Because there's almost no benefit and a potential for serious risk.
Don't see any risk in it what so ever. Odds are sooner or later he's dead.
You have no way of knowing, though. Maybe the mafia have a flavor hint that suggests there's a power role with a particular characteristic, and Cyan claims his flavor and oh look he's the doc and that's the end of his life. And that's exactly what a good mod would do to mitigate the risk of something like a mass rolename claim.
That, plus the lack of any real benefit to doing it, plus the fact I think Megiddo is scummy, all add up to "this is a bad idea".
I find Zionite is far more laissez faire as town, he adopts a sort of "wait and see" approach. He is also imo, more apt to relax his vote and think, as he did after fades comment.
Then we are worlds apart in this game.
Are you surprised?
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TownCyan would falsely claim to be a miller because...... he doesn't know if he is one or not.
You're trying to apply the general case to mudsling on TMCT while ignoring that his line of thought makes sense in this specific case.
A role that is hinted to be a miller but isn't one makes absolutely no sense.
A role that is hinted to be a miller and actually is one makes perfect sense.
I am going to assume that Cyan is a miller and everyone else should as well. He's not scum trying to bait an investigation (especially not as a godfather) because that is just terrible on so many levels and Cyan is not a terrible player. Full stop.
And how does that example prove Cyan won't pull a miller gambit?
It doesn't, but Cyan is not a reckless player, whereas a miller gambit is super reckless because it paints a big target on the player's forehead for the vig to snipe.
And how does that example prove Cyan won't pull a miller gambit?
It doesn't, but Cyan is not a reckless player, whereas a miller gambit is super reckless because it paints a big target on the player's forehead for the vig to snipe.
Forgot to mention I am digging you as town though, AI. You havnt imploded yet so youre probably not scum.
Ouch. I guess I didn't play very well in Survival Horror, but I'm not that bad as scum.
He didnt run a miller gambit, but he did run a risky gambit. I remember, I was his scum partner and tried to blow up his gambit because I hated it.
I've been scum with cyan a couple times, have discussed mafia theory with him back in the day, been a clanmate with him, called him on his doctor gambit successfully in Indiana Jones mafia (example two :hifive:), and consider myself a rather cerebral and gambity scum player (surely you can agree to this), and as such I'm confidant in my suspicions of cyan.
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I see where you're coming from at this point, though I'm still inclined to believe that Cyan is more likely town at this point—if he's scum, why the "uh maybe kinda" claim rather than just a full miller claim? A full miller claim attracts much less attention than what he actually did.
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i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
I've been scum with cyan a couple times, have discussed mafia theory with him back in the day, been a clanmate with him, called him on his doctor gambit successfully in Indiana Jones mafia (example two :hifive:), and consider myself a rather cerebral and gambity scum player (surely you can agree to this), and as such I'm confidant in my suspicions of cyan.
Cyan actually was the (mafia) doctor in Indy.
I guess you're entitled to your opinion, but I still think that Cyan's recent meta points to him being cautious as scum as opposed to reckless as you seem to believe. You're allowed to disagree, but I don't foresee myself lending my vote to your cause.
A)That was years ago, B)it didn't work, and C)if it HAD worked, it would guarantee that me and a scumbuddy would win the game with no effort, and D)that was the only time I've ever run any kind of gambit as scum. One example for something and tons of examples against it does not make a convincing case.
Also, this situation is radically different, given that I am claiming a role that almost guarantees that I will get vigged(and correctly so) at some point.
I see where you're coming from at this point, though I'm still inclined to believe that Cyan is more likely town at this point—if he's scum, why the "uh maybe kinda" claim rather than just a full miller claim? A full miller claim attracts much less attention than what he actually did.
Because Cyan is smart enough to think of what you are saying.
If Cyan weren't sure if he was a miller, he'd probably say nothing imo.
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A)That was years ago, B)it didn't work, and C)if it HAD worked, it would guarantee that me and a scumbuddy would win the game with no effort, and D)that was the only time I've ever run any kind of gambit as scum. One example for something and tons of examples against it does not make a convincing case.
Also, this situation is radically different, given that I am claiming a role that almost guarantees that I will get vigged(and correctly so) at some point.
*yawn*
Different day, same ole Cyan *hurrrr its not convincing cause I say so* rhetoric.
And as shown, you claimed doctor as scum. To me even if you're scum doctor thats still halfway to a gambit.
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I've been scum with cyan a couple times, have discussed mafia theory with him back in the day, been a clanmate with him, called him on his doctor gambit successfully in Indiana Jones mafia (example two :hifive:), and consider myself a rather cerebral and gambity scum player (surely you can agree to this), and as such I'm confidant in my suspicions of cyan.
Cyan actually was the (mafia) doctor in Indy.
I guess you're entitled to your opinion, but I still think that Cyan's recent meta points to him being cautious as scum as opposed to reckless as you seem to believe. You're allowed to disagree, but I don't foresee myself lending my vote to your cause.
Well as long as you're lending to my Iso cause I think we'll be alright.
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I see where you're coming from at this point, though I'm still inclined to believe that Cyan is more likely town at this point—if he's scum, why the "uh maybe kinda" claim rather than just a full miller claim? A full miller claim attracts much less attention than what he actually did.
Because Cyan is smart enough to think of what you are saying.
If Cyan weren't sure if he was a miller, he'd probably say nothing imo.
Right. After the Mod refused to answer whether or not I am a Miller.
And then when I got investigated(which happens constantly), I would just be stone dead. Do you actually think these arguments through? At all?
AI is like 'here is an example of a scum game that just happened where Cyan played nothing like you said(nevermind that you tried to run the same ****ty arguments in that game as well and couldn't even get a lynch to stick despite knowing for a fact that I was scum, also see MTGS Mafia Redux 2)', and all you can come up with is 'here is some game that happened 5 or something years ago, where Cyan ran a gambit under radically different circumstances. Herp derp he must be scum now too!'
And claiming Doc when you are a scum Doc is pretty obviously not a gambit, it is just a claim. Your 'make up whatever nonsense I feel like and hope people are impressed' doesn't work against players that actually know anything about this game. You are such a joke.
I see where you're coming from at this point, though I'm still inclined to believe that Cyan is more likely town at this point—if he's scum, why the "uh maybe kinda" claim rather than just a full miller claim? A full miller claim attracts much less attention than what he actually did.
Because Cyan is smart enough to think of what you are saying.
If Cyan weren't sure if he was a miller, he'd probably say nothing imo.
Right. After the Mod refused to answer whether or not I am a Miller.
And then when I got investigated(which happens constantly), I would just be stone dead. Do you actually think these arguments through? At all?
AI is like 'here is an example of a scum game that just happened where Cyan played nothing like you said(nevermind that you tried to run the same ****ty arguments in that game as well and couldn't even get a lynch to stick despite knowing for a fact that I was scum, also see MTGS Mafia Redux 2)', and all you can come up with is 'here is some game that happened 5 or something years ago, where Cyan ran a gambit under radically different circumstances. Herp derp he must be scum now too!'
And claiming Doc when you are a scum Doc is pretty obviously not a gambit, it is just a claim. Your 'make up whatever nonsense I feel like and hope people are impressed' doesn't work against players that actually know anything about this game. You are such a joke.
Hey look, more "urgh i'm cyan watch how much of a jerk I can be to give the façade i'm right" rhetoric.
And your inability to keep friends is a joke. How about that.
Also pret sure everytime Cyan has called me a joke or a bad player he's been scum, because frankly he knows it's a lie and also knows saying that will probably piss me off and throw me off my game.
Not this time pal! Your goose is cooked!
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Also pret sure everytime Cyan has called me a joke or a bad player he's been scum, because frankly he knows it's a lie and also knows saying that will probably piss me off and throw me off my game.
Not this time pal! Your goose is cooked!
Swing and a miss. In Survival Horror(where I was scum, just in case you've forgotten), I said nothing of the sort at any point. Do you actually have a logically relevant argument to make at any point?
Also pret sure everytime Cyan has called me a joke or a bad player he's been scum, because frankly he knows it's a lie and also knows saying that will probably piss me off and throw me off my game.
Not this time pal! Your goose is cooked!
Swing and a miss. In Survival Horror(where I was scum, just in case you've forgotten), I said nothing of the sort at any point. Do you actually have a logically relevant argument to make at any point?
We were both scum in survival horror.
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Also pret sure everytime Cyan has called me a joke or a bad player he's been scum, because frankly he knows it's a lie and also knows saying that will probably piss me off and throw me off my game.
Not this time pal! Your goose is cooked!
Swing and a miss. In Survival Horror(where I was scum, just in case you've forgotten), I said nothing of the sort at any point. Do you actually have a logically relevant argument to make at any point?
We were both scum in survival horror.
Womp womp wooooommmmmmpppppppp.
Tell me again(for the first time) how that is relevant to what you said?
Also pret sure everytime Cyan has called me a joke or a bad player he's been scum, because frankly he knows it's a lie and also knows saying that will probably piss me off and throw me off my game.
Not this time pal! Your goose is cooked!
Swing and a miss. In Survival Horror(where I was scum, just in case you've forgotten), I said nothing of the sort at any point. Do you actually have a logically relevant argument to make at any point?
We were both scum in survival horror.
Womp womp wooooommmmmmpppppppp.
Tell me again(for the first time) how that is relevant to what you said?
Are you drunk, or are you just purposefully trying to dillute everything with your ridiculous cyan rhetoric?
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Also pret sure everytime Cyan has called me a joke or a bad player he's been scum, because frankly he knows it's a lie and also knows saying that will probably piss me off and throw me off my game.
Not this time pal! Your goose is cooked!
Swing and a miss. In Survival Horror(where I was scum, just in case you've forgotten), I said nothing of the sort at any point. Do you actually have a logically relevant argument to make at any point?
We were both scum in survival horror.
Womp womp wooooommmmmmpppppppp.
Tell me again(for the first time) how that is relevant to what you said?
It's relevant to what you're saying.
You must be drunk.
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So, Condoms/Cyan as bussing scumbuddies? The degree of hostility going on here seems a bit over the top for what's actually happened. Which is nothing.
I also think Iso is just blowing smoke (again) and it feels like he does something like this every game he ever plays. Which is a bit tiresome. The whole "fake-daykill" thing period is a bit tiresome. I wish people wouldn't do it anymore.
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So, Condoms/Cyan as bussing scumbuddies? The degree of hostility going on here seems a bit over the top for what's actually happened. Which is nothing.
I also think Iso is just blowing smoke (again) and it feels like he does something like this every game he ever plays. Which is a bit tiresome. The whole "fake-daykill" thing period is a bit tiresome. I wish people wouldn't do it anymore.
I have caught Cyan as scum and he is very frustrated.
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Yet you completely ignore kpaca's meta where he does **** like this regardless of alignment, despite the fact you are using meta to explain why you aren't voting for Seppel or Zio?[/font][/COLOR]
Not really. He usually plays up some kill shot. I remember in Checks & Balances he didn't come out gunning for Cyan. It took him awhile and he asked for help doing it. They were both town.
Voting Cyan is stupid. If you think he should be dead, he should be vigged rather than lynched; that's miller SOP. But I don't think Cyan would pull this gambit as scum; his scum game is much more calculated and long-term. See the recently completed Survival Horror for an example. I'm willing to trust Cyan until he gives me reason not to.
@Iso: I don't see how anyone can be suspicious of Megiddo right now. He hasn't said anything that should give anyone a read on him on way or the other.
Because there's almost no benefit and a potential for serious risk.
Don't see any risk in it what so ever. Odds are sooner or later he's dead.
You have no way of knowing, though. Maybe the mafia have a flavor hint that suggests there's a power role with a particular characteristic, and Cyan claims his flavor and oh look he's the doc and that's the end of his life. And that's exactly what a good mod would do to mitigate the risk of something like a mass rolename claim.
That, plus the lack of any real benefit to doing it, plus the fact I think Megiddo is scummy, all add up to "this is a bad idea".
But I am the cook, kpain. That's where I got this knife.
Absolute last chance for you to claim, Megs. There is no reason for you to withhold this information from us if you're town. If you guys don't want Megiddo dead after his next post, you're going to have to lynch me.
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2. Really don't like Xyre. His FoS is the definition of scum FoSes. He wasn't even voting someone at the time. His Cyan claiming posts seem very fearmongering and full of conspiracies. Second biggest scumspect.
3. I don't like Iso's double-lynch when it is actually an unilateral daykill thing. And him waving it around like he is kpaca leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Put Iso down as Number 3.
4. Cyan and kpaca are a bickering married couple. Oh and they are also town.
5. I have no idea why people are calling meg scum. I don't even know why people have a thought on him at all.
Absolute last chance for you to claim, Megs. There is no reason for you to withhold this information from us if you're town. If you guys don't want Megiddo dead after his next post, you're going to have to lynch me.
This is a terrible idea. There is no reason for you to unilaterally lynch/Daykill Megiddo. And to basically invite a lynch on yourself to prevent said Daykill is beyond idiotic.
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2. Really don't like Xyre. His FoS is the definition of scum FoSes. He wasn't even voting someone at the time. His Cyan claiming posts seem very fearmongering and full of conspiracies. Second biggest scumspect.
3. I don't like Iso's double-lynch when it is actually an unilateral daykill thing. And him waving it around like he is kpaca leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Put Iso down as Number 3.
4. Cyan and kpaca are a bickering married couple. Oh and they are also town.
5. I have no idea why people are calling meg scum. I don't even know why people have a thought on him at all.
The FOS was on purpose, because my role restricts the use of my vote.
I don't like how aggressively Iso is chasing a claim from Meggido. But I don't think scumIso would be that bold so early on. Iso is just craving attention for some reason.
I don't like how aggressively Iso is chasing a claim from Meggido. But I don't think scumIso would be that bold so early on. Iso is just craving attention for some reason.
What is your opinion of Megiddo?
If the choice is between lynching Iso or allowing Iso to AEzWoLG Megiddo, which do you prefer? (Assume there is no alternative, as Iso seems to be suggesting.)
I'm still technically V/LA. Does anyone want me to do anything before Megiddo dies? I should be able to provide in-depth commentary tomorrow.
This doesn't work out to your benefit. If Megiddo is town and you proceed, people are just going to push for your lynch. If he is scum, people are still not going to give you any additional credit.
If you think Megiddo is scum, prove it in the normal way.
People that are piling on Iso here aren't helping either. Is this a line that you think he would take as scum? I don't think it is. This is the type of behavior that I've come to expect out of him as town, and it's likely too late to break him of these bad habits. If a bunch of people vote him, he's just going to fire regardless.
Iso, you need to either provide a case against Megiddo that everyone else can process and get behind(or disagree with), or, you need to move on until you can provide a case against him.
In mostly unrelated news, Guardman's last post sucks. Xyre may be misguided, but his intentions seem pure, and his opposition to my claiming my role flavor, based upon Megiddo requesting it, is consistent with his anti-Megiddo mindset in a pro-town way. The rest of Guardman's post is just regurgitation.
I don't like how aggressively Iso is chasing a claim from Meggido. But I don't think scumIso would be that bold so early on. Iso is just craving attention for some reason.
What is your opinion of Megiddo?
If the choice is between lynching Iso or allowing Iso to AEzWoLG Megiddo, which do you prefer? (Assume there is no alternative, as Iso seems to be suggesting.)
I'm undecided on Megiddo. It's going to take me a bit of time to get a read on him, but I'm not in a hurry.
In mostly unrelated news, Guardman's last post sucks. Xyre may be misguided, but his intentions seem pure, and his opposition to my claiming my role flavor, based upon Megiddo requesting it, is consistent with his anti-Megiddo mindset in a pro-town way. The rest of Guardman's post is just regurgitation.
I have a feeling if I posted a cure for cancer you would say it would put the poor pharmaceutical company out of business. A bit hyperbolic, I know, but you are becoming a broken record where everything I post is horrible.
So: Build a case on Megiddo and don't kill Megiddo before I kill Megiddo. Got it.
@Cyan: Megiddo's alignment actually doesn't play as much into this scenario so much as mine does. If I'm scum then there is no way I'm shooting a town Megs with people baying for my blood. I have Vigged scumbuddies before. Ergo, I don't expect any town credit for killing a potentially scum Megiddo with my ability. Hell, I would have probably kept it quiet until a desperate moment if I were scum. If people want to write that off as WIFOM, okay, but there is absolutely nothing to gain for a scum Iso in this scenario.
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So: Build a case on Megiddo and don't kill Megiddo before I kill Megiddo. Got it.
@Cyan: Megiddo's alignment actually doesn't play as much into this scenario so much as mine does. If I'm scum then there is no way I'm shooting a town Megs with people baying for my blood. I have Vigged scumbuddies before. Ergo, I don't expect any town credit for killing a potentially scum Megiddo with my ability. Hell, I would have probably kept it quiet until a desperate moment if I were scum. If people want to write that off as WIFOM, okay, but there is absolutely nothing to gain for a scum Iso in this scenario.
Well nice to know I'm in another game where everything has to be about you
Don't believe you one bit.
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You have no way of knowing, though. Maybe the mafia have a flavor hint that suggests there's a power role with a particular characteristic, and Cyan claims his flavor and oh look he's the doc and that's the end of his life. And that's exactly what a good mod would do to mitigate the risk of something like a mass rolename claim.
That, plus the lack of any real benefit to doing it, plus the fact I think Megiddo is scummy, all add up to "this is a bad idea".
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@Iso: Why are you so eager to use your ability? And what exactly is the case against Megiddo?
Can someone point me to games that are typical of Megiddo's playstyle?
Are you surprised?
And how does that example prove Cyan won't pull a miller gambit?
As for my example:
Superhero mafia. Boom roasted, you lose.
Surely you'll understand if I put more stock into my opinion of Cyan than you, yeah?
He was the cop in Survival Horror.
He was the brawler in Ataghan.
He was vanilla town in The Hunger Games.
He was the mafia heroine (two-Night RBer) in Magical Girl.
Ahem.
It doesn't, but Cyan is not a reckless player, whereas a miller gambit is super reckless because it paints a big target on the player's forehead for the vig to snipe.
Are you sure? I searched for "miller" with 0 hits.
Ouch. I guess I didn't play very well in Survival Horror, but I'm not that bad as scum.
He didnt run a miller gambit, but he did run a risky gambit. I remember, I was his scum partner and tried to blow up his gambit because I hated it.
I've been scum with cyan a couple times, have discussed mafia theory with him back in the day, been a clanmate with him, called him on his doctor gambit successfully in Indiana Jones mafia (example two :hifive:), and consider myself a rather cerebral and gambity scum player (surely you can agree to this), and as such I'm confidant in my suspicions of cyan.
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I also looked at Superhero and am not sure what condoms is talking about there.
That is one hell of a gambit.
I see where you're coming from at this point, though I'm still inclined to believe that Cyan is more likely town at this point—if he's scum, why the "uh maybe kinda" claim rather than just a full miller claim? A full miller claim attracts much less attention than what he actually did.
Oh, he claimed to be confirmed masons with you. Yeah, that is risky.
Cyan actually was the (mafia) doctor in Indy.
I guess you're entitled to your opinion, but I still think that Cyan's recent meta points to him being cautious as scum as opposed to reckless as you seem to believe. You're allowed to disagree, but I don't foresee myself lending my vote to your cause.
Also, this situation is radically different, given that I am claiming a role that almost guarantees that I will get vigged(and correctly so) at some point.
Because Cyan is smart enough to think of what you are saying.
If Cyan weren't sure if he was a miller, he'd probably say nothing imo.
*yawn*
Different day, same ole Cyan *hurrrr its not convincing cause I say so* rhetoric.
And as shown, you claimed doctor as scum. To me even if you're scum doctor thats still halfway to a gambit.
Well as long as you're lending to my Iso cause I think we'll be alright.
Right. After the Mod refused to answer whether or not I am a Miller.
And then when I got investigated(which happens constantly), I would just be stone dead. Do you actually think these arguments through? At all?
AI is like 'here is an example of a scum game that just happened where Cyan played nothing like you said(nevermind that you tried to run the same ****ty arguments in that game as well and couldn't even get a lynch to stick despite knowing for a fact that I was scum, also see MTGS Mafia Redux 2)', and all you can come up with is 'here is some game that happened 5 or something years ago, where Cyan ran a gambit under radically different circumstances. Herp derp he must be scum now too!'
And claiming Doc when you are a scum Doc is pretty obviously not a gambit, it is just a claim. Your 'make up whatever nonsense I feel like and hope people are impressed' doesn't work against players that actually know anything about this game. You are such a joke.
Hey look, more "urgh i'm cyan watch how much of a jerk I can be to give the façade i'm right" rhetoric.
And your inability to keep friends is a joke. How about that.
Boom roasted.
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Not this time pal! Your goose is cooked!
Swing and a miss. In Survival Horror(where I was scum, just in case you've forgotten), I said nothing of the sort at any point. Do you actually have a logically relevant argument to make at any point?
We were both scum in survival horror.
Womp womp wooooommmmmmpppppppp.
Tell me again(for the first time) how that is relevant to what you said?
Not you when you're scum, you always call me a joke.
Are you drunk, or are you just purposefully trying to dillute everything with your ridiculous cyan rhetoric?
It's relevant to what you're saying.
You must be drunk.
I also think Iso is just blowing smoke (again) and it feels like he does something like this every game he ever plays. Which is a bit tiresome. The whole "fake-daykill" thing period is a bit tiresome. I wish people wouldn't do it anymore.
I have caught Cyan as scum and he is very frustrated.
/agree
Though with his recent posts, only slightly /agree
This is the biggest post I've ever seen AE make. Must be scum.
He has.
This is very un-Xyre.
Everyone vote cyan or Iso. Or do something else. If you vote meggiddo you are nonobjectively the worst player in this game.
Absolute last chance for you to claim, Megs. There is no reason for you to withhold this information from us if you're town. If you guys don't want Megiddo dead after his next post, you're going to have to lynch me.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
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1. AE is still my number one scumspect.
2. Really don't like Xyre. His FoS is the definition of scum FoSes. He wasn't even voting someone at the time. His Cyan claiming posts seem very fearmongering and full of conspiracies. Second biggest scumspect.
3. I don't like Iso's double-lynch when it is actually an unilateral daykill thing. And him waving it around like he is kpaca leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Put Iso down as Number 3.
4. Cyan and kpaca are a bickering married couple. Oh and they are also town.
5. I have no idea why people are calling meg scum. I don't even know why people have a thought on him at all.
This is a terrible idea. There is no reason for you to unilaterally lynch/Daykill Megiddo. And to basically invite a lynch on yourself to prevent said Daykill is beyond idiotic.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I want you to not unilaterally kill Megiddo.
Seconded.
Even you Cyan.
The FOS was on purpose, because my role restricts the use of my vote.
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Xyre is probably town.
What is your opinion of Megiddo?
If the choice is between lynching Iso or allowing Iso to AEzWoLG Megiddo, which do you prefer? (Assume there is no alternative, as Iso seems to be suggesting.)
Based on his FoS usage and subsequent partial claim alone, or other factors?
This doesn't work out to your benefit. If Megiddo is town and you proceed, people are just going to push for your lynch. If he is scum, people are still not going to give you any additional credit.
If you think Megiddo is scum, prove it in the normal way.
People that are piling on Iso here aren't helping either. Is this a line that you think he would take as scum? I don't think it is. This is the type of behavior that I've come to expect out of him as town, and it's likely too late to break him of these bad habits. If a bunch of people vote him, he's just going to fire regardless.
Iso, you need to either provide a case against Megiddo that everyone else can process and get behind(or disagree with), or, you need to move on until you can provide a case against him.
In mostly unrelated news, Guardman's last post sucks. Xyre may be misguided, but his intentions seem pure, and his opposition to my claiming my role flavor, based upon Megiddo requesting it, is consistent with his anti-Megiddo mindset in a pro-town way. The rest of Guardman's post is just regurgitation.
I'm undecided on Megiddo. It's going to take me a bit of time to get a read on him, but I'm not in a hurry.
The former.
Why didn't you say so in when you FoSed?
I have a feeling if I posted a cure for cancer you would say it would put the poor pharmaceutical company out of business. A bit hyperbolic, I know, but you are becoming a broken record where everything I post is horrible.
@Cyan: Megiddo's alignment actually doesn't play as much into this scenario so much as mine does. If I'm scum then there is no way I'm shooting a town Megs with people baying for my blood. I have Vigged scumbuddies before. Ergo, I don't expect any town credit for killing a potentially scum Megiddo with my ability. Hell, I would have probably kept it quiet until a desperate moment if I were scum. If people want to write that off as WIFOM, okay, but there is absolutely nothing to gain for a scum Iso in this scenario.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Well nice to know I'm in another game where everything has to be about you
Don't believe you one bit.