@Seppel: I'd rather lynch Fuquet over Rodemy, because if Fuquet flips scum, Rodemy is a safer lynch, but if Rodemy flips town, we still don't know anything about Fuquet from that.
@Seppel: that's fair, but I'm pretty torn on Rodemy, and a scum flip from Fuquet would ease that some, while a town flip from him would leave me torn. So to me, lynching Fuquet first is all upside.
I think you misunderstand. Fuquet reads as super scummy to me, and I want to lynch him for that. If he does flip scum, that furthers my reads elsewhere.
In the event that we lynch Rodemy today, I still want to lynch Fuquet regardless of flip, but if we go the other way and lynch Fuquet, his flip as town makes me want to look at all the other interaction surrounding him.
I believe Fuquet is a better lynch in every way than Rodemy currently.
Let me put it to you differently, in a way that I think makes more sense.
Seppel, you want to lynch both Rodemy and Fuquet, I want to lynch Fuquet and am not convinced on Rodemy. Can we lynch Fuquet and sort out Rodemy tomorrow with more information to go off of?
Seppel is the scum of the earth. That should be readily apparent. Not someone I'd turn a blind eye to. And I agree with Rod. This whole "lynch rodemy" campaign is nonsense.
@Seppel: I'd rather lynch Fuquet over Rodemy, because if Fuquet flips scum, Rodemy is a safer lynch, but if Rodemy flips town, we still don't know anything about Fuquet from that.
@Seppel: I'd rather lynch Fuquet over Rodemy, because if Fuquet flips scum, Rodemy is a safer lynch, but if Rodemy flips town, we still don't know anything about Fuquet from that.
What would you like to know?
Honestly I'd like to see some of your thoughts about this game so far. Up to this point, I feel like most of your posts have either been responses to others, or sheeping after them for reads and opinions. Show me some effort in trying to solve this game.
@Seppel: I'd rather lynch Fuquet over Rodemy, because if Fuquet flips scum, Rodemy is a safer lynch, but if Rodemy flips town, we still don't know anything about Fuquet from that.
What would you like to know?
Honestly I'd like to see some of your thoughts about this game so far. Up to this point, I feel like most of your posts have either been responses to others, or sheeping after them for reads and opinions. Show me some effort in trying to solve this game.
I've never played this game before. I don't know any of you. I have very little to go on other than supposed reputations. And oh yeah.. a lot of ***** throwing. Pardon me for not feeling engaged. By all means, lynch me.
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Rodemy and Fuq are voting Seppel
Hunt and Seppel are voting Rodemy
Shadow and Zomg are voting Fuq
Ophidia is voting Tordeck
Tordeck inviting Ophidia
Vaimes... Isn't voting and hasn't voted all game...?
5 to lynch.
I'm happy with hopping over to Fuq. But we need Ophidia, Tordeck, and Vaimes (hi!) to decide between Rodemy and Fuq. Otherwise we don't have enough votes for either of them.
I've never played this game before. I don't know any of you. I have very little to go on other than supposed reputations. And oh yeah.. a lot of ***** throwing. Pardon me for not feeling engaged. By all means, lynch me.
I get it, my first game had 17 people and I knew none of them. I'd encourage you to ignore meta and dive into the reasons people are doing what they are. Don't look at the how, but the why.
I feel like we have gotten nowhere. Good job scum.
But this is where we kick it into overdrive.
We start with Ophi. Quick vote on seppel. Then i vote seppel (like i always do) Then a quick unvote on seppel saying he should get a chance to get killed by maf
(ref#19)
Then Hunt with the seppel vote just saying "Yeah"
(ref #22)
Ophi is back.. defending seppel? In rvs?
Tordeck in with logical reasoning and a vote.
Hunt then posts #38. Uses the phrase "Self Concious"
Odd use of words and accusation since Shadow and ZOMG were just talking about it.
Tordeck agrees. But being OPHI being self concious wasn't Tordecks original reason for voting him, jumping on an off a wagon is. Okay i can see that. You jump on a half assed argument by hunt saying he was being self concious.
Okay so you at this point you think he is scum. But wait. Here is the kicker.
You then say I flag you for being 3rd vote on that wagon. when Hunt voted after me.
I get it. But don't you think hunts vote should be more suspicious? Ophi took it from l-3 to l-2 and hunt immidiately put it back up to l-3.
yet you go for me, who always votes seppel. My vote in rvs is useless to read and i keep it that way.
So why avoid calling out hunt?
STOP THE PRESS ZOMG CLAIMED NUETRAL AND I ******* MISSED IT.
@Oph: Being that it's a closed setup, we don't know the roles even in the game. Claiming neutral early in the game, and when he's being pretty solidly town read by several people doesn't raise any red flags for me. Granted, it is still in our best interest to not ignore his behavior, as he did just see two neutrals win in another game.
ON PAGE 2. SHOW ME WHERE ZOMG IS BEING TOWN READ IN ANY POST BEFORE THIS
fuq thought he was scummy (ref #29)
Even ****in shadow thought he was scummy in the post directly after
You and Fuq agree shortly after that yes he is suspect.
And then.. what.. shadow just.. unvotes.. in #59.
And Seppel then says he is town.
then shadow sets zomg up for a nuetral claim in #72
and bam #74 he claims. Okay.
so at this point.. ONE person said he was town.
Seppel.
So um.. Now.
unvote
vote Shadowlancerx
Hey buuuuuudddddy. Name the "several people" you were refering to when you said he was being solidly read as town please.
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Okay, Ive been really mulling this game over and we all need to talk about mechanics just a bit, even if its just about my mechanic inparticular. Iso is very.....creative... But I really need seppels answer about his Tie condition before i spill these beans
Zomg, why are you so cagey all the time! Interestingly I actually don't want to lynch you at all right now, which would worry me, except I don't feel like being worried. Unvote
Not exactly me saying "Yeah Zomg is strong town," but the fact that I didn't actually want to lynch him is indicative of his towniness to me.
Since I am a complete noob to forum mafia, how many mafs do we have?
Tordeck has been accusing people lately, so Vote Tordeck.
And no one said anything against it. So when I said "town read by several people" I'm explicitly including me, Seppel, and Oph. Also, no one said anything contradictory to Seppels post at that point, which tells me that no one who had posted had any strong objections to those reads.
I'll concede that Oph may have been referring to himself on that, but I had only read through everything once at that point, hence where my "several people" came from. Also, yeah, it's a fence post, because I'm on the fence about you, which should have already been apparent.
Rodemy, your accusations towards me and sep is really maf.
Vote Rodemy
Tell me how.
Also that is a bit omgus.
Fence post is basically saying:
He could be scum. He could be town.
Not making a decision.
Seppel is off. I said that. He is really pushing my lynch when he usually townclears me. And for what? Saying it wasn't scummy being the 3rd vote on a wagon i always vote in rvs?
You literally forgot me in a list of reads very shortly after you called me out as scum.
I explained why i thought that was scummy.
So tell me again what is "maf" about my accusations?
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Before end of day we should really talk about our picks. Well, we don't /need/ to, but I want to tie against someone. Is there anyone who I can target to tie with here?
@Oph, if you read through, I believe you can find someone to win against already.
@Everyone: Rodemy's claim aligns with what he said earlier about whether he'd rather win or lose. So I'm inclined to believe his claim and see if it's provable, assuming he doesn't just eat a bullet.
I'm gonna put this out there, I picked scissors (though that should have been guessable already) so I would love if someone else has too.
Seriously Rodemy? Youre only defense for that vote is a BS meta one? A meta that when I called you out I had no idea about and still actually dont as I have to go on is your word. Yeah I'm good with you swinging.
@Zomg and Shadow: why are you on my case, again? Is it perhaps that you two (scum) are attacking moi (town) for no other reason than to benefit the maf?
See, like that is actually good, I think that's the first post that was organically from you. Admittedly if zomg and I were scumbuddies, we wouldn't pile on you together like this, but I feel like your actually thinking about this game now. So case Seppel. Go through his posts and quote some stuff and give me your thoughts on it.
Also, talk to me about your mindset this far in the game. You dislike Seppel, but who reads as town to you and why?
See, like that is actually good, I think that's the first post that was organically from you. Admittedly if zomg and I were scumbuddies, we wouldn't pile on you together like this, but I feel like your actually thinking about this game now. So case Seppel. Go through his posts and quote some stuff and give me your thoughts on it.
Also, talk to me about your mindset this far in the game. You dislike Seppel, but who reads as town to you and why?
Well, my suspicions of Seppel were first aroused on the first page with all this talk of oh just lynch him and get it over with type of chatter. Momentarily distracted by Zomg attacking me for being new. Understandable in retrospect. You, Zomg, Ophi, and Rodemy all appear clear to me at the moment. Seppel and Tordeck currently have my attention. Hold on... hmmmmm... much to consider...
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Seppel, are you sure you want to be lynched?
@Ophidia: I can't think of, like, any time I've ever been lynched D1.
That is awful and I don't like the way you're going about trying to convince me.
In the event that we lynch Rodemy today, I still want to lynch Fuquet regardless of flip, but if we go the other way and lynch Fuquet, his flip as town makes me want to look at all the other interaction surrounding him.
I believe Fuquet is a better lynch in every way than Rodemy currently.
Seppel, you want to lynch both Rodemy and Fuquet, I want to lynch Fuquet and am not convinced on Rodemy. Can we lynch Fuquet and sort out Rodemy tomorrow with more information to go off of?
And i stand by tordeck being scum now.
And ophi seems like he is scum for that little meas up.
So either is fine with me.
Seppel is seppel and will always be seppel.
But he is super "lynch rodemy" this game.. make me question his towniness.
He can usually catch i am town quick. But a quick push this early seems off.
Me calling out hunt and tordeck as scum seems to have led to my wagon.
Although ophi could be scum too.
Hunt do you think a position on a wagon is important.
If not, why ask shadow and not tordeck who originally put that thought into motion?
Will lynch:
Tordeck
Hunt
Ophi
Fuq.
One of those are scum.
I don't buy ophi's derps. Why would you not include a person you want to lynch? It just doesn't seem like a mindset of town.
Fuq needs to explain actions better and actually post thoughts.
q
Such as?
I, on the other hand, am not scum.
There ya go.
Lynch Seppel.
What would you like to know?
Probably a good idea.
Honestly I'd like to see some of your thoughts about this game so far. Up to this point, I feel like most of your posts have either been responses to others, or sheeping after them for reads and opinions. Show me some effort in trying to solve this game.
Really though, it was a holiday weekend, Ive been busy and nothing worth commenting on has happened here so yeah
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What do you think about Rod and Sep.
I am more inclined to rod being maf, but what about you?
I've never played this game before. I don't know any of you. I have very little to go on other than supposed reputations. And oh yeah.. a lot of ***** throwing. Pardon me for not feeling engaged. By all means, lynch me.
Good on you.
We can lynch seppel too idgaf.
He is off.
unvote vote seppel
At this point everyone is mafia and i am the only town.
iso, do i win?
Okay. Votecount tonight, and you guys get until Friday at 0000 to decide a lynch due to our votecount negligence. Sorry about that, guys.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Hunt and Seppel are voting Rodemy
Shadow and Zomg are voting Fuq
Ophidia is voting Tordeck
Tordeck inviting Ophidia
Vaimes... Isn't voting and hasn't voted all game...?
5 to lynch.
I'm happy with hopping over to Fuq. But we need Ophidia, Tordeck, and Vaimes (hi!) to decide between Rodemy and Fuq. Otherwise we don't have enough votes for either of them.
I get it, my first game had 17 people and I knew none of them. I'd encourage you to ignore meta and dive into the reasons people are doing what they are. Don't look at the how, but the why.
I feel like we have gotten nowhere. Good job scum.
But this is where we kick it into overdrive.
We start with Ophi. Quick vote on seppel. Then i vote seppel (like i always do) Then a quick unvote on seppel saying he should get a chance to get killed by maf
(ref#19)
Then Hunt with the seppel vote just saying "Yeah"
(ref #22)
Ophi is back.. defending seppel? In rvs?
Tordeck in with logical reasoning and a vote.
Hunt then posts #38. Uses the phrase "Self Concious"
Odd use of words and accusation since Shadow and ZOMG were just talking about it.
Tordeck agrees. But being OPHI being self concious wasn't Tordecks original reason for voting him, jumping on an off a wagon is. Okay i can see that. You jump on a half assed argument by hunt saying he was being self concious.
Okay so you at this point you think he is scum. But wait. Here is the kicker.
You then say I flag you for being 3rd vote on that wagon. when Hunt voted after me.
I get it. But don't you think hunts vote should be more suspicious? Ophi took it from l-3 to l-2 and hunt immidiately put it back up to l-3.
yet you go for me, who always votes seppel. My vote in rvs is useless to read and i keep it that way.
So why avoid calling out hunt?
STOP THE PRESS ZOMG CLAIMED NUETRAL AND I ******* MISSED IT.
And then this
ON PAGE 2. SHOW ME WHERE ZOMG IS BEING TOWN READ IN ANY POST BEFORE THIS
fuq thought he was scummy (ref #29)
Even ****in shadow thought he was scummy in the post directly after
You and Fuq agree shortly after that yes he is suspect.
And then.. what.. shadow just.. unvotes.. in #59.
And Seppel then says he is town.
then shadow sets zomg up for a nuetral claim in #72
and bam #74 he claims. Okay.
so at this point.. ONE person said he was town.
Seppel.
So um.. Now.
unvote
vote Shadowlancerx
Hey buuuuuudddddy. Name the "several people" you were refering to when you said he was being solidly read as town please.
Not exactly me saying "Yeah Zomg is strong town," but the fact that I didn't actually want to lynch him is indicative of his towniness to me.
Then Seppel comes in with this and Oph follows with this:
And no one said anything against it. So when I said "town read by several people" I'm explicitly including me, Seppel, and Oph. Also, no one said anything contradictory to Seppels post at that point, which tells me that no one who had posted had any strong objections to those reads.
The fencest post to ever fence.
I do not include your townclear because it came out of nowhere and i don't think it influences your belief that he is nuetral.
Seppel. eh i can accept that but i've seen him switch out on his reads before.
as for Ophi.. it's hard to tell if he said that in relation to himself being on that list.
So. I don't buy it.
@zomg. I never said i don't believe your claim.
why are you so defensive?
Rodemy, your accusations towards me and sep is really maf.
Vote Rodemy
Tell me how.
Also that is a bit omgus.
Fence post is basically saying:
He could be scum. He could be town.
Not making a decision.
Seppel is off. I said that. He is really pushing my lynch when he usually townclears me. And for what? Saying it wasn't scummy being the 3rd vote on a wagon i always vote in rvs?
You literally forgot me in a list of reads very shortly after you called me out as scum.
I explained why i thought that was scummy.
So tell me again what is "maf" about my accusations?
I am town politician.
one coin to target.
win: target gets extra vote
lose: targets lynch threshhold reduced by one.
good job guys.
now i am dead.
Unvote Rodemy for the time being.
@Everyone: Rodemy's claim aligns with what he said earlier about whether he'd rather win or lose. So I'm inclined to believe his claim and see if it's provable, assuming he doesn't just eat a bullet.
I'm gonna put this out there, I picked scissors (though that should have been guessable already) so I would love if someone else has too.
Unvote Vote Rodemy
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And you still didn't answer my question.
Why me and not Hunt?
@Oph: Huh, well color me surprised.
Doesn't change my vote.
Down with Seppel.
Come to your senses, people.
Scum
Seppel
Scum
Seppel
Scum
Seppel
Scum
Seppel
Scum
Also, talk to me about your mindset this far in the game. You dislike Seppel, but who reads as town to you and why?
Zom, you have my attention as the last on the Rod Train. If Rod is town, you will seem sus to me.
Zom might have this game plan in mind before the game all along, so Shadow's statement that a claim this early would be true is kinda unsteady.
Well, my suspicions of Seppel were first aroused on the first page with all this talk of oh just lynch him and get it over with type of chatter. Momentarily distracted by Zomg attacking me for being new. Understandable in retrospect. You, Zomg, Ophi, and Rodemy all appear clear to me at the moment. Seppel and Tordeck currently have my attention. Hold on... hmmmmm... much to consider...
Fuquetlauncher (1): shadowlancerx
Seppel (2): Vaimes, Fuquetlauncher
Rodemy (4): Seppel, Huntzilla, Tordeck, zomgarcwind (L-1)
shadowlancerx (1): Rodemy
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player