Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
"This comment caught my attention. Vampyr said that the bickering between Sepiriel and Ecophagy was 'signifying nothing', but he then proceeds to make an attack on Sepiriel based on it. He accuses Sepiriel of using convenient excuses and acting too seriously, though his attack is absent of a vote."
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Ever heard the the phrase "mountains outta molehills"? This was trying to make mountains outta grains of rice. FOS Magwald
Please explain how voicing an opinion and making an observation is 'mak[ing] an attack'?
Would 'mak[ing] an attack' not be something like placing a vote? Of which I didn't do because 1) it's the first damn conversation of the thread, and 2) I didn't think the conversation amounted to anything.
Whats with the [ ] around ing? You crypto claiming already?
Problem is i am upfront with information even when not prompted, you are free to verify this of course but its pretty much what i always do.
Also your last line is quite a contradiction, aren't you observing me being upfront about information? you can follow this up with questions to verify (of course by telling you this im apparently telling you how to do things so i am obviously not honest and all that jazz)
In short, i tend to explain myself a lot, even when not prompted, you are free to verify this from my prior games.
Well then, the problem will be that games I'm in with you, I'll find you suspicious. I know, you should be trembling in fear now.
Right now I'm not sure what I'm observing from you. It could all be BS that is used to cover your tracks after a failed wagon push attempt on Eco. Or it could be something else. More needs to occur in the game for me to continue forming an opinion on you.
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Whats with the [ ] around ing? You crypto claiming already?
I was quoting Mags. He said 'make an attack'. But I was turning make into making. It's a common practice to add the brackets, [ and ], when changing the form of the verb in a quote to indicate such has happened.
And no, I'd never crypto claim. I despise the practice.
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I was quoting Mags. He said 'make an attack'. But I was turning make into making. It's a common practice to add the brackets, [ and ], when changing the form of the verb in a quote to indicate such has happened.
And no, I'd never crypto claim. I despise the practice.
Eh, i've never seen it before on this site. It just looked odd. Of course you wouldn't be crypto claiming. Don't go all Sepiriel on me and take my joke seriously.
Unvote since we seem to be getting into SRS BZNIS.
Eh, i've never seen it before on this site. It just looked odd. Of course you wouldn't be crypto claiming. Don't go all Sepiriel on me and take my joke seriously.
Unvote since we seem to be getting into SRS BZNIS.
It's common in the world of journalism.
And I wasn't getting overly serious about the cryptoclaiming. But I'm sure the topic has been discussed between others on here since I've been gone. And while I have made my opinions clear on the topic in the past, I wouldn't expect anyone to be motivated to go looking through 2 year old games to find my opinion. Now seemed to be a good time to on record for the new faces in the crowd.
Ok, now that I've gone way to serious on the topic, back to game.
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Eh, i've never seen it before on this site. It just looked odd. Of course you wouldn't be crypto claiming. Don't go all Sepiriel on me and take my joke seriously.
Unvote since we seem to be getting into SRS BZNIS.
If we are in srz bznis mode then I shall rescind by unvoting
Well then, the problem will be that games I'm in with you, I'll find you suspicious. I know, you should be trembling in fear now.
Right now I'm not sure what I'm observing from you. It could all be BS that is used to cover your tracks after a failed wagon push attempt on Eco. Or it could be something else. More needs to occur in the game for me to continue forming an opinion on you.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Wait, Sepiriel was serious? I thought he was just stretching a joke a bit too far. Reminds me of that guy who fastened on me as scum after I made the joke about CropCircles getting daykilled before he had a chance to post. Can't even recall now what game that was in.
Vamp's entirely correct about the use of square brackets to indicate edits (usually for tense, or to change something like "he" to a name to clarify who the quote is about.
Ok ill concede that much however i still hold that the plausibility of such action should weight as much as the likelihood (at the very least in my case i have to consider plausibility over likelihood since it is the first game i ever play with you and it is not M.O. to do deep research on other's play style outside of games i participate on)
Ok, but that does mean you accept that the likelihood is certainly relevant. It's not just a case of looking at my meta, it's more basic than that - how many situations can you think of where me doing this deliberately as scum is a good play? Even if I had some benefit to getting lynched, I would be terribly unlikely to out myself within the first 10 posts just for some crap WIFOM.
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As for considering you scum and basing my assumptions on that, i find it is the easiest way to examine things for me, since i can only truly trust myself when it comes to alignment for now i have to assume the worst of any and all interactions specially given any possible agenda behind said interactions (kinda paranoid of me i admit)
The problem is that this implies that your opinions are not grounded on any evidence - if you assume I am scum and then compile evidence, you will inevitably twist facts to suit your presupposition. At best, it is inaccurate scumhunting and at worst is scum pushing mislynches.
You have to try and maintain only reasonable paranoia.
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Ok well my stance remains though but that is apparently a difference in opinion.
I was talking more about the fact we completely obliterated RVS for the rest rather than the actual amount of time elapsed (I have actually gone on record in my first game stating how little i care for such a stage)
The RVS is there to be ended. It serves no other purpose.
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also its difficult to Chillax since my unicorn got disintegrated and you don't wanna fix it!
Wait, Sepiriel was serious? I thought he was just stretching a joke a bit too far. Reminds me of that guy who fastened on me as scum after I made the joke about CropCircles getting daykilled before he had a chance to post. Can't even recall now what game that was in.
has reminded me. Sep: Can you give us a list of games you've been in please?
Reminds me of that guy who fastened on me as scum after I made the joke about CropCircles getting daykilled before he had a chance to post. Can't even recall now what game that was in.
Wasn't that Inheritance mafia? Rider was all over you for it.
Wasn't that Inheritance mafia? Rider was all over you for it.
That's the one. Rider, yeah. It took pages and pages and a half dozen people to convince him it was just a joke and that jokes are actually not a scum tell.
Funny because since i have no way to talk to you outside of the game i have no idea about this arrangement you mention, however please keep going you just gave us the first scum lynch and thats just awesome.
Yikes. If only you weren't being serious, I would tip my hat to your skillful meta-meta joke.
My head says you and Eco are townies fighting over, very literally, nothing.
And my gut says, "Gurgle, gurgle," but that's probably because I haven't eaten yet today
The RVS is there to be ended. It serves no other purpose.
Untrue now and forever. Fruitful conversation almost always come out of the random vote stage
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Ok, but that does mean you accept that the likelihood is certainly relevant. It's not just a case of looking at my meta, it's more basic than that - how many situations can you think of where me doing this deliberately as scum is a good play? Even if I had some benefit to getting lynched, I would be terribly unlikely to out myself within the first 10 posts just for some crap WIFOM.
Yes i have to conceded that likelihood is relevant but as i explained, for me, plausibility has to take a front seat, specially since i have no prior meta experience on you and your play style.
The problem is that this implies that your opinions are not grounded on any evidence - if you assume I am scum and then compile evidence, you will inevitably twist facts to suit your presupposition. At best, it is inaccurate scumhunting and at worst is scum pushing mislynches.
You have to try and maintain only reasonable paranoia.
I am keeping a reasonable level of paranoia, i dont however see any problems with distrusting anyones actions until proven later on.
The RVS is there to be ended. It serves no other purpose.
We are in agreement.
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has reminded me. Sep: Can you give us a list of games you've been in please?
Sure:
Basic #26 - Town - Loss
Basic #28 - Town - Loss
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Annorax Bastard Mod - Scum - Win (flawless :D)
Thats my track record, although i should point out i replaced into RobRoy's game (powerful wizard) more than that i dont think its safe to talk about but you are free to check the game.
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Also in reference to the plausibility vs likelihood argument, i will concede my views may be slightly skewed on this but this is most likely due to having played with Seppel, Shalako and to a lesser extent Nakamura, players for whom plausibility outshines likelihood.
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Really? I'm slightly more inclined to say Sepiriel comes off as slightly worse in that exchange. Especially with the recent attempts at retreating and pre-emptive excuses.
Mm. In fact...
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Heh. Au contraire, RafaelK. I don't think we actually managed to convince him it wasn't a joke.
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*sigh* my plan of getting till monday (when I get full internet) by just coasting through the RS on my phone seems to have failed.
I don't think Eco's actions are indicative of any alignment. As I said, I think Sep is town, but wrong.
I also want to hear further justification from RobRoy for his vote.
@arcadic - its Lrd, not I. As silly as that looks. Also please tell me your views on the whole Eco/sep thingy.
LRD then,
Looks like typical Sepiriel Town to me. He'll give himself up as scum if he is scum however. I've honestly never read or been in a game with Eco, but i knew it was a joke. As for this.
Why are you FoS someone for genuine reasons while maintaining a random vote? That looks like an incorrect order of priorities.
I did just simply forget to unvote. I did it 2ish posts later. Something to consider thats for sure.
Robroy's vote is odd. @RobRoy What ABOUT Eco's reactions is worthy of a vote?
You people and your hatred of the RVS. Look what you did, you went and KILLED IT! This is so sad, the RVS is one of the best parts of mafia, it allows you to lynch all lorans without him yelling at you for using it as a reason.
As for the joke that turned into more, I think that it was huge overreactions but not outright scummy behavior. Even though I do this Seph looked worse coming out of it, both are likely townies, so it probably doesnt matter.
The letters SRS BZNIS and well the whole expression need to be killed. Its clearly too annoying to look at this.
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Yes i have to conceded that likelihood is relevant but as i explained, for me, plausibility has to take a front seat, specially since i have no prior meta experience on you and your play style.
You said they were at least as relevant as each other, actually. But, such semantics isn't really worth bashing heads over.
As I said already, it's more fundamental than just my playstyle - it's basic common sense. In addition, feel free to check out my extendo for my games, which will display that I have made similar jokes before, and am not stupid crazy.
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Sure:
Basic #26 - Town - Loss
Basic #28 - Town - Loss
Powerful Wizards - Ongoing
Annorax Bastard Mod - Scum - Win (flawless :D)
Looks like typical Sepiriel Town to me. He'll give himself up as scum if he is scum however.
Why do you say this when his only scum game, he survived and won?
EBWOP: I see that LRD asked this question too.
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I did just simply forget to unvote. I did it 2ish posts later. Something to consider thats for sure.
Except that you made that random vote in the very same post that you FoS'd in. You must have known you had a vote up, because you FoS'd. You clearly didn't forget to unvote, because you only just voted. Try again?
Looked at Sep's games: basic 26 he overreacted similarly, #28 he does less so, but still goes head first into weak attacks. In his mafia game (Annoax's) he takes part in the RVs with gusto and silliness.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
"I like the pressure on Arcadic as his comment about Sepiriel is not in line with Sepiriel's game as scum, especially considering Sepiriel survived to the end. For now I am content to leave my vote on Vampyr, as posts like the one below reek. Even the emoticon feels forced."
"I like the pressure on Arcadic as his comment about Sepiriel is not in line with Sepiriel's game as scum, especially considering Sepiriel survived to the end. For now I am content to leave my vote on Vampyr, as posts like the one below reek. Even the emoticon feels forced."
How does that post 'reek'? What part or parts are you referring to? And how can an emoticon 'feel forced'?
I have another question, for Magwald only: Are you an arimnaes gimmick? I'm pretty sure that your avatar is one he used a while back.
@anyone: is gimmick use becoming a prevalent thing around here?
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I support the Arcadic pressure but geez people, way to tip him off that this is a question to answer carefully. I was hoping that he'd answer a bit more with just lrd and Eco on his case.
Vamp: yes, gimmicks have become ever more popular. I've given up gimmick hunting, it never works well for me.
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I dont see why we care about gimmicks right now either. We should be looking at behaviour instead of trying to figure out who is who.
Seeing how we are still waiting on Arc to come back with the answer to a question from about 3 different people, I think that is the best place to start
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I'm amused that [Shalako], of all people, are talking about terrible reasoning. "Hey, PF's RVS daykill must be serious, therefore I should shoot him to prove that I have a daykill!"
There are a few holes in Arc's comments for sure, as have been pointed out. I support pressure here.
Vote: Arcadic
After a quick skim, I very clearly dislike this particular post by dropkickdude. For now I don't have much as I've been in and out of a drunken stupor the last few days.
Basically: re: barning attempt by ddk is terrible, imo.
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After a quick skim, I very clearly dislike this particular post by dropkickdude. For now I don't have much as I've been in and out of a drunken stupor the last few days.
Basically: re: barning attempt by ddk is terrible, imo.
Ok, the majority, if not totality, of everyone that has posted here recently has said they want to hear from Arcadic and yet you pick DKD and single him out for barning?
Given how many people have stated they want to hear from Arc, what made DKD's post different that made you point him out?
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I'd like to see Sepiriel, CPE and Infinis add some sort of opinion to what's being said? Feelings on Arc? Thoughts on Mags' opinion of me? Any other feelings on players not named Eco?
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I'd like to see Sepiriel, CPE and Infinis add some sort of opinion to what's being said? Feelings on Arc? Thoughts on Mags' opinion of me? Any other feelings on players not named Eco?
I think he is butthurt my mafia did a flawless game and that i managed to survive even though i had a botched claim.
Thoughts on people not named Eco.... desCoures posts and actions puzzle me somewhat.
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This will be my 4th game with Sep. In both town games he has always come off stong and attacking day 1. Both Basics are good example. Now, as for scum Sep. The ONLY reason Sep didn't get lynched day 3 was due to a flailing banned townie distracting the town. The town fell apart day 4, partially due to blindly trusting a Bastard mod game. Sep's mafia was flawless, but it was also a 2 mafia setup in a bastard game.
So, i know Sepiriel. Sure, i was wrong about him in #26 and believed his claim in Annie's game, but i now know how to read him. This game looks exactly like the start of Basic 28, which is why he looks town.
I need to do some digging on the players pushing on me. It'll have to wait till i get home from the RAMS GAME!!!(GO RAMS) since the computer i'm using right now keeps acting up. I'll be back to normal activity Monday for sure.
Ok, the majority, if not totality, of everyone that has posted here recently has said they want to hear from Arcadic and yet you pick DKD and single him out for barning?
Given how many people have stated they want to hear from Arc, what made DKD's post different that made you point him out?
I most definitely want to hear from arc but dkd's post lacks any sort of...sincerity. It's a blatant barn, but not enough to really make him look insanely scummy at this stage in the game. I'd like to see how his voting patterns occur throughout this game.
This will be my 4th game with Sep. In both town games he has always come off stong and attacking day 1. Both Basics are good example. Now, as for scum Sep. The ONLY reason Sep didn't get lynched day 3 was due to a flailing banned townie distracting the town. The town fell apart day 4, partially due to blindly trusting a Bastard mod game. Sep's mafia was flawless, but it was also a 2 mafia setup in a bastard game.
So, i know Sepiriel. Sure, i was wrong about him in #26 and believed his claim in Annie's game, but i now know how to read him. This game looks exactly like the start of Basic 28, which is why he looks town.
I need to do some digging on the players pushing on me. It'll have to wait till i get home from the RAMS GAME!!!(GO RAMS) since the computer i'm using right now keeps acting up. I'll be back to normal activity Monday for sure.
2 things.
First, how does the situation in Annorax's game of Sepiriel dodging a lynch one day due to a flailing townie and then managing to not be lynched the rest of the game equate to "He'll give himself up as scum if he is scum, however." In the example you're presenting, he never did reveal himself as scum, when he was scum, until the endgame. I don't see a correlation there.
Second, and this is a two parter, but, 2a, why do you need to "go digging" on those who are pushing you? And 2b, regardless of what the reason is, why would you mention it?
I most definitely want to hear from arc but dkd's post lacks any sort of...sincerity. It's a blatant barn, but not enough to really make him look insanely scummy at this stage in the game. I'd like to see how his voting patterns occur throughout this game.
So, why is dkd's post worse than WoD's post of "/barn everyone re:Arc, specially the gimmick"? And please, no one but Wolf answer this.
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I decree the RVS hereby reinstated.
Anyway vote Dropkickdude for getting it right!!!!
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*looks at the dead RVS*
Fastest RVS kill ever. He was just asking what the bathroom protocols were. (and that's not lemonade desCoures)
Ever heard the the phrase "mountains outta molehills"? This was trying to make mountains outta grains of rice. FOS Magwald
Whats with the [ ] around ing? You crypto claiming already?
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Well then, the problem will be that games I'm in with you, I'll find you suspicious. I know, you should be trembling in fear now.
Right now I'm not sure what I'm observing from you. It could all be BS that is used to cover your tracks after a failed wagon push attempt on Eco. Or it could be something else. More needs to occur in the game for me to continue forming an opinion on you.
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I was quoting Mags. He said 'make an attack'. But I was turning make into making. It's a common practice to add the brackets, [ and ], when changing the form of the verb in a quote to indicate such has happened.
And no, I'd never crypto claim. I despise the practice.
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Eh, i've never seen it before on this site. It just looked odd. Of course you wouldn't be crypto claiming. Don't go all Sepiriel on me and take my joke seriously.
Unvote since we seem to be getting into SRS BZNIS.
My wife was on MTV with this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUutIZg2EpU
It's common in the world of journalism.
And I wasn't getting overly serious about the cryptoclaiming. But I'm sure the topic has been discussed between others on here since I've been gone. And while I have made my opinions clear on the topic in the past, I wouldn't expect anyone to be motivated to go looking through 2 year old games to find my opinion. Now seemed to be a good time to on record for the new faces in the crowd.
Ok, now that I've gone way to serious on the topic, back to game.
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If we are in srz bznis mode then I shall rescind by unvoting
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You are trembling with fear. I sense it.
Vamp's entirely correct about the use of square brackets to indicate edits (usually for tense, or to change something like "he" to a name to clarify who the quote is about.
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You should get those senses fixed, they seem a bit borked. There's no yellow puddle forming at my feet...yet.
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Ok, but that does mean you accept that the likelihood is certainly relevant. It's not just a case of looking at my meta, it's more basic than that - how many situations can you think of where me doing this deliberately as scum is a good play? Even if I had some benefit to getting lynched, I would be terribly unlikely to out myself within the first 10 posts just for some crap WIFOM.
The problem is that this implies that your opinions are not grounded on any evidence - if you assume I am scum and then compile evidence, you will inevitably twist facts to suit your presupposition. At best, it is inaccurate scumhunting and at worst is scum pushing mislynches.
You have to try and maintain only reasonable paranoia.
The RVS is there to be ended. It serves no other purpose.
What is this I don't even?
Which bits exactly and why?
Why are you FoS someone for genuine reasons while maintaining a random vote? That looks like an incorrect order of priorities.
has reminded me. Sep: Can you give us a list of games you've been in please?
Wasn't that Inheritance mafia? Rider was all over you for it.
You ruined everything!
That's the one. Rider, yeah. It took pages and pages and a half dozen people to convince him it was just a joke and that jokes are actually not a scum tell.
Hello indeed, my not-so-woolen friend
Yikes. If only you weren't being serious, I would tip my hat to your skillful meta-meta joke.
My head says you and Eco are townies fighting over, very literally, nothing.
And my gut says, "Gurgle, gurgle," but that's probably because I haven't eaten yet today
Seconded. Vote: atlseal. Because I know it is spelled atlseal, but every time I see it I imagine a seal fiercely passionate about alternative rock.
Untrue now and forever. Fruitful conversation almost always come out of the random vote stage
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I am keeping a reasonable level of paranoia, i dont however see any problems with distrusting anyones actions until proven later on.
We are in agreement.
Despicable Me reference (my youngest kid recently went nuts over that movie and made me repeat it every waking moment)
Sure:
Basic #26 - Town - Loss
Basic #28 - Town - Loss
Powerful Wizards - Ongoing
Annorax Bastard Mod - Scum - Win (flawless :D)
Thats my track record, although i should point out i replaced into RobRoy's game (powerful wizard) more than that i dont think its safe to talk about but you are free to check the game.
Also in reference to the plausibility vs likelihood argument, i will concede my views may be slightly skewed on this but this is most likely due to having played with Seppel, Shalako and to a lesser extent Nakamura, players for whom plausibility outshines likelihood.
@RobRoy
Really? I'm slightly more inclined to say Sepiriel comes off as slightly worse in that exchange. Especially with the recent attempts at retreating and pre-emptive excuses.
Mm. In fact...
Unvote: RafaelK
Vote: Sepiriel
@RafaelK
Heh. Au contraire, RafaelK. I don't think we actually managed to convince him it wasn't a joke.
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LRD then,
Looks like typical Sepiriel Town to me. He'll give himself up as scum if he is scum however. I've honestly never read or been in a game with Eco, but i knew it was a joke. As for this.
I did just simply forget to unvote. I did it 2ish posts later. Something to consider thats for sure.
Robroy's vote is odd. @RobRoy What ABOUT Eco's reactions is worthy of a vote?
My wife was on MTV with this video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUutIZg2EpU
As for the joke that turned into more, I think that it was huge overreactions but not outright scummy behavior. Even though I do this Seph looked worse coming out of it, both are likely townies, so it probably doesnt matter.
The letters SRS BZNIS and well the whole expression need to be killed. Its clearly too annoying to look at this.
You said they were at least as relevant as each other, actually. But, such semantics isn't really worth bashing heads over.
As I said already, it's more fundamental than just my playstyle - it's basic common sense. In addition, feel free to check out my extendo for my games, which will display that I have made similar jokes before, and am not stupid crazy.
Ta. I'll give them a skim.
Why do you say this when his only scum game, he survived and won?
EBWOP: I see that LRD asked this question too.
Except that you made that random vote in the very same post that you FoS'd in. You must have known you had a vote up, because you FoS'd. You clearly didn't forget to unvote, because you only just voted. Try again?
What do you mean by the second sentence?
I am content to assume he is town mode. unvote.
I'll third this question. -That was an interesting post by arc.
Vote: Arcadic
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How does that post 'reek'? What part or parts are you referring to? And how can an emoticon 'feel forced'?
I have another question, for Magwald only: Are you an arimnaes gimmick? I'm pretty sure that your avatar is one he used a while back.
@anyone: is gimmick use becoming a prevalent thing around here?
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Vote: Arcadic
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Vamp: yes, gimmicks have become ever more popular. I've given up gimmick hunting, it never works well for me.
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And Happy New Year from the east coast.
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I'll also /barn everyone re: arcadic. I especially like the gimmick's post.
One should note that the gimmick is repeating what someone else said on he previous page. It is not an original point.
Ahhh, good to see some things haven't changed while I've been away.
If anyone needs to add something, anything really, it'd be atlseal and Nom. Both are in the game and have yet to post.
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Sepiriel (2) - Arcadic, desCoures
desCoures (2) - Wrath of DoG, Infinis
Ecophagy (2) - Sepiriel, RobRoy
Arcadic (2) - Axelrod, dropkickdude
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I dont see why we care about gimmicks right now either. We should be looking at behaviour instead of trying to figure out who is who.
Seeing how we are still waiting on Arc to come back with the answer to a question from about 3 different people, I think that is the best place to start
12-11? I'm losing track
After a quick skim, I very clearly dislike this particular post by dropkickdude. For now I don't have much as I've been in and out of a drunken stupor the last few days.
Basically: re: barning attempt by ddk is terrible, imo.
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Unvote: Sepiriel
Vote: Arcadic
Also, slightly late New Year's greetings to all. ^_-
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Ok, the majority, if not totality, of everyone that has posted here recently has said they want to hear from Arcadic and yet you pick DKD and single him out for barning?
Given how many people have stated they want to hear from Arc, what made DKD's post different that made you point him out?
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I think he is butthurt my mafia did a flawless game and that i managed to survive even though i had a botched claim.
Thoughts on people not named Eco.... desCoures posts and actions puzzle me somewhat.
So, i know Sepiriel. Sure, i was wrong about him in #26 and believed his claim in Annie's game, but i now know how to read him. This game looks exactly like the start of Basic 28, which is why he looks town.
I need to do some digging on the players pushing on me. It'll have to wait till i get home from the RAMS GAME!!!(GO RAMS) since the computer i'm using right now keeps acting up. I'll be back to normal activity Monday for sure.
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I most definitely want to hear from arc but dkd's post lacks any sort of...sincerity. It's a blatant barn, but not enough to really make him look insanely scummy at this stage in the game. I'd like to see how his voting patterns occur throughout this game.
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2 things.
First, how does the situation in Annorax's game of Sepiriel dodging a lynch one day due to a flailing townie and then managing to not be lynched the rest of the game equate to "He'll give himself up as scum if he is scum, however." In the example you're presenting, he never did reveal himself as scum, when he was scum, until the endgame. I don't see a correlation there.
Second, and this is a two parter, but, 2a, why do you need to "go digging" on those who are pushing you? And 2b, regardless of what the reason is, why would you mention it?
So, why is dkd's post worse than WoD's post of "/barn everyone re:Arc, specially the gimmick"? And please, no one but Wolf answer this.
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