@HR yeah I think you're correct in reading into that aspect of the rules. The raised wights as scum theory is cool, but I'm guessing this will lean into the political backstabbing aspects for reasons.
I mean, if you knew who to trust and weren't afraid of constantly being backstabbed, this would not be Game of Thrones.
Now, the thing that I really don't know what to make of is this:
and flavor will be functionally random between the factions.
And that's bugging the hell out of me.
I'm assuming that means there will be good/baddies inside factions without regard for their in story morality. Cersei isn't automatically a goody (for being an awesome mother/queen) and Jon Snow can be a good guy despite being an oathbreaker.
Hi it’s been awhile since I’ve been in a game with 99% people that I don’t know, so this should be interesting.
Also I’m ******* baked right now so I’ll spare you me trying to read until I can actually try lmao.
Hi Vaimes
@Wisp You feel like a caricature of a MU player right now. I don't know if it means anything for your alignment.
@DV you should trust all my hot takes.
Building off your theory gaming: as fun as the smaller factions are I'm guessing we'll be mostly in the major houses. Stark, Lannister, Targ, Tyrell. As for 1 man factions I can think of quite a few that would make sense Littlefinger (as you mentioned), Varys, Bronn, Dany (sort of), and Tormund. I also think it's not worth speculating about in public.
But yeah, we're supposed to believe in your ability to read people's entrances?
U dont have to believe anything, you control your own brain, and your own thoughts, without the need to shade me
C'mon man, there is no such thing as The Sherlock Scan, everyone gets bamboozled, it's fine. You're not a prophet. You don't have to be. It's a game. Sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong. Nothing wrong with being wrong. No one here can claim that they never have been.
what are you even arguing here? what am I wrong on?
And your over-defensiveness is in stark (not a pun) contrast with your behavior in Death in the Family mafia. I openly invite people read Day 1 of that game. Not necessarily the whole day, it's over two-dozen pages long, but read at least the preliminary pages because that's when the LastWhisper bandwagon happened. LastWhisper was an instantaneous bandwagon target, and took things in stride. He's taking thing WAY more personally here, far more defensive than he did in the other game. It's totally out of character.
im taking more offense to it, because you are on the verge of pissing me off, you want me to go show you town games, where my town has been exactly this?
get out of this tunnel, you can make an amazing case and be wrong, but its ok, its ok to be wrong, so dont fret, one day you'll learn how to play the game based on things that aren't meta, or using other games to have any semblance of skill
I'm assuming that means there will be good/baddies inside factions without regard for their in story morality. Cersei isn't automatically a goody (for being an awesome mother/queen) and Jon Snow can be a good guy despite being an oathbreaker.
On that note I think that Ramsay Bolton guy might be alright he's just trying to bring order to the North. If it wasn't for those stark kids messing things up it would have been stable up there.
I'm assuming that means there will be good/baddies inside factions without regard for their in story morality. Cersei isn't automatically a goody (for being an awesome mother/queen) and Jon Snow can be a good guy despite being an oathbreaker.
On that note I think that Ramsay Bolton guy might be alright he's just trying to bring order to the North. If it wasn't for those stark kids messing things up it would have been stable up there.
the stark kids messing ***** up? ARYA IS BEST GIRL, TAKE THAT BACK
@Wisp I know, but I'm taking particular joy in you telling HR to stop using meta while directing him to different meta. It's almost like it's not the use of meta you object to but his specific application that's natural to him because it's his experience of you.
I'm assuming that means there will be good/baddies inside factions without regard for their in story morality. Cersei isn't automatically a goody (for being an awesome mother/queen) and Jon Snow can be a good guy despite being an oathbreaker.
On that note I think that Ramsay Bolton guy might be alright he's just trying to bring order to the North. If it wasn't for those stark kids messing things up it would have been stable up there.
#VoteForStannis
We can all agree on the true villain of this story though. Bran Stark.
Grape
well you gotta fight fire with fire as they say, he wants to think he can meta read me, so I will produce a rebuttal in the form of meta that contradicts his premature and poor read on me
LastWhisper, you came in trying to claim that you have some sort of super accuracy, as you saw Rodemy as mafia when no one else did on Day 1 in his initial posts.
I countered saying that I doubted this alleged superhuman mafia ability, because your record doesn’t match your rhetoric. It’s true that you did vote Rodemy. It’s also true that you cast suspicion on no less than 10 others based on their initial posts, and you even set aside your case on Rodemy to go after Grapefruit21, who was town. This is not the accuracy you claim to have, and any objective person would question any claim that Death in the Family mafia is evidence of such.
So now you’re taking umbrage, and making personal attacks on me, saying I suck at mafia. Except:
1. That’s totally irrelevant, because even if I were the worst mafia player that is humanly possible to be, it still doesn't give you superaccuracy.
2. That’s totally uncalled for. I've never made a personal attack against you at any point this game.
3. It actually makes you look like mafia, because you’re being super overdefensive against me, when in Death in the Family mafia, in which you were town, you had a whole bandwagon against you, and you never resorted to personal attacks, nor got particularly defensive about it.
Again, that’s an example of a game in which you were town and had an entire bandwagon against you. In that game you were measured, calm, took things in stride.
Here you have one person challenging your credibility, and you’re getting super bent out of shape about it? That is a significant difference in reaction.
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Limited experience with Wisp but reads as town here. Very idgaf and goofy here I like it.
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At least he can stay in games without being escorted out.
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well I take offense to people doubting my ability to play mafia
As I said before:
I'm casting doubt as to your alleged ability to read peoples' entrances.
Don't take it personally, if anyone else had made the same claim, I would cast the same doubt. Grand Admiral Thrawn-level reading ability just doesn't exist. It's not a thing.
well I take offense to people doubting my ability to play mafia
As I said before:
I'm casting doubt as to your alleged ability to read peoples' entrances.
Don't take it personally, if anyone else had made the same claim, I would cast the same doubt. Grand Admiral Thrawn-level reading ability just doesn't exist. It's not a thing.
what are you even mad about? I don't get it? because I throw out reads with a lack of reasoning? or that I have confidence in my reads with lack thereof?
@Chris
I was escorted out once... it was a dark time
how are you going to argue that by meta I am a wolf, when basic mafia theory points to the opposite? I almost want to take your tunnel on me as some boast to my skill
Anyway I have no idea why scum rides that read like it is their last breath but you may want to start being a bit more informative now.
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I'm not mad at anything. Hence the calm, neutral tone of my posts.
I don't get it? because I throw out reads with a lack of reasoning? or that I have confidence in my reads with lack thereof?
If you're asking why I'm voting for you, it's because of a significant difference of reaction between you being voted on in the last game versus you being voted on in this one.
If you're asking what I initially was criticizing you about, it was the idea that you could, from a player's initial entrance, determine his alignment. Which you cannot, nor can anyone else, because that's not a thing.
If you're asking why I'm voting for you, it's because of a significant difference of reaction between you being voted on in the last game versus you being voted on in this one.
so meta?
If you're asking what I initially was criticizing you about, it was the idea that you could, from a player's initial entrance, determine his alignment. Which you cannot, nor can anyone else, because that's not a thing.
This is an unproductive discussion. HR has real reasons based on meta to scum read Wisp. I disagree with him and think Wisp is basically at the rand point. Wisp in asserting those reasons are wrong is sucking literally all the air out of the thread and away from real content like the fact that Rhand and Vaimes are town. To my latest reread Wisp isn't even making an alignment argument about HR.
Wisp ignoring HR what do you make of Shin, Rhand, and DV. And can you answer my question about RE from earlier?
@HR Wisp being defensive doesn't mean he's scum. His first game on this site turned into a bit of a mess due to people (namely me) misreading defensiveness as scumminess. I see the same things you are seeing, but I don't think your conclusion is valid thanks to my experiences with Wisp beyond DitF. He's a very swingy player in a lot of ways.
@Cantrip, because Sir Chris is really good as town. I don't know if he is as good as scum. Pretty much, if he is king and is using his double vote to lynch mafia, the throne won't work out well for him.
@LW, in the world where I am scum, what are Sir Chris and DV?
@HR, the four people LW was talking about is referring to his early reads in Death in the Family, where he was mostly correct.
Grape
I did conclude that HR is probably town, with the percentage being >70%
as well as agreeing on Vaimes, not so much Rhand, as in I don't really have him as anything but null as it stands
Shin is on the lower end of the spectrum since I think his entrance was busy-body work, with no stances, it's kindly early though, so I will hold not hold as much merit to it since my brother is quite an enigma on optimal town play
I will not hold the same merit towards Grr though
my thoughts on DV are answered in my answer towards Grr's question
LnG
in a world where you are scum, I think they are both town, even outside of you, on an individual level I think they have a relatively high chance of being town, even higher than that of HR atm, so if you somehow flipped town, I would still think the same
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I am seeing a few people town leaning Rod. Wouldn't be so quick with that after last game. Wisp aside as he has magical powers.
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He cast aspersions on no less than 11 out of 15 people owhen there were 4 mafia. So in a game with 4 mafia, he accused - out of all of the people who could have been mafia - all but 4 of them of being suspicious. The fact that he got most of them right is not some great achievement. Were I to, right now, pick 4 people, at random, of not being mafia and were to accuse all the rest of being such, I would probably get most/all of the mafia.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Part of me wants to vote D_V because he’s on mescaline, the bigger part wants to give him a firm handshake and slap on the shoulder for being on mescaline.
@Whisper
The people you are scum reading, is there more to the reads beyond entrance posts?
It’s been said already, but slap fighting HR is probably fruitless. Ignore it and tell me why I should vote Lng.
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With that out of the way:
I hereby announce my claim to the Iron Throne. I shall be a fair and just ruler, and will weigh the advice of the citizens and lords in shaping the policy of the land.
Highroller strikes me as earnest; though truth be told, I have not yet seen an evil Highroller. Nevertheless I have no reason to doubt him.
Sir Chris has, in the past, proven his worth in valiant combat against disguised foes - though he was struck down in the end. Will this be a chance to redeem himself? Or is he now corrupt, and bearing his past honor as a facade? He would be a mighty ally if true, or a dangerous foe if false. I will say that this is not the Day to judge him, for only by the outcomes of his actions can we know him.
Re is giving me a bit of "deer in headlights" vibe.
I have no idea how you came to this conclusion. Could you elaborate? Maybe point out a post that gave you that impression and explain the analogy to me.
I'm awfully curious about this one. And I disagree with your Shinichi read. Relying solely on meta, this is his town game. I'm looking at the complexity of his commentary as well as the strong terminology used.
As for my own read and vote on Grape - two things pinged me. His awkward entrance (first post), and his read on Vaimes which struck me as far too confident. The confidence pinging me also because it shadows your read on Rodemy. As if testing boundaries, since confidence tends to be read as town.
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I will, as ModShadow is my witness, make every effort to keep this a positive game. If your plan is to be a jerkbutt, I recommend you change your plan or I WILL CHANGE IT FOR YOU. Don't make me meme.
Not much -- more in person than online. Nevertheless, I self nominate for the iron throne! I'm assuming I will not be especially good at this game given I don't know how all the rules work yet and I know you guys might want to go with Sir Chris or someone more experienced, but experienced people can do some real damage with power so I think I'm ultimately the safer option. Side note, why specifically do we want the iron throne? Like I assume it gives you power or something?--I'll reread the rules again
Experienced people can do some real damage to the opposite alignment. It makes sense to nominate someone believed to be town and can carry town. I don't agree with this logic, but like Kami advocating for himself, maybe this is tied to an alternate win condition.
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I disagree with your Shinichi read. Relying solely on meta, this is his town game. I'm looking at the complexity of his commentary as well as the strong terminology used.
Extremely tempted to townread Highroller for pulling up evidence from other games to case Wisp, quickly at that too. It reads to me as instinctual, which is +town.
Was close to giving D_V a townlean for similar reasoning (instinctual posts) - but they don't really contain content that isn't mechanical or flavor-related, so it'd possibly be premature. Sir Chris can get the townlean though for the same reason.
Wisp is getting ahead of himself, which is NAI unfortunately and makes his reads seem forced regardless of alignment. So if he's town, hopefully this will change when more evidence presents itself. I'm also interested in why he hasn't nominated himself for the Iron Throne? He seems the type.
Sleeping now, it seems quiet. Have an exam Thursday as well as some projects to get done - checking in will likely be minimal if I control myself.
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I disagree with your Shinichi read. Relying solely on meta, this is his town game. I'm looking at the complexity of his commentary as well as the strong terminology used.
tell me about this complexity
Complexity in that he's not just fluffing around to boost his post count, and his stances are clear-cut and not wavering because he's scum unwillingly to take a hard stance (again, meta). He's dived straight to the point (several of them, really) without needing to ease himself into the game comfortably with shallow posting.
Shin believes DV is neutral then got the rules wrong while also saying he thought DV was the best check and would flip town.
His other stances were "no don't townread vaimes" and... ?
Wisp's read on Rodemy is shallow, but so are the reads on Wisp.
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It's an okay read.
I see where you're coming from - scum!Rodemy would probably be sick of rolling scum so many times in a row that they would not enter the thread how they did here as scum. But it's also the correct way to approach the thread as scum, mimicking the excitement they'd feel as town hypothetically.
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There's only so much flavor and mechanics can do for someone not looking forward to another game as a wolf, imo. But that could be a factor. I say it's NAI currently, but if he keeps it up, maybe it'll become town-indicative.
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It was one of the first things he did. First thing he did if you don't count the "yeet" post.
How would his team have any control over what he did?
So you started out this game with a bunch of low impact posts with no apperent overarching aim. My immediate thought to this series of posts is you started out not really knowing what to do, which town (having organic thoughts and processes) would be less likely to do. That conversation with Vaimes (not shown here)is where you're starting to get into your element, but even then there's not a lot of scumhunting there.
The vote on Grape is spicy, and I wanna see what comes of that.
The analogy is just that you came into the game not sure how to procede. Almost hesitant. Like a deer in headlights.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
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I'm assuming that means there will be good/baddies inside factions without regard for their in story morality. Cersei isn't automatically a goody (for being an awesome mother/queen) and Jon Snow can be a good guy despite being an oathbreaker.
@Wisp You feel like a caricature of a MU player right now. I don't know if it means anything for your alignment.
@DV you should trust all my hot takes.
Building off your theory gaming: as fun as the smaller factions are I'm guessing we'll be mostly in the major houses. Stark, Lannister, Targ, Tyrell. As for 1 man factions I can think of quite a few that would make sense Littlefinger (as you mentioned), Varys, Bronn, Dany (sort of), and Tormund. I also think it's not worth speculating about in public.
U dont have to believe anything, you control your own brain, and your own thoughts, without the need to shade me
what are you even arguing here? what am I wrong on?
im taking more offense to it, because you are on the verge of pissing me off, you want me to go show you town games, where my town has been exactly this?
Polygamist Mafia
Immortals
Timmy Town
get out of this tunnel, you can make an amazing case and be wrong, but its ok, its ok to be wrong, so dont fret, one day you'll learn how to play the game based on things that aren't meta, or using other games to have any semblance of skill
to be fair, it doesnt, I will get mad as either alignment
On that note I think that Ramsay Bolton guy might be alright he's just trying to bring order to the North. If it wasn't for those stark kids messing things up it would have been stable up there.
I'm asking you nicely, to move away from my slot, before this turns into a full-fledged forest fire
@highroller
#VoteForStannis
We can all agree on the true villain of this story though. Bran Stark.
well you gotta fight fire with fire as they say, he wants to think he can meta read me, so I will produce a rebuttal in the form of meta that contradicts his premature and poor read on me
I countered saying that I doubted this alleged superhuman mafia ability, because your record doesn’t match your rhetoric. It’s true that you did vote Rodemy. It’s also true that you cast suspicion on no less than 10 others based on their initial posts, and you even set aside your case on Rodemy to go after Grapefruit21, who was town. This is not the accuracy you claim to have, and any objective person would question any claim that Death in the Family mafia is evidence of such.
So now you’re taking umbrage, and making personal attacks on me, saying I suck at mafia. Except:
1. That’s totally irrelevant, because even if I were the worst mafia player that is humanly possible to be, it still doesn't give you superaccuracy.
2. That’s totally uncalled for. I've never made a personal attack against you at any point this game.
3. It actually makes you look like mafia, because you’re being super overdefensive against me, when in Death in the Family mafia, in which you were town, you had a whole bandwagon against you, and you never resorted to personal attacks, nor got particularly defensive about it.
Again, that’s an example of a game in which you were town and had an entire bandwagon against you. In that game you were measured, calm, took things in stride.
Here you have one person challenging your credibility, and you’re getting super bent out of shape about it? That is a significant difference in reaction.
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Really?
Seems like a pretty common occurrence for you.
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Don't take it personally, if anyone else had made the same claim, I would cast the same doubt. Grand Admiral Thrawn-level reading ability just doesn't exist. It's not a thing.
@Chris
I was escorted out once... it was a dark time
Touché
Damn that was good.
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If you hit a deep wolf on day one then they weren't a deep wolf.
If you're asking why I'm voting for you, it's because of a significant difference of reaction between you being voted on in the last game versus you being voted on in this one.
If you're asking what I initially was criticizing you about, it was the idea that you could, from a player's initial entrance, determine his alignment. Which you cannot, nor can anyone else, because that's not a thing.
so meta?
bet?
The secret is never letting go of the read and being ok with ~rand accuracy and/or only remembering the successes
This is an unproductive discussion. HR has real reasons based on meta to scum read Wisp. I disagree with him and think Wisp is basically at the rand point. Wisp in asserting those reasons are wrong is sucking literally all the air out of the thread and away from real content like the fact that Rhand and Vaimes are town. To my latest reread Wisp isn't even making an alignment argument about HR.
Wisp ignoring HR what do you make of Shin, Rhand, and DV. And can you answer my question about RE from earlier?
BUT YASSSS
@LW, in the world where I am scum, what are Sir Chris and DV?
@HR, the four people LW was talking about is referring to his early reads in Death in the Family, where he was mostly correct.
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I did conclude that HR is probably town, with the percentage being >70%
as well as agreeing on Vaimes, not so much Rhand, as in I don't really have him as anything but null as it stands
Shin is on the lower end of the spectrum since I think his entrance was busy-body work, with no stances, it's kindly early though, so I will hold not hold as much merit to it since my brother is quite an enigma on optimal town play
I will not hold the same merit towards Grr though
my thoughts on DV are answered in my answer towards Grr's question
LnG
in a world where you are scum, I think they are both town, even outside of you, on an individual level I think they have a relatively high chance of being town, even higher than that of HR atm, so if you somehow flipped town, I would still think the same
Hi all.
So I'm townleaning Vaimes, Rod and DV.
This game's moving quick. I like it.
LnGrrR: Why are you supporting anyone this quickly for the Iron Throne? Do you have a read on Chris?
Killjoy begins glaring intently as Rhand
Last maybe town.
RE might be scum. Vote RE
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And/or just declare over two-thirds of the player base mafia.
LnGrrrR, you're going to want to give this a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhMGcp9xIhY
He cast aspersions on no less than 11 out of 15 people owhen there were 4 mafia. So in a game with 4 mafia, he accused - out of all of the people who could have been mafia - all but 4 of them of being suspicious. The fact that he got most of them right is not some great achievement. Were I to, right now, pick 4 people, at random, of not being mafia and were to accuse all the rest of being such, I would probably get most/all of the mafia.
Killjoy is mafia for not just hanging back and asking questions and instead going after people and actually putting himself in the spotlight.
I was going to say I'm only half-kidding, but I'm not actually sure to what extent I'm serious or not on that.
Anyway, what's the rationale on RE?
Re is giving me a bit of "deer in headlights" vibe.
Towniest
16. Lastwhisper
13. Rodemy
noobie town (sheeping Tom)
15. 1053nm
(thoughts I liked, more townie then below)
2. Vaimes
3. Sir Chris
18. D_V
12. Highroller
(less townie then the above)
8. Grapefruit21
17. Killjoy
The Cantrip Category
4. Cantripmancer
(completely null)
19. Tom
1. KamikazeArchon
6. Rhand
7. Hunger
9. Tubba Fett
11. Coballt
Scum leans:
5. Shinichi
10. LnGrrrR
14. RE1031
rainbow reads lead to discussion, where people get to call me stupid, or premature
@Whisper
The people you are scum reading, is there more to the reads beyond entrance posts?
It’s been said already, but slap fighting HR is probably fruitless. Ignore it and tell me why I should vote Lng.
With that out of the way:
I hereby announce my claim to the Iron Throne. I shall be a fair and just ruler, and will weigh the advice of the citizens and lords in shaping the policy of the land.
Highroller strikes me as earnest; though truth be told, I have not yet seen an evil Highroller. Nevertheless I have no reason to doubt him.
Sir Chris has, in the past, proven his worth in valiant combat against disguised foes - though he was struck down in the end. Will this be a chance to redeem himself? Or is he now corrupt, and bearing his past honor as a facade? He would be a mighty ally if true, or a dangerous foe if false. I will say that this is not the Day to judge him, for only by the outcomes of his actions can we know him.
As for my own read and vote on Grape - two things pinged me. His awkward entrance (first post), and his read on Vaimes which struck me as far too confident. The confidence pinging me also because it shadows your read on Rodemy. As if testing boundaries, since confidence tends to be read as town.
Was close to giving D_V a townlean for similar reasoning (instinctual posts) - but they don't really contain content that isn't mechanical or flavor-related, so it'd possibly be premature. Sir Chris can get the townlean though for the same reason.
Wisp is getting ahead of himself, which is NAI unfortunately and makes his reads seem forced regardless of alignment. So if he's town, hopefully this will change when more evidence presents itself. I'm also interested in why he hasn't nominated himself for the Iron Throne? He seems the type.
Sleeping now, it seems quiet. Have an exam Thursday as well as some projects to get done - checking in will likely be minimal if I control myself.
#116 also just reads to me as agenda-less.
His other stances were "no don't townread vaimes" and... ?
So you started out this game with a bunch of low impact posts with no apperent overarching aim. My immediate thought to this series of posts is you started out not really knowing what to do, which town (having organic thoughts and processes) would be less likely to do. That conversation with Vaimes (not shown here)is where you're starting to get into your element, but even then there's not a lot of scumhunting there.
The vote on Grape is spicy, and I wanna see what comes of that.
The analogy is just that you came into the game not sure how to procede. Almost hesitant. Like a deer in headlights.