Shadow, my only critique was your horrible bus vote on Zomg D1. When in doubt, it's almost always the correct choice to not vote.
(You're welcome to respond in kind; I made a LOT of mistakes this game, and I'm surprised no one caught them sooner.)
@Zomg: I also apologize for hitting you with a bus. You sounded so excited in scumchat, and then got lynched D1. Sorry!
@Rhand: You're never going to trust me again, are you?
@Hunt: I give you props, and nominate you for town MVP. In a game where practically everyone was townreading me to the extreme, you knew something was off about me. Sorry you couldn't make anyone else see it in time. (Technically, I feel like you should have won the game for the Town with your logic post at the end; it's mostly dumb luck that Shadow and I were online at the same time before Rhand and Iso unvoted.)
It was pretty bad. I think what saved me was how I've interacted with Zomg in the several other games we've played together. I have scum read/lead his lynch in most of them thus far. And he vigged me in the first game we both played (both as town)
I echo the hunt sentiment, seriously, you had me again (though for kinda the wrong reasons, I wasn't purposely avoiding you, so much as accidentally). I actually mentioned to DV in jail chat night one that I forgot you were in the game.
Sorry I was unpleasant to play with this time around; it was a bad time for me to join a Mafia game but I didn't want to see yet another game go under due to inactivity/lack of replacements. If you still wanted to talk about things, that's fine.
It's ok. I felt like you actually started enjoying yourself D3...and then Ghosting fakeclaimed and flipped town and your motivation disappeared again. :/ I was mostly sincere with my comments, but I was thinking more along the lines of "is this the new Iso?" (since I hadn't played with you for a while). Knowing that you didn't really want to play in the first place focuses your situation a lot. I'd be happy to talk things out further if you want to, but I feel like I understand where you're coming from a lot better now.
@Brin: Thanks for a very enjoyable game. As my running commentary to you hopefully communicated, I was very invested in this game. I'd like to know DV's role, of course. One-name hitlist or two?
Well done
with Iso snapvoting me in lylo, I was sure he was scum, ergo sure that my vote was safe.
I actually came online now to unvote because I just realised that the fact that Cantrip kept forgetting that shadow was "confirmed town" must mean that Cantrip was scum with shadow.
It took me this long to realise that simply because it took me this long to realize shadow wasn't town at all.
@Iso: when are we ever going to learn to stop scumreading each other when we're both town?
Well I think I thought you were town early on because our views of the game lined up but then you kept pushing the "Iso=scum" agenda and I thought I was pretty transparently town so it made me think you weren't. And you're the one that convinced me that shadow was confirmed town to begin with, despite my instincts screaming at me to lynch him after fonti flipped town prior to the last Night. I actually thought she was town based on her content but shadow being scum seemed inconceivable with your mechanical argument so I didn't pull out because I didn't think I could salvage people not wanting to lynch her off of scarbo's utter lack of anything related to playing the game, and because on the chance she was scum, I didn't want her Roleblock to interfere with the Vig shot going off.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Haha, I've had a pretty bad streak, lately. Losing my job (again), was on the way to an interview for another one, and then boom.
I appreciate the concern. No injuries, minor damage - just not money I want to be spending at this point with the whole "moving into a house this weekend" thing and just overall inconvenient.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
A “<b>A</b>nak”
B “<b>b</b>e on”
C “<b>C</b>antrip”
D “<b>D</b>_V”
E “<b>E</b>cophagy”
F “<b>F</b>ulcrum”
G “<b>G</b>hosting”
H “<b>H</b>unt”
I “<b>I</b>so”
J “<b>j</b>ump”
K “<b>K</b>itty"
L “<b>L</b>ean”
M “<b>M</b>ete0r”
N “<b>N</b>ull”
O “<b>O</b>phidia”
P “<b>p</b>osts”
Q “<b>q</b>
R “<b>R</b>hand”
S “<b>S</b>carbo”
T “<b>T</b>own”
U “<b>u</b>naligned”
V “<b>V</b>aimes”
W “<b>W</b>ell”
X “shadowlancer<b>x</b>”
Y “<b>Y</b>ou”
Z “<b>Z</b>omgarcwind”
A “<b>A</b>nak”
B “<b>b</b>e on”
C “<b>C</b>antrip”
D “<b>D</b>_V”
I figured you had something like this. And by using the player names, you ensured that they were a) in the jail chats and b) could easily be modified with bolding to communicate the player rather than the letter. Very smart. I'm still amazed at your persistence.
Votecount 5 Final
Rhand(1): Iso
Iso(3): Rhand, Cantripmancer, shadowlancerx
Iso has been lynched! They were Reaper, Town Vanilla.
The number of remaining players reach 4. And just like that, Cantripmancer(Torbjorn - Mafia Two Shot Role Cop) and shadowlancerx(Reinhardt - Mafia Jailer) lock eyes and both mow down Huntzilla(Hanzo - Town Neighborizer)/Rhand(Winston - Town Vanilla) with a combination of their ultimate abilities.
Overwatch has dissolved.
Congratulations to D_V for an early win and the mafia team(cantrip/shadow/zomg) for a come-from-behind victory!
Waiting for the game to officially end because we're polite
BTW, Idk if I ever got your/ophidia's mentor chat? Lol I forgot about it completely until looking at the player list a few days ago. Can yall link that?
The one thing I did not get is why town did not lynch Shadow for being the jailor when we already have a roleblocker.
Yah, me too. If I had been town, I would have pushed hard for it. That overlap in roles thing is crazy. I think Ghosting's fakeclaim threw everyone for a loop.
Speaking of which, this is what I sent Brin when I read Ghosting's confession:
So I want to apologize to everyone, I falseclaimed doctor to save myself from the lynch, I was fairly confident one of Huntz/Anak is scum (and I think that Huntz is scum then obviously). I assumed that scum would try to kill me thinking I'm the doctor, and since I'm just VT, I was thinking it'd be a better death than one of the many power roles we outed yesterday; after seeing so many outed I didn't want town totally out and in the end it probably worked out worse than it could've if I was just the lynch. I do think the fact we moved to Anak indicated Huntz is scum, I'm going to look at notes and we need to get night actions figured out so we know where to move forward. Obviously you guys are welcome to not believe me, but this is the truth, so I am sorry and hopefully it doesn't just end in my mislynch (although it'd be deserved).
Oh.
Oh my.
Can it...can it be? *checks calendar*
It is!!!!!
"Go shorty; it's my birthday. We gunna party like it's my birthday. And I don't give a flip cause it's my birthday!"
Are you for freakin-real??? What town falseclaims doctor there?
@Ghosting: Sorry, but as soon as Rhand started with his "no WAY setup has a watcher + doctor" tirade, you should have dropped the charade (and likely gotten lynched, but better that than what happened). I get that you honestly thought Anak was scum, but, as town, you *have* to consider the consequences of a gambit if you're wrong.
Also, this was my favorite ironic post of the game (I don't blame you for making it Iso; circumstances just made it *really* funny from my POV):
That...seems a little weighted in the town's favor. It wouldn't be if the hitman didn't want to take out a mafiate. But then again, scum won, so maybe it's close to balanced after all.
Shadow, my only critique was your horrible bus vote on Zomg D1. When in doubt, it's almost always the correct choice to not vote.
(You're welcome to respond in kind; I made a LOT of mistakes this game, and I'm surprised no one caught them sooner.)
@Zomg: I also apologize for hitting you with a bus. You sounded so excited in scumchat, and then got lynched D1. Sorry!
@Rhand: You're never going to trust me again, are you?
@Hunt: I give you props, and nominate you for town MVP. In a game where practically everyone was townreading me to the extreme, you knew something was off about me. Sorry you couldn't make anyone else see it in time. (Technically, I feel like you should have won the game for the Town with your logic post at the end; it's mostly dumb luck that Shadow and I were online at the same time before Rhand and Iso unvoted.)
Thank you Cantrip, I'm sad it was too little too late.
I'm with Rhand though, took us way too long to see Shadow as scum.
I echo the hunt sentiment, seriously, you had me again (though for kinda the wrong reasons, I wasn't purposely avoiding you, so much as accidentally). I actually mentioned to DV in jail chat night one that I forgot you were in the game.
I was purposely under the radar in the early game as to allow my Hood to remain confidential.
@Meteor: With regards to your post in spec chat, I don't think a single person in this game could point at you and say your play was bad. I'm sorry that it's your last game though. Hope to see you on the flip side.
@Meteor: With regards to your post in spec chat, I don't think a single person in this game could point at you and say your play was bad. I'm sorry that it's your last game though. Hope to see you on the flip side.
Thanks friend, keep doing what you do - I'll make sure to check out your future games.
You played even better than in Bare Bones and Unreliable Cops in this game, IMO. And that horrible posting restriction, wow. Congrats on the win!
@Cantrip - You have an incredible gift of playing townie. The fact that you were so 'in character' that you told me not to shoot in the last night, just shows how strong of a player you are. You deserve the win, congrats.
@Iso - The hardest point for me was seeing you suffer so much knowing that I'm holding information that might help you figure out the game, and then later asking me to vig you. Iso, they say if you change you place your chance your luck, so congrats on the new place and stay positive, the luck should change.
@Huntzilla - Sorry if I tunneled on you too much and made the game unenjoyable for you. Maybe if I wouldn't you would have caught the mafia team on time.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Yeah absolutely terrible play on my part, really don't know what I was thinking but hopefully it isn't representative of my usual play. My apologies though town!
Cantrip, great job as scum, I never expected you at all.
Same to Shadow, I wish I had kept my initial suspicion, but by the end I was convinced you were the town of the lot.
Huntz, if I'm reading correctly and this is your last game, it's been great playing with you, wishing you the best man.
<b>Shadow kills Meteor</b> (don't lock this in yet)
Haha, free, I'm FREE!!! Seriously, Brin, flavorful as it is, this posting restriction in scum chat is awful! Like, maybe it should have been something like notes I could write and post every 20 min or so with 120 characters. Either way, I think it was an insanely creative way to structure my role whilst also making want to dig my own eyes out with a grapefruit spoon. It seems to have worked out though. About 95% of my posting is done from mobile, which means I have notes on my phone where I write my posts and then copy paste them into the game. For this, I have a note that's an alphabet, and I copy paste each letter into another note to order the words, then copy paste the whole thing. It's an ordeal.
(Love you though Brin, really have loved playing my role)
I thought it could be interesting to see how you crafted your messages in jail chats to form your messages.
@Brin: Thanks for a very enjoyable game. As my running commentary to you hopefully communicated, I was very invested in this game. I'd like to know DV's role, of course. One-name hitlist or two?
DV had to NK rodemy and help participate in the lynch of zomg. So it can be very tricky to pull off (only one shot for NK) and if everyone kept their names to themselves then... yea. I figured it would be reasonable to assume gambits with names would get him lynched but then zomg started claiming stuff up the wazoo too.
That...seems a little weighted in the town's favor. It wouldn't be if the hitman didn't want to take out a mafiate. But then again, scum won, so maybe it's close to balanced after all.
I'm confident it was pretty close to balanced (many vig shots could reduce town numbers real quick)
There's one thing I forgot to change in my notes before I sent out the roles. I was going to make one final adjustment to make the Watcher only be allowed to use his ability on Odd-Nights. I think that would have made it a bit more balanced. The other thing that wasn't integrated was a hidden ability that zomg would unlock on the first night. He would function as the runner for shadow. (Shadow would be able to communicate normally with his members during the night) but since he died from the lynch they never got that.
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It was pretty bad. I think what saved me was how I've interacted with Zomg in the several other games we've played together. I have scum read/lead his lynch in most of them thus far. And he vigged me in the first game we both played (both as town)
@Brin: Thanks for a very enjoyable game. As my running commentary to you hopefully communicated, I was very invested in this game. I'd like to know DV's role, of course. One-name hitlist or two?
Also the spec chat
Neighbor
Well I think I thought you were town early on because our views of the game lined up but then you kept pushing the "Iso=scum" agenda and I thought I was pretty transparently town so it made me think you weren't. And you're the one that convinced me that shadow was confirmed town to begin with, despite my instincts screaming at me to lynch him after fonti flipped town prior to the last Night. I actually thought she was town based on her content but shadow being scum seemed inconceivable with your mechanical argument so I didn't pull out because I didn't think I could salvage people not wanting to lynch her off of scarbo's utter lack of anything related to playing the game, and because on the chance she was scum, I didn't want her Roleblock to interfere with the Vig shot going off.
Yeah, I got in a car accident this morning, and actually came to check the thread after I got home.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I appreciate the concern. No injuries, minor damage - just not money I want to be spending at this point with the whole "moving into a house this weekend" thing and just overall inconvenient.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
A “<b>A</b>nak”
B “<b>b</b>e on”
C “<b>C</b>antrip”
D “<b>D</b>_V”
E “<b>E</b>cophagy”
F “<b>F</b>ulcrum”
G “<b>G</b>hosting”
H “<b>H</b>unt”
I “<b>I</b>so”
J “<b>j</b>ump”
K “<b>K</b>itty"
L “<b>L</b>ean”
M “<b>M</b>ete0r”
N “<b>N</b>ull”
O “<b>O</b>phidia”
P “<b>p</b>osts”
Q “<b>q</b>
R “<b>R</b>hand”
S “<b>S</b>carbo”
T “<b>T</b>own”
U “<b>u</b>naligned”
V “<b>V</b>aimes”
W “<b>W</b>ell”
X “shadowlancer<b>x</b>”
Y “<b>Y</b>ou”
Z “<b>Z</b>omgarcwind”
“<b>Yeah</b>”
“<b>No!</b>”
“<b>You</b>”
Rhand(1): Iso
Iso(3): Rhand, Cantripmancer, shadowlancerx
Iso has been lynched! They were Reaper, Town Vanilla.
The number of remaining players reach 4. And just like that, Cantripmancer(Torbjorn - Mafia Two Shot Role Cop) and shadowlancerx(Reinhardt - Mafia Jailer) lock eyes and both mow down Huntzilla(Hanzo - Town Neighborizer)/Rhand(Winston - Town Vanilla) with a combination of their ultimate abilities.
Overwatch has dissolved.
Congratulations to D_V for an early win and the mafia team(cantrip/shadow/zomg) for a come-from-behind victory!
Waiting for the game to officially end because we're polite
Mafia Chat: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/cuggXuUYSnAy6
Jail chats are linked in mafia chat (night 1 was a big influence on this game)
Neighborhood Chat: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/KVF6XakvknjL
More after I take my test tomorrow but I wanted yall to start talking
Most anything else I want to say involves capital letters and swearing.
We were going to do that
Speaking of which, this is what I sent Brin when I read Ghosting's confession: @Ghosting: Sorry, but as soon as Rhand started with his "no WAY setup has a watcher + doctor" tirade, you should have dropped the charade (and likely gotten lynched, but better that than what happened). I get that you honestly thought Anak was scum, but, as town, you *have* to consider the consequences of a gambit if you're wrong.
Also, this was my favorite ironic post of the game (I don't blame you for making it Iso; circumstances just made it *really* funny from my POV): @Brin: So this setup was:
2-shot Vig, Watcher, Roleblocker, Neighborizer, 6x VT
vs.
Jailer, 2-shot Rolecop, Goon
vs.
Hitman with VT and Goon on his list?
That...seems a little weighted in the town's favor. It wouldn't be if the hitman didn't want to take out a mafiate. But then again, scum won, so maybe it's close to balanced after all.
Also, DV, we weren't trying to set you up as scum that got blocked so much as me being town protective
I'm with Rhand though, took us way too long to see Shadow as scum.
Good job scum team!
Thanks friend, keep doing what you do - I'll make sure to check out your future games.
You played even better than in Bare Bones and Unreliable Cops in this game, IMO. And that horrible posting restriction, wow. Congrats on the win!
@Cantrip - You have an incredible gift of playing townie. The fact that you were so 'in character' that you told me not to shoot in the last night, just shows how strong of a player you are. You deserve the win, congrats.
@Iso - The hardest point for me was seeing you suffer so much knowing that I'm holding information that might help you figure out the game, and then later asking me to vig you. Iso, they say if you change you place your chance your luck, so congrats on the new place and stay positive, the luck should change.
@Huntzilla - Sorry if I tunneled on you too much and made the game unenjoyable for you. Maybe if I wouldn't you would have caught the mafia team on time.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Cantrip, great job as scum, I never expected you at all.
Same to Shadow, I wish I had kept my initial suspicion, but by the end I was convinced you were the town of the lot.
Huntz, if I'm reading correctly and this is your last game, it's been great playing with you, wishing you the best man.
Mafia Stats 2016-2017:
Town: 1-0 | Scum: 2-0 | Neutral: 1-1
I'm confident it was pretty close to balanced (many vig shots could reduce town numbers real quick)
There's one thing I forgot to change in my notes before I sent out the roles. I was going to make one final adjustment to make the Watcher only be allowed to use his ability on Odd-Nights. I think that would have made it a bit more balanced. The other thing that wasn't integrated was a hidden ability that zomg would unlock on the first night. He would function as the runner for shadow. (Shadow would be able to communicate normally with his members during the night) but since he died from the lynch they never got that.