but i dont want DKD to respond vezok, the very existance of vanilla on this game is of utmost importance for fakeclaiming. i dont want scum to know this info.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
but i dont want DKD to respond vezok, the very existance of vanilla on this game is of utmost importance for fakeclaiming. i dont want scum to know this info.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Why would anyone supposedly fake-claiming vanilla claim to be able to Survey still?
are you scum? if not, please stop asking questions that favor scum.
im not helping them.
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
are you scum? if not, please stop asking questions that favor scum.
im not helping them.
How does my question help the scum? I'm asking you why you wouldn't just assume I couldn't Survey since I said I was Vanilla. You know, as in plain, as in powerless.
At this point enough people have claimed that if we do not mass-claim we will be shooting ourselves in the foot. If you have yet to claim and you are next on the list, your next post must contain a claim.
Claims
Cyan: Loggi Stormpike, Town Mage, Bronzebeard. (Watcher/RP Booster.)
Ambassador Laquatus: Fanny Thundermar, Town Rogue, Wildhammer. (Tracker.)
Kraj: High Priest Rohan, Town Priest, Bronzebeard. (Tracker/Watcher/Cop.)
Emo_Pinata: Glorin Steelbrow, Town Priest, Bronzebeard. (Tracker/Watcher/Cop.)
dropkickdude: Kurdran Wildhammer, Vanilla Town, Wildhammer. (No abilities.)
Lost_Profit: Dheldormu, Bronze Dragon, Neutral Seeker. (Self-Healer/1-Shot Bulletproof/Super-Tracker, Leaves game after collecting 12 Relics.)
-Pick a player and night, and find out everything they did that night.
1. Are you told who that player targeted, and if so, what abilities he used?
2. Are you told who targeted that player, and if so, what abilities were used on him?
3. Are you told how many Relics that player Surveyed, and if so, whether that player was successful, and if so, what those Relics were?
The list is the list from the first page. I believe its simply the order players signed up in.
I'm coming around to Cyan's point of view that DRey might literally just have no idea what's going on, but I'm still keeping my vote on him until I actually get town vibes from him.
Your missing the point. If they have influence on how the corruption spreads, then they already know whom is receiving higher levels of corruption. They may not know exact numbers, but they likely know who each night will move close towards 100, and not claiming a high corruption would result in more dead bodies than expected over a night period.
The only merit to not claiming it is if the mafia do not know how much corruption they can cause per night. Claiming it can give us an idea of how much they CAN do each night and give us an idea of whom the scum are targeting. I see no merit in hiding something from the town in which the scum can manipulate.
This makes a bit more sense, but why do you assume that mafia are the only ones that can manipulate people's corruption? I assume we probably have some town roles that would benefit from knowing where people's corruption is, but on the other hand I'd also say that it's likely that corruption is affected by our environment, otherwise it's basically just a second NK mechanic.
1. Are you told who that player targeted, and if so, what abilities he used?
2. Are you told who targeted that player, and if so, what abilities were used on him?
3. Are you told how many Relics that player Surveyed, and if so, whether that player was successful, and if so, what those Relics were?
how come you forbid claim talking and one second later want to discuss a claim?
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The game is not being dumbed down. Control is doing fine; Draw-Go is not the only kind of control. Aggro is doing fine; Red Deck Wins is not the only kind of aggro. Creature combat is an important core concept and belongs in every color. Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
At this point enough people have claimed that if we do not mass-claim we will be shooting ourselves in the foot. If you have yet to claim and you are next on the list, your next post must contain a claim.
Honestly, even if you're not next on the list, feel free to claim. Otherwise we'll be waiting a while. Again, the list is pretty much arbitrary.
1. Are you told who that player targeted, and if so, what abilities he used?
2. Are you told who targeted that player, and if so, what abilities were used on him?
3. Are you told how many Relics that player Surveyed, and if so, whether that player was successful, and if so, what those Relics were?
zindabad was so nice as to answer before I would even have to ask. <3
I see abilities used, only. Not who they targeted, not who targeted them, and not their results. Given that it is an ability, I should see a player surveying, but not how much or whether they were successful.
@AI: I didn't claim my role, just my name and title since it was so similar to Kraj. I have a completely different role with the same role name as Kraj.
Honestly, even if you're not next on the list, feel free to claim. Otherwise we'll be waiting a while. Again, the list is pretty much arbitrary.
I agree with this. When a mass-claim is done this early, I actually prefer this. That way, when someone that was posting regularly suddenly stops posting, you know something is up.
When you read the thread, just claim. Being completely arbitrary about it can't be any different than following the 'order that people signed up' list.
@AI: I didn't claim my role, just my name and title since it was so similar to Kraj. I have a completely different role with the same role name as Kraj.
I see abilities used, only. Not who they targeted, not who targeted them, and not their results. Given that it is an ability, I should see a player surveying, but not how much or whether they were successful.
So your result would look something like this?
"[Player X] used [Ability Y] on [Night Z] (and/or) [Player X] Surveyed on [Night Z] (or) [Player X] did nothing on [Night Z]."
...basically making you a rolecop. Can you rolecop the same Night you heal yourself of Corruption?
"[Player X] used [Ability Y] on [Night Z] (and/or) [Player X] Surveyed on [Night Z] (or) [Player X] did nothing on [Night Z]."
Correct.
...basically making you a rolecop.
Put that way, yes. I should make explicit, as I realize this wasn't clear in the initial claim, that it is a one shot ability.
Can you rolecop the same Night you heal yourself of Corruption?
The corruption heal can be activated at any time. So I don't know if that's a yes, but even if not, I can clear my corruption at the end or beginning of a day even if not.
It lets me invite up to three other players into a prayer group. During that time those players cannot perform any other actions, but if at least two of them agree to join they lose 15 corruption. My corruption is reduced by 15 as well, and I am automatically resistant to corruption.
There is no RP involved, I cannot survey, and I can perform this action every night.
I'm really annoyed the way this whole claim turned out, it kinda hypocritical those people who jumped the gun with the argument that the town has to co-operate when they did exactly the opposite by ignoring the vote.
Votes exist to get the majority opinion of the town.
/rant
Now a claim
I am Battered Red Drake and am Vanilla Town, I am a member of the honor guard for her majesty.
I have a passive ability: When in a certain zone (Not naming it because that would null and void my ability), my corruption is reduced instead of increased.
Note: this means that Vanilla town have an ability that makes them want to move. Which leads me to question this claim by DKD
I think that a massclaim is a great idea, and I have no problem claiming at this time. I am Kurdran Wildhammer, Vanilla Town. Obviously I am of the Wildhammer clan.
I didn't think there would be straight vanilla's in this game. They would have no reason to move or risk venturing into the dungeon.
vote: DKD
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Smile your day could be worse, so I did smile and it was worse.
I'm really annoyed the way this whole claim turned out, it kinda hypocritical those people who jumped the gun with the argument that the town has to co-operate when they did exactly the opposite by ignoring the vote.
Votes exist to get the majority opinion of the town.
Slightly hypocritical, but not against the vote at all. It was over a 2/3s majority. And I read pretty much every player who claimed before me as town anyways.
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OK what have I missed? Come weekend I will be caught up and contributing. I got a scum vibe from Zajnet early on. I'm never in favor of a claim early in the game. Why was it brought up to move zones?
I'm Jarl Mogodune, Town Researcher (Bronzebeard). I can survey, and I can use RP to adjust my corruption in multiples of 5. I also have a passive ability that lets me know what my corruption is at at any time, rather than only at the 25/50/75 marks.
☺☺☺☺ it. If we lose because of this massclaim, I told you so. I really didn't want to claim because chances are I'm going to get NKd before I can use my ability, but if I don't claim, you idiots will lynch me.
I am Furen Longbeard, Town Blacksmith, Bronzebeard.
I can survey like normal.
I have the ability Armorsmithing. Once a night, but only if we're in the Khardros's Anvil Zone, I can craft a suit of armor for a player. Zind specifically says that that suit of armor can't change hands via looting, etc, which is interesting. The armor does nothing unless I imbue it with RP. I can choose any number of the following, as long as I have RP for it:
3 RP: I put a regeneration shield on him. The next time he would die, he doesn't.
4 RP: This makes the wearer's surveys resolve as if they were one number lower, but you still get all that you surveyed for provided they aren't out yet.
9 RP: The armor reflects all abilities that aren't kills.
15 RP: Full immunity to kills forever.
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I am Acridostrasz, Town Vote Absorber (Red Dragon)
My abilities are
Alexstrasza's Tenacity (passive): As long as you have this ability, votes on you don't count. (They won't show up in votecounts.) Whenever another player votes for you, you gain 1 null vote point.
Alexstrasza's Judgment (active, day): Target another player and calculate that player's lynch threshold. If that player's lynch threshold is equal to or less than the number of null vote points you currently have, all of your null vote points are consumed, you lose this ability and Alexstrasza's Tenacity, and the targeted player is instantly lynched, ending the day. (If the player is at L-5 and you have 5 or more null vote points, this ability will be successful. Otherwise, it will do nothing and you can't use it again until the next day phase.)
Her Lingering Essence (passive): While in the Lifebinder's Cell Zone, your Corruption is healed instead of increased.
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Slightly hypocritical, but not against the vote at all. It was over a 2/3s majority. And I read pretty much every player who claimed before me as town anyways.
Yes it looked like it was going to head into a mass claim, but to force the hand of town was not on.
Some of those voted yes because the damage had already been done by people claiming anyway, the vote may have turned out different if people hadnt jumped the gun.
It was anti the spirit of co-operation and it shattered my confidence in town being able to co-operate.
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Smile your day could be worse, so I did smile and it was worse.
I'm catching up and reading the latests posts. There was a vote? Was it a mojority? Did everyone vote except me? If not I wonder if there would have been a majority.
Yes it looked like it was going to head into a mass claim, but to force the hand of town was not on.
Some of those voted yes because the damage had already been done by people claiming anyway, the vote may have turned out different if people hadnt jumped the gun.
It was anti the spirit of co-operation and it shattered my confidence in town being able to co-operate.
Sometimes, you just have to make things happen.
Unrelatedly, posting alot complaining about the mass claim won't actually get you out of claiming.
@AE: There wasn't a formal vote, but the mass claim is still happening.
I am Acridostrasz, Town Vote Absorber (Red Dragon)
My abilities are
Alexstrasza's Tenacity (passive): As long as you have this ability, votes on you don't count. (They won't show up in votecounts.) Whenever another player votes for you, you gain 1 null vote point.
Alexstrasza's Judgment (active, day): Target another player and calculate that player's lynch threshold. If that player's lynch threshold is equal to or less than the number of null vote points you currently have, all of your null vote points are consumed, you lose this ability and Alexstrasza's Tenacity, and the targeted player is instantly lynched, ending the day. (If the player is at L-5 and you have 5 or more null vote points, this ability will be successful. Otherwise, it will do nothing and you can't use it again until the next day phase.)
Her Lingering Essence (passive): While in the Lifebinder's Cell Zone, your Corruption is healed instead of increased.
Well quite an ability, why would you put the zone you heal in on here, now you wont have that opportunity to heal corruption because you wont be targetted in the lifebinder zone
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Smile your day could be worse, so I did smile and it was worse.
@AE: Maybe you should read the thread, instead of listening to the guy that pretty much claimed SK.
I am. Just read your post #92.
I think that this game may be one of those times when a mass-claim is the correct course of action for the town. Not because it will break the game open or anything like that, but because Zindabad seems to want to make a point out of the town getting ahead through cooperation.
Knowing how Zindabad is always in favor of claims leads reason to think it'd be smart for the town to claim in this game. Kraj had good points in favor of a claim too.
A mass claim at this point didn't really help us, come night, the Mafia will dump all the corruption into person x and NK person z. We're probably going to lose.
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A mass claim at this point didn't really help us, come night, the Mafia will dump all the corruption into person x and NK person z. We're probably going to lose.
It's not clearly pro town, however, people could vote for me, and then we could auto lynch someone if we need to. Just sayin'
This ability honestly sounds about as anti-town as they get. On the other hand it's damn useful for scum who can get to late game and just slam down a lynch.
Secondly, you didn't even bother to defend yourself but just pointed at your role. That sounds like something scum love to do.
There's also another reason to vote you but I'll reveal it after we're done claiming.
This ability honestly sounds about as anti-town as they get. On the other hand it's damn useful for scum who can get to late game and just slam down a lynch.
Secondly, you didn't even bother to defend yourself but just pointed at your role. That sounds like something scum love to do.
There's also another reason to vote you but I'll reveal it after we're done claiming.
Unvote. Vote: ThisUserHasBeenCloned
Will claim in my next post.
He wanted to know why my Ability was protown, that's why I pointed to my Role. Go ahead, vote for me.
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Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
Asking me questions is fine, telling me what to do isn't. I am incapable of doing anything but voting.
Why did you not want me to answer DRey?
Modern
WBR Mardu Midrange
UR Storm
Commander
WBR Queen Marchesa Stax
WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Pillowfort
RRR Krenko, Mob Boss Chaos
DRey (4) - AsianInvasion, dropkickdude, Gigas1, Heartwork
Kraj (3) - Alpha Werewolf, Heartwork, Zajnet
Arcadic (2) - L_P, ThisUserHasBeenCloned
Cyan (2) - Ambassador Laquatus, WoD
AsianInvasion (1) - Infinis
Ambassador Laquatus (1) - etherealscorpions
Heartwork (1) - Arcadic
Gigas1 (1) - TIM
Zajnet (1) - Kraj
Move to the Condemned Halls:
Yes (3) - vezokpiraka, Arcadic, Heartwork
No (9) - jdisawesomesauce, Zajnet, Lost_Profit, etherealscorpions, ThisUserHasBeenCloned, Alpha Werewolf, dropkickdude, AL, Fenris
With 23 alive, it's 12 to lynch/move.
That's interacting with the game, which is something that mods shouldn't do.
As a point of interest, the list in the first post actually isn't truly random - it's the order in which players signed up for the game.
"...a talisman against all evil, so long as you obey me."
Why would anyone supposedly fake-claiming vanilla claim to be able to Survey still?
Modern
WBR Mardu Midrange
UR Storm
Commander
WBR Queen Marchesa Stax
WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Pillowfort
RRR Krenko, Mob Boss Chaos
bah
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
are you scum? if not, please stop asking questions that favor scum.
im not helping them.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
How does my question help the scum? I'm asking you why you wouldn't just assume I couldn't Survey since I said I was Vanilla. You know, as in plain, as in powerless.
Modern
WBR Mardu Midrange
UR Storm
Commander
WBR Queen Marchesa Stax
WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Pillowfort
RRR Krenko, Mob Boss Chaos
Claims
Cyan: Loggi Stormpike, Town Mage, Bronzebeard. (Watcher/RP Booster.)
Ambassador Laquatus: Fanny Thundermar, Town Rogue, Wildhammer. (Tracker.)
Kraj: High Priest Rohan, Town Priest, Bronzebeard. (Tracker/Watcher/Cop.)
Emo_Pinata: Glorin Steelbrow, Town Priest, Bronzebeard. (Tracker/Watcher/Cop.)
dropkickdude: Kurdran Wildhammer, Vanilla Town, Wildhammer. (No abilities.)
Lost_Profit: Dheldormu, Bronze Dragon, Neutral Seeker. (Self-Healer/1-Shot Bulletproof/Super-Tracker, Leaves game after collecting 12 Relics.)
etherealscorpions
vezokpiraka
Archmage Eternal
DRey
Wrath_of_DoG
Heartwork
TheIceMan
Fenris
jdisawesomesauce
Zajnet
Alpha Werewolf
Gigas1
Infinis
Arcadic
tordeck
ThisUserHasBeenCloned
AsianInvasion
Let me know if I missed a claim.
Since I feel that people really have no idea how to approach a mass claim:
NO CLAIM DISCUSSION UNTIL MASS CLAIM IS OVER
1. Are you told who that player targeted, and if so, what abilities he used?
2. Are you told who targeted that player, and if so, what abilities were used on him?
3. Are you told how many Relics that player Surveyed, and if so, whether that player was successful, and if so, what those Relics were?
I'm coming around to Cyan's point of view that DRey might literally just have no idea what's going on, but I'm still keeping my vote on him until I actually get town vibes from him.
This makes a bit more sense, but why do you assume that mafia are the only ones that can manipulate people's corruption? I assume we probably have some town roles that would benefit from knowing where people's corruption is, but on the other hand I'd also say that it's likely that corruption is affected by our environment, otherwise it's basically just a second NK mechanic.
I agree with Kraj on Zajnet.
agree.
how come you forbid claim talking and one second later want to discuss a claim?
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
zindabad was so nice as to answer before I would even have to ask. <3
I see abilities used, only. Not who they targeted, not who targeted them, and not their results. Given that it is an ability, I should see a player surveying, but not how much or whether they were successful.
Updated: 05/24/11
[The Family]
I agree with this. When a mass-claim is done this early, I actually prefer this. That way, when someone that was posting regularly suddenly stops posting, you know something is up.
When you read the thread, just claim. Being completely arbitrary about it can't be any different than following the 'order that people signed up' list.
Clarification =|= discussion.
This question solidifies my previous assessment.
Gotcha.
He's pretty cool like that.
So your result would look something like this?
"[Player X] used [Ability Y] on [Night Z] (and/or) [Player X] Surveyed on [Night Z] (or) [Player X] did nothing on [Night Z]."
...basically making you a rolecop. Can you rolecop the same Night you heal yourself of Corruption?
Put that way, yes. I should make explicit, as I realize this wasn't clear in the initial claim, that it is a one shot ability.
The corruption heal can be activated at any time. So I don't know if that's a yes, but even if not, I can clear my corruption at the end or beginning of a day even if not.
Updated: 05/24/11
[The Family]
It lets me invite up to three other players into a prayer group. During that time those players cannot perform any other actions, but if at least two of them agree to join they lose 15 corruption. My corruption is reduced by 15 as well, and I am automatically resistant to corruption.
There is no RP involved, I cannot survey, and I can perform this action every night.
Vote: Drey Scummy.
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Votes exist to get the majority opinion of the town.
/rant
Now a claim
I am Battered Red Drake and am Vanilla Town, I am a member of the honor guard for her majesty.
I have a passive ability: When in a certain zone (Not naming it because that would null and void my ability), my corruption is reduced instead of increased.
Note: this means that Vanilla town have an ability that makes them want to move. Which leads me to question this claim by DKD
I didn't think there would be straight vanilla's in this game. They would have no reason to move or risk venturing into the dungeon.
vote: DKD
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Updated: 05/24/11
[The Family]
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Guess we're claimg? Really? Need to look into this.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
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I am Furen Longbeard, Town Blacksmith, Bronzebeard.
I can survey like normal.
I have the ability Armorsmithing. Once a night, but only if we're in the Khardros's Anvil Zone, I can craft a suit of armor for a player. Zind specifically says that that suit of armor can't change hands via looting, etc, which is interesting. The armor does nothing unless I imbue it with RP. I can choose any number of the following, as long as I have RP for it:
3 RP: I put a regeneration shield on him. The next time he would die, he doesn't.
4 RP: This makes the wearer's surveys resolve as if they were one number lower, but you still get all that you surveyed for provided they aren't out yet.
9 RP: The armor reflects all abilities that aren't kills.
15 RP: Full immunity to kills forever.
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Haha, I posted my votes earlier back, I haven't checked in a while because it wasn't Friday yet. I'm strictly against Mass Claims this early on.
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My abilities are
Alexstrasza's Tenacity (passive): As long as you have this ability, votes on you don't count. (They won't show up in votecounts.) Whenever another player votes for you, you gain 1 null vote point.
Alexstrasza's Judgment (active, day): Target another player and calculate that player's lynch threshold. If that player's lynch threshold is equal to or less than the number of null vote points you currently have, all of your null vote points are consumed, you lose this ability and Alexstrasza's Tenacity, and the targeted player is instantly lynched, ending the day. (If the player is at L-5 and you have 5 or more null vote points, this ability will be successful. Otherwise, it will do nothing and you can't use it again until the next day phase.)
Her Lingering Essence (passive): While in the Lifebinder's Cell Zone, your Corruption is healed instead of increased.
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Yes it looked like it was going to head into a mass claim, but to force the hand of town was not on.
Some of those voted yes because the damage had already been done by people claiming anyway, the vote may have turned out different if people hadnt jumped the gun.
It was anti the spirit of co-operation and it shattered my confidence in town being able to co-operate.
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I'm catching up and reading the latests posts. There was a vote? Was it a mojority? Did everyone vote except me? If not I wonder if there would have been a majority.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Sometimes, you just have to make things happen.
Unrelatedly, posting alot complaining about the mass claim won't actually get you out of claiming.
@AE: There wasn't a formal vote, but the mass claim is still happening.
Well quite an ability, why would you put the zone you heal in on here, now you wont have that opportunity to heal corruption because you wont be targetted in the lifebinder zone
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Why is claiming now a good thing?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Ahh I have already claimed in one of the complaining posts above. Its going ahead now I wasnt going to not participate.
It's not, it makes everyone a target early on. the Mafia now knows who will hurt them, and they will be NK'd
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So its a scum fishing expedition then. Reading to see who started and pushed for it. Was involved with one of these before. Yeah, scum pushed it.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
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Also, I hear that understanding context is a good thing.
@jd: My apologies then. I looked for that before making that post, but must have missed it.
Anyway. If we could proceed with the rest of the claims now, we can move onto discussing them, planning out Surveying, etc.
I am. Just read your post #92.
Knowing how Zindabad is always in favor of claims leads reason to think it'd be smart for the town to claim in this game. Kraj had good points in favor of a claim too.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
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Not sure if you read my claim, but if you wanna think I'm scummy, go ahead.
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It's not clearly pro town, however, people could vote for me, and then we could auto lynch someone if we need to. Just sayin'
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I can protect a player by redirecting the kill to myself. If my RP is high enough I won't die.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
This ability honestly sounds about as anti-town as they get. On the other hand it's damn useful for scum who can get to late game and just slam down a lynch.
Secondly, you didn't even bother to defend yourself but just pointed at your role. That sounds like something scum love to do.
There's also another reason to vote you but I'll reveal it after we're done claiming.
Unvote. Vote: ThisUserHasBeenCloned
Will claim in my next post.
He wanted to know why my Ability was protown, that's why I pointed to my Role. Go ahead, vote for me.
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