BTW, only reason I said both you + Tom were defending newcomb was cause the thread was quiet til I voted newcomb then I got a bunch of reasons against it LOL.
Like why are you acting like you just got caught? Couldn't it have been tom? HAHAHAHAHAH
Its pretty telling how they reacted, even now tom is trying really har to not read newcomb as scum its like hes trying to avoid any connections.
You made mention that you thought that there was scum between Tom and I.
Can you explain your thoughts/reasoning?
Can you also post a town/scum list?
Can you start playing the game?
Thanks.
To address your previous post and this one: I voted you for a pretty specific string of posts where you were freaking out that Tom wasn't acting in some way you assumed he would be acting in. I thought that was scummy. I read like half of that really big post and it just seemed like summarizing the game to this point which is fine, but doesn't give you an automatic town pass or anything.
I'm playing the game. I've posted and explicitly said who I've been townreading and how that's shaping how I'm viewing the game. If you have any questions, please ask them.
You made mention that you thought that there was scum between Tom and I.
Can you explain your thoughts/reasoning?
Can you also post a town/scum list?
Can you start playing the game?
Thanks.
To address your previous post and this one: I voted you for a pretty specific string of posts where you were freaking out that Tom wasn't acting in some way you assumed he would be acting in. I thought that was scummy. I read like half of that really big post and it just seemed like summarizing the game to this point which is fine, but doesn't give you an automatic town pass or anything.
I'm playing the game. I've posted and explicitly said who I've been townreading and how that's shaping how I'm viewing the game. If you have any questions, please ask them.
Freaking out?
You're going to have to quote that to back that up. Because I've never been freaking out about anything Tom has been posting. I've been town reading Tom since like page 3. He just continues to cement it at this point.
All I see is you attacking me for the same reason newcomb attempted to attack me in a summary fashion.
I've read through everything in this game, and you have not really expressed any opinion at all really.
I'm asking you to make a town/scum list for like the third time now if you have opinions that you know this should take like 5 minutes max.
You made mention that you thought that there was scum between Tom and I.
Can you explain your thoughts/reasoning?
Can you also post a town/scum list?
Can you start playing the game?
Thanks.
To address your previous post and this one: I voted you for a pretty specific string of posts where you were freaking out that Tom wasn't acting in some way you assumed he would be acting in. I thought that was scummy. I read like half of that really big post and it just seemed like summarizing the game to this point which is fine, but doesn't give you an automatic town pass or anything.
I'm playing the game. I've posted and explicitly said who I've been townreading and how that's shaping how I'm viewing the game. If you have any questions, please ask them.
I'm failing to follow you. You voted someone because you thought they posted something "fine", but not good enough? This just seems like a huge mental disconnect and more akin to trying to push a wagon or blend in than it is to actually deduce who is scum.
vote manasi
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Vezok, that summary post that DV made with the tables and stuff I feel like is something that he could have done as scum to make it seem like he was putting in a lot of work. I'm just saying it didn't convince me that he was town because he's evidently insisting that he should be town read or that I'm just playing like ***** because I have a scum read on him that he doesn't like the reasons for.
DV, I meant that there are probably wolves in the people that at the time I was just clearing for the sake of doing so. I haven't even legitimately really made a read on tom besides "I don't think he'd act like this as scum," which is an incredibly flimsy reason to town reason but it's what I got.
I'm not making a list of you if you're also incapable of scrolling to the last page and finding where I wrote out my thoughts. Saying I've not shown an opinion is laughable and wrong. Stop being a jerk because I'm not spoonfeeding you my thoughts.
Vezok, that summary post that DV made with the tables and stuff I feel like is something that he could have done as scum to make it seem like he was putting in a lot of work. I'm just saying it didn't convince me that he was town because he's evidently insisting that he should be town read or that I'm just playing like ***** because I have a scum read on him that he doesn't like the reasons for.
DV, I meant that there are probably wolves in the people that at the time I was just clearing for the sake of doing so. I haven't even legitimately really made a read on tom besides "I don't think he'd act like this as scum," which is an incredibly flimsy reason to town reason but it's what I got.
I'm not making a list of you if you're also incapable of scrolling to the last page and finding where I wrote out my thoughts. Saying I've not shown an opinion is laughable and wrong. Stop being a jerk because I'm not spoonfeeding you my thoughts.
Okay so I think my most comfortable town read RN is Newcomb. Little meta suggestions from team seems to point to him just being town. Kanji town, don't want to touch it any more than that.
Reading DV again, I think that his post getting frustrated at tom's playing (comparing everything to Nacho) could actually be a little scummy. It seems so ******* hard to wolf in this setting where there are hours and hours between posts and people have a lot of time to think about things, so I feel like in a game where not much has happened to latch onto, DV has latched onto stuff in a scummy way.
Conversely, as I've said before, I think Shinichi's reactions to tom and his play make them seem more towny. I don't know much about tom's alignment because his typical play is to pocket me early and then shade scum a little for a few days, so I'm hesitant to lock in a town read there given his nonchalance through the thread.
You mean this one right?
I'm asking you to you know talk about more than like 3 players.
Please stop acting like you have any high ground. You've effectively lurked all game. I'm asking you to make a list ranking it isn't hard.
I am both sick and 5 pages in.
I am going to maybe read more tonight or on my break at work tomorrow, I find mafia games are hard to initially get into and I need to get the ball rolling which I am having trouble doing while sick.
I think early on Nacho is coming off as both subtly defensive and kinda just awkward.
I am going to quote the posts that make me feel this way once I catch up but I'd rather fully read the game before I spend time making cases.
Post #56 in particular is one I really didn't like coming from him.
I kinda think that Tom and Shinichi are town but thats more of a gut read then anything else :/
Reading the general thread dynamic I feel like there is a scum just coasting but I need to fully read the game, vote counts and figure out who that actually is rather then just rushing to vote someone with few posts.
Have I ever been known for a flurry of posts? I guess I can try though, let's try something fun. I'm just gonna post ***** as I think of it, invoke my inner Kanji if you will.
I will never be able to manage that level of posting but should get me to say more than I have.
Shinichi on the super tunnel is probably townie in a weird way. Scum would be looking around more for easier targets or for blending in, where by tunneling like that Shin stands out more.
Manasi looks like they came up with a BS read on DV and is having issues backing it up when being called on it. Reading through the posts they come to the conclusion that DV is scummy without actually saying why he is.
Current three scum candidates are Manasi Vezok and cantrip, which doesn't really check out but works for now.
@shinichi thoughts on the rest of the game please not just Kanji/Tom you're death tunneled onto them.
I mean I don't mind being that **** that catches everyone's attention on day 1. It's a compliment, really. Keep it coming Shinichi
@Manasi stop trying so hard, jesus. This game is easy. Hop on my magic carpet bae and vote vezokperaka. Then if that flips wolf you were right about DV. If that flips town then like I said early on you straight outed wolf. Let's go.
Reading the general thread dynamic I feel like there is a scum just coasting but I need to fully read the game, vote counts and figure out who that actually is rather then just rushing to vote someone with few posts.
This fool is understandably living in the past but I got mad PROPS and a townread to hand out cause 1) disengagement when sick likely means VT 2) sheeping my nacho vote early game FTW. Let's get it homie.
I think of anyone I'm giving a town read for incorrectly I'm probably wrong on Tom. Think Vezok is playing villagery enough but I have a small sample size of style and stuff.
Probably just wolves in tom/DV/something something but I'm too much of a puss to push that.
Newcomb
Immediate thoughts on Newcomb, the fact that he prodded me for me reads on other things strikes me as town. He’s scum reading me for some of this if I understand him right. He could continue that as a case on me, but he’s prodding me to do other things. To answer this I feel like I’m spinning my wheels waiting for some of the lower posters to make some content.
I think he could be scum, but some of what he has done as town such as the part where he’s asking me to talk more about other things, and seems like he’s sort of backing off seems like an advanced play. Then again, maybe the fact that nobody else is really going after me means he’s trying to move on without looking scummy.
The only thing that is bugging me about newcomb is that he has been mumish on a few players. He feels like he is decently tunnled onto me. I know I’m one of those players that makes this happen in threads, but he just doesn’t seem that focused on other things?
@tom
So I'm not going to bother pointing out what the surface-level badness of this, it's pretty obvious.
Since you're townreading this guy, though, untangle it for me. Walk me through the mindset you think is on display here w/r/t his read on me. Show me the steps that led to this rat's nest.
So
Shin still can't produce anything about me overreacting, or even reacting.
He backed off me when called out.
Backed off the back off when called on it
Seemed to know I'm town commenting on when I said haven't posted anything I wouldnt post as scum (this one is dumb but it still registered)
Basically is doing everything he can to push me, and I literally dare anyone to find anything valid in those pushes
I'll bite, sure. It's a sufficiently interesting albeit narrow point.
I am both sick and 5 pages in.
I am going to maybe read more tonight or on my break at work tomorrow, I find mafia games are hard to initially get into and I need to get the ball rolling which I am having trouble doing while sick.
I think early on Nacho is coming off as both subtly defensive and kinda just awkward.
I am going to quote the posts that make me feel this way once I catch up but I'd rather fully read the game before I spend time making cases.
Post #56 in particular is one I really didn't like coming from him.
I kinda think that Tom and Shinichi are town but thats more of a gut read then anything else :/
I have a silly read on this post gonna talk to my team about it someone remind me after he's caught up
I am both sick and 5 pages in.
I am going to maybe read more tonight or on my break at work tomorrow, I find mafia games are hard to initially get into and I need to get the ball rolling which I am having trouble doing while sick.
I think early on Nacho is coming off as both subtly defensive and kinda just awkward.
I am going to quote the posts that make me feel this way once I catch up but I'd rather fully read the game before I spend time making cases.
Post #56 in particular is one I really didn't like coming from him.
I kinda think that Tom and Shinichi are town but thats more of a gut read then anything else :/
I have a silly read on this post gonna talk to my team about it someone remind me after he's caught up
Newcomb
Immediate thoughts on Newcomb, the fact that he prodded me for me reads on other things strikes me as town. He’s scum reading me for some of this if I understand him right. He could continue that as a case on me, but he’s prodding me to do other things. To answer this I feel like I’m spinning my wheels waiting for some of the lower posters to make some content.
I think he could be scum, but some of what he has done as town such as the part where he’s asking me to talk more about other things, and seems like he’s sort of backing off seems like an advanced play. Then again, maybe the fact that nobody else is really going after me means he’s trying to move on without looking scummy.
The only thing that is bugging me about newcomb is that he has been mumish on a few players. He feels like he is decently tunnled onto me. I know I’m one of those players that makes this happen in threads, but he just doesn’t seem that focused on other things?
@tom
So I'm not going to bother pointing out what the surface-level badness of this, it's pretty obvious.
Since you're townreading this guy, though, untangle it for me. Walk me through the mindset you think is on display here w/r/t his read on me. Show me the steps that led to this rat's nest.
i think you are gonna have to point it out unless you mean a moderately poor understanding of Newcomb meta in that "he's prodding me" bit. That's very much just your style but it probably is townie for some rando
Otherwise it seems fairly logical and I follow it and maybe even agree a little on his focus issue.
Middle part is a little awk, where he just said what he liked and then he's thinking about how it could be a scum plan. But that kind of negative outlook is pretty common in town dv
While you two are here, eod is in a few days, right? (Wednesday or something?)
How do eods work here?
well, this game has as many short phase folk as mtgsers
So Idk
But in general it's hard to get enough people in one place d1, some of them end in a no lynch, with half the game unaware of or unavailable for deadline.
Sometimes we maj a week early
It's rarely an exciting two wagon crazy fest
If you want to start a cfd budget ~72 hours to make it happen
BTW, only reason I said both you + Tom were defending newcomb was cause the thread was quiet til I voted newcomb then I got a bunch of reasons against it LOL.
I find Newcomb incredibly hard to read. I thought I'll leave him to night actions or PoE, but you started claiming that you think he is scum and I wanted to see your reasons to decide for myself. Instead you accuse me of defending him which only happened in your made up world.
Expand on this.
Because, as snarky and *****posty as I am, I'm also a pretty straightforward player. I don't really do levels; I say what I think and don't really dress it up and/or act coy about things. I've posted plenty of thoughts this game. What are you finding hard to read, exactly?
As for the zero effort to solve the game that reflects doubly on you and newcomb. AFAIK all you did is call me town (highly obvious) and newcomb has literally contributed F all but post chaotic posts and MTG cards.
718/724
Do all you guys just excel at not reading the thread? Is this a skill that you have mastered somewhere? Is it effective for winning games as town?
718/724
Do all you guys just excel at not reading the thread? Is this a skill that you have mastered somewhere? Is it effective for winning games as town?
me?
724 was mostly me saying I followed your logic did I get it wrong?
718/724
Do all you guys just excel at not reading the thread? Is this a skill that you have mastered somewhere? Is it effective for winning games as town?
I form read instantaneously, like, tho I read thru the whole thread and post my thoughts it's like....
It's way more fun to react to people in real time because the reflects a lot more of their character.
So answer me this. Why is avatar ******* Full Metal Alchemist. Everyone knows that show sucks.
718/724
Do all you guys just excel at not reading the thread? Is this a skill that you have mastered somewhere? Is it effective for winning games as town?
me?
724 was mostly me saying I followed your logic did I get it wrong?
Yeah.
I want him to expand like you asked him to.
@Kanji You're scum now for saying FMA sucks. Get out of here with that.
While we are rather relaxed about multiposting rules here in mafia subforum, aggressive multiposting (more than 3 posts in a row within short span of time and posts not really contributing to the game) will lead to warnings.
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I find Newcomb incredibly hard to read. I thought I'll leave him to night actions or PoE, but you started claiming that you think he is scum and I wanted to see your reasons to decide for myself. Instead you accuse me of defending him which only happened in your made up world.
Expand on this.
Because, as snarky and *****posty as I am, I'm also a pretty straightforward player. I don't really do levels; I say what I think and don't really dress it up and/or act coy about things. I've posted plenty of thoughts this game. What are you finding hard to read, exactly?
Well that's the problem. You are pretty straightforward. I think you can easily make the same kind of posts both as town or scum. Just what I read from you this game made me realise that I'll have a hard time reading you. I thought Kanji had actual reasons for his scumread on you and wanted to see them to think for myself. Maybe it was something I missed from your posts.
Unfortunately Kanji just wants to mess around and shoot random votes at everyone he sees posting.
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@tom I dont think any of us should have any reason to believe scum are mostly lurkers, if anything i believe its 2 of those 5-7 active people. Rather wait till the next day phase to decie what to do with people who aren't willing to put more focus into the game.
@vezo Not sure why you care about the reasons that newcomb is being scum read if you don't feel like trying to read someoe you consider hard to read.
Who's defending Newcomb? Can you give some well thought out reasons why Newcomb is scum?
I just realised I have only 14 posts. Imma start spamming the thread to get that number up.
Haha yeah, the fact that you reacted negatively to me and newcomb also seems to LOLpost threatening to just lynch someone randomly at EOD.
Zero effort to solve the game.
Why are you defending them?
What does this post even mean?
Haha you might've missed it but I responded to both you and tom right after you guys both posted, trying to see who would take the bait. And you ended up being the one taking it so GG.
Thanks for falling for the trap. Better luck next time.
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I dont even see the trap thought, not sure what you caught. Literally he just asked what your post meant so not sure how that equals to caught scum.
As for the zero effort to solve the game that reflects doubly on you and newcomb. AFAIK all you did is call me town (highly obvious) and newcomb has literally contributed F all but post chaotic posts and MTG cards.
Get owned kids.
You as well tom
You havent realy put much effort to solve either, your just slapping all these mafia terms like traps and other *****. Only reason i town read you is because of how you've been handling ur votes since i cant see scum rethinking their votes as much as you do hench the town read.
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Its pretty telling how they reacted, even now tom is trying really har to not read newcomb as scum its like hes trying to avoid any connections.
I'm playing the game. I've posted and explicitly said who I've been townreading and how that's shaping how I'm viewing the game. If you have any questions, please ask them.
Freaking out?
You're going to have to quote that to back that up. Because I've never been freaking out about anything Tom has been posting. I've been town reading Tom since like page 3. He just continues to cement it at this point.
All I see is you attacking me for the same reason newcomb attempted to attack me in a summary fashion.
I've read through everything in this game, and you have not really expressed any opinion at all really.
I'm asking you to make a town/scum list for like the third time now if you have opinions that you know this should take like 5 minutes max.
I'm failing to follow you. You voted someone because you thought they posted something "fine", but not good enough? This just seems like a huge mental disconnect and more akin to trying to push a wagon or blend in than it is to actually deduce who is scum.
vote manasi
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I'm asking you to back up this statement/point to what you saw that made you say this.
I'm not going to repeat my questions.
Either read the thread and answer them or don't. If you are town and want to lose the game continue with this kind of bull***** non attempt play.
DV, I meant that there are probably wolves in the people that at the time I was just clearing for the sake of doing so. I haven't even legitimately really made a read on tom besides "I don't think he'd act like this as scum," which is an incredibly flimsy reason to town reason but it's what I got.
I'm not making a list of you if you're also incapable of scrolling to the last page and finding where I wrote out my thoughts. Saying I've not shown an opinion is laughable and wrong. Stop being a jerk because I'm not spoonfeeding you my thoughts.
You mean this one right?
I'm asking you to you know talk about more than like 3 players.
Please stop acting like you have any high ground. You've effectively lurked all game. I'm asking you to make a list ranking it isn't hard.
I am going to maybe read more tonight or on my break at work tomorrow, I find mafia games are hard to initially get into and I need to get the ball rolling which I am having trouble doing while sick.
I think early on Nacho is coming off as both subtly defensive and kinda just awkward.
I am going to quote the posts that make me feel this way once I catch up but I'd rather fully read the game before I spend time making cases.
Post #56 in particular is one I really didn't like coming from him.
I kinda think that Tom and Shinichi are town but thats more of a gut read then anything else :/
Reading the general thread dynamic I feel like there is a scum just coasting but I need to fully read the game, vote counts and figure out who that actually is rather then just rushing to vote someone with few posts.
I will never be able to manage that level of posting but should get me to say more than I have.
Shinichi on the super tunnel is probably townie in a weird way. Scum would be looking around more for easier targets or for blending in, where by tunneling like that Shin stands out more.
Manasi looks like they came up with a BS read on DV and is having issues backing it up when being called on it. Reading through the posts they come to the conclusion that DV is scummy without actually saying why he is.
Current three scum candidates are Manasi Vezok and cantrip, which doesn't really check out but works for now.
Doing weird ***** like this and assessing the reactions of the players is how I form my reads.
Congrats you're still town. LOL
I mean I don't mind being that **** that catches everyone's attention on day 1. It's a compliment, really. Keep it coming Shinichi
@Manasi stop trying so hard, jesus. This game is easy. Hop on my magic carpet bae and vote vezokperaka. Then if that flips wolf you were right about DV. If that flips town then like I said early on you straight outed wolf. Let's go.
This fool is understandably living in the past but I got mad PROPS and a townread to hand out cause 1) disengagement when sick likely means VT 2) sheeping my nacho vote early game FTW. Let's get it homie.
Yeah but that was so obviously bait lul
What do you think is villagery about Vezok?
@tom
So I'm not going to bother pointing out what the surface-level badness of this, it's pretty obvious.
Since you're townreading this guy, though, untangle it for me. Walk me through the mindset you think is on display here w/r/t his read on me. Show me the steps that led to this rat's nest.
I'll bite, sure. It's a sufficiently interesting albeit narrow point.
@Shinchi:
Show us the e-mails, Hillary.
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Otherwise it seems fairly logical and I follow it and maybe even agree a little on his focus issue.
Middle part is a little awk, where he just said what he liked and then he's thinking about how it could be a scum plan. But that kind of negative outlook is pretty common in town dv
How do eods work here?
So Idk
But in general it's hard to get enough people in one place d1, some of them end in a no lynch, with half the game unaware of or unavailable for deadline.
Sometimes we maj a week early
It's rarely an exciting two wagon crazy fest
If you want to start a cfd budget ~72 hours to make it happen
<citation needed>
Idk, don't play here enough to have a sense of it.
Every game I've played I think has maj'd before deadline, but CFDs aren't super a thing unless site meta has changed somewhat.
Expand on this.
Because, as snarky and *****posty as I am, I'm also a pretty straightforward player. I don't really do levels; I say what I think and don't really dress it up and/or act coy about things. I've posted plenty of thoughts this game. What are you finding hard to read, exactly?
Newcomb what are your opinions at the thread at large?
Can you post a read list?
Expand on what?
I might end up doing a broad-strokes where-I'm-at thing; probably won't end up doing a reads list.
That depends; who's on your team?
Vote: newcomb
What's up?
Do all you guys just excel at not reading the thread? Is this a skill that you have mastered somewhere? Is it effective for winning games as town?
724 was mostly me saying I followed your logic did I get it wrong?
I form read instantaneously, like, tho I read thru the whole thread and post my thoughts it's like....
It's way more fun to react to people in real time because the reflects a lot more of their character.
So answer me this. Why is avatar ******* Full Metal Alchemist. Everyone knows that show sucks.
Do you read me town still?
One today, the other tomorrow.
Let's go kids
Vote: vezopiraka
Vote: vezokpiraka
Now if you or vezo either flip wolf then Manasi is for sure a team mate. Super easy game. I'm disappointed in how easy this was tbh.
Yeah.
I want him to expand like you asked him to.
@Kanji You're scum now for saying FMA sucks. Get out of here with that.
Well that's the problem. You are pretty straightforward. I think you can easily make the same kind of posts both as town or scum. Just what I read from you this game made me realise that I'll have a hard time reading you. I thought Kanji had actual reasons for his scumread on you and wanted to see them to think for myself. Maybe it was something I missed from your posts.
Unfortunately Kanji just wants to mess around and shoot random votes at everyone he sees posting.
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@tom I dont think any of us should have any reason to believe scum are mostly lurkers, if anything i believe its 2 of those 5-7 active people. Rather wait till the next day phase to decie what to do with people who aren't willing to put more focus into the game.
@vezo Not sure why you care about the reasons that newcomb is being scum read if you don't feel like trying to read someoe you consider hard to read.
I dont even see the trap thought, not sure what you caught. Literally he just asked what your post meant so not sure how that equals to caught scum.
You havent realy put much effort to solve either, your just slapping all these mafia terms like traps and other *****. Only reason i town read you is because of how you've been handling ur votes since i cant see scum rethinking their votes as much as you do hench the town read.