I haven't played a game with days longer than 72 hours in somewhere in the neighborhood of 3.5 years but hopefully I have some semblance of knowing what I'm doing anyway. (For context I've been playing for ~4 years and I... never quite realized that period of time was so condensed or early before, somehow.)
I also have a chronic case of "don't know how to enter the thread without making a greeting first" but making a whole post out of "Hi." seemed a bit not environmentally appropriate.
I don't really have an alignment preference at this point.
Gemma preferring scum was... not what my impression was from the game I was in she wolfed in but I guess that was just extrapolative.
I haven't played a game with days longer than 72 hours in somewhere in the neighborhood of 3.5 years but hopefully I have some semblance of knowing what I'm doing anyway. (For context I've been playing for ~4 years and I... never quite realized that period of time was so condensed or early before, somehow.)
I also have a chronic case of "don't know how to enter the thread without making a greeting first" but making a whole post out of "Hi." seemed a bit not environmentally appropriate.
I don't really have an alignment preference at this point.
Gemma preferring scum was... not what my impression was from the game I was in she wolfed in but I guess that was just extrapolative.
Hey Lissa! It's really nice to be in a game with you again!
I vastly prefer town, lmao. Your impression by extrapolation was not wrong. Idr when I woofed against you though?
I look forward to gradually seeping into a sense of your alignment this game.
The Matrix12 in February where you were half of Creampuff and I was half of California Oranges.
Is there another time we've played together before? Because I thought that was the only one.
Lmao.
We were town in that game you goober.
Oh god
Too many hydras in that game with two-part C names.. I tend to just think of it as "we miscleared one of the hydras" and apparently something got lost somewhere
That game was weird.
I'm just gonna blame it on it being 2 am and ignore that I'm the most awake I've been all day.
Er, I wasn't answering your question there. I was agreeing with your logic, that there's no way I could be this happy as town, therefore I must be mafia.
Er, I wasn't answering your question there. I was agreeing with your logic, that there's no way I could be this happy as town, therefore I must be mafia.
Why do you think LW is town?
I think you can be happy as both alignments.
It’s your buddying and the amount of early reads you’re spewing that worry me more.
My read on LW is that he is a person in this game.
That’s funny, that’s my read on you.
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Gemma!! Why am I not confirmed town?? Also, walk me through that Rhand read, his questions seem innocuous imo.
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I think I would call this game a success if it consisted of Gemma and lissa posting back and forth all game and just overloading me with the cuteness of their avatars.
Lissa’s self awareness wrt her thread entrances pings me ever so slightly townie. Weak reasoning, but I think it’s undertoned more than it could be, she’s not using it as a crutch, only acknowledging it.
Vaimes
What is this light ping?
Why do you like Sheep?
Why are you nitpicking buddying vs pocketing?
@Vaimes: why are you not answering this?
I find myself agreeing with LW this game, which is weird
unvote
@Gemma: Have I played with you before? I think I have, but I’m not sure. Are you always this happy? And do you always buddy up to Regfan?
Hard unvote out of RVS is also >rand scum. Interaction with the hard unvote and the question to me looks like setting up a "peaceful encounter". In other words, agenda.
More importantly, these questions will generate alignment information 2.666% of the the time. Mischaracterizing my Regfan scumread as buddying is an attempt to give his questioning some manner of relevance that it entirely lacks.
You struggle to get a read on LW, but have nothing to say when I spoonfeed you his alignment. You're dead to me.
I don’t trust you.
And by not answering my questions bit just voting me instead, you’ve confirmed my gut.
vote Gemma
Also, I do think LW is town. The weirdness comes from previous experience.
This vote is fake because his suspicions were fake.
Villager Rhand: gosh, have I played with Gemma before? She sure is happy, and memeing in RVS, that's really suspicious, oh my god I knew it, she just ignored my questions and voted me, she's a wolf!
I don’t trust you.
And by not answering my questions bit just voting me instead, you’ve confirmed my gut.
I'm too happy to be town, yeah.
What about my other questions? I’m trying to get a hold on your meta.
This is an attempt to weave villager motivation into his questioning of me. If he were a villager, he wouldn't need to explain what he was doing. Because he is mafia, he feels the need to do so, for the sake of appearances.
Er, I wasn't answering your question there. I was agreeing with your logic, that there's no way I could be this happy as town, therefore I must be mafia.
Why do you think LW is town?
I think you can be happy as both alignments.
It’s your buddying and the amount of early reads you’re spewing that worry me more.
LW is probably town because of mindmeld.
Buddying didn't occur, isn't a thing this early in the game anyway, and any concern over my reads wasn't mentioned at all before now, because he's making this all up as he goes along. There is furthermore no mafia motivation for providing reads early in the game. In fact, there is a fair bit of mafia motivation for not providing reads early in the game. He hasn't talked about my mafia motivation, because he can't. I have none, and he knows it.
Mindmeld is an entirely nondescript reason to townread someone and contains no thought. Note his townread is now qualified by "probably". Mindmeld is a mafia favorite when it comes to townreading townies, because pocketing.
RE the Rhand case: I liked the Stalin is scum joke (I also think Rhand having English as a second language might be affecting you there), but other than that, gosh dang, that’s a solid case. I’m anxiously awaiting Rhand’s reply.
Response to Gemma will have to wait because I’m at 6% battery. But what she’s saying is a combo of wrong mafia theory and reaching.
@Gemma: how many mtgs games have you played?
@Shadow: It surprised me as much as it does you, but I found myself agreeing with everything he said early game. I’ll get back to you with quotes when I can use my pc.
Response to Gemma will have to wait because I’m at 6% battery. But what she’s saying is a combo of wrong mafia theory and reaching.
@Gemma: how many mtgs games have you played?
@Shadow: It surprised me as much as it does you, but I found myself agreeing with everything he said early game. I’ll get back to you with quotes when I can use my pc.
The plot thickens!
Okay thanks, I’m holding you to that.
Also, Rhand, you realize Gemma was (sort of) in Arkham right?
Gemma Vaimes, LW isn't mafia because he's reading the game in a superficial way and making assumptions about things that come from a villager mindset.
Seriously what do you mean by "in a superficial way"
The assumptions would be different if LW were mafia, as would the approach. The way that he is struggling to understand me is also town
no thats not how this works
because the only mafia motivation in what he is doing is the desire to look town, except his process is scrambled and he makes no sense
ive never really tried once to look town, I just post what I feel, so good luck reading me on that
The way that he is poking at me/shadow carries some scum motivation on the level of trying to break up two town who are townreading each other
This comes under the assumption that I believe there is any reason for you two to town read each other, theres literally nothing there, just fluff
His mindset in all of this is consistent with a paranoid townie who is not carefully reading the thread and jumping to conclusions that mafia would be more careful about jumping to in this context.
again, still wrong, ive caught up in all 3 threads, and i am never paranoid as town, how does one even be a paranoid town
you and Shadow can still be Wolf/Wolf, if anything is superficial, its the way you just town clear people and scum read people, cause there's literally nothing there
Speaking of superficial reads, Why is Nancy on her way to being scum?
Shadow
"Sort of in Arhkam" haha
and Buddying Day 1 can be a thing, and a mindmeld is not necessarily indicative of mafia
In the case of a mindmeld, either the poster can be scum, or the person he mindmelded with based on their response, or neither are scum, and are both town.
Also Rhand's mannerisms are the reason why I thought he was scum last game
Rhand
Non-Mafia related, but whats your first language?
Gemma Vaimes, LW isn't mafia because he's reading the game in a superficial way and making assumptions about things that come from a villager mindset.
Seriously what do you mean by "in a superficial way"
The assumptions would be different if LW were mafia, as would the approach. The way that he is struggling to understand me is also town
no thats not how this works
because the only mafia motivation in what he is doing is the desire to look town, except his process is scrambled and he makes no sense
ive never really tried once to look town, I just post what I feel, so good luck reading me on that
The way that he is poking at me/shadow carries some scum motivation on the level of trying to break up two town who are townreading each other
This comes under the assumption that I believe there is any reason for you two to town read each other, theres literally nothing there, just fluff
His mindset in all of this is consistent with a paranoid townie who is not carefully reading the thread and jumping to conclusions that mafia would be more careful about jumping to in this context.
again, still wrong, ive caught up in all 3 threads, and i am never paranoid as town, how does one even be a paranoid town
you and Shadow can still be Wolf/Wolf, if anything is superficial, its the way you just town clear people and scum read people, cause there's literally nothing there
Speaking of superficial reads, Why is Nancy on her way to being scum?
Shadow
"Sort of in Arhkam" haha
and Buddying Day 1 can be a thing, and a mindmeld is not necessarily indicative of mafia
In the case of a mindmeld, either the poster can be scum, or the person he mindmelded with based on their response, or neither are scum, and are both town.
Also Rhand's mannerisms are the reason why I thought he was scum last game
Rhand
Non-Mafia related, but whats your first language?
There is so much irony in this post it makes me giggle. Half of the responses/questions towards Gemma are like, proving exactly what she's saying about you to be true and it's glorious and annoying simultaneously.
She’s making sense in a way that almost pings as TMI. Her general mood has me leaning towards “probably not,” but it’s a thought.
Hmm, I don’t really recall her having a TMI issue in the games I’ve played with her before, but it’s something to think about. What are your thoughts on Rhand/gemma’s case on Rhand?
I guess my point with that was seeing if anything was bothering you about her posting. Nothing?
She’s a little too sure of things, but I’m not convinced that’s AI. Kinda falls into the TMI realm actually now that I think on it, but not so much that I’m super concerned.
I skimmed it because mobile, but the first two (lighter) points line up with mine and Gemma is leaning more towards town than not, so I don’t have a Problem with it.
Gonna have to wait a bit for me to get a better look.
but other than that, gosh dang, that’s a solid case. I’m anxiously awaiting Rhand’s reply.
Vaimes side-eyes the tone in this post
Tone reads on me are always accurate and have never failed in the past.
But for real, posts like Gemma’s remind me just how bad I am at this game even though I’d like to think I’m not. I just don’t have the fortitude to make an analytical break down this early in the game.
@Vaimes: why are you not answering this?
I find myself agreeing with LW this game, which is weird
unvote
@Gemma: Have I played with you before? I think I have, but I’m not sure. Are you always this happy? And do you always buddy up to Regfan?
Your questions are Scummy.
You shall pay for this sin with your life.
Vote: Rhand
These slots are on their way to being confirmed town: shadow
These slots are on their way to being confirmed mafia: Rhand, nancy
These slots are confirmed mafia: Regfan
FEED ME.
I don’t trust you.
And by not answering my questions bit just voting me instead, you’ve confirmed my gut.
vote Gemma
Also, I do think LW is town. The weirdness comes from previous experience.
I haven't played a game with days longer than 72 hours in somewhere in the neighborhood of 3.5 years but hopefully I have some semblance of knowing what I'm doing anyway. (For context I've been playing for ~4 years and I... never quite realized that period of time was so condensed or early before, somehow.)
I also have a chronic case of "don't know how to enter the thread without making a greeting first" but making a whole post out of "Hi." seemed a bit not environmentally appropriate.
I don't really have an alignment preference at this point.
Gemma preferring scum was... not what my impression was from the game I was in she wolfed in but I guess that was just extrapolative.
Also wait what the **** is this a thing?
There is... really not all that much that can be compared to Creature.
I'm too happy to be town, yeah.
Hey Lissa! It's really nice to be in a game with you again!
I vastly prefer town, lmao. Your impression by extrapolation was not wrong. Idr when I woofed against you though?
I look forward to gradually seeping into a sense of your alignment this game.
Okay yeah that makes much more sense.
The Matrix12 in February where you were half of Creampuff and I was half of California Oranges.
Is there another time we've played together before? Because I thought that was the only one.
Lmao.
We were town in that game you goober.
Oh god
Too many hydras in that game with two-part C names.. I tend to just think of it as "we miscleared one of the hydras" and apparently something got lost somewhere
That game was weird.
I'm just gonna blame it on it being 2 am and ignore that I'm the most awake I've been all day.
fonti is to blame for misclearing the Complex hydra. It's entirely her fault. fonti sucks and you should never listen to her reads, ever.
I have been awake for... tic toc tic toc, ~36 hours now, so I have you Trumped.
What about my other questions? I’m trying to get a hold on your meta.
Why do you think LW is town?
I think you can be happy as both alignments.
It’s your buddying and the amount of early reads you’re spewing that worry me more.
LW is probably town because of mindmeld.
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Gemma!! Why am I not confirmed town?? Also, walk me through that Rhand read, his questions seem innocuous imo.
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I think I would call this game a success if it consisted of Gemma and lissa posting back and forth all game and just overloading me with the cuteness of their avatars.
Lissa’s self awareness wrt her thread entrances pings me ever so slightly townie. Weak reasoning, but I think it’s undertoned more than it could be, she’s not using it as a crutch, only acknowledging it.
-_-
Can you go into some detail on this? I pretty much never find my thoughts calling in line with him, even if we reach a similar conclusion.
Tonally flat.
Empty RVS interaction is >rand scum.
Hard unvote out of RVS is also >rand scum. Interaction with the hard unvote and the question to me looks like setting up a "peaceful encounter". In other words, agenda.
More importantly, these questions will generate alignment information 2.666% of the the time. Mischaracterizing my Regfan scumread as buddying is an attempt to give his questioning some manner of relevance that it entirely lacks.
This vote is fake because his suspicions were fake.
Villager Rhand: gosh, have I played with Gemma before? She sure is happy, and memeing in RVS, that's really suspicious, oh my god I knew it, she just ignored my questions and voted me, she's a wolf!
If that makes sense to you, it shouldn't.
This is an attempt to weave villager motivation into his questioning of me. If he were a villager, he wouldn't need to explain what he was doing. Because he is mafia, he feels the need to do so, for the sake of appearances.
Buddying didn't occur, isn't a thing this early in the game anyway, and any concern over my reads wasn't mentioned at all before now, because he's making this all up as he goes along. There is furthermore no mafia motivation for providing reads early in the game. In fact, there is a fair bit of mafia motivation for not providing reads early in the game. He hasn't talked about my mafia motivation, because he can't. I have none, and he knows it.
Mindmeld is an entirely nondescript reason to townread someone and contains no thought. Note his townread is now qualified by "probably". Mindmeld is a mafia favorite when it comes to townreading townies, because pocketing.
Rhand is mafia.
Sheep is town, so yeah, they're not wolves together.
@Gemma: how many mtgs games have you played?
@Shadow: It surprised me as much as it does you, but I found myself agreeing with everything he said early game. I’ll get back to you with quotes when I can use my pc.
Okay thanks, I’m holding you to that.
Also, Rhand, you realize Gemma was (sort of) in Arkham right?
Light ping as in I think it’s scummy. A thread I want to tug at rather than being like “oh it’s definitely scum because xyz.”
I thought meep’s opening was genuine.
I don’t know why I said buddying, the meaning I meant to convey didn’t match the words. Mild word derp.
Vaimes, LW isn't mafia because he's reading the game in a superficial way and making assumptions about things that come from a villager mindset.
Seriously what do you mean by "in a superficial way"
The assumptions would be different if LW were mafia, as would the approach. The way that he is struggling to understand me is also town
no thats not how this works
because the only mafia motivation in what he is doing is the desire to look town, except his process is scrambled and he makes no sense
ive never really tried once to look town, I just post what I feel, so good luck reading me on that
The way that he is poking at me/shadow carries some scum motivation on the level of trying to break up two town who are townreading each other
This comes under the assumption that I believe there is any reason for you two to town read each other, theres literally nothing there, just fluff
His mindset in all of this is consistent with a paranoid townie who is not carefully reading the thread and jumping to conclusions that mafia would be more careful about jumping to in this context.
again, still wrong, ive caught up in all 3 threads, and i am never paranoid as town, how does one even be a paranoid town
you and Shadow can still be Wolf/Wolf, if anything is superficial, its the way you just town clear people and scum read people, cause there's literally nothing there
Speaking of superficial reads, Why is Nancy on her way to being scum?
Shadow
"Sort of in Arhkam" haha
and Buddying Day 1 can be a thing, and a mindmeld is not necessarily indicative of mafia
In the case of a mindmeld, either the poster can be scum, or the person he mindmelded with based on their response, or neither are scum, and are both town.
Also Rhand's mannerisms are the reason why I thought he was scum last game
Rhand
Non-Mafia related, but whats your first language?
Your alignment disappoints me.
Does your alignment disappoint you?
Can you put your feelings about Gemma into one sentence and I’ll rate how close they are to mine?
Coordination would have been a little messy.
I’ll give it a 7/10.
She’s making sense in a way that almost pings as TMI. Her general mood has me leaning towards “probably not,” but it’s a thought.
Gonna have to wait a bit for me to get a better look.
Maybe because “gosh dang” and “solid” and “anxiously waiting” sound super awkward in response to a case made on page three.
But for real, posts like Gemma’s remind me just how bad I am at this game even though I’d like to think I’m not. I just don’t have the fortitude to make an analytical break down this early in the game.
Anything else is extra.
Cases are only important for convincing people to go through a difficult lynch.
Having said that, I’m still giving you a Look.
The other non-swear words still sound forced, don’t worry, you can keep your gosh darns.