@Rodemy: I was drunk and half falling asleep while I posted the last post. I didn't mean to insult you.
My point was that it took me and other players a ton of posts to explain a simple concept to you that was obvious if you read my posts. The post about me using "fancy" numbers also kinda pissed me off.
@shadow: The post in question (I'm on phone and can't quote) added nothing of value and told others not to claim if they got redirected. Almost everyone should realise why it's a bad idea, but you said it to appear useful. As an aside scum are the ones who get furious for getting caught for wrong reasons. Town don't really care.
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Joeterry is very appeasing on this journey. Which... may sound strange if you've not played with him before...
He remains abrasive as ever. Just seeing and reacting. That's NAI.
But going deeper. Where often he can abrade and get something out of it. The background thinking. Here, it's replaced with the wheedling, the smoothing over, the clarifications.
"I was just joking"
"That's not what I meant"
This joe is more concerned that people townread him than with getting ***** done.
@Rodemy: I was drunk and half falling asleep while I posted the last post. I didn't mean to insult you.
My point was that it took me and other players a ton of posts to explain a simple concept to you that was obvious if you read my posts. The post about me using "fancy" numbers also kinda pissed me off.
@shadow: The post in question (I'm on phone and can't quote) added nothing of value and told others not to claim if they got redirected. Almost everyone should realise why it's a bad idea, but you said it to appear useful. As an aside scum are the ones who get furious for getting caught for wrong reasons. Town don't really care.
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The "fancy numbers" thing is an allusion to using math is pretty much a scumtell.
Also, please remind me what the simple concept you are talking about was. Again, i feel like you are trying to discredit me and my reads and i don't see this as very townlike.
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The "fancy numbers" thing is an allusion to using math is pretty much a scumtell.
I'm kinda tempted to just stop talking to you. Can you support this claim? Do you even understand why this is completely irrational?
Also, please remind me what the simple concept you are talking about was. Again, i feel like you are trying to discredit me and my reads and i don't see this as very townlike.
The simple concept was the fact that I was calling the guy who was going to be killed by scum, town and you thought I was saying AE will flip town.
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The "fancy numbers" thing is an allusion to using math is pretty much a scumtell.
I'm kinda tempted to just stop talking to you. Can you support this claim? Do you even understand why this is completely irrational?
Also, please remind me what the simple concept you are talking about was. Again, i feel like you are trying to discredit me and my reads and i don't see this as very townlike.
The simple concept was the fact that I was calling the guy who was going to be killed by scum, town and you thought I was saying AE will flip town.
I.. I actually can.
Shadow did it as scum in bare bones.
Seppel did it in Big Red Button.
It's a way to seem town by seeming to put in effort and sounding smart, when in reality this game doesn't need statistics . Ask other people, i am not he only one with this theory. Again, stop trying to make me into someone who shouldn't be listened to. I am not your enemy (unless you are scum. then run.)
By suggesting things like "I am tempted to stop talking to you" you put out a non cooperative vibe, very anti town. I am merely stating why i think you are scum and providing some evidence into the matter.
I am not going to get into the discussion again. It sounded like you knew what his flip would be. End of story. Stop getting all defensive over it.
@ Shadow can you explain the math thing a little better? I know you know what i am talking about.
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I get what you mean about numbers now, but you explained it poorly.
It's usually called information instead of analysis where scum try to appear useful by posting information without analysing claims. It's not the numbers themselves, it's the way people use them.
I agree completely with dropping this matter. I'm sorry I was an ass.
I really want to hear more from the lurkers.
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I, too, have been scum with Joe. We won even.
And yes I agree he's... solving... here.
But the crux of it is not the meta, but the concern with appearing town rather than just doing what he does.
Theres no reason I even need to address this right now but I will anyway. I shift my meta as scum and intentionally making mimic some aspects (see the early list I did in prison block which was done 100% to mimic when I did it as town when hydraing with grape), but I’m not scum this game so it doesn’t really matter. I hate being scum and tend to have more fun being town. I blew my load on prison block and am a bit burnt out. So you get laid back, just cruising having fun Town Terry this game. I hope you enjoy.
@vezo: talk to me about what we learn from the dbs lynch
Just gonna start there. Whether scum or neutral: I give no cares. This guy was given a set of instructions yesterday to ride on this ship. No hammer... he hovered on one until the hammer vote was there... I hammered, he didn't do anything. His contribution past defending his neutral claim all the way up to poor Barbosa's demise... So: just wanna say... DBS also... exactly who she claimed. A magical merchant could totally be a one shot doc if you consider that she may have had several abilities including like... some 1-shot magic item that protected someone from death.
Let's step onto the second point. Davey Jones.... I mean... got tons of stories on him... but let's keep this one mainstream. In the Pirates of the Caribbean movies... what does he do? He steals and sales with the Souls of the Dead.. (Stealing Souls) and controls the Kraken. Just flavor wise there it feels like it should be considered...
Also: Told myself if I survived the night I was gonna do this: Hi. I'm Batgut - the town Swashbuckler and loudmouth. Normally able to be kinda immune at night because I get into loud bar fights and can only be targeted by the person who I target. Kinda neat skill, right? Okay... so funny story about that. The yesterday I shot off more than my mouth... a cannon in fact... and haven't got the skill to fight I once did. Put simply: I lost my night actions because of the cannon shot posts from Day 1 that people were pointing out. Now I'm not sure if I was targeted or if it was just story related, but Iso decided I wasn't gonna have those abilities any more.
Now that that's all out of the way... Can we string up this useless dead weight today or what? *Eyes Azrael* Literally don't care if he's neutral or scum... the scurvy devil ain't nuthin but chum and dead weight. Whether he himself is the killer or just aiding him by existing - he certainly isn't welcome on the ship. He does nuthin. He brings nuthin.
Whoops. EBWODP: (Think I did that acronym right) - Subtract the word "The" before the word Yesterday in there. Started a sentence and changed it up in post, missed the word "The" until it went up. Herp derp... .... pssst... lynch the useless guy...
@shadow: The post in question (I'm on phone and can't quote) added nothing of value and told others not to claim if they got redirected. Almost everyone should realise why it's a bad idea, but you said it to appear useful. As an aside scum are the ones who get furious for getting caught for wrong reasons. Town don't really care.
I said it because several people started referencing it, meaning it was clear that something major happened, and enough people who hadn’t said something might not have thought about the ramifications of speaking up.
As far as your other point...yes? By definition a townie that’s “caught” is always for the wrong reasons, but I’m not really sure why this is relevant unless you are accusing me of being cftwr?
On the other hand, i don't think he was conspiring with dawning. And making him walk the plank would all but garauntee we only get one the first two days.
Which isn't terrible in no flip but not amazing.
So just so that I have it on record: Do you actively believe that Dawning and I are dichotomized? As in, do you actively believe we both can’t be town?
Wait, shadow, loudmouth is usually a passive night ability, yeah?
So if he targets someone, only they can target him.
Okay, so he was hinting at giving the scum a surprise if they killed him. I see no coorelation there. On top of that, i dont recall any sort of flavor with my ability.
Loud bar fights sounds like flavor.
On top of that! He cant be targeted by anyone who he doesnt target. So would the loudmouth ability still work? And if he
This whole ability seens super fishy. But if anyone wants to claim targeting kazin, now would be a great time.
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Just gonna start there. Whether scum or neutral: I give no cares. This guy was given a set of instructions yesterday to ride on this ship. No hammer... he hovered on one until the hammer vote was there... I hammered, he didn't do anything. His contribution past defending his neutral claim all the way up to poor Barbosa's demise... So: just wanna say... DBS also... exactly who she claimed. A magical merchant could totally be a one shot doc if you consider that she may have had several abilities including like... some 1-shot magic item that protected someone from death.
Also: Told myself if I survived the night I was gonna do this: Hi. I'm Batgut - the town Swashbuckler and loudmouth. Normally able to be kinda immune at night because I get into loud bar fights and can only be targeted by the person who I target. Kinda neat skill, right? Okay... so funny story about that. The yesterday I shot off more than my mouth... a cannon in fact... and haven't got the skill to fight I once did. Put simply: I lost my night actions because of the cannon shot posts from Day 1 that people were pointing out. Now I'm not sure if I was targeted or if it was just story related, but Iso decided I wasn't gonna have those abilities any more.
Now that that's all out of the way... Can we string up this useless dead weight today or what? *Eyes Azrael* Literally don't care if he's neutral or scum... the scurvy devil ain't nuthin but chum and dead weight. Whether he himself is the killer or just aiding him by existing - he certainly isn't welcome on the ship. He does nuthin. He brings nuthin.
All speculation. More like some sort of trader. Thats a merchant for ya. Could have had multiple one shots or the means to get those shots.
I would buy a repairman being a doc. I'll have to go back and see what Rhand had to say about DBS.
Kazin you come in swinging for AZ due to you hammering. It was the perfect spot to see what AZ would do. If he did hammer that would be suicide. Why you fearmongering?
My night power was the ability to be untargettable by anyone except the one I target. Example: Azrael has the ability to steal a soul at night. I choose him as my "Night target" and as my target, he would be able to steal my soul. But Rodemy (in this example) couldn't also target me with a night kill ability. It was immunity to everyone except the person I target. Further clarification - if someone targetted me and I targetted them they got to choose two targets. So... go back to the example: Az targets me with "Steal Soul." I target him as well. Now he can choose a SECOND target and steal say... Rodemy's soul. Okay? Ability explained?
Moving onto the next bit. The Canon thing from Day one posted by Iso/Moderation: was followed immediately by a PM saying: "You have lost all Night Abilities." The comment about "wanting a surprise for Night kill" was a bluff to try to survive till today. The Swashbuckler role is considered a "Town Duelist."
All of that said: Go back to where I said the things about Az. The fact that I hammered was obnoxious, but not helpful. Yes it was death to him. But he also didn't move over to DBS earlier. Offer ANY usable intel in the day... And is now one step closer to causeing EVERYONE to lose... SO yeah... the thing that I already didn't like as a "Survivor only wins" thing, plus being useless is why I want to lynch him. The Hammering part is like... part 4 of a 4 part reasoning.
So just so that I have it on record: Do you actively believe that Dawning and I are dichotomized? As in, do you actively believe we both can’t be town?
Not sure where i would even get such information barring a CC. But I strongly believe dawning to have been scum, and in the offchance she wasn't your scum equity goes way up.
Actually... sure. I think there's exactly one scum in you/dawn 95% of the time.
But you make up ~rand of that percentage.
Antyone have one good reason why Azrael shoudln't be dealt with today?
Neutral. Doesn't help us but helps the scum. The scum should be concerned with his supposed wincon too, let them kill him at night.
No. He could be the one with the kraken, which prevents flips. Why is this not a concern of yours?
Fine if it deals with this Kraken issue and the fact that he has not scum hunted to help the town out I'll jump aboard. In the meantime I'm rereading Nancy, Nobue, Vezo.
Just gonna start there. Whether scum or neutral: I give no cares. This guy was given a set of instructions yesterday to ride on this ship. No hammer... he hovered on one until the hammer vote was there... I hammered, he didn't do anything. His contribution past defending his neutral claim all the way up to poor Barbosa's demise... So: just wanna say... DBS also... exactly who she claimed. A magical merchant could totally be a one shot doc if you consider that she may have had several abilities including like... some 1-shot magic item that protected someone from death.
Let's step onto the second point. Davey Jones.... I mean... got tons of stories on him... but let's keep this one mainstream. In the Pirates of the Caribbean movies... what does he do? He steals and sales with the Souls of the Dead.. (Stealing Souls) and controls the Kraken. Just flavor wise there it feels like it should be considered...
Also: Told myself if I survived the night I was gonna do this: Hi. I'm Batgut - the town Swashbuckler and loudmouth. Normally able to be kinda immune at night because I get into loud bar fights and can only be targeted by the person who I target. Kinda neat skill, right? Okay... so funny story about that. The yesterday I shot off more than my mouth... a cannon in fact... and haven't got the skill to fight I once did. Put simply: I lost my night actions because of the cannon shot posts from Day 1 that people were pointing out. Now I'm not sure if I was targeted or if it was just story related, but Iso decided I wasn't gonna have those abilities any more.
Now that that's all out of the way... Can we string up this useless dead weight today or what? *Eyes Azrael* Literally don't care if he's neutral or scum... the scurvy devil ain't nuthin but chum and dead weight. Whether he himself is the killer or just aiding him by existing - he certainly isn't welcome on the ship. He does nuthin. He brings nuthin.
I didn't hover on the hammer, Kazin. I forgot the game existed because I have a win condition that actively encourages me to be a non-entity, most of the time. Didn't even sign in to look. And after day resumed, I'd ordinarily post many times more today than I have. Didn't, because I feel like to actually help you guys get the scum lynched, was going to require a lot of sticking my neck out and being the driving force, because I don't think you're currently anywhere close to on-target. As for yesterday, I feel like I warned y'all plenty of times that what you were doing was an awful, awful idea, so I'm not feeling a lot of sympathy for the town at the moment. And defaulting to a neutral lynch because you can't figure out who the scum are...yeah. I've reamed plenty of towns for that awful line of play in the past, but I'll save you the lecture.
With four votes on me, my win condition now clearly obliges me to actually spell out why the people who are actually scum are actually scum, so I'll be doing that at some point. Which feels vaguely like a form of slave labor rather than a game I'm playing for fun, but that's probably just me being sulky and I'll snap out of it as soon as I remember how much I like catching scum for its own sake.
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Kazin – Slip cleared
DBS
Kami
DV/nobue
Tom
Grape
AE
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Vez
Rhand – No neg pings from record, so lean-town.
Nancy – too many nervous, fish out of water tells to get a clear read
Ae: my ability was one shot census taker. At any point one time in the game i can message iso and he will tell me how many of each alignment are alive in the game.
I definatly should have saves it for d2, but hindsight is 20/20
Az, ho× am i scum? I literally gave helpful info to town, and actively want the kraken dead.
How is this a scum mindset?
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I mean, putting rhand low when all signs point to him being the NK is a bit silly but we aren't getting alignment flips so you still have to put dead players on your readslist (like in a witchhunt)
I took it as reiterating yesterday's read's list and berating us for play he disagreed with (see lynching DBS), but I'm really not sure it matters given he's almost certainly locked in as neutral.
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So just so that I have it on record: Do you actively believe that Dawning and I are dichotomized? As in, do you actively believe we both can’t be town?
Not sure where i would even get such information barring a CC. But I strongly believe dawning to have been scum, and in the offchance she wasn't your scum equity goes way up.
Actually... sure. I think there's exactly one scum in you/dawn 95% of the time.
But you make up ~rand of that percentage.
Okay, justify this. Specifically what makes it impossible for us to both be town?
(As an aside, this conversation even happening is beyond frustrating, because I’m not even sure it’s going to be relevant.)
I explained it in the post. We aren't getting flips so I want to kill people who aren't contributing since I don't have strong scum reads.
My point was that it took me and other players a ton of posts to explain a simple concept to you that was obvious if you read my posts. The post about me using "fancy" numbers also kinda pissed me off.
@shadow: The post in question (I'm on phone and can't quote) added nothing of value and told others not to claim if they got redirected. Almost everyone should realise why it's a bad idea, but you said it to appear useful. As an aside scum are the ones who get furious for getting caught for wrong reasons. Town don't really care.
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Az can die he's almost never *town* here
but it feels like the iceberg is still pretty far away
Joeterry is very appeasing on this journey. Which... may sound strange if you've not played with him before...
He remains abrasive as ever. Just seeing and reacting. That's NAI.
But going deeper. Where often he can abrade and get something out of it. The background thinking. Here, it's replaced with the wheedling, the smoothing over, the clarifications.
"I was just joking"
"That's not what I meant"
This joe is more concerned that people townread him than with getting ***** done.
Townjoe is a steamliner. This is a tugboat.
He tried to appear town by doing huge posts filled with infornation instead of analysis while trying not to annoy anyone.
Here he actively engaged different people and tried to scum hunt.
I don't know his meta that well, but I can't see him changing so much from one game.
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And yes I agree he's... solving... here.
But the crux of it is not the meta, but the concern with appearing town rather than just doing what he does.
The "fancy numbers" thing is an allusion to using math is pretty much a scumtell.
Also, please remind me what the simple concept you are talking about was. Again, i feel like you are trying to discredit me and my reads and i don't see this as very townlike.
HEY. THERE YA GO. My b. Musta missed this. Carry on. Don't get angry.
I'm kinda tempted to just stop talking to you. Can you support this claim? Do you even understand why this is completely irrational?
The simple concept was the fact that I was calling the guy who was going to be killed by scum, town and you thought I was saying AE will flip town.
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Azrael (3): Rodemy, D_V, vezokpiraka
TheRealStinkyJoeTerry (1): tomsloger
NancyDrew (1): Grapefruit21
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The deadline is set for March 7th at 0000 hours EST.
I.. I actually can.
Shadow did it as scum in bare bones.
Seppel did it in Big Red Button.
It's a way to seem town by seeming to put in effort and sounding smart, when in reality this game doesn't need statistics . Ask other people, i am not he only one with this theory. Again, stop trying to make me into someone who shouldn't be listened to. I am not your enemy (unless you are scum. then run.)
By suggesting things like "I am tempted to stop talking to you" you put out a non cooperative vibe, very anti town. I am merely stating why i think you are scum and providing some evidence into the matter.
I am not going to get into the discussion again. It sounded like you knew what his flip would be. End of story. Stop getting all defensive over it.
@ Shadow can you explain the math thing a little better? I know you know what i am talking about.
It's usually called information instead of analysis where scum try to appear useful by posting information without analysing claims. It's not the numbers themselves, it's the way people use them.
I agree completely with dropping this matter. I'm sorry I was an ass.
I really want to hear more from the lurkers.
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@vezo: talk to me about what we learn from the dbs lynch
I'll be on it when I came back home on Tuesday.
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Just gonna start there. Whether scum or neutral: I give no cares. This guy was given a set of instructions yesterday to ride on this ship. No hammer... he hovered on one until the hammer vote was there... I hammered, he didn't do anything. His contribution past defending his neutral claim all the way up to poor Barbosa's demise... So: just wanna say... DBS also... exactly who she claimed. A magical merchant could totally be a one shot doc if you consider that she may have had several abilities including like... some 1-shot magic item that protected someone from death.
Let's step onto the second point. Davey Jones.... I mean... got tons of stories on him... but let's keep this one mainstream. In the Pirates of the Caribbean movies... what does he do? He steals and sales with the Souls of the Dead.. (Stealing Souls) and controls the Kraken. Just flavor wise there it feels like it should be considered...
Also: Told myself if I survived the night I was gonna do this: Hi. I'm Batgut - the town Swashbuckler and loudmouth. Normally able to be kinda immune at night because I get into loud bar fights and can only be targeted by the person who I target. Kinda neat skill, right? Okay... so funny story about that. The yesterday I shot off more than my mouth... a cannon in fact... and haven't got the skill to fight I once did. Put simply: I lost my night actions because of the cannon shot posts from Day 1 that people were pointing out. Now I'm not sure if I was targeted or if it was just story related, but Iso decided I wasn't gonna have those abilities any more.
Now that that's all out of the way... Can we string up this useless dead weight today or what? *Eyes Azrael* Literally don't care if he's neutral or scum... the scurvy devil ain't nuthin but chum and dead weight. Whether he himself is the killer or just aiding him by existing - he certainly isn't welcome on the ship. He does nuthin. He brings nuthin.
Um.
Hmm.
Scum?
If you are a loudmouth, then whoever targets you would be revealed. So if someone targeted you, we'd know.
As far as your other point...yes? By definition a townie that’s “caught” is always for the wrong reasons, but I’m not really sure why this is relevant unless you are accusing me of being cftwr? So just so that I have it on record: Do you actively believe that Dawning and I are dichotomized? As in, do you actively believe we both can’t be town?
So if he targets someone, only they can target him.
Okay, so he was hinting at giving the scum a surprise if they killed him. I see no coorelation there. On top of that, i dont recall any sort of flavor with my ability.
Loud bar fights sounds like flavor.
On top of that! He cant be targeted by anyone who he doesnt target. So would the loudmouth ability still work? And if he
This whole ability seens super fishy. But if anyone wants to claim targeting kazin, now would be a great time.
All speculation. More like some sort of trader. Thats a merchant for ya. Could have had multiple one shots or the means to get those shots.
I would buy a repairman being a doc. I'll have to go back and see what Rhand had to say about DBS.
Kazin you come in swinging for AZ due to you hammering. It was the perfect spot to see what AZ would do. If he did hammer that would be suicide. Why you fearmongering?
Also what was setting the connon off all about?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Time for some research
Well there you go.
I don't want to deal with AZ today.
How many neutrals/non town/scum roles you guys think we have?
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Neutral. Doesn't help us but helps the scum. The scum should be concerned with his supposed wincon too, let them kill him at night.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
We had 10 town.. 1 nuet.. 3 scum
Did you miss that part?
Also we should kill az. Like toDay.
No. He could be the one with the kraken, which prevents flips. Why is this not a concern of yours?
My night power was the ability to be untargettable by anyone except the one I target. Example: Azrael has the ability to steal a soul at night. I choose him as my "Night target" and as my target, he would be able to steal my soul. But Rodemy (in this example) couldn't also target me with a night kill ability. It was immunity to everyone except the person I target. Further clarification - if someone targetted me and I targetted them they got to choose two targets. So... go back to the example: Az targets me with "Steal Soul." I target him as well. Now he can choose a SECOND target and steal say... Rodemy's soul. Okay? Ability explained?
Moving onto the next bit. The Canon thing from Day one posted by Iso/Moderation: was followed immediately by a PM saying: "You have lost all Night Abilities." The comment about "wanting a surprise for Night kill" was a bluff to try to survive till today. The Swashbuckler role is considered a "Town Duelist."
All of that said: Go back to where I said the things about Az. The fact that I hammered was obnoxious, but not helpful. Yes it was death to him. But he also didn't move over to DBS earlier. Offer ANY usable intel in the day... And is now one step closer to causeing EVERYONE to lose... SO yeah... the thing that I already didn't like as a "Survivor only wins" thing, plus being useless is why I want to lynch him. The Hammering part is like... part 4 of a 4 part reasoning.
Not sure where i would even get such information barring a CC. But I strongly believe dawning to have been scum, and in the offchance she wasn't your scum equity goes way up.
Actually... sure. I think there's exactly one scum in you/dawn 95% of the time.
But you make up ~rand of that percentage.
Yea missed it, was it just speculation?
Fine if it deals with this Kraken issue and the fact that he has not scum hunted to help the town out I'll jump aboard. In the meantime I'm rereading Nancy, Nobue, Vezo.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I didn't hover on the hammer, Kazin. I forgot the game existed because I have a win condition that actively encourages me to be a non-entity, most of the time. Didn't even sign in to look. And after day resumed, I'd ordinarily post many times more today than I have. Didn't, because I feel like to actually help you guys get the scum lynched, was going to require a lot of sticking my neck out and being the driving force, because I don't think you're currently anywhere close to on-target. As for yesterday, I feel like I warned y'all plenty of times that what you were doing was an awful, awful idea, so I'm not feeling a lot of sympathy for the town at the moment. And defaulting to a neutral lynch because you can't figure out who the scum are...yeah. I've reamed plenty of towns for that awful line of play in the past, but I'll save you the lecture.
With four votes on me, my win condition now clearly obliges me to actually spell out why the people who are actually scum are actually scum, so I'll be doing that at some point. Which feels vaguely like a form of slave labor rather than a game I'm playing for fun, but that's probably just me being sulky and I'll snap out of it as soon as I remember how much I like catching scum for its own sake.
Also, reminder:
Az
Kazin – Slip cleared
DBS
Kami
DV/nobue
Tom
Grape
AE
Shrug:
Vez
Rhand – No neg pings from record, so lean-town.
Nancy – too many nervous, fish out of water tells to get a clear read
Scum:
JoeTerry
Shadow
Rodemy
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I definatly should have saves it for d2, but hindsight is 20/20
Az, ho× am i scum? I literally gave helpful info to town, and actively want the kraken dead.
How is this a scum mindset?
Rhand is dead.
@Iso @Bur Have you heard from NancyDrew? I feel like her only post in two weeks was apologizing for being away. Is anything happening there?
Sure.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I can answer that, he claimed the flying dutchman in his first post.
@Nancy coming back with a naked vote isn't exactly inspiring. Why shadow?
What if the knowledge doesn't come? Do you just sail listlessly?
Why are you answering other peoples questions?
If you’re town you need to make a miraculous turn around right now and actually do something that shows it.
(As an aside, this conversation even happening is beyond frustrating, because I’m not even sure it’s going to be relevant.)