Last/killjoy scum others are varrying degrees of town.
I'm still down to lynch last. Nothing convinced me otherwise.
nothing convinced you? or are u just not reading? either way I will keep trying to figure out this game, and this post screams distancing from the thread, so u are back down to neutral/scum, i wanted to town you read because of that omgus, but jesus...
"varying degrees of town" lmao... im being scum read by someone who says this? please put me into L1 so I can hammer myself haha
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rewriting the above comment cause the grammar is poor even for me
"That answer in understandable, now can you tell me why you worded the question to Wuffles in the way you did, rather than asking him if he thought of us were scum?
It's semantically equivalent. I didn't have any particular reasoning behind the word choice.
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Kami: What did you think of the Last/Vezok RVS conversation?
Most likely is town/town. Least likely is scum/scum. The two scum/town options are a tossup with each other, maybe slightly in favor of Last scum / Vezok town? #103 is not great.
And what do you think of Wuffles?
Leaning scum. We dislike his posts. The way his aggression manifests.
My second head is doing a good job of restraining some of my impulses.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Kame
I would never hammer myself, and I guess my anger comes from the fact, that I hate when certain people scum read me, Vezok being one of them, because he omgus's me and never takes the time to explain it, hes still town honestly, but so ******* blinded by this ***** tunnel...
and then hes gunna tell me that killjoy is my scum partner, because he started an rvs train on me, and pulled off? if anything hes scum a lone, not scum with me... like **** man
if hes gunna make 1 post every 24 hours, just to say im still scum for no reason, then I will get irritated with his play, cause he aint doing *****...
Kami: What did you think of the Last/Vezok RVS conversation?
Most likely is town/town. Least likely is scum/scum. The two scum/town options are a tossup with each other, maybe slightly in favor of Last scum / Vezok town? #103 is not great.
@Lastwhisper: What I'm seeing right now is a world where you are in a town mindset. I can see a couple of times where you've said something that I'd probably disagree with, but as a whole, there is a lot of townie thoughts coming from you. So, I want to look elsewhere.
Killjoy... Eh, I found him town-lean neutral for now. Both town and scum would consider having a 'ghost vote' on last, though scum would do it to gain some town!cred, as they could hope that a town would hammer which might get the hammering town lynched. These kinds of things aren't really alignment indicative. Actually, his analysis in his post 99 helped me to put him a bit higher for town than scum.
I've put KamikazeKazin in that group as I'm liking some of there thoughts, but I'd like to see more from them.
Wuffles_II: Although I'm townreading last, I disagree that Wuffles is definitely scum. I just feel like last picked up on a stupid logistics joke and started pushing it as though it was extremely indicative. I'd be interested in seeing more content from Wuffles to help with this read.
tom: Being honest, I dislike his thoughts in #72 ("no, that's not quite right
I do nothing to make myself unreadable.
I'm just naturally inscrutable, partially because I don't actually care about winning (like, winning is fun. But it's not the only way), partially because i view mafia as more performance art than anything else so I'm playing a part regardless") and thinking last is scum (Who is my towniest read). And then "If I was scum this game would be on lock already that's hella lynchable people" <-- That's just scummy. 'If I were X' arguments should never be trusted. It's an appeal that scum tend to make.
Vezok: ISO . I really am not liking vezok at all. The tunnel on last, the lack of openness. These are signs of being uncooperative and this is not a good thing as town. If vezok's not scum, he's too focused on last. But, I think he is scum.
vote:Vezokpiraka
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rewriting the above comment cause the grammar is poor even for me
"That answer in understandable, now can you tell me why you worded the question to Wuffles in the way you did, rather than asking him if he thought of us were scum?
It's semantically equivalent. I didn't have any particular reasoning behind the word choice.
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Kami: What did you think of the Last/Vezok RVS conversation?
Most likely is town/town. Least likely is scum/scum. The two scum/town options are a tossup with each other, maybe slightly in favor of Last scum / Vezok town? #103 is not great.
And what do you think of Wuffles?
Leaning scum. We dislike his posts. The way his aggression manifests.
My second head is doing a good job of restraining some of my impulses.
- Kami
You obviously disagree with my wuffles read then. Why would scum!Wuffles make that post?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Riku
to me tho, Vez's play is so bad, that I kinda want to town read him, and being uncooperative isnt enough for me to scum read someone a lone in a game this size, but his tunnel on my is infuriating, and I doubt hes even reading the game... if he ever gets lynched and flips scum, ill be salty at his, "sorry your bad at scum" post, I mean, he would be playing his role, but wow...
Tom
it would be ironic, and posts like the ones above make me think you are scum... so please go back to being painfully neutral (p.s. it is kinda scummy, which is why I said, your lucky its you)
Killjoy
I see why you think those posts sound like town!wuffles, and I like ur reasoning behind it, but something about the statement, "Why would X do this as scum", just irritates me to no end, and its unneeded wine...
Vez
I know you like ur ***** tunnels, but remove me from the equation, and tell me who could be scum, if you cant see anything else, then i'll be ok with your vote on me, but if your not gunna play the game, then dont keep telling me I am scum, when im actually trying to figure this game out
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Rumanshi - 6/8, 2120 EST
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rereading post #23 and its so bad.......................................... like holy ****
honestly I'd be contradicting my statement to killjoy if I didnt vote Vez, because im using the same arguement to defend someone voting me...
vote: Vez
Wuffles
Still feeling that Tom is scum? any new thoughts?
Kami
are you gunna vote, you said Wuffles is scum and both your heads agree, so why not place your vote?
I fail to see how honestly responding about my personality/playstyle is scummy
You can explain after ruma
theres nothing to explain, I wasnt talking about ur play style, just one specific line "If I was scum this game would be on lock already that's hella lynchable people"
probably shouldve made that clear
but i did also comment to your original post, "your lucky it was you that said this", which already shouldve indicated that I hated that post, and wouldve scum read anyone else if they said it
None of that was scummy. It wasn't townie either, but certainly not scummy.
Back that ***** up yo (he said, with no hint of irony)
@LW yup, I'm happy with my vote for now. This post is weird, like, y...
Yes, it is hella scummy? You're trying to set up an alignment dichotomy between LW and I in that post which sets up a second mislynch if wisp turns up town, and there's no reason to suspect (at this point, but also especially at the point where you almost succeeded in speedlynching him) that he is scum. At the point you tried to lynch him you had a 2/7 chance of being right. Period. Wisp didn't even have a chance to give you reason to want him dead IT WAS TEN POSTS IN WHY ARE WE DEBATING HOW RIDICULOUSLY SCUMMY TRYING FOR A SPEEDLYNCH TEN POSTS INTO DAY 1 IS. SRSLY.
Like I expect this from Vezok, he's a player that has always led with his gut and not his head, even way back when I was last playing mafia on mtgs eight years ago when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and him going all in like this feels like +town to me.
Okay, peace out, apologies for needing a prod, MODGOD Osie, the man eating shark.
Wuffles
tbh, again, I would advocate for ur lynch too once if I got lynched... and Vez literally said he would be ok with hammering if my train was at 3 before he voted...
dont say "expect" like it means anything, eventually ull wine urself from these "expects"
and is so called gut is *****, and ur right about not using his head
all in???? hes made like 5 posts tunneling on me, thats literally it
@Last: In a world where you aren't scum, I'd imagine the scum team would in kamikazin/rumanashi/killjoy. But Rumanashi feels town this game. And Kami/Kazin is a big null for me.
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Wuffles if I thought the odds of my reads being right was less than rand they wouldn't be reads
@ruma I may have gotten lost in your formatting idk not rereading
Whatever while I can see thinking that's scummy it just isn't. I didn't know the playerlist and I looked at it and saw all ~easy lynches. Not tryna talk ***** here just an observation.
It might interest you to know I tend to struggle against easy lynches. Sometimes, as both alignments, to my detriment- getting "fooled" by obvscum as town and painting myself into a corner as scum.
But I will always prefer something spicy to something easy
@vez I seem to be missing. Especially considering you think wuffles is town and are talking about the (Still unlikely) hypothetical in which last is town
Last/vezok current guess. Last is, like, trying pretty hard to discredit his scumread but doesn't actually seem to be pushing it. Smells distancey.
Wuffles/Kami could be a thing. Call it "team let townies fight eachother"
Definitely never last/wuffles even though they're both scummy wuffles' bull***** "Tom is setting up a dichotomy" literally doesn't even consider last flipping scum lol
Kj and ruma exist I guess. Not clear but not looking like scum aorn. #noeasylynches
ur right, cause in all honesty, i want to believe vez isnt scum, but at the end of the day, i will lynch anyone i believe to be scummy to keep my self alive...
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Also I'm feeling line last got up to L-1 really quickly which is >Rand town.
He got run up by me, tom and you. Where are you going with this? Random could also happen as a wagon on scum,
It started out random, but became see. I was serious about it too for a second. Like I said to last, (if last is town) it probably means one of the people in this wagon are scum (scum would actively want to lunch last in this case).
I'm not sure which of you is most likely ATM though
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Last is scum and killjoy is too. That leaves Ruma, Kamikazin and wuffles. Wuffles is also town because of his reads. Those reads make no sense from any scum perspective. As scum, you'd push for the easiest lynches, not the hardest and the second hardest in the game. I mean, you can, but wuffles is not that type of player.
KamiKazin and Ruma are mostly absent, but I liked what I've seen from them and the setup only has two scum so.
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@LW Because your outrage felt real. And to be fair I'm not 100% on you being town; it's too early for me (or anyone IMO) to tell. I started off believing that the people trying to speedlynch should be called out as policy because I thought they were trolling; then when it became obvious that they were serious, I've constantly been fighting a sense of disbelief. Like, nah, they have to be trolling to see who else jumps on, right?
To be honest, right now I'll be super pissed if you are scum, because I really, REALLY don't want tom or vezok to be lording that one over us for the rest of the game based on a 2 in 7.
I'll get to a bit more depth when I can; Monday/Tuesday are my busiest days because I'm running a demigod scion game Monday nights and being the only one in a group of five that actually knows the 5E system on Tuesday nights in addition to working full-time. No I am not the Tuesday DM.
Last is scum and killjoy is too. That leaves Ruma, Kamikazin and wuffles. Wuffles is also town because of his reads. Those reads make no sense from any scum perspective. As scum, you'd push for the easiest lynches, not the hardest and the second hardest in the game. I mean, you can, but wuffles is not that type of player.
KamiKazin and Ruma are mostly absent, but I liked what I've seen from them and the setup only has two scum so.
Not really buying KJs wagonomics and kinda liking vezok questioning him about it
Feels even more like wuffles knows me and last are t/t though
unvote, vote wuffles
Ready to end the day, etc
Do you honestly think scum wuffles lists only you as a scum read when literally all other mislynching options are on the table? Why would he townread me and scumread you?
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Last is scum and killjoy is too. That leaves Ruma, Kamikazin and wuffles. Wuffles is also town because of his reads. Those reads make no sense from any scum perspective. As scum, you'd push for the easiest lynches, not the hardest and the second hardest in the game. I mean, you can, but wuffles is not that type of player.
KamiKazin and Ruma are mostly absent, but I liked what I've seen from them and the setup only has two scum so.
Why do you think those are the hardest lynches?
Cause I know I'm an easy lynch if people put their mind to it, Rumanashi is a pushable lynch regardless of the state of the game, last was under heavy pressure and killjoy is not that great at defending himself against a lynch.
Tom will probably fight tooth and nail regardless of alignment against a lynch and you are two people, where one of them is a fairly competent player that can deflect a lynch when it needs be.
With the exception of Last, who is more game related, all the other opinions are meta related.
Simply put, I don't think Wuffles does this balsy play of going after tom on the first day.
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Not really buying KJs wagonomics and kinda liking vezok questioning him about it
Feels even more like wuffles knows me and last are t/t though
unvote, vote wuffles
Ready to end the day, etc
Do you honestly think scum wuffles lists only you as a scum read when literally all other mislynching options are on the table? Why would he townread me and scumread you?
why would that be surprising exactly?
I'm, like, the lowest accountability scumread possible.
I'm still down to lynch last. Nothing convinced me otherwise.
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"varying degrees of town" lmao... im being scum read by someone who says this? please put me into L1 so I can hammer myself haha
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Most likely is town/town. Least likely is scum/scum. The two scum/town options are a tossup with each other, maybe slightly in favor of Last scum / Vezok town? #103 is not great.
Leaning scum. We dislike his posts. The way his aggression manifests.
My second head is doing a good job of restraining some of my impulses.
- Kami
I would never hammer myself, and I guess my anger comes from the fact, that I hate when certain people scum read me, Vezok being one of them, because he omgus's me and never takes the time to explain it, hes still town honestly, but so ******* blinded by this ***** tunnel...
and then hes gunna tell me that killjoy is my scum partner, because he started an rvs train on me, and pulled off? if anything hes scum a lone, not scum with me... like **** man
if hes gunna make 1 post every 24 hours, just to say im still scum for no reason, then I will get irritated with his play, cause he aint doing *****...
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@Lastwhisper: What I'm seeing right now is a world where you are in a town mindset. I can see a couple of times where you've said something that I'd probably disagree with, but as a whole, there is a lot of townie thoughts coming from you. So, I want to look elsewhere.
Killjoy... Eh, I found him town-lean neutral for now. Both town and scum would consider having a 'ghost vote' on last, though scum would do it to gain some town!cred, as they could hope that a town would hammer which might get the hammering town lynched. These kinds of things aren't really alignment indicative. Actually, his analysis in his post 99 helped me to put him a bit higher for town than scum.
I've put KamikazeKazin in that group as I'm liking some of there thoughts, but I'd like to see more from them.
Wuffles_II: Although I'm townreading last, I disagree that Wuffles is definitely scum. I just feel like last picked up on a stupid logistics joke and started pushing it as though it was extremely indicative. I'd be interested in seeing more content from Wuffles to help with this read.
tom: Being honest, I dislike his thoughts in #72 ("no, that's not quite right
I do nothing to make myself unreadable.
I'm just naturally inscrutable, partially because I don't actually care about winning (like, winning is fun. But it's not the only way), partially because i view mafia as more performance art than anything else so I'm playing a part regardless") and thinking last is scum (Who is my towniest read). And then "If I was scum this game would be on lock already that's hella lynchable people" <-- That's just scummy. 'If I were X' arguments should never be trusted. It's an appeal that scum tend to make.
Vezok: ISO . I really am not liking vezok at all. The tunnel on last, the lack of openness. These are signs of being uncooperative and this is not a good thing as town. If vezok's not scum, he's too focused on last. But, I think he is scum.
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None of that was scummy. It wasn't townie either, but certainly not scummy.
Back that ***** up yo (he said, with no hint of irony)
to me tho, Vez's play is so bad, that I kinda want to town read him, and being uncooperative isnt enough for me to scum read someone a lone in a game this size, but his tunnel on my is infuriating, and I doubt hes even reading the game... if he ever gets lynched and flips scum, ill be salty at his, "sorry your bad at scum" post, I mean, he would be playing his role, but wow...
Tom
it would be ironic, and posts like the ones above make me think you are scum... so please go back to being painfully neutral (p.s. it is kinda scummy, which is why I said, your lucky its you)
Killjoy
I see why you think those posts sound like town!wuffles, and I like ur reasoning behind it, but something about the statement, "Why would X do this as scum", just irritates me to no end, and its unneeded wine...
Vez
I know you like ur ***** tunnels, but remove me from the equation, and tell me who could be scum, if you cant see anything else, then i'll be ok with your vote on me, but if your not gunna play the game, then dont keep telling me I am scum, when im actually trying to figure this game out
You can explain after ruma
tomsloger (1) - Wuffles_II
Wuffles_II (1) - Lastwhisper
Not Voting: KamikazeKazin, Killjoy, Rumanshi
KamikazeKazin - 6/8, 1450 EST
Killjoy - 6/8, 2147 EST
Lastwhisper - 6/8, 2256 EST
Rumanshi - 6/8, 2120 EST
tomsloger - 6/8, 2301 EST
vezokpiraka - 6/8, 1334 EST
Wuffles_II - 6/6, 2119 EST
Check done at 6/8, 2305 EST
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Day 1 Lynch Deadline is June 18th at 0900 EST
Wuffles_II has been prodded.
honestly I'd be contradicting my statement to killjoy if I didnt vote Vez, because im using the same arguement to defend someone voting me...
vote: Vez
Wuffles
Still feeling that Tom is scum? any new thoughts?
Kami
are you gunna vote, you said Wuffles is scum and both your heads agree, so why not place your vote?
"If I was scum this game would be on lock already that's hella lynchable people"
probably shouldve made that clear
but i did also comment to your original post, "your lucky it was you that said this", which already shouldve indicated that I hated that post, and wouldve scum read anyone else if they said it
Not the one ruma was talking about though
The first post was just something I disliked, not an indicator. The second part was me talking about that line, which scum do very often.
Yes, it is hella scummy? You're trying to set up an alignment dichotomy between LW and I in that post which sets up a second mislynch if wisp turns up town, and there's no reason to suspect (at this point, but also especially at the point where you almost succeeded in speedlynching him) that he is scum. At the point you tried to lynch him you had a 2/7 chance of being right. Period. Wisp didn't even have a chance to give you reason to want him dead IT WAS TEN POSTS IN WHY ARE WE DEBATING HOW RIDICULOUSLY SCUMMY TRYING FOR A SPEEDLYNCH TEN POSTS INTO DAY 1 IS. SRSLY.
Like I expect this from Vezok, he's a player that has always led with his gut and not his head, even way back when I was last playing mafia on mtgs eight years ago when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and him going all in like this feels like +town to me.
Okay, peace out, apologies for needing a prod, MODGOD Osie, the man eating shark.
tbh, again, I would advocate for ur lynch too once if I got lynched... and Vez literally said he would be ok with hammering if my train was at 3 before he voted...
dont say "expect" like it means anything, eventually ull wine urself from these "expects"
and is so called gut is *****, and ur right about not using his head
all in???? hes made like 5 posts tunneling on me, thats literally it
@Last: In a world where you aren't scum, I'd imagine the scum team would in kamikazin/rumanashi/killjoy. But Rumanashi feels town this game. And Kami/Kazin is a big null for me.
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@ruma I may have gotten lost in your formatting idk not rereading
Whatever while I can see thinking that's scummy it just isn't. I didn't know the playerlist and I looked at it and saw all ~easy lynches. Not tryna talk ***** here just an observation.
It might interest you to know I tend to struggle against easy lynches. Sometimes, as both alignments, to my detriment- getting "fooled" by obvscum as town and painting myself into a corner as scum.
But I will always prefer something spicy to something easy
@vez I seem to be missing. Especially considering you think wuffles is town and are talking about the (Still unlikely) hypothetical in which last is town
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The one where I said everyone else except last and killjoy are town for me.
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Town
KJ
Wisp
Leaning town
Rubanshi
Vezok
Neutral
Kami
Scum
Tom
Wuffles/Kami could be a thing. Call it "team let townies fight eachother"
Definitely never last/wuffles even though they're both scummy wuffles' bull***** "Tom is setting up a dichotomy" literally doesn't even consider last flipping scum lol
Kj and ruma exist I guess. Not clear but not looking like scum aorn. #noeasylynches
Still want to flip last but I'd move to wuffles
Can you explain a little bit about ur reads? even me, im curious? especially since I do believe you are the scum?
Tom
literally doesn't even consider last flipping scum lol tbh this is a really good point
Vez
Why is everyone town, but me and killjoy?
Rum
I am glad you see me in a town mindset, care to share what posts you didnt like from me tho?
Killjoy
You obviously disagree with my wuffles read then. Why would scum!Wuffles make that post?
what post are you referring to again?
Kami
are you going to respond to my post #109
6 days to go I believe, please answer my questions everyone, off to sleep
@Vezok: I require reasons for your reads. You can't really just say "everyone's town except these guys" and then not back anything up.
@Tom: talk to me about scum!Ruma? What is she doing this game?
@Last: I believe everything you need to know is in post 99.
but in actuality, My stubborness wants me to almost scum read Vez, and Tom is literally unreadable...
what do you mean by off wagon scum?
and what? Also I'm feeling line last got up to L-1 really quickly which is >Rand town.
He got run up by me, tom and you. Where are you going with this? Random could also happen as a wagon on scum,
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And I feel like you got to L-1 really quick, which would potentially indicate a scum push.
I'm not sure which of you is most likely ATM though
Last is scum and killjoy is too. That leaves Ruma, Kamikazin and wuffles. Wuffles is also town because of his reads. Those reads make no sense from any scum perspective. As scum, you'd push for the easiest lynches, not the hardest and the second hardest in the game. I mean, you can, but wuffles is not that type of player.
KamiKazin and Ruma are mostly absent, but I liked what I've seen from them and the setup only has two scum so.
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To be honest, right now I'll be super pissed if you are scum, because I really, REALLY don't want tom or vezok to be lording that one over us for the rest of the game based on a 2 in 7.
I'll get to a bit more depth when I can; Monday/Tuesday are my busiest days because I'm running a demigod scion game Monday nights and being the only one in a group of five that actually knows the 5E system on Tuesday nights in addition to working full-time. No I am not the Tuesday DM.
Feels even more like wuffles knows me and last are t/t though
unvote, vote wuffles
Ready to end the day, etc
Do you honestly think scum wuffles lists only you as a scum read when literally all other mislynching options are on the table? Why would he townread me and scumread you?
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Cause I know I'm an easy lynch if people put their mind to it, Rumanashi is a pushable lynch regardless of the state of the game, last was under heavy pressure and killjoy is not that great at defending himself against a lynch.
Tom will probably fight tooth and nail regardless of alignment against a lynch and you are two people, where one of them is a fairly competent player that can deflect a lynch when it needs be.
With the exception of Last, who is more game related, all the other opinions are meta related.
Simply put, I don't think Wuffles does this balsy play of going after tom on the first day.
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I'm, like, the lowest accountability scumread possible.
tomsloger (1) - Wuffles_II
Wuffles_II (1) - tomsloger
Not Voting: KamikazeKazin, Killjoy, Lastwhisper, Rumanshi
KamikazeKazin - 6/10, 1455 EST
Killjoy - 6/10, 1407 EST
Lastwhisper - 6/10, 1234 EST
Rumanshi - 6/8, 2331 EST
tomsloger - 6/10, 1718 EST
vezokpiraka - 6/10, 1527 EST
Wuffles_II (p) - 6/10, 1434 EST
Check done at 6/10, 1742 EST
With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Day 1 Lynch Deadline is June 18th at 0900 EST