Your call out of Rodemy for his tom townread and boldness in requesting more votes on him, but mostly you pulling up Highroller's post from another game as a pointer against him/his massclaim suggestion.
I wasn't the first to call out Rod and I pull up posts from other as both alignments. It's something I did heavily in my last scum game (which happens to have been my last game).
Noted. I believe you were, though (#51).
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I thought the point was he’s a main character and therefore cannot be non-town.
I guess that's possible. But the "I want to flavor claim today and mechanical claim tomorrow for reasons." just feels like a PR. But maybe I read too much into it.
I haven't noticed any intentional soft claims, just obvious telegraphing that he's a PR.
I am probably using the term incorrectly then. I tend to use it broadly for non full claims.
He also spoke of his role, which seems unneccesary to do as vanilla, if there is any doubt.
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I haven't noticed any intentional soft claims, just obvious telegraphing that he's a PR.
I am probably using the term incorrectly then. I tend to use it broadly for non full claims.
He also spoke of his role, which seems unneccesary to do as vanilla, if there is any doubt.
Ahhh yeah in local parlance claiming flavor without mechanics would be a partial claim not a soft. A soft claim would be something like "I have a role that targets at night." Or "My role will clear me."
Anyway I mostly just want to stop talking about claims today. Don't think it's getting us anywhere.
i think there's 0-1 wolves in tom, re, and grape. dont want to look in there, dont want to really talm there, but id appreciate their consistent thoughts.
i thought vaimes and tsjw or whatever his name had good entrances as well. sort of a level 1 read, but yk, i'm chilling on it.
/vote kamikaze
think his entrance was meh, think his content early on was meh, think his play is detached and is a good center piece for scumteams. realistically this just an easy wolf hit to set us up for further days if it hits right though i'm thinking of hitting somebody wolfy af but also who's got a lot of associatives.
also fuwa's entrance pinged me a little, and i'm gonna read into em more. i only read first two pages, might read more, but i'm kind of struggling in life rn but dont want to replace out of my first game here.
@Highroller I'm in camp all or nothing. We shouldn't partial claim if we're going to do it. I'm also more inclined to wait till tomorrow. Claiming flavor accomplishes nothing on it's own. I've been in games like this where it's flavorwise faction vs faction, the scum faction always has safe claims.
So either we break the game completely or we lose nothing. I fail to see the problem.
open setup = roles that are in play are revealed at the start
closed setup = roles that are in play are only revealed through the course of the game as people die.
(the only exception to this is games specified as flipless. i.e., roles don't show upon death. this is not one of those games)
@Rod
What do you like about Tom's game so far? If I recall it's pretty much a meme that you are suspicious of him in every game. What's different this game?
@All
I think Gozer the Gozerian sounds the tamest. Like he's just a guy from Gozeropolis, carrying out their day.
Hey Highroller, I don’t think you answered my questions.
I only saw the one. What was the other/were the others?
Re: closed setups, what elijah said. Information about the setup is secret and only revealed as people die, rather than all the roles/mechanics being listed in the first post by the mod.
The other one was kind of rhetorical, but I was asking how you thought any sort of claim, flavor or otherwise, would help town and/or hurt the mafia in this specific game. Not in theory.
seems they have a very likeable personality. and players with that background who are wolves tend to allow this to carry their content. seemed like fuwa struggled to genuinely get into the game but had no problem greeting her friends in a carefree manner because she's comfortable with her place here but not with her role. like, an awkward tone with the parts of the post that were actually relevant to the game if that makes any sense
@Highroller I'm in camp all or nothing. We shouldn't partial claim if we're going to do it. I'm also more inclined to wait till tomorrow. Claiming flavor accomplishes nothing on it's own. I've been in games like this where it's flavorwise faction vs faction, the scum faction always has safe claims.
So either we break the game completely or we lose nothing. I fail to see the problem.
I'm confused. I'm saying we gain nothing always from flavor claiming and nothing a decent % of the time from full claiming (which you don't even want to do now). I have seen one mod who made a game that could be broken by flavor claims.
@Elijah I think like that read on Fuwa. Can you point to the posts that made you feel that way. Also interested in how you landed on the grouping of me/tom/RE.
@Rod
What do you like about Tom's game so far? If I recall it's pretty much a meme that you are suspicious of him in every game. What's different this game?
to be fair, he's townread me before he just gets paranoid evventually
That said his townread on me is pretty weak sauce
seems they have a very likeable personality. and players with that background who are wolves tend to allow this to carry their content. seemed like fuwa struggled to genuinely get into the game but had no problem greeting her friends in a carefree manner because she's comfortable with her place here but not with her role. like, an awkward tone with the parts of the post that were actually relevant to the game if that makes any sense
I was super suspicious if Tom like twice that I can remember. right now, after a few of his posts, he isn’t contributing much to the game and it’s starting to irk me.
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Tom. You asked me to comment on Vaimes specifically. Why?
because I wanted to know what you thought of him
I know you're going to try to pull this every game, and I'm still going to keep on you every time.
Why me specifically, why about Vaimes specifically?
listen man. This game is gonna last months. I'm gonna ask questions because I feel like asking questions. There's not some specific plan or anything how could there be when I don't know the answer you're gonna give?
Maybe the answer will be interesting, maybe it won't be. But it's creating data points.
Like, yeah I'm hoping for an answer that gets me something concrete either now or when I know your and/or vaimes alignment but thats not super likely. I just keep asking the questions.
You do this every time. I asked what you thought of vaimes because i wondered what you thought of vaimes
@Rod
What do you like about Tom's game so far? If I recall it's pretty much a meme that you are suspicious of him in every game. What's different this game?
to be fair, he's townread me before he just gets paranoid evventually
That said his townread on me is pretty weak sauce
I was super suspicious if Tom like twice that I can remember. right now, after a few of his posts, he isn’t contributing much to the game and it’s starting to irk me.
unvote
Vote tom
Anyway talk to me more about the defense of Ruma and why you liked that in particular Rodemy. I have thoughts on it but they are apparently wildly different from yours. Tom defending a player who is a bit of a different play style to average is a thing that has happened before, I want your thought process on why it was townie here.
Tom. You asked me to comment on Vaimes specifically. Why?
because I wanted to know what you thought of him
I know you're going to try to pull this every game, and I'm still going to keep on you every time.
Why me specifically, why about Vaimes specifically?
listen man. This game is gonna last months. I'm gonna ask questions because I feel like asking questions. There's not some specific plan or anything how could there be when I don't know the answer you're gonna give?
Maybe the answer will be interesting, maybe it won't be. But it's creating data points.
Like, yeah I'm hoping for an answer that gets me something concrete either now or when I know your and/or vaimes alignment but thats not super likely. I just keep asking the questions.
You do this every time. I asked what you thought of vaimes because i wondered what you thought of vaimes
I was super suspicious if Tom like twice that I can remember. right now, after a few of his posts, he isn’t contributing much to the game and it’s starting to irk me.
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Vote tom
Who is contributing to the game then, in your opinion?
Thoughts on your train?
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seems they have a very likeable personality. and players with that background who are wolves tend to allow this to carry their content. seemed like fuwa struggled to genuinely get into the game but had no problem greeting her friends in a carefree manner because she's comfortable with her place here but not with her role. like, an awkward tone with the parts of the post that were actually relevant to the game if that makes any sense
What about that post makes you feel Tom's townish?
Two are fluff and one is answered not long after the post in question. Gives me the sense that it's filler and/or they're not reading the thread as closely as town would.
There isn't much content either aside from a sheep read (?) on High and a read on Rodemy. Curious what their thoughts on him are now?
What are your thoughts on Rodemy/High? Do we have a wolf in there or nah?
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Kami I feel like I've given you approximately that same answer every damn time. Were you just waiting for me to get annoyed by the question?
There's a big difference - to me, at least. "I'm gathering data" is straightforward; it acknowledges there isn't other info to be had. I've said this myself plenty of times. Just repeating "I did the thing to do the thing" is, to me, avoiding the question.
Kami I feel like I've given you approximately that same answer every damn time. Were you just waiting for me to get annoyed by the question?
There's a big difference - to me, at least. "I'm gathering data" is straightforward; it acknowledges there isn't other info to be had. I've said this myself plenty of times. Just repeating "I did the thing to do the thing" is, to me, avoiding the question.
"I did the thing to do the thing" is the actual answer though. The rest of that is just what I hope to make of it
It's also the same answer regardless of my alignment because id just be hoping to do the same except twisted for my own convenience as scum
But mostly, especially early on, I'm just doing stuff
I haven't noticed any intentional soft claims, just obvious telegraphing that he's a PR.
No comment on the Rod thing. He’s not someone I want to heavily engage with right now.
I guess that's possible. But the "I want to flavor claim today and mechanical claim tomorrow for reasons." just feels like a PR. But maybe I read too much into it.
Fair enough. I'll poke again later.
*crickets*
vote: rezombied
He also spoke of his role, which seems unneccesary to do as vanilla, if there is any doubt.
Pretty much any thoughts would be welcome
Ahhh yeah in local parlance claiming flavor without mechanics would be a partial claim not a soft. A soft claim would be something like "I have a role that targets at night." Or "My role will clear me."
Anyway I mostly just want to stop talking about claims today. Don't think it's getting us anywhere.
i think there's 0-1 wolves in tom, re, and grape. dont want to look in there, dont want to really talm there, but id appreciate their consistent thoughts.
i thought vaimes and tsjw or whatever his name had good entrances as well. sort of a level 1 read, but yk, i'm chilling on it.
/vote kamikaze
think his entrance was meh, think his content early on was meh, think his play is detached and is a good center piece for scumteams. realistically this just an easy wolf hit to set us up for further days if it hits right though i'm thinking of hitting somebody wolfy af but also who's got a lot of associatives.
also fuwa's entrance pinged me a little, and i'm gonna read into em more. i only read first two pages, might read more, but i'm kind of struggling in life rn but dont want to replace out of my first game here.
I'm not down with the lingo here, you'll have to define the difference between a closed and an open setup.
I only saw the one. What was the other/were the others?
So either we break the game completely or we lose nothing. I fail to see the problem.
closed setup = roles that are in play are only revealed through the course of the game as people die.
(the only exception to this is games specified as flipless. i.e., roles don't show upon death. this is not one of those games)
What do you like about Tom's game so far? If I recall it's pretty much a meme that you are suspicious of him in every game. What's different this game?
@All
I think Gozer the Gozerian sounds the tamest. Like he's just a guy from Gozeropolis, carrying out their day.
Vote Gozer the Gozerian
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tomsloger (2): Vaimes, Atogaholic
Atogaholic (1): KamikazeArchon
Rodemy (2): Grapefruit21, Highroller
Highroller (3): Rumanshi, Fuwa, Rodemy
RE1031 (1): Tubba Fett
KamikazeArchon (2): EtR, elijah
elijah (1): RE1031
rezombied (1): tomsloger
Not Voting (3): rezombied, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, vezokpiraka
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
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Traveler (2): Vaimes, Rodemy
Gozerian (3): vezokpiraka, Grapefruit21, Tubba Fett
Destructor (1): tomsloger
Not Voting (10): Atogaholic, elijah, EtR, Fuwa, Highroller, KamikazeArchon, rezombied, RE1031, Rumanshi, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry
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The other one was kind of rhetorical, but I was asking how you thought any sort of claim, flavor or otherwise, would help town and/or hurt the mafia in this specific game. Not in theory.
For you, fruity grape.
that's the vibe i got.
/vote gozer the gozerian
assuming you're talking about the other portion of my townreads, yeah im talking about re203p482848
I'm confused. I'm saying we gain nothing always from flavor claiming and nothing a decent % of the time from full claiming (which you don't even want to do now). I have seen one mod who made a game that could be broken by flavor claims.
@Elijah I think like that read on Fuwa. Can you point to the posts that made you feel that way. Also interested in how you landed on the grouping of me/tom/RE.
@Vaimes <3
That said his townread on me is pretty weak sauce
I'll go look at that at some point
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Why me specifically, why about Vaimes specifically?
Atog: Welcome to the game. Is your vote RVS or serious?
With no mechanical info on the Gozers, I'll go with the one that sounds cool.
vote Gozer the Gozerian
Then give me a reads list
Maybe the answer will be interesting, maybe it won't be. But it's creating data points.
Like, yeah I'm hoping for an answer that gets me something concrete either now or when I know your and/or vaimes alignment but thats not super likely. I just keep asking the questions.
You do this every time. I asked what you thought of vaimes because i wondered what you thought of vaimes
Ugggggghhhh
Anyway talk to me more about the defense of Ruma and why you liked that in particular Rodemy. I have thoughts on it but they are apparently wildly different from yours. Tom defending a player who is a bit of a different play style to average is a thing that has happened before, I want your thought process on why it was townie here.
Thoughts on your train?
There isn't much content either aside from a sheep read (?) on High and a read on Rodemy. Curious what their thoughts on him are now?
What are your thoughts on Rodemy/High? Do we have a wolf in there or nah?
@rezombied
what kind of player would you describe yourself as?
It's also the same answer regardless of my alignment because id just be hoping to do the same except twisted for my own convenience as scum
But mostly, especially early on, I'm just doing stuff