and throw a Jester in a normal.
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I don't like the MH wagon at all. I highly doubt a scum would ever want to draw this much attention to themselves. She's too keen on the idea of getting lynched, almost as if she sees it as an inevitability. There is a logical role for that attitude and I believe she is just goofing around right now. assuming I'm correct, it should suffice to say that she'll be useful while alive, but is unlikely to make it to the end of the game.
I was pretty sure she was heavily hinting at vanilla.
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I was pretty sure she was heavily hinting at vanilla.
I'm not sure I've seen her play as vanilla; I'll have to go check. -But I'm hoping she knows better than to goof around, lie to us, backpedal, and try to get herself killed just because she is vanilla town.
Don't like how lrd jumps on the wagon. Don't like the reasoning.
Nor did I.
Hmmm. Odd Manders play.
Indeed!
Exactly. Very carefree.
Would someone get this man a cookie?!?
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The Manders wagon is moving fast.
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Nor am I, especially after this:
What I meant to say was that MH's play didn't feel like her scum play or her town play. However, the overriding feeling was that it wasn't like her town play, hence the vote. And I still do feel this way.
Also, on soft claims, there are very specific characters in south park that make sense with specific roles. Name claiming seems like the perfect way to give scum a who's who list of power roles.
But in all seriousness, I figured this game would be crazy and abnormal due to the flavor and potentially the mod, so I guess I'm not surprised with anything that's happened so far.
I was unaware of this. Yeah, then her posts don't actually make any sense. She's just being random and drawing suspicion to herself, which isn't an attitude either town or scum would normally take.
Yeah, you're right, and with that, the silliness will end. RVS is over and I don't want to hurt our town.
It was fun, though!
You said that you getting lynched is not a big loss to the town. How is this so?
If you answer my question to yourself, you'll find your answer. And don't try to tell me that there's not a town role anywhere that isn't a huge loss for the town to be mislynched.
She's not a Jester. I honestly think she is some kind of neutral scum and just has no idea how to handle it.
Really, Cyan? And this is how you think I would react to that? Think about who you're talking about. Would I really intentionally draw attention to myself if I were worried about how to play something?
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I've only been vanilla in Normalville and Indiana Jones and, to save the trouble, no, I didn't act like this. I really was just having fun Seppel-style. But, it's over now.
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I'm not sure where to stan on this whole MH thing. On the one hand, he could just be joking. On, the other, he could be scum that went too far with a joke, and now is backpedalling real hard. But honestly, Bilbro Braggins has done something far more scummy IMHO.
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Yeah, more seppel, that is exactly what we need.
-Still not happy with the vote and explanation: The vote looks serious, and it makes no sense for you to lie and say it was if it wasn't. Not even seppel-sense.
They're not 100% Banned....theoretically they could pop up in a Specialty or FTQ, but even there the role is ENORMOUSLY discouraged. The role existed in a Xyre game (Greenwood Affair) and was well.....quite negatively received due to the unfairness of it.
I doubt Joboman would violate this idea and throw a Jester in a normal.
Loran, this is Joboman we are speaking of. Expect the stupid unexpected.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
I love Joboman, Poggy, Niv, and Vezok, because, while they may not be the best players, they still try to win. Having fun is the most important thing to a game, but I've learned that if you don't try to win, then you're ruining everyone else's fun.
But in all seriousness, I figured this game would be crazy and abnormal due to the flavor and potentially the mod, so I guess I'm not surprised with anything that's happened so far.
But honestly, Bilbro Braggins has done something far more scummy IMHO.
What would that be?
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I'm willing to give MH the benefit of doubt. The way she's played has been so pointless that her explanation really does make the most sense.
Looking at lrd now, his vote on her doesn't seem natural and he may be using his humor as a distraction technique. Is that the way he normally plays?
One thing I would like to quickly point out before i go more indepth with posts is that it wasnt just jobo making this game. Dont forget Niv had his hand in it, probably more than Jobo did.
Also, kinda impressed we've grown about 2 pages since I went to work and came back. Gives me something to do when I dont have anything to make for dinner because I'm too lazy to do grocery shopping.
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I had people yell at me for bein silly and formatting all my posts into a haiku one game. (as mentioned in teh signup thread) that almost got me into hot water.
What I meant to say was that MH's play didn't feel like her scum play or her town play. However, the overriding feeling was that it wasn't like her town play, hence the vote. And I still do feel this way.
And so there is no chance of the third option? Considering the size of this game, I wouldnt be surprised to see a neutral or two (especially considering we already lost one dont forget)
I dont see it moving all that fast. MH has how many votes on her now? And how many did she have at most during the past day? There has definitely been a lot of discussion in a day and change, but it has mostly been between a few people which could make it seem like a fast moving wagon.
Could be Basic #6, when Az claimed scum. Although he was lynched D2.
I think I may have worked out what is happening with MH. I'll keep quiet though.
And in case you wondering, it is not because she is high.
That is probably the one I am thinking about then. I'm fairly certain it was Az that bit the bullet, but thought it was the first day. And feel free to enlighten us as to what you think is running through MH's head.
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More people should be voting MH. Her 'would I act this way as scum' defense is pretty much as terrible as it gets.
I Disagree. She isn't pushing wagon jumping or trying to build weak cases on people. In addition to her initial complete disregard to whether or not she gets lynched, almost all of her subsequent posts after her randomness have been good enough responses for me, although a little condescending.
I do not think she is a threat right now at all, nor do I think voting for her will help the town. She isn't completely off my radar but there just isn't a good case against her. It isn't that there's no case at all, the problem is the case is TOO strong for it to really have any merit.
We should be spending more time analyzing others to determine who is likely to be scum, and less time trying to rush lynch MH and end day one. If we end the day with no real evidence against anyone else, we'll have to start over, only without MH and the NK target. Also, any night abilities could be potentially wasted as we don't have any real idea of what specific roles should do.
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She was much more serious in Anita Blake, for example.
This could suggest a few things, but I'm not confident that scumminess is one of them. Something is making her want to act a bit more free and goofy than usual. Why would a mafia alignment, with the expectation of her buddies be that impetus.
Don't know, but something is going on...
Why do you think that?
Yeah, ok
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Vote Mandershex - Cyan stole the words right out of my mouth.
I think she has a PR that forces her to use an emote in every post.
First off, Cyan, stop stealing words.
Second, how would a PR like that mean I'm scum?
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Attempted humor? Nah. That was funny!
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Then why have there been several random votes after I did that?
Not to this degree.
It seemed more clarification was needed.
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Didn't help, but thanks for the attempt.
Don't just brush it off like it's a technicality. RVS was still going on quite strong.
Something I'm all to familiar with in the game of Mafia.
They're never satisfied until I'm dead town or claimed PR town.
Good, neither do I! Then let's go, buddy!
In all seriousness, guys, is this really enough to lynch me? If so, go for it. Not a big loss for the town.
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Please explain how lynching you is not a big loss, assuming you're town.
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What town member is not a big loss to be mislynched Zebi?
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I'll tell you what's wrong. I only got 5 votes? That's not even L-2! You guys fail at life.
@Nom_Anor- I don't have a day-Roleblock this time to survive your daykill. Also, don't think a mass claim would be particularly useful in this game.
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Don't like how lrd jumps on the wagon. Don't like the reasoning.
Hmmm. Odd Manders play.
Exactly. Very carefree.
The Manders wagon is moving fast.
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MandersHex is most likely Village Idiot. Her play style, attitude towards being lynched, everything shes doing points towards this.
Also, on soft claims, there are very specific characters in south park that make sense with specific roles. Name claiming seems like the perfect way to give scum a who's who list of power roles.
Correct answer: A scum.
Village Idiot? Very confused here. Are you thinking of a Jester? In which case, the answer is no...that role is banned here.
@Cyan: Lay off will you? Wait....oh right, i forgot who you were for a second.
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A scum is not a town member.
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Nom_Anor, i believe this calls for a daykill.
Also, No. :mad::mad::mad:
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I'd be down for some sort of claim. Maybe soft claim of one sort or another today then a massclaim day 2 after we have a day/night cylce of info?
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I was unaware of this. Yeah, then her posts don't actually make any sense. She's just being random and drawing suspicion to herself, which isn't an attitude either town or scum would normally take.
They're not 100% Banned....theoretically they could pop up in a Specialty or FTQ, but even there the role is ENORMOUSLY discouraged. The role existed in a Xyre game (Greenwood Affair) and was well.....quite negatively received due to the unfairness of it.
I doubt Joboman would violate this idea and throw a Jester in a normal.
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You said that you getting lynched is not a big loss to the town. How is this so?
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Are you just pushing buttons here? Vanilla, now stop.
Maybe so.
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I'm not sure I've seen her play as vanilla; I'll have to go check. -But I'm hoping she knows better than to goof around, lie to us, backpedal, and try to get herself killed just because she is vanilla town.
Nor did I.
Indeed!
Would someone get this man a cookie?!?
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a) Town Power Role
b) Neutral anything
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Nor am I, especially after this:
Jumpy much?
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Where did anyone say anything about a name claim?
Psst...
Um, no.
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I don't think we should be planning to massclaim.
Yeah, you're right, and with that, the silliness will end. RVS is over and I don't want to hurt our town.
It was fun, though!
If you answer my question to yourself, you'll find your answer. And don't try to tell me that there's not a town role anywhere that isn't a huge loss for the town to be mislynched.
Really, Cyan? And this is how you think I would react to that? Think about who you're talking about. Would I really intentionally draw attention to myself if I were worried about how to play something?
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I'm not sure where to stan on this whole MH thing. On the one hand, he could just be joking. On, the other, he could be scum that went too far with a joke, and now is backpedalling real hard. But honestly, Bilbro Braggins has done something far more scummy IMHO.
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Yeah, more seppel, that is exactly what we need.
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What would that be?
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I'm willing to give MH the benefit of doubt. The way she's played has been so pointless that her explanation really does make the most sense.
Looking at lrd now, his vote on her doesn't seem natural and he may be using his humor as a distraction technique. Is that the way he normally plays?
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Her play has been pointless random nonsense, her explanation was a calculated ploy to draw reactions. How is this lining up??
I had people yell at me for bein silly and formatting all my posts into a haiku one game. (as mentioned in teh signup thread) that almost got me into hot water.
No
Definitely no. And yes, I did see
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Any loss of a town is a big loss, whether it be a vanilla or a power role. It means one step closer to losing, and one step closer for a scum win.
I would definitely agree that a vanilla would be the most favourable if a town were to die. Still would be a definite loss.
Oh and
Can be listed as correct, since we are in a town in terms of bein at South Park:cool2:.
And so there is no chance of the third option? Considering the size of this game, I wouldnt be surprised to see a neutral or two (especially considering we already lost one dont forget)
I dont see it moving all that fast. MH has how many votes on her now? And how many did she have at most during the past day? There has definitely been a lot of discussion in a day and change, but it has mostly been between a few people which could make it seem like a fast moving wagon.
That is probably the one I am thinking about then. I'm fairly certain it was Az that bit the bullet, but thought it was the first day. And feel free to enlighten us as to what you think is running through MH's head.
I Disagree. She isn't pushing wagon jumping or trying to build weak cases on people. In addition to her initial complete disregard to whether or not she gets lynched, almost all of her subsequent posts after her randomness have been good enough responses for me, although a little condescending.
I do not think she is a threat right now at all, nor do I think voting for her will help the town. She isn't completely off my radar but there just isn't a good case against her. It isn't that there's no case at all, the problem is the case is TOO strong for it to really have any merit.
We should be spending more time analyzing others to determine who is likely to be scum, and less time trying to rush lynch MH and end day one. If we end the day with no real evidence against anyone else, we'll have to start over, only without MH and the NK target. Also, any night abilities could be potentially wasted as we don't have any real idea of what specific roles should do.