Also I want your opinion on tom with the perspective of having played with him using gimmicks before. I think the only good feelings I have towards his slot are derived from the fact that it's a gimmick and not his content. And rereading him I still don't see what he was pointing to in standing against the Nobue lynch.
@Osie can you point to the parts where I'm waffling and what you mean by why the fourth? I don't understand your question. The only one that looks a bit waffly is Blues. My reads on Rhand and Omnom are pretty firm.
Okay, so I looked back at that wagon overnight since there is probably scum on it.
Rhand starts it, does most of the work, and was first on the wagon. I like 79 in particular. He's one of the few people trying who is appearing to actively attempt to solve the game. Probably town.
I join second so that's town too.
Omnom is on third and is probably town for that claim. I can't look past that right now.
Vaimes joins in 107 and it's a pretty flimsy vote. Vaimes hasn't done much this game. But neither has just about anyone expect Rhand and Omnom (kind of). It's a weakish vote, but I like it's tone and his admitting it's weak. Needs to do more today and needs pressure until then.
Okay.
Vaimes; the fourth vote.
Most say third is scummy.
But you veer to the fourth player.
Dunno.
Pressure.
It's not quite there.
You leave your bases free.
Do you have no confidence, friend?
Or what?
mmmmmmmm
Surely the 3rd vote isn't any scummier than the 4th? That just can' be a thing. Also the vote I'd always heard was scummy was the second and not the third. But the more important point is I see Omnom as town for his D1 claim. I just don't think that comes from new to this forum scum.
As for the lack of pressure. Yeah, that's true, but I do lack confidence this game. We have so few posts to work with that everything feels like a hunch to me and I'm really struggling to make firm reads (minus on Rhand and Omnom who I'm pretty sure are just town). There are things that jump out, but I really like patterns of behavior to work with and there just hasn't been enough happening. It's been better toDay but it's just now starting to be an okay level of activity and one of the slots hasn't even posted toDay.
I'm town. Rhand is probably town for the way he played D1. I liked him driving the activity and he basically single handidly made the lynch happen. Omnom is town for the above. So that means I just have to sort out you, Vaimes, Blues, and tom and first order of business is reading tom in the invitational to get a better feel for his gimmicking.
Regarding Tom... the whole gimmick posting he's doing bugs me, because he's able to avoid providing any real opinions, and cannot elaborate on his opinions effectively due to the 'post restriction' that he's under. It's left to us to try and decipher the meaning of whatever quotes he puts forth - and then, if his posting does result in a mislynch, he can try to claim that it's because we didn't interpret the quotes he posted properly. His posting pattern makes me think he's scum as well, given that he's backed Nobue the entire time (or perhaps vice-versa, since he did vote before Nobue), but I am far less certain because I can't tell what he's really thinking - again, because he's masking his thoughts behind that gimmick.
Nothing is happening. Why is the order of votes relevant here? What about the following votes made you more suspicious of Vaimes? I can't follow your logic there at all.
Nothing is happening. Why is the order of votes relevant here? What about the following votes made you more suspicious of Vaimes? I can't follow your logic there at all.
Suspicious Vaimes did seem
Since he was logical
For Eclipse partnering.
That was my thought.
Order of votes does not
Have to be relevant.
Your logic on Omnom
Bothered me thought.
Very dismissive there
And now defensive here.
Towards one you thought scummy.
What can I say?
Coordination as
Scum can be difficult.
Maybe Tom is right and
You are scum too.
Still I am not convinced
That I have seen all yet.
So I desire to
Hear from Blues' flip.
Also I'd like to see
More of Vaimes tonally
Cause their town tones and scum
Actions don't match.
That somewhat bothers me,
So I am quite wary
Of Vaimes's and your posts.
Though not the worst.
Nice OMGUS, by the way.
That doesn't help your case.
Folding at slight pressure
Ain't great at all.
(I am male, BTW, and am entirely uncertain where any opinion to the contrary came from. On the other hand, I work in a call center, and am quite used to people mistaking my gender, so... meh.)
@Grape: One of my big concerns with you is not that you made the random vote on Arcwind. It's that you did so when we were already out of RVS, and when you had just mentioned getting scum vibes off of Tom - you opted to make a completely random vote instead of going for the person you said you suspected as scum.
As for Omnom, I'm certainly not townreading him - I still feel that claim of his is suspicious, but he's been pretty quiet, so I don't have much more to base a read off of yet. However, to say that this play is overwhelmingly town is something that I can't agree with.
@Vaimes: Seriously, when did I get a sex change, and how is it I'm only now learning of this fact? (Really, when did you get the idea that I'm female, when as far as I can recall I've never clarified my gender here - nor had any real confusion over it?)
More importantly, you mentioned in #148 that you found a Thing that makes you disinterested in lynching me. I find myself exceptionally curious as to what this Thing is, and how you found it.
@Osie: This gimmick? This I like. I can understand the points you're making without any issues, but it still gives your posts some more personality. That said, regarding some of your concerns:
#143, you say that 'it's like he pretends he's himself'. Clearly, you're thinking that I'm scum trying to force myself to maintain the normal posting patterns I'd have as town. But I'm not really doing anything different from what I've done in the other game I've played here. Which makes sense, given that I'm town both here and there.
As for fearmongering, I'm not trying to do so. My issues with Tom's posts are as I've clearly stated - there just isn't enough content there for me to really get anything relevant from them, and it honestly is not a fun gimmick for me to play against. I do better with more to analyze and try to find patterns with than I do short statements. And my concerns with Grape have already been laid out - I'm not going to go into further detail there. If you decide that I'm the best lynch, I'm fine with it, so long as you then look very closely at Grape. I don't feel I'd be the best lynch (and I would prefer not to die, thank you), but so long as my death helps the town it's all good.
And yes, I'm okay in tempest land - thank you for your concern!
If you take requests,
More haiku would be quite nice.
Poetry is hard.
Nothing is happening. Why is the order of votes relevant here? What about the following votes made you more suspicious of Vaimes? I can't follow your logic there at all.
Suspicious Vaimes did seem
Since he was logical
For Eclipse partnering.
That was my thought.
...
Also I'd like to see
More of Vaimes tonally
Cause their town tones and scum
Actions don't match.
As for what to do here, I don't like the lack of information from Tom and the current pile on Blues. Not getting a great read on Grapefruit either. Not familiar with the meta, but I don't think the third vote is especially telling. You're putting the pressure to a fever point, not essentially spelling doom - you'll need at least one more town vote. I don't feel that good about his habits on calling out 'confirmed' town and backing them. That seems like a bluff to garner support from the town, which reciprocates itself. Do feel pretty good about Rhand though.
Vote: Grapefruit. I do agree with Osie's point there. Still don't get Blue pile. Don't feel good about Tom. Could go there instead. We should give Grape time to defend himself. I'm not interested in more senseless killings. (Though, I could go...)
(I'm going to be gone for Saturday-Sunday, so I should get this out of the way now.)
Blue’s started the wagon and was prooobably? scum’s designated mislynch.
It’s kind of hard for me to see Omnom putting his PR partner at L-1 without warning everyone (in case of an accidental hammer), then immediately jumping on tom for placing what he knows will be a correct vote.
tom hammered Grape, which /should/ mean something. But unfortunately I could definitely see him doing that if he thinks he can dodge the lynch down the line.
Page 1-2: tom's interaction with Grape is great. Unless tom is into early bussing, I think he's cleared there. I doubt omnom is scum with how the nobue wagon formed.
That leaves Blues and Vaimes.
I think it's Vaimes. The Grape-Vaimes interactions are all very soft on D1, and suddenly on D2 Grape votes Vaimes without any body to his reasoning.
Vaimes is now going for me, ignoring the forming of the nobue wagon completely. With the way Grape used my case to get the nobue wagon rolling, thinking I am scum can only be fake.
On top of that, the case Blues posted on Grape was way too good. That makes no sense at all for a s/s relation D2.
You make a good point re: Grape piggybacking off of your reasoning. Unfortunately, it’s not outside the realm of fakeable partner interactions.
I’m in a bit of a dilemma here, because it looks like everyone has decent reasons for why they aren’t Grape’s partner.
Please look at this game through the lens of me being town and tell me who has the best chance of flipping scum. I already went over my reasons for soft-clearing others, let me know what you think of them.
It’s kind of hard for me to see Omnom putting his PR partner at L-1 without warning everyone (in case of an accidental hammer), then immediately jumping on tom for placing what he knows will be a correct vote.
Okay, so I looked back at that wagon overnight since there is probably scum on it.
Rhand starts it, does most of the work, and was first on the wagon. I like 79 in particular. He's one of the few people trying who is appearing to actively attempt to solve the game. Probably town.
I join second so that's town too.
Omnom is on third and is probably town for that claim. I can't look past that right now.
Vaimes joins in 107 and it's a pretty flimsy vote. Vaimes hasn't done much this game. But neither has just about anyone expect Rhand and Omnom (kind of). It's a weakish vote, but I like it's tone and his admitting it's weak. Needs to do more today and needs pressure until then.
Blues is the hammer and I like him for that (it's bold to hammer when you're already getting pressure) and feels a bit TSTBS. I hate TSTBS in general, but I just like the confidence Blues had there.
Vote: Vaimes If you're so worried about nothing happening why aren't you making it happen? Who is most likely scum on the wagon? Where are you at on Omnom?
So, Nobue flipped town after all - it's a shame that he didn't attempt to actually put forth a defense, instead just arguing that the points being made against him didn't exist. Is it that common of a play for people to just try and counter arguments with 'no, you don't really have a case' here? Because just from my experience so far, I'm noticing that it seems to be a trend (and in particular it seems to lead frequently to day 1 mislynches).
And Tom is still tunneled on me. The biggest issue is that I can't actually get a read on him because of that BS posting gimmick, so I can't be sure whether it's tunneled town or scum focusing on me for a lynch - if Nobue had flipped scum, I'd be throwing a vote on him now, but with Nobue flipping town, I'm not as certain. I'd ask him to detail his reasons for voting me, but I'd just get more green phrases that I'd have to try and actually peg meaning to as opposed to a real answer. I'll keep an eye on his voting patterns, but for now I'm going to just assume tunneled!town and move on.
Vaimes has provided very little in the way of actual information - the only thing he's done that's noteworthy here is his vote for Nobue.
I thought Rhand's first few posts were off but the example game(s?) I was thinking of are ongoing so oops. I do actually like his "Nobue is too happy at a bad response."
Aside from that, everything in this game besides Omnom's claim is forgettable. Literally everything.
Unvote, vote Nobue
L-1.
If anyone asks, I'm voting because I'm bored, deadline is close (and it doesn't look like people are using that time proactively), and Nobue isn't a townread.
The bolded section is his explanations for the vote - he provided three reasons for his vote. One of them (that the deadline was close and it didn't seem like people were using the time effectively, so he wanted to get a vote in) is somewhat understandable as a reason to make a vote. That he was bored is not a good reason to vote for a person, but I'm taking this as NAI since it's a bad reason to vote someone as either town or scum (barring the initial RVS, at least). But he said that Nobue was not a townread for him, when there was no mention of Nobue from him prior (in fact, his only prior comments on other players were regarding his vote on Rhand, and a one-line comment on Omnom). So that really is coming out of nowhere, and seems as though he's jumping on a bandwagon here.
I want more from Vaimes at this point. I also want to see our quieter players, such as Omnom and Zomg, to add their input, but Vaimes is the biggest one I want to hear from at the moment. That said...
Vote: Vaimes
I'll probably do a more in-depth reread on Grape in particular tonight after work, as I'm pretty sure either he or Tom have the highest post count, and I'm not even going to bother trying to decipher Tom's greentext at this point (though I'll gladly discuss anything he likes if he is willing to drop the greentext quote posting and talk to us normally).
Also, @Grapefruit21: What does TSTBS mean, exactly? Not an acronym I'm familiar with.
Grapefruit's, on the other hand, worries me a bit.
Obviously, you've got the first bit of RVS stuff. You then get him bringing up Tom's vote jumping as a possible scumtell in #35 - and he mentions again in #45 that he's getting scum vibes from Tom. And yet he votes for Arcwind in #46. At this point, we're essentially out of RVS, and the wagon on me is already ongoing, but in #50, he justifies the Arcwind vote as another RVS vote. This is also where his posting starts to concern me - not just with the RVS vote, but with the comment preceding it.
I'm not feeling the blues train right this second and liked Nobue's last post. Arcwind is a ReRVS basically.
The bolded seems innocuous enough, until you see him jumping to my defense in #63 and #75. And then, in #80, he hops on Nobue's wagon - based not on his own opinions, but on Rhand's read, and uses that to get the Nobue wagon really rolling. And drawing heat off of me in the process.
It's a pretty good attempt at pocketing me. Very subtle, very understated. Even as far in as #101, he's jumping to my defense, while his posts really aren't supportive of anyone else except Rhand throughout day 1.
Moving to day 2, he starts with the vote analysis - still throwing all of his support behind Rhand, giving Omnom a free pass based on the earlier claim, calling Vaimes out as scum for his vote. And - surprise! - defending me for the hammering vote.
I still want to hear from Vaimes, as well as others who aren't posting much... but based on the rereads here, I think it's pretty clear who should be looked at - if you do decide to lynch me first, keep this in mind when I flip town.
You make a good point re: Grape piggybacking off of your reasoning. Unfortunately, it’s not outside the realm of fakeable partner interactions.
I’m in a bit of a dilemma here, because it looks like everyone has decent reasons for why they aren’t Grape’s partner.
Please look at this game through the lens of me being town and tell me who has the best chance of flipping scum. I already went over my reasons for soft-clearing others, let me know what you think of them.
Why call me leftover if you agree there is a reason why I'm probably not Vaimes' buddy?
The reason for Blues/Grape was Grape's behavior on the nobue wagon for Grape and meta for blues. Blues is a lot less present / wallposting than I have seen him before and I've only seen him as town.
Sometimes I V/LA without saying so because the prod range is so long.
I would have voted Grape over Blues (and said as much at the top of this page), dunno if I would have come around to scumreading someone else had I been here.
The Grape wagon is a little weird in that I think he could have been saved? I need to look at time stamps later, because I don’t know offhand how long he sat at L-2 or L-1.
@Rhand: Yes, I'm posting less frequently and less wall-of-text style than I did in Maelstrom. Honestly, maintaining that was just taking too much of my time now that things have picked up at work (I don't have time between calls where I can sit down, read, and put together posts). I'll probably be stick with my current habit of posting, just to make things easier on myself.
Regarding the state of things so far:
Tom's voting me up again - it's interesting to note that his votes have consisted of the following:
RVS votes
Day 1 vote on me
Day 2 vote on me
Last-minute change to hammer Grapefruit
Day 3 vote on me
He's been consistently on me, except for his sudden move to hammer Grapefruit. From what I can tell, he hasn't given any reasoning for the swap to Grapefruit - though again, the gimmick posting hurts here because it makes me want to avoid his posts altogether, so I may be missing something of substance. And Osie has proven that a gimmick doesn't necessarily equate to scum. My gut tells me that I should be pushing him as scum, though, and that the sudden shift he made in his vote to quickhammer Grapefruit - despite it being an objectively correct decision - seems off to me.
Vote: tomsloger
That being said, I'll still be doing some in-depth rereads over the next few days, and seeing what I get from everyone else.
I also want to remind everyone that there are no scum PRs left, according to the grid - we've either got a town Doc, or BG/1-Shot Vig combo. Worth keeping in mind if we need to get claims from people.
I'm not trying to make it a thing. It just sort of ends up being a thing when I think "okay, the Grape wagon happened, and players x y and z were all involved; then there's Rhand."
Page 1-2: tom's interaction with Grape is great. Unless tom is into early bussing, I think he's cleared there. I doubt omnom is scum with how the nobue wagon formed.
That leaves Blues and Vaimes.
Which interactions specifically?
Pushing on Grape early in the game when he was ~mostly townread can be an easy way to Look Busy.
Omnomnominath has been prodded.
That is all.
In it to win it.You don't make smalltalk in backroom meetings
Dipping a toe in.
Watchu talking bout, Willis?
Surely the 3rd vote isn't any scummier than the 4th? That just can' be a thing. Also the vote I'd always heard was scummy was the second and not the third. But the more important point is I see Omnom as town for his D1 claim. I just don't think that comes from new to this forum scum.
As for the lack of pressure. Yeah, that's true, but I do lack confidence this game. We have so few posts to work with that everything feels like a hunch to me and I'm really struggling to make firm reads (minus on Rhand and Omnom who I'm pretty sure are just town). There are things that jump out, but I really like patterns of behavior to work with and there just hasn't been enough happening. It's been better toDay but it's just now starting to be an okay level of activity and one of the slots hasn't even posted toDay.
I'm town. Rhand is probably town for the way he played D1. I liked him driving the activity and he basically single handidly made the lynch happen. Omnom is town for the above. So that means I just have to sort out you, Vaimes, Blues, and tom and first order of business is reading tom in the invitational to get a better feel for his gimmicking.
History repeating:
Nothing is happening. Why is the order of votes relevant here? What about the following votes made you more suspicious of Vaimes? I can't follow your logic there at all.
Suspicious Vaimes did seem
Since he was logical
For Eclipse partnering.
That was my thought.
Order of votes does not
Have to be relevant.
Your logic on Omnom
Bothered me thought.
Very dismissive there
And now defensive here.
Towards one you thought scummy.
What can I say?
Coordination as
Scum can be difficult.
Maybe Tom is right and
You are scum too.
Still I am not convinced
That I have seen all yet.
So I desire to
Hear from Blues' flip.
Also I'd like to see
More of Vaimes tonally
Cause their town tones and scum
Actions don't match.
That somewhat bothers me,
So I am quite wary
Of Vaimes's and your posts.
Though not the worst.
Nice OMGUS, by the way.
That doesn't help your case.
Folding at slight pressure
Ain't great at all.
*looks down*
When did I become a girl, exactly?
(I am male, BTW, and am entirely uncertain where any opinion to the contrary came from. On the other hand, I work in a call center, and am quite used to people mistaking my gender, so... meh.)
@Grape: One of my big concerns with you is not that you made the random vote on Arcwind. It's that you did so when we were already out of RVS, and when you had just mentioned getting scum vibes off of Tom - you opted to make a completely random vote instead of going for the person you said you suspected as scum.
As for Omnom, I'm certainly not townreading him - I still feel that claim of his is suspicious, but he's been pretty quiet, so I don't have much more to base a read off of yet. However, to say that this play is overwhelmingly town is something that I can't agree with.
@Vaimes: Seriously, when did I get a sex change, and how is it I'm only now learning of this fact? (Really, when did you get the idea that I'm female, when as far as I can recall I've never clarified my gender here - nor had any real confusion over it?)
More importantly, you mentioned in #148 that you found a Thing that makes you disinterested in lynching me. I find myself exceptionally curious as to what this Thing is, and how you found it.
@Osie: This gimmick? This I like. I can understand the points you're making without any issues, but it still gives your posts some more personality. That said, regarding some of your concerns:
#143, you say that 'it's like he pretends he's himself'. Clearly, you're thinking that I'm scum trying to force myself to maintain the normal posting patterns I'd have as town. But I'm not really doing anything different from what I've done in the other game I've played here. Which makes sense, given that I'm town both here and there.
As for fearmongering, I'm not trying to do so. My issues with Tom's posts are as I've clearly stated - there just isn't enough content there for me to really get anything relevant from them, and it honestly is not a fun gimmick for me to play against. I do better with more to analyze and try to find patterns with than I do short statements. And my concerns with Grape have already been laid out - I'm not going to go into further detail there. If you decide that I'm the best lynch, I'm fine with it, so long as you then look very closely at Grape. I don't feel I'd be the best lynch (and I would prefer not to die, thank you), but so long as my death helps the town it's all good.
And yes, I'm okay in tempest land - thank you for your concern!
If you take requests,
More haiku would be quite nice.
Poetry is hard.
BluesEclipse: tomsloger, osieorb18 (L-2)
Grapefruit21: BluesEclipse (L-3)
Omnomnominath: (L-4)
osieorb18: Grapefruit21(L-4)
Rhand: (L-4)
tomsloger: (L-4)
Vaimes: (L-4)
Not Voting:
Omnomnominath, Rhand, Vaimes
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
Deadline is 26 September 2017.
Omnomnominath has received a follow-up prod, 24 hours until replacement
As for what to do here, I don't like the lack of information from Tom and the current pile on Blues. Not getting a great read on Grapefruit either. Not familiar with the meta, but I don't think the third vote is especially telling. You're putting the pressure to a fever point, not essentially spelling doom - you'll need at least one more town vote. I don't feel that good about his habits on calling out 'confirmed' town and backing them. That seems like a bluff to garner support from the town, which reciprocates itself. Do feel pretty good about Rhand though.
My Trades
I also started to not like.
At least not enough.
I gotta Unvote
But I'm not sure of my thoughts.
I guess Vote: Grapefruit.
Let's see conviction
From everybody in this game.
We have till Tuesday.
Blues, this is shameless,
But if you want more Haiku,
It'll come up soon.
Towards Vaimes and Omnom
Step up and vote for Grapefruit
Rather than shading.
Tom, well, Grapefruit is
Concerning me more than either
Blues or Vaimes right now.
Blues is still second
My townleans, I'm unhappy.
Mostly still there, though.
Still, I haven't missed much, which is not good. Post more please
a n y w a y
(I'm going to be gone for Saturday-Sunday, so I should get this out of the way now.)
My Trades
there once was a man from Nantucket...
Vote Tom
I really, really don't like that. Way too opportunistic to me. Unless it's too late.
My Trades
BluesEclipse: (L-4)
Grapefruit21: BluesEclipse, osieorb18, Omnomnominath, tomsloger (L-0)
Omnomnominath: (L-4)
osieorb18: Grapefruit21(L-4)
Rhand: (L-4)
tomsloger: (L-4)
Vaimes: (L-4)
Not Voting:
Rhand, Vaimes
With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.
It is now Night 2. Night actions are due within 48 hours.
Day 3 Begins!
Votecount:
Not Voting:
BluesEclipse, Omnomnominath, Rhand, tomsloger, Vaimes
With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.
Deadline is 3 October 2017.
I’m leaning Rhand.
Blue’s started the wagon and was prooobably? scum’s designated mislynch.
It’s kind of hard for me to see Omnom putting his PR partner at L-1 without warning everyone (in case of an accidental hammer), then immediately jumping on tom for placing what he knows will be a correct vote.
tom hammered Grape, which /should/ mean something. But unfortunately I could definitely see him doing that if he thinks he can dodge the lynch down the line.
But Rhand is kind of just leftover
I'm back to full activity now.
I'm gonna take a look at Grape interactions.
That leaves Blues and Vaimes.
Vaimes is now going for me, ignoring the forming of the nobue wagon completely. With the way Grape used my case to get the nobue wagon rolling, thinking I am scum can only be fake.
On top of that, the case Blues posted on Grape was way too good. That makes no sense at all for a s/s relation D2.
vote: Vaimes
You make a good point re: Grape piggybacking off of your reasoning. Unfortunately, it’s not outside the realm of fakeable partner interactions.
I’m in a bit of a dilemma here, because it looks like everyone has decent reasons for why they aren’t Grape’s partner.
Please look at this game through the lens of me being town and tell me who has the best chance of flipping scum. I already went over my reasons for soft-clearing others, let me know what you think of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
vote blueseclipse
Why call me leftover if you agree there is a reason why I'm probably not Vaimes' buddy?
The reason for Blues/Grape was Grape's behavior on the nobue wagon for Grape and meta for blues. Blues is a lot less present / wallposting than I have seen him before and I've only seen him as town.
If you are not scum, Blues would get my vote.
Do you think the situation called for a hardcore bus there?
Literally every other person was involved in a scum lynch, and I can’t really see any votes that look bussy, so they all look a little better.
Well I wasn't around when Grape was lynched or I would've been involved too.
Why were you not involved?
Sometimes I V/LA without saying so because the prod range is so long.
I would have voted Grape over Blues (and said as much at the top of this page), dunno if I would have come around to scumreading someone else had I been here.
The Grape wagon is a little weird in that I think he could have been saved? I need to look at time stamps later, because I don’t know offhand how long he sat at L-2 or L-1.
unvote
Not so convinced anymore.
Regarding the state of things so far:
Tom's voting me up again - it's interesting to note that his votes have consisted of the following:
RVS votes
Day 1 vote on me
Day 2 vote on me
Last-minute change to hammer Grapefruit
Day 3 vote on me
He's been consistently on me, except for his sudden move to hammer Grapefruit. From what I can tell, he hasn't given any reasoning for the swap to Grapefruit - though again, the gimmick posting hurts here because it makes me want to avoid his posts altogether, so I may be missing something of substance. And Osie has proven that a gimmick doesn't necessarily equate to scum. My gut tells me that I should be pushing him as scum, though, and that the sudden shift he made in his vote to quickhammer Grapefruit - despite it being an objectively correct decision - seems off to me.
Vote: tomsloger
That being said, I'll still be doing some in-depth rereads over the next few days, and seeing what I get from everyone else.
I also want to remind everyone that there are no scum PRs left, according to the grid - we've either got a town Doc, or BG/1-Shot Vig combo. Worth keeping in mind if we need to get claims from people.
If that makes sense.
---
tom, did you ever say why you rando-sniped Grape?
Pushing on Grape early in the game when he was ~mostly townread can be an easy way to Look Busy.
This. I love that vote.
BluesEclipse: tomsloger (L-2)
Omnomnominath: (L-3)
Rhand: (L-3)
tomsloger: BluesEclipse (L-2)
Vaimes: (L-3)
Not Voting:
Omnomnominath, Rhand, Vaimes
With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.
Deadline is 3 October 2017.
randomness is clumpy
im a smooth operator
We literally just had a scum lynch. Does anyone care?
Vote Blues
Maybe having someone at L-1 will encourage some activity.
BluesEclipse: tomsloger, Vaimes (L-1)
Omnomnominath: (L-3)
Rhand: (L-3)
tomsloger: BluesEclipse (L-2)
Vaimes: (L-3)
Not Voting:
Omnomnominath, Rhand
With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.
Deadline is 3 October 2017.