Anyway, as far as I can see that's 5 votes on Helix, putting him at L-2; no one else vote him! We need to see a claim before deciding whether or not to actually lynch him.
Anyway, as far as I can see that's 5 votes on Helix, putting him at L-2; no one else vote him! We need to see a claim before deciding whether or not to actually lynch him.
What is there to say at this point? I am a town, this is my firt game in 3 years, and that game was my first. singled out for being late (i get that part) i make a defense for my self, puts a target on me. People vote for me so i put a a "here we go" gif up, more people vote for me. It seems like the best COA would be to not do anything at all and stop posting.
Helix: By claim, we are requesting that you give the details of your role. Refer to the 1st post:
You may quote your company name, your allegiance, and powers.
so we want to hear those things, like the bolded red text in your PM and where it says "during the Night, you may be selected to kill a player" or whatever
Just got to say, you've definitely earned distinction as an MTGS hero
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ExpiredRascals you sir are a god-like hero.
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ER is a masterful god who cannot be beaten in any endeavour.
Just got to say, you've definitely earned distinction as an MTGS hero
Quote from Stardust »
Because he's the hero MTGS deserves, and the one it needs right now. So we'll global him. Because he can take it. Because he's not just our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. An expired rascal.
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ExpiredRascals you sir are a god-like hero.
Quote from Lanxal »
ER is a masterful god who cannot be beaten in any endeavour.
Helix: By claim, we are requesting that you give the details of your role. Refer to the 1st post:
You may quote your company name, your allegiance, and powers.
so we want to hear those things, like the bolded red text in your PM and where it says "during the Night, you may be selected to kill a player" or whatever
I do not have powers since nothing stating at night was in the pm. This is my quote from the pm.
Yeah, but you do have a unique opportunity right now. Since you've been lynched, your alignment will be confirmed at twilight. This means that assuming you're not trying to just keep up appearances, if you have any insights or opinions before the lynch is processed, this is when your voice has the greatest weight. If you're really town, you should make use of it
Just got to say, you've definitely earned distinction as an MTGS hero
Quote from Stardust »
Because he's the hero MTGS deserves, and the one it needs right now. So we'll global him. Because he can take it. Because he's not just our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. An expired rascal.
Quote from LuckNorris »
ExpiredRascals you sir are a god-like hero.
Quote from Lanxal »
ER is a masterful god who cannot be beaten in any endeavour.
I'm down for this wagon. No vote on kaburi's part, even though he finds at least two people to be scummy.
Again, I don't vote unless 1) it's RVS or 2) I have compelling reasons. Right now I'm still in the observational stage, with no damning actions to justify a vote.
I dislike your mindset of sitting around and observing what goes on, without wanting to influence what's going on via pressure.
Also, you claimed that there was scum between two particular players. Without any "I think" type-phrases you seemed quite certain of this. And making such a claim is rather odd, if you apparently have no 'compelling reasons' behind it.
Not loving Tom's RVS vote. To me it seems like trying to consciously push the the joke too far, faking nonchalance. I'm kinda sitting on this until I see more from him though.
My RVS was infinitely better than yours.
I assume this is the post you want me to respond to, Tom. If not, point me at the right one and I'll be glad to respond.
I think I've said it a dozen times now, but this is my personality. As for not applying pressure and whatnot, I'm not comfortable being a dick to people without reason, so I'm not going to be one of those players (:cough:Karn) who goes around poking people with sticks to generate responses. I'm a scientist; my brain is analytical by nature. I need data. Day one always is very hard for me because there is no data except my own alignment for me to work off and I'm not confident enough in my own abilities to start making hypotheses without data. OTher than one fluke read in MM8 (which I mentioned above was right for the wrong reasons), I have never made a correct read.
The other relevant thing about my personality is that I'm not a confident person, especially when I'm doing something outside my comfort zone (and a game of mafia is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY outside my comfort zone). That lack of confidence coupled with my proven inability to correctly read people, means I'm never going to be the first person to jump in because I don't want to come off looking like a complete drooling idiot. It's just who I am.
Yeah I think ER just scum hammered and may get away with it because he might not be scum tomorrow?
I have no idea how we are supposed to play this game but I guess we will find out
Helix, you aren't dead until TK comes back and posts your death scene, so if there's anything you want to share feel free. Sorry to have kicked off your lynch so you don't actually get to play, I was half serious but I was also looking to get info from reactions. I guess we got plenty of reactions so we'll see what we can do tomorrow.
This is all academic. Helix is scum and the rest will reroll by toMorrow. I'm ending this now before we start going in circles.
Vote: Helix
I'd have thought this was just coincidence due to having the same timestamp, but ER's wording that he's ending it implies he knows he's hammering. Maybe I was too hasty in my earlier assessment that ER seems to be playing his town game.
On that note, Tom's reaction to the lynch seems to come from a town mindset. The whole thing looks like he genuinely miscounted and regrets making that mistake, rather than being opportunistic about making a "mistake."
EBWODP: My point above re: Tom was made because I didn't see Helix as being explicitly identified as being L-2 in my skim. GM's post that nathed mine made me go back and take a closer look and it turns out he was.
Tom: Did you just not read that post, or what?
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Also Helix: You referred to me as "he" a page or so ago. For the record, I'm a she.
It just dawned on me, if scum are rerolled every night then it would make zero sense for them to have night chat. Hence, to coordinate efforts they'd need to have daychat.
The leaders of the companies gathered. It was obvious to the town who was receiving kickbacks from the mafia. Feeding gluttony and obesity, Helix was no doubt evil! The other 12 corporations banded together to make sure that the corruption is stopped from spreading. After driving the stocks down, forcing Helix into insolvency, they perused his bookkeeping. All of it.
You are McDonald’s, Town Business
Known for: Cheap food, CHEAP food…
By far the largest restaurant food chain, your specialty is make it quick and make it fast. Customers rarely wait more than a minute after ordering to receive your food. However, that means you do need to cut down on time somewhere, like cooking food fresh or paying attention to detail. It may not be pretty, and it may not be pretty, but it gets the job done!
You may vote.
It looks like the reason Helix was so successful was just good business savvy. Knowing that the mafia was still out there, the night closed on Wall St. very tumultuously.
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She wants a ride on the pony, dude.
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With a mighty explosion that rocks the Earth, one of ExpiredRascals engine plants goes up in flames spectacularly in the middle of the night. His contracts unable to be filled, he will be out billions of dollars on each contract. The only thing left to do is investigate his book-keeping.
You are Boeing, Mafia Business with a Protest Organizer
Known for: Being a boat company that builds planes, starting in Seattle
Three things have come from Seattle: Grunge, Starbucks and Boeing. Boats were profitable at the time the company was started, but now planes are the wave of the future. Sailing high in the 777-200LR, Boeing continues to push the edge of aerospace design, while maintaining a strong holding in the fleets of air transport companies.
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For Day 1, you have hired a Protest Organizer. During the Night, you may target another player to prevent that player from using any abilities that night.
It looks like ExpiredRascals was inflating his own business while keeping other business down. The threat of destruction has been greatly reduced for the world of business! It is now Dawn 2 for 24 hours. NO POSTING!
I was scum yesterday, along with ER and wildfire. I'm town today.
There are 2 scum left obviously, one of them is vanilla (wildfire yesterday) and the other has a day shot role cop ability (me yesterday). They have dawn chat, day chat, night chat... all-the-time chat.
As scum in this game I know from experience that the scum are just trying to get to the next dawn alive, so that they can hopefully re-roll into town. Which - if people are still confused about how it works - is completely random for all players and all roles (although the roles within the town will stay within the town, and the roles within the scum stay within the scum). That said, we need to be on the lookout for lurkers.
Also, lets be careful about quicklynches
I role coped Specific yesterday and ER blocked Shockwave for some reason. We may or may not have attempted a NK.
Anyway, it's basically Day 1 again; everyone's role is completely randomized so interactions yesterday don't matter. This game will be all about instantaneous behavior and meta.
Well, then. ER blew up in the night. Either the NK got blocked/redirected/reflected or the scum suicided to increase the odds of rerolling town. I'm going to have to think about this some more...later this week, because:
BV, I point you to the word "could" in the post you quoted.
There are two options here:
1) I know something about the PRs, and I don't want to reveal it to the scum.
2) I don't know much about the PRs, and I'm taking this opportunity to confuse the scum.
My revealing that information could potentially out one or more town PRs to the mafia.
Sort of unsure of your position here. There are a couple of likely scenarios:
1) Someone successfully redirected/reflected the NK to ER (most likely)
2) ER was vigged: NK blocked by town PR (roleblock, doctor, etc)
3) ER was vigged: Mafia chose not to perform an NK
4) ???
So does it really make sense not to divulge what the scum tried to do? In the event of the likely answer "we tried to kill someone," you are only confirming that there is some sort of role that can stop the NK. You could even tell us who you tried to kill and it wouldn't really give us any more information, since even if it was that person's role who came into play, they probably don't have that role any more.
Knowing in slightly more detail what happened last night will give the town better information to judge claims in the future. Does anyone think this amount of information getting out to the current scum would be a liability?
BV, I point you to the word "could" in the post you quoted.
There are two options here:
1) I know something about the PRs, and I don't want to reveal it to the scum.
2) I don't know much about the PRs, and I'm taking this opportunity to confuse the scum.
Either way I'm hurting the mafia, not the town.
3.) You are scum and you are taking this opportunity to confuse town.
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Possibly
>_<. My bad. I guess I just kind of assumed with the Chansey Avatar/Sig... I mean, all Chanseys are female, right?
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vote: Helix
Here we go, indeed.
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I'm down for a Helix claim.
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What is there to say at this point? I am a town, this is my firt game in 3 years, and that game was my first. singled out for being late (i get that part) i make a defense for my self, puts a target on me. People vote for me so i put a a "here we go" gif up, more people vote for me. It seems like the best COA would be to not do anything at all and stop posting.
so we want to hear those things, like the bolded red text in your PM and where it says "during the Night, you may be selected to kill a player" or whatever
I want to see a Helix claim myself.
unvote, Vote: Helix (L-2)
And I want kaburi to respond to what I had to say about him.
This is all academic. Helix is scum and the rest will reroll by toMorrow. I'm ending this now before we start going in circles.
Vote: Helix
Body Count: GRRRUUUUUUUUUUU
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hold on there fellas I think we stopped it at 6
****...
By my count that was a lynch.
Gerrard's Mom — 181
Wildfire — 193
Sir Karn — 228
BlackVise — 245
kaburi — 247
Tom — 254
me — 255
It's irrelevant anyway though. The discussion was getting circuitous.
Body Count: GRRRUUUUUUUUUUU
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I do not have powers since nothing stating at night was in the pm. This is my quote from the pm.
oh well, hopefully he'll flip scum.
anyway i have to go now, too busy...
I watch two episodes of Family Guy...
Helix, care to share any dying thoughts before you pass?
Since the count was at 7 at one point will i be dead when the GM comes back?
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I assume this is the post you want me to respond to, Tom. If not, point me at the right one and I'll be glad to respond.
I think I've said it a dozen times now, but this is my personality. As for not applying pressure and whatnot, I'm not comfortable being a dick to people without reason, so I'm not going to be one of those players (:cough:Karn) who goes around poking people with sticks to generate responses. I'm a scientist; my brain is analytical by nature. I need data. Day one always is very hard for me because there is no data except my own alignment for me to work off and I'm not confident enough in my own abilities to start making hypotheses without data. OTher than one fluke read in MM8 (which I mentioned above was right for the wrong reasons), I have never made a correct read.
The other relevant thing about my personality is that I'm not a confident person, especially when I'm doing something outside my comfort zone (and a game of mafia is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY outside my comfort zone). That lack of confidence coupled with my proven inability to correctly read people, means I'm never going to be the first person to jump in because I don't want to come off looking like a complete drooling idiot. It's just who I am.
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I have no idea how we are supposed to play this game but I guess we will find out
Helix, you aren't dead until TK comes back and posts your death scene, so if there's anything you want to share feel free. Sorry to have kicked off your lynch so you don't actually get to play, I was half serious but I was also looking to get info from reactions. I guess we got plenty of reactions so we'll see what we can do tomorrow.
I'd have thought this was just coincidence due to having the same timestamp, but ER's wording that he's ending it implies he knows he's hammering. Maybe I was too hasty in my earlier assessment that ER seems to be playing his town game.
On that note, Tom's reaction to the lynch seems to come from a town mindset. The whole thing looks like he genuinely miscounted and regrets making that mistake, rather than being opportunistic about making a "mistake."
Yep. No way that Tom didn't know what he was doing. And his reactions afterward look so faked. (See me in Lucian)
Tom: Did you just not read that post, or what?
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Also Helix: You referred to me as "he" a page or so ago. For the record, I'm a she.
Did we just witness a coordinated mislynch here?
And with that, Helix has been lynched
Vote Count:
Sir Karn (2) - Arnnaria, Helix
kaburi (1) - Specific
Helix (7) - Gerrard's Mom, Wildfire393, Sir Karn, BlackVise, Kaburi, Tom, ExpiredRascals
Not Voting (3) - Jay13x, Shockwave07, Teia Rabishu
I'll have a death scene soon!
Edit: I missed an unvote (Teia's on MDenham), and made sure the order for the lynch was right.
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Issue with my shooting? Please visit my helpdesk and help me learn to aim!
Known for: Cheap food, CHEAP food…
By far the largest restaurant food chain, your specialty is make it quick and make it fast. Customers rarely wait more than a minute after ordering to receive your food. However, that means you do need to cut down on time somewhere, like cooking food fresh or paying attention to detail. It may not be pretty, and it may not be pretty, but it gets the job done!
You may vote.
It looks like the reason Helix was so successful was just good business savvy. Knowing that the mafia was still out there, the night closed on Wall St. very tumultuously.
Night 1 begins now. If you have an ability, you have 72 hours to submit it! Dawn 2 will start at 10PM Pacific time on December 22. (My anniversary!)
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Kill shot: BB
Issue with my shooting? Please visit my helpdesk and help me learn to aim!
Known for: Being a boat company that builds planes, starting in Seattle
Three things have come from Seattle: Grunge, Starbucks and Boeing. Boats were profitable at the time the company was started, but now planes are the wave of the future. Sailing high in the 777-200LR, Boeing continues to push the edge of aerospace design, while maintaining a strong holding in the fleets of air transport companies.
You may vote.
During the night, you may perform the night kill.
For Day 1, you have hired a Protest Organizer. During the Night, you may target another player to prevent that player from using any abilities that night.
It is now Dawn 2 for 24 hours. NO POSTING!
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Issue with my shooting? Please visit my helpdesk and help me learn to aim!
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch. Also, because of Christmas, I will not start tracking activity until at least the 26th.
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Kill shot: BB
Issue with my shooting? Please visit my helpdesk and help me learn to aim!
I was scum yesterday, along with ER and wildfire. I'm town today.
There are 2 scum left obviously, one of them is vanilla (wildfire yesterday) and the other has a day shot role cop ability (me yesterday). They have dawn chat, day chat, night chat... all-the-time chat.
As scum in this game I know from experience that the scum are just trying to get to the next dawn alive, so that they can hopefully re-roll into town. Which - if people are still confused about how it works - is completely random for all players and all roles (although the roles within the town will stay within the town, and the roles within the scum stay within the scum). That said, we need to be on the lookout for lurkers.
Also, lets be careful about quicklynches
I role coped Specific yesterday and ER blocked Shockwave for some reason. We may or may not have attempted a NK.
Anyway, it's basically Day 1 again; everyone's role is completely randomized so interactions yesterday don't matter. This game will be all about instantaneous behavior and meta.
I'm inclined to believe Tom unless wildfire says otherwise.
And I laugh at all attempts at blockage right now!
In the meantime... Vote:Sir Karn for giving me an ability in Drury Lane as town that another town player interpreted as a Poisoner role!
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You're so detailed and give out everything else, but not that. Why?
Vote: Tom
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My revealing that information could potentially out one or more town PRs to the mafia.
Unvote, Vote: Sir Karn
How do you KNOW that EVERYONE's role is 'completely randomized'?
I'm pretty sure he would have told anyone who bothered to ask...
There are two options here:
1) I know something about the PRs, and I don't want to reveal it to the scum.
2) I don't know much about the PRs, and I'm taking this opportunity to confuse the scum.
Either way I'm hurting the mafia, not the town.
Sort of unsure of your position here. There are a couple of likely scenarios:
1) Someone successfully redirected/reflected the NK to ER (most likely)
2) ER was vigged: NK blocked by town PR (roleblock, doctor, etc)
3) ER was vigged: Mafia chose not to perform an NK
4) ???
So does it really make sense not to divulge what the scum tried to do? In the event of the likely answer "we tried to kill someone," you are only confirming that there is some sort of role that can stop the NK. You could even tell us who you tried to kill and it wouldn't really give us any more information, since even if it was that person's role who came into play, they probably don't have that role any more.
Knowing in slightly more detail what happened last night will give the town better information to judge claims in the future. Does anyone think this amount of information getting out to the current scum would be a liability?
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3.) You are scum and you are taking this opportunity to confuse town.